Help!Can RTX 3080 run 4k

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FatalGamer1@reddit

Yeah it should be able to run ray tracing but maybe not to its full potential.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

It's used and for 400 bucks

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To be honest I don’t think it’s worth it. You’re better off spending a little more and getting the 5070 12GB. It’s better than the standard 3080 10GB with better modern architecture and features and it’s going to be a little more future proof with 12GB VRAM.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

Maybe in two years or so, the used market in my country is good. If I want to upgrade, it will be easy for me to sell a card like the 3080 and upgrade to another one. Because I currently have a limited budget for the PC.

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According_Spare7788@reddit

It'll run older titles ok. Newer titles though....not really. Dying Light the beast at 1440p, high settings (highest rasterized option) it does respectably with DLSS 4 Quality settings. Turn on Ray Tracing though, and it's 40 - 50 fps. 10GB will also become a pretty big issue. Path Tracing is out of the question.

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Hungry_Reception_724@reddit

Yes but its going to be rough. Its a solid 1440p card but unfortunately due to the VRAM limitations 4k will be choppy or will have to run at low-med quality settings.

If i were you id aim for high FPS 1440p gaming on a 27" display

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

I'm torn between it and the 6800XT card. The AMD will give good 4K performance, but only after sacrificing ray tracing. I don't know if 2K performance with ray tracing is better than 4K without it. In either case, the monitor will be 27".

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coolmouse7777@reddit

For 27 1440 is perfectly good, i run 3080 with 4k, but it 42' panel and with this size 4k is needed. But 27 1440 will have same PPI as 42' 4k.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

I hope 10g will be enough in 2k

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coolmouse7777@reddit

Be smart about your setting and all will be fine, for most games just choose hight, not ultrra. Look almost the same and ran lot faster.

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Hungry_Reception_724@reddit

I personally dont think either of thoes cards will be able to give you the performance you are going to want at 4k... 6800xt would probably do a better job just because of the 16gb of VRAM even though its slower overall.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

I think I'll abandon the idea of 4K; I think 2K with ray tracing would be better. Do you think 3080 will be capable of this performance Or should I tighten my budget to buy a card like the 4070?

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Hungry_Reception_724@reddit

3080 should be good however i dont think it has the ability to run DLSS 4.5 which is a gigantic upgrade over 3.0 and 4.0 which you will need to get decent framerates if ray tracing is turned on.

So thats a bit of an up to you. look at some benchmarks for the 3080 running ray tracing with the games you want to play and see if the performance and FPS is what you are after, then look at the 4070ti or Ti Super. the standard 4070 is about the same performance of the 3080 but with better DLSS and slightly more VRAM. But i dont think its worth the "upgrade"

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coolmouse7777@reddit

DLLS 4.0 preset K best for 20/30 series card in terms of performance and image quality , 4.5 L and M have huge performance penalty

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

Thank you for your time, I appreciate it.

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Hungry_Reception_724@reddit

No worries good luck man!

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Dorennor@reddit

It won't be good but it'll work.

And about DLSS crap: 1. Currently it requires 2 5090 to run this slop and Nvidia hopes that they will make it run on x1 5090. Are you fucking serious? 2. Even DLSS 4/4.5 works with huge penalties in terms of performance because 20-30 series don't have specific hardware for it to run without huge performance loss (FP8 instructions set to be spdcific). So nope, it won't be that reliable in terms of technology.

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BeltEffective9310@reddit

DLSS5 was a teaser trailer, and it's nowhere near done yet. Whenever Nvidia introduces new tech, it always gets extreme hate no matter what. This will most likely be no different.

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Dorennor@reddit

Yeah, tell it to FG, Reflex 2, Hairworks, PhysX, FleX, SLI, APEX, FaceWorks and ton of other bullshit. Keep fanboying, dude.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

Neural Rendering is the reason for needing two cards; otherwise, according to Gemini, the card will support upscale technologies for DLSS5. I'm still torn between it and the RX6800 XT, but I'm leaning towards the 3080 because of its NTC future technology and the difference in ray tracing.

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Affectionate-Memory4@reddit

LLMs are unreliable for research, and especially so for unreleased stuff. There's simply not enough info for even a knowledgeable human to give you a concrete answer yet, let alone an LLM.

Neural Rendering is a whole suite of things, ranging from neural texture compression and radiance caches to the slopification filter Nvidia showcased as DLSS5. We do not know what cards will support it, only have info about it running on the absolute top of the 50 series so far, and can't say what else if anything will support it. I have a feeling that this is the upcoming 60-series exclusive killer feature, being able to do that stuff on a single GPU, but there's nothing to back that up yet.

So far, Nvidia has allowed all RTX cards to use all upscaler models, but we're already seeing that DLSS4 and especially 4.5 have significantly higher costs than previous models, enough that the 20 and 30 series can even see a performance regression depending on the exact setup of card, game, resolution, and other game settings. It may not be worth using DLSS5's upscaler, if it even includes a new one, over past DLSS models on a 3080.

In short, don't trust AI to do research like this for you, and don't buy products based on promises of future features. Buy based on what the current capabilities are, and treat anything that you get after the fact as a cool bonus feature.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

I now think this is what really needs to be done. I will play on it at 2k resolution and ray tracing, but will 10g be enough even with 2k?

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Dorennor@reddit

And additional information - NTC is not pure magick. And it won't work in real-time decompression (which you want to decrease VRAM usage) on older than 40 series of GPUs. Read documentation of this tech. 20-30 series can support only decompression during load screens for example or before gameplay. Basically, it can help with size of game but not with VRAM usage, because unpacked and decompressed assets which you will see in-game they will be same size as original ones.

