Netjets or Flexjet | TheaterFire

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Smoothridetothe5@reddit

I have friends at both. Based on what they tell me, I'd say Netjets for better pay and Flexjet if you want better quality of life.

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PILOT9000@reddit

You do not have enough time for either, you need an ATP for both, and Flexjet doesn’t hire with less than 3,000 hours.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

Just edited the post a little. I am beyond happy where I am now, it’s just I don’t have a pay check guaranteed and I’m paying for online riddle classes, so I’m trying to plan. Thoughts on airshare?

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

Are they hiring much? Last I heard they were at like 1 or 2 pilots a month. I’m FTW based so it works out

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MightySnow@reddit

I think it’s still just a few per month unfortunately

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Rich-Cucumber-5821@reddit

You’re paying for riddle classes? Man I’ll teach you riddle and you can pay me.

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ammo359@reddit

What are these classes you’re paying for?

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

Just to get my degree online, I had almost half of it done because of high school credits and credits for my licenses. I graduate next October but I still need to pay around 20k with my scholarships between now and then.

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Niko_182@reddit

ATP not required for netjets. Multiple people in my class didn’t have it.

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azpilot06@reddit

ATP not required, but ATP -mins- required.

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MenRest@reddit

This and ATP/CTP with written complete is required

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MrAflac9916@reddit

You’re 19 and should seriously consider working towards a college degree if you want to go to a major carrier ever.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

I am right now, I’m getting my degree through riddle online in pilot operations. I graduate next October

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MrAflac9916@reddit

Nice work. Seriously impressive to be where you’re at at such a young age.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

Thank you, I’m extremely blessed to be where I’m at, definitely can’t take the credit for it.

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MrAflac9916@reddit

I mean yeah I’m sure you had some nice opportunities gifted to you, but you still had to pass all those checkrides, give yourself some credit man

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

As I see it, I’ve had too many close calls to take credit for being where I’m at. I know what I did, but the only way I did it was through the Lord.

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MenRest@reddit

You don’t meet the mins for either company. However sounds like you’ve got a huge step up on most people your age/time. Keep plugging away and hustling, by the time you meet mins you should be a shoe in as long as you’ve got your head on straight

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

My question was more about what would mins be considered both say they’d like 2-3000 hours unless corporate experience. Given I’ll have a couple hundred hours of jet and 135 time do you think they would consider me at 1500?

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MenRest@reddit

Yea we hire people at 1500 with their atp/CTP written completed

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

For we is that flexjet or netjet? I did my atp stuff this past summer to get it out of the way.

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MyPilotInterview@reddit

I get a lot of younger guys hired at NetJets. There is one 2nd round interview guy who seems to not be a huge fan of younger guys. But I don’t think there will be a problem getting you there.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

I’m hoping to get on my companies excel enough for a 61.55 type. If I had that and maybe 15-20 hours in the airframe, would that guarantee I’d be on that airframe or would it be more of a where I’m needed type of thing.

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Several-Village5814@reddit

They could care less what type you have. Expect the opposite of what you have. The excel is a dying fleet at NetJets and a sic bounce type is not worth much as is (with all due respect).

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Cessnateur@reddit

Doesn’t the incoming Ascend fleet share a common type with the Excel?

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glidec@reddit

it's an excel with a facelift

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MyPilotInterview@reddit

There is no guarantee in an airframe. You go where you’re told in class.

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Safe-Square-3577@reddit

All these people saying you need a boat load of flight hours don’t know what they are talking about. I got into NetJets last year with 1600 hours and 400 turbine. Most others in my class had less than 2000 hours, but the one thing we all had in common was turbine time. NetJets doesn’t give a damn about your total time, more so the quality of your flying time, your personality, and how you do in the sim eval. Over 15,000 applications last year and less than 300 people hired, so it’s very competitive. There have been plenty of people not hired at NetJets with a great resume and thousands of hours, but there have also been others with low time hired.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

I’ve heard people say CA recommendations are golden. Besides that any other tips to put me ahead?

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Several-Village5814@reddit

Everyone in my class had 2000 hours, maybe one or two old guys with 1700-1800 but the average was well above 1500.

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Safe-Square-3577@reddit

I believe you, however not impossible to get hired at 1500 hours like some are saying. I even met someone who was hired March of last year straight from CFI

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Several-Village5814@reddit

I agree it’s possible but it’s sort of the exception. Either they know someone in company, internal recommendation, career 2.0 person that they are willing to hire at lower TT, etc.

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Safe-Square-3577@reddit

I knew nobody, no recommendation, first career, no atp. However, the CFI guy I referred to did have a recommendation from a NetJets Captain. Someone with no turbine would definitely have to have some sort of leg up to get hired in today’s world, but OP I believe has at least a chance of getting an interview once total time is 1500-1600 with all that turbine time under the belt.

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Several-Village5814@reddit

Well you had an easier time than me. Congrats.

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Medical_Ad_573@reddit

Netjets is #1 by far for a reason. They have a nice pilots union also.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

I’ve heard. I think for the first little bit I want to try out the cc76 schedule if I were to go. I’ve heard flexjet pay is significantly better however. Any current pay/QOL updates compared to flexjet

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GMTMaster_II@reddit

How do you total a falcon by hitting it with a tug

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

You are asking the most real question possible. It was at 1:30a and he jack knifed it going 15+ on a turn and slammed on the brakes. Also, nice name, I just picked up my root beer in December!!

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GMTMaster_II@reddit

What the hell lol. Congrats!

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

I’ll dm you pictures the I got. He screwed up the right side and leading edge.

