Which one is better value? AMD + 5080 or Intel 270K + 5070 ti ?
Posted by sleep_eat_recycle@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 53 comments
Hello everyone, I want to build a pc from a local shop and there are some promotion lists, AMD 5080 is 2540USD, and Intel 270K 5070 ti is 1900USD.
The price is different which is obvious, for 5070ti that set, and both of them I guess I need upgrade the power supply. They both came with a 2k 27" monitor.
My concerns are, I heard I will need to change the motherboard and cpu in future when I cannot upgrade 270K, I believe it will lead to other problem to upgrade (I am not sure), I intend to have the PC running for at least 5-8 years. I mainly use the PC to play game from steam, not a competitive gamer, but casual, I play almost all games except online FPS, however I do want to have 4K experience(it means I may add another few hundreds later to buy new screen), I like to have something visually pleasing and I will want to do some minor photo and video restore from my childhood.
So I would like your opinion, which one has better value ? Which one you choose and why?
- Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D Tray (Upgrade to 9800X3D for an additional $1,000)
- Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M Force WIFI6E AM5 DDR5 Micro-ATX
- Graphics Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX™ 5080 WINDFORCE OC SFF 16GB GDDR7 (Free upgrade to ASUS PRIME GeForce RTX™ 5080 16GB GDDR7 OC Edition)
- Memory: ADATA LANCER RGB DDR5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 MHz C30 - Black
- Hard Drive: MSI M480 Pro 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
- Power Supply: Super Flower Zillion DB Bronze 850W ATX3.1 12V-2x6
- Case: ASUS A21 Micro-ATX - Black Includes 4 non-RGB fans (ARGB version adds $50)
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Cooler: Coolleo B60T V2 Dual Tower Dual Fan Six Heat Pipes
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Processor: Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 processor 270K Plus
- Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B860M-A WIFI-CSM LGA1851 DDR5 Micro-ATX
- Graphics Card: Manli Nebula GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16GB GDDR7
- Memory: ADATA LANCER RGB DDR5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 MHz C30 - Black
- Solid State Drive: ADATA Legend 860 1TB PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe M.2 2280 SSD
- Power Supply: MSI MAG A750BN PCIE5 III ATX 3.1 PCIE5.1
- Case: DarkFlash DK353 Mini with 4 non-RGB fans
- Cooler: Coolleo B60T V2 Dual Tower Dual Fan Six Heat Pipe CPU Air Cooler
CleverBumble@reddit
The people in this sub always suggest AMD. It's a waste of time to ask them anything, go do your research and see what works for you.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
May I ask why is like this?
CleverBumble@reddit
it's a long story lol But AMD was budget and unstable for years, with worse performance. In recent years they increased their stability and intel had one bad CPU which only got bad when overlcoked to the max. So these long time fans of AMD are popping up supporting AMD.
AMD chips still an incomplete which only beats intel on gaming because that's where the buildpc community is centered around.
But if you're doing anything else, just try intel.
Most reviews is centered around gaming, but the moment you start doing other tasks like AI, video encoding etc it shows intel is actually more complete.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
I am about to spend like 2000 usd something on a pc, and I would like to do what a PC is capable to do, although this moment I have nothing in my mind except restore videos we took in 90s.
CleverBumble@reddit
You def need intel and 5070 Ti
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
There’s way better value CPU and GPU options besides the mentioned ones, but if these are the only 2 builds you can get with no changes to them I’d say the cheaper build is completely fine for 1440p 144hz+ gaming if you want to save the extra money
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
Which one?? I probably need something lower than these 2 price
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
7500f/7600(x)/9600x + 9070 XT (basically same performance as a 5070ti) would be completely fine for 1440p 144hz+
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
There is a set of this 9070 xt, which is 1670 USD., to upgrade to 9700x is adding 70 USD, and another 150 USD for 2 TB and Asus tuf gaming B650E, so total around 1890.
Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 7700 Tray (1670 USD) / AMD Ryzen™ 5 9600X AM5 Tray (1658 USD)
Motherboard: ASRock B850M Rock WiFi DDR5 AM5 Micro-ATX
Graphics Card: Sapphire PULSE AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT 16GB GDDR6
Memory: ADATA LANCER RGB DDR5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 MHz C30 - Black
SSD: ADATA Legend 860 1TB PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe M.2 2280 SSD
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750BN PCIE5 III ATX 3.1 PCIE5.1
Case: DarkFlash DK353 Mini Tempered Glass Micro-ATX with 4 non-RGB fans
Cooler: MSI MAG COREFROZR AA13
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
This seems decent for the price
Would get you almost identical 5070ti performance
mattmaster68@reddit
As someone who put together an AM4 build in December after months and months of research, that 5080 one kinda feels like a steal.
HayesBrewery@reddit
Go 7800x3d and 5080. Both are better I think.