Still, 3070 is better than 6800 XT. But your expectations too naive, bro.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

They aren't expectations, a friend of mine is playing 4k on 3060ti , and in the comment section some one said he played for a while with 4k oled and 3080 , but I'm gonna use it in 2k any way now , If Nvidia develops new technologies, I'll buy 4K; if not, I'll stick with 2K anyway.

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Dorennor@reddit

And be sure, Nvidia develops new tech, yes. But not for older GPUs. Newest DLSS runs like shite on 20-30 gen, framegen not an option at all.

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Dorennor@reddit

It means that your friend plays extremely not demanding games or has extremely low expectations and standards of gaming. I play with 3060ti on 1080p and it is not enough for me. i sometimes have problems with VRAM usage and I have a few extremely good games which run like shit because of 8 Gb VRAM.

My standard - medium or high settings with DLSS Quality/Balance 60 or more FPS. And still, I have problems with reaching it from time to time.

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Dorennor@reddit

Nobody knows if it will be supported. Likely yes but c`mon. It was nor released nor even showed. All we have is DLSS newest Transformer models K (DLSS 4) and L/M (DLSS 4.5) and both works badly on gens older than 40, with huge penalty of performance (20-30%, basically if you turn on them you wont receive any FPS and probably will loose it).

Imo, better to buy something newer but a little lower in terms of segment - 5060ti 16 Gb will be far better, especially for more adequate resolutions like 1080p or 1440p. Your expected use case is already wrong, dude.

And P.S. I am OKish with using LLMs to research info but in terms of hardware and tech it extremely often spreads pure marketing BS instead of more nuanced information.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

That's why i posted on reddit, It always gives BS about cards in particular , thank you man , I appreciate it

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Dorennor@reddit

And nope, 10 Gb is not enough nor for future, not for current market, especially in 4k.

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BeltEffective9310@reddit

3080 is a 1440p card now, and it's pretty good for that. 4k is just too much for it now in modern unoptimized slop games.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

After researching it appears to be the fact, 4k was an exaggeration, I think i'll take the 2k experience

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BeltEffective9310@reddit

Yeah. There is a 12gb 3080 which has aged better, but those models are kind of rare and expensive. Even with more vram though, it won't have the performance.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

But I'm scared 10g won't be enough even for 2k

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FatalGamer1@reddit

It can run games in 4K but probably not in high settings. 10GB VRAM is definitely risky. Already a lot of games are demanding, so you should aim for 16GB VRAM. 3080 will utilise latest DLSS but not all of its features.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

Can it run ray tracing with 4K or is that impossible?

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BeltEffective9310@reddit

3080 doesn't have the performance. Even if it had more vram.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

For my standards it does have , I don't run a nuclear explosion on my pc , i just want 2k regular performance

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coolmouse7777@reddit

Have 3080 with 4k oled for 4 years now, run fine but need to monitor VRAM and set texture settings to fir in 10g.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

Most comments say its performance will be bad; I'm currently undecided. Is it capable of ray tracing with 4k compression, and will memory problems be too annoying?

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coolmouse7777@reddit

It depends of games you play and what performance you want. I mostly play single player story games. And 3080 delivered good performance for my taste.. Most raster games run native or with quality DLSS >60 FPS. Most demanding, like CP2077, Alan Wake 2 and RTX settings required balanced or performance DLSS to get >60 FPS. Path tracing performance is bad ,CP2077 UP DLSS (720p>4k)35-45 fps. Considering price and how old this GPU is not perfect for 4k but i think it is one of the cheapest 4k options right now and ampere architecture really shine at 4k. Memory problem really annoys me only when game have some memory leaks and need to restart game every 1-2 hours. When developers fix leaks or game have no in first place just setup game for 10g of VRAM and than played flawlessly. Most VRAM used by textures and RTX. Better GPU preferred for 4k gaming but next options from NVidia will be 3080ti, 3090, 4070ti super and all this options cost more and give not so much more power than 3080.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

Thank you bro , I wanted this comment exactly, I appreciate it 🙏🏻

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Awfulfange@reddit

It will run 4k. It won't have the best settings but it will run.

May have some random frame drops and such due to 10gb vram being very low for 4k standards, but again, it will play games at 4k.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

I know it's rare, but NTC technology looks very promising. I have a chance to buy a 6800xt card for the same price. What do you think? The main reason for my confusion is ray tracing.

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coolmouse7777@reddit

For 4k and Ray tracing 3080 better than 6800xt because of architecture and better upscaling. But, i think when NTC come to real world games 3080 will be old for this tech because ampere lack int8 support and even newer dlss 4.5 run poor on it because of lacking acceleration for tis types of models

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Perfect_Exercise_232@reddit

NCT is demanding...even if it gets more optimized it's gonna have a bigger performance cost on older architectures just like dlss 4 and 4.5 do

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Awfulfange@reddit

From what I can figure out, NTC has to be built into the game during the development stage. It cab be years before we see any notable games using it. By that time, the 3080 won't have the raw performance to take advantage of the tech.

With regards to the 6800xt vs 3080... If you want ray tracing then the 3080 is rhe better option. If you want 4k gaming, neither is a great option, but the 6800xt wirh 16gb vram is better.

Either way, I'd probably go 3080 @ 1440p.

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SquashElectrical6524@reddit (OP)

Thank you for your time ,now I think 3080 is better too

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zBaLtOr@reddit

Hmmmmm , should