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Several-Village5814@reddit

First of all, Flexjet required 3000 TT and NetJets required 2000-2500 TT to be competitive with ATP written and 500+ jet time preferably.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

From what I’ve heard they want people to have their ratp at minimum as well. This is kind of an outlook since I obviously have to wait until I’m 21. Even if I had say 800 hours of jet by then with 1600 hours and 135 time, do you think I’d still be written off?

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Several-Village5814@reddit

Flexjet requires have told people as recently as last month that 3000 TT is a hard minimum (some exceptions for 2500 TT candidates with lots of similar experience). So obviously they don’t hire RATP. NetJets hasn’t hired RATP since the COVID hiring boom. 1500 is a bare minimum with turbine experience.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

Sounds good, thanks for the response

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Several-Village5814@reddit

I didn’t mean to come across rude, just want to set the expectations. I think if you have a lot of 135 jet time NetJets make take you well below 2500-3000 hours. Just apply once you have 1500 TT and the written. If you don’t make it the first time, reapply 6 months later. NJ is much better than the 135 you’re probably coming from, many of us were in your same shoes. Keep it up, don’t get an accident on record, and keep gaining experience wherever you end up later in life.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

All good I didn’t take it as such😆 I’m just trying to get as much feedback/advice as I can. Thoughts on airshare? I know a few guys have recommended it once I hit 900 hours.

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Flimsy-Ad-858@reddit

Not the guy you asked but FWIW I've had two friends work there and they both liked it.

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Several-Village5814@reddit

Idk never worked for them. Not as desirable as NJ / FJ.

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DeltaTule@reddit

Flexjet is a hard minimum of 3,000 hours total time

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Working_Football1586@reddit

Netjets randomly hires guys at ATP mins but not a lot like they used to. Ive heard the new classes maybe have one or two.

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AutoRot@reddit

19?! You’re in an excellent spot. You’ll befine

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LADR_Official@reddit

Congrats

Happy for you

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Swimming_Way_7372@reddit

Youre going to need a lot more hours than that to go to either NJ or FJ. Keep flying what you're flying and just build time and get old enough to qualify for rATP.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

I’m expecting to have around 2000 by the time I’m 21 but that’ll be 1300 of multi and hopefully 7-800 of jet. I’ve heard airshare hires younger low time guys, any idea of how that market is?

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Swimming_Way_7372@reddit

Right now you're almost in the best position you can be in. You're building multi turbine time and theres 1,000 people on this sub today that would trade thier 1st year cfi position with you. You aren't really attractive at your time to random outfits. You will get hired by your reputation and networking. Very few places will roll the dice on a new young pilot that isnt captain eligible soon unless they are a dog shit company. You're doing the right thing just keep grinding and stay off tinder whem you're in teterboro. That is all.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

Thanks for the advice man, just trying to find my way so far. On a layover in BTR right now and the voices keep getting louder😵‍💫😵‍💫

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Swimming_Way_7372@reddit

You're young and you're on a fantastic trajectory. Enjoy the flying you're doing and learn all you can. Strive to sharpen your skills and others will take notice. I work for a guy who was my student before he even had his private. 10 years later he was hiring and he called me right before I was going to give up flying. The connections we make when we are young will shape our path.

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

That is awesome, I’m very blessed to be where I’m at since I got this jet gig off one old guy I knew from renting his 172 and he needed a copilot. Thank you for the kind words and advice, it seems like that’s getting more and more uncommon in this industry…

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Rich-Link-8975@reddit

keep flying man. you literally have the best trajectory and you don’t even know it yet. You are young, keep going where you are.

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Raccoon_Ratatouille@reddit

Flexjet isn’t going to hire anyone who they suspect is going to bail for the airlines, and being young with few hours is going to be a major perceived risk

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RuthlessGravy@reddit

Same with NJ. If they get an inkling thay you're planning on leaving for any reason, they'll TBNT you.

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EM22_@reddit

You think you’re going to wither with 700 hours?

LMAOOOOOOO

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boobooaboo@reddit

Mods should filter out these posts about jobs no one has CJO’s for yet. P

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

I’m just looking for advice bro✌️😭

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General-File-5174@reddit

Flexjet is pretty strict on their mins from my understanding. Netjets does require the bare minimum 1500 or R-ATP qualified but from what I’ve heard, to be competitive 2000+ with a bunch of turbine

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Loud_Atmosphere_6661@reddit (OP)

Ok, I’ve talked to a few guys who’ve recommended airshare when I hit 900 hours, but it’s mainly an echo chamber of my cfi buddies, thought?

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General-File-5174@reddit

I’m not sure on the quality of the company, but you would be pretty solid candidate given your experience. I would try and talk to someone who’s actively there and see what the experience is like. I know people who work at netjets and both flexjet who love it for what they want in a career. It all depends if it’s your cup of tea

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yerbderb@reddit

Thanks dad

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rFlyingTower@reddit

This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:

Hey all, I’m a 19 year old citation copilot right now (500 and 525 mainly) with just over 700 hours and 250 hours of jet. I was supposed to go to school on the falcon 900 next month, but last night a line guy ran it into a tug while towing and totaled it… Since out of my control, I’m just trying to figure how to move forward. I really don’t think I’ll have another opportunity will pop up like it again so I’m now looking at big 135’s. I currently fly for a small 135 sometimes, but mostly 91 contract. Anyways, my question is if flexjet will take the chance on me or if it would be wiser to stick to netjets since I believe they historically hire younger guys. Thank for y’all’s help in advance!

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