7800x3d is on AM5 chipset, which AMD has committed to until at least 2027 and maybe beyond, meaning you will have options for CPU upgrades down the line without swapping out the mobo.
YourfriendAnxiety@reddit
I think the best value would be 7800X3D + 5070 Ti + a good B650 motherboard + 1 TB NVMe SSD.
You say you want to do 4k gaming, and the 5080 is superior for that, but it doesn't have better value than the 5070 Ti. Second, if you can ask them to use a B650 motherboard as well, like a Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX, you'll save more because they offer basically no loss in performance and are noticeably cheaper. And finally, I think the SSD is better than the hard drive to avoid stuttering in more demanding games, even though it has less storage.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
That will be 30 USD to upgrade to Asus tuf B650 wifi (gigabyte and another is not listed for upgrade), and 108 USD to upgrade to 7800x3d.
This plan is 1888 USD :
Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 5 9600X Tray
Motherboard: ASRock B850M Rock WiFi DDR5 AM5 Micro-ATX
Graphics Card: Manli Nebula GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16GB GDDR7
Memory: ADATA LANCER RGB DDR5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 MHz C30
SSD: ADATA Legend 860 1TB PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe M.2 2280 SSD
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750BN PCIE5 III ATX 3.1 PCIE5.1
Case: DarkFlash DK353 Mini with 4 non-RGB fans
Cooler: MSI MAG COREFROZR AA13
YourfriendAnxiety@reddit
For 4K gaming I think this is fine then. Judging from benchmarks, the difference between the 7800X3D and the 9600X is only significant at 1080p and 1440p but at 4K there is virtually no difference. I don't have an issue with any other parts either.
raydialseeker@reddit
Whoever this seller is really skimps on the motherboard. Would recommend looking for another if possible
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
How about this one:
Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 5 9600X Tray
Motherboard: ASRock B850M Rock WiFi DDR5 AM5 Micro-ATX
Graphics Card: Manli Nebula GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16GB GDDR7
Memory: ADATA LANCER RGB DDR5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 MHz C30
SSD: ADATA Legend 860 1TB PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe M.2 2280 SSD
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750BN PCIE5 III ATX 3.1 PCIE5.1
Case: DarkFlash DK353 Mini with 4 non-RGB fans
Cooler: MSI MAG COREFROZR AA13
raydialseeker@reddit
Terrible mobo, bronze psu, random gpu brand
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
This one price is 1888 usd, with another 30 USD I can upgrade to Asus Tuf B650 wifi, 76 USD to upgrade to gigabyte gpu, and 40 USD to upgrade to a super flower gold 850W ... it means 2034 USD
raydialseeker@reddit
Upgrade the mobo and psu 100%. It's also worth looking at a 9070xt if they're available for significantly less($200 USD or more)
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
Not significantly less, if it is 9070xt with all the upgrade, will be like 150 usd less
raydialseeker@reddit
Quite surprising. If you're just buying the parts the 5070ti is 1300 aud and 9070xt is 900 aud. Anyway if it's only 150 then get the 5070ti
prank_mark@reddit
AMD + 5080 is better, BUT Intel + 5070 Ti is better value. The 5080 isn't worth $600 more. I also saw you can go for a 7800X3D + 5070 Ti for $1988. That gives you a bit more options to upgrade your CPU later, however considering you're already getting the best CPUs right now, that's not that big of a deal. If you do other things beside gaming I'd go for Intel considering their better performance in productivity tasks. If not, the choice is really up to you. Also you might want to have a look if they have an option with a 9070 XT instead of a 5070 Ti. The performance is almost identical in most games but the 5070 Ti can be quite a bit cheaper.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
It looks like after few year my motherboard, cpu and graphic card will be outdated again, so it looks possible that I have to throw and sell everything.=
prank_mark@reddit
This PC should last at least 5 years, and presumably even longer as long as games don't become extremely more demanding on hardware.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
you mean intel or AMD will be able to use for at least 5 years?
prank_mark@reddit
Both. Neither CPU should require an upgrade within the next 5 years.
ROS_SDN@reddit
Can you flip to a 9070xt?
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
This one is 1670 USD
Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 7700 Tray
Motherboard: ASRock B850M Rock WiFi DDR5 AM5 Micro-ATX
Graphics Card: Sapphire PULSE AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT 16GB GDDR6
Memory: ADATA LANCER RGB DDR5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 MHz C30 - Black
SSD: ADATA Legend 860 1TB PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe M.2 2280 SSD
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750BN PCIE5 III ATX 3.1 PCIE5.1
Case: DarkFlash DK353 Mini Tempered Glass Micro-ATX with 4 non-RGB fans
Cooler: MSI MAG COREFROZR AA13
ROS_SDN@reddit
You'd like to be a 7700x or 9700x, but yeah if you want to save money I'd steer clear "x3d" chip or current gen nvidia.
If you play a lot of CPU intensive games - total war, civ, Microsoft flight simulator - the x3d is worth it, but you're only playing in 2k.
I get like 80-90 fps on god of war ragnarok on my 9700x + 9070xt in 4k. You'll GPU will destroy 2k for a 9070xt if it sells cheaper.
This depends on your games, monitor hz etc, but you don't need a 5080 for 2k and a 5070 ti is just a more expensive 9070 XT with better ray tracing.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
I mostly play citybuilder, management game, or something like planet zoo. However if I have upgraded PC maybe I will play cyberpunk or other action game again, I am very bad at those so usually I play something more 'calm'. The monitor they give is tuf 27" which is 210 hz
ROS_SDN@reddit
Cyber punk can be a bit rough on the CPU you might benefit from a x3d.
I'd look at CPU benchmarks for your intended games and consider how close youre willing to get.
I play on my TV so 60 fps is the cap for my HTPC even though it can do more, but you might care to be 100+ often
Ill_Difference_4039@reddit
if it's just gaming then definitely the amd + 5080, also take the free upgrade on it, get the asus prime instead of the SFF
raydialseeker@reddit
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/q7x4qd
ssuper2k@reddit
For 1440p I'd go for 270k+5070ti
Go 7800/9800x3D if you only use it for games
Intel has much better MC perf
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
Maybe I will use it to store and restore some ancient photos and videos, but tbh it is mainly for gaming and entertainment
dabrainznl@reddit
1000usd upgrade from 7800X3D to 9800X3D? What is this scam. 9800X3D barely costs 100$ more. 🥲
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
Sorry that is my currency, it is USD 127
dabrainznl@reddit
Ohh, makes more sense. My bad. 🤣
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
haha sorry, I was using hong kong dollar :P
Rudradev715@reddit
Intel 270k + 5070ti better value
Goddemmitt@reddit
You're asking about value, but you want a 5080 or a 5070ti...?
AzureBat@reddit
How much would it be for the 7800X3D + 5070 Ti?
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
They have this set for 1888 USD, for 7800x3d is another 100 USD, 9800x3d will be 250 USD
Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 5 9600X Tray
Motherboard: ASRock B850M Rock WiFi DDR5 AM5 Micro-ATX
Graphics Card: Manli Nebula GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16GB GDDR7
Memory: ADATA LANCER RGB DDR5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 MHz C30
SSD: ADATA Legend 860 1TB PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe M.2 2280 SSD
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750BN PCIE5 III ATX 3.1 PCIE5.1
Case: DarkFlash DK353 Mini with 4 non-RGB fans
Cooler: MSI MAG COREFROZR AA13
AzureBat@reddit
Yup go with 7800X3D + 5070 Ti. Unless you can afford the 5080 then go with that instead.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
I can afford, but I feel like I will lose less if I buy a cheaper one, electronic stuff is less and less expensive everyday, therefore I look for best value.
Lonely_Platform7702@reddit
I'd get the 7800X3D + 5070Ti for 1988. 7800X3D is better than a 270K and still has the option to upgrade in the future. Imo the 5080 is not worth 500 more than a 5070Ti (performance difference is about 15%).
The 7800X3D + 5070Ti combo for less than 2K USD is actually pretty decent value in the current hardware market.
ADo_9000@reddit
I would go AMD, purely for the hope of future upgradability.
You can always upgrade the GPU down the road.
but if you go Intel and find the CPU performance lacking it's gonna be a lot more annoying to swap out the motherboard, CPU and potential ram and CPU-cooler compared to AMD where you just change the CPU.
But 1000$ for upgrading the CPU from a 7800x3d to 9800x3d is ridiculous. The 9800x3d costs around 350-400$ at most a 175$ increase over the 7800x3d price. Get the 7800x3d, and buy and upgrade it to a 9800x3d yourself.
Side note. Neither of the power supplies are very good, they will work no problem but are definitely a place where they are cutting corners.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
Sorry I forgot to change the currency, that should be around 130 USD to change to 9800x3d, your list indeed fall into my budget
NewestAccount2023@reddit
The 7800x3d 5080 is the better but. You'll be able to upgrade the CPU two generations but if you go Intel there's no upgrade path. The 3d cache makes it the second best gaming CPU on the market (first being 9800x3d). AMD will release one more generation on that socket so you'll be able to go to a 11800x3d (or whatever they call it) down the line.
Also for 4k you need the fastest GPU you can afford so again go for the 5080 system
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit (OP)
270 K CPU is 360 USD, motherboard is 205 USD, total of 565 USD, I honestly don't want to throw it away in future but also don't want to sell it like for 20 bucks, there are too many electronic trash at home already
MagicMaverick22@reddit
AMD + 5080, and you can swap the 7800x3d for 9800x3d yourself for 400 to 500$.
Dry-Influence9@reddit
7800X3D is a better cpu and 5080 is a better gpu so the choice is clear.