Anyone that moved to Italy?

Posted by Extra_Loquat_5599@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 21 comments

I know a lot of people that moved to places like Germany or Austria. I have been there and they are ugly as fuck.

I don't really care about having a career or earning lots of money and i really liked the vibe of Italy.

I heared there are a lot of balkan people that moved there. Whats it like? and why Italy?

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I visited Italy for the first time last year and the cities are fun to visit as a tourist but isn't a country I'd like to live in. Old architecture is nice but I don't care for the typical residential architecture, even classic one is not my cup of tea.

I don't like their typical houses and flats with the green window covers as much as I like the traditional houses found in Portugal, France, Greece, various Balkan countries.

They're also xenophobic towards Eastern Europeans.

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carrraldo@reddit

Can you describe what you mean by ugly as fuck. The people there, the people from balkans who moved there, the cities, the landscape? Would be interesting Tobias know what you are not searching for.

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Extra_Loquat_5599@reddit (OP)

Austria and especially Germany are just grey and gloomy. Not just the weather, the whole atmosphere.

You find some interesting architecture here and there but the buildings in general are just plain and boring.

The food is meh at best.

I felt dead the whole time i was there.

Everyone i met there seemed like they were not living but just existing.

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Happy-Hour88@reddit

I agree, but Salzburg, Graz, Steyr, and Ulm are very pretty.

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mojokotso@reddit

i agree 100% with you but ugly as F is a stretch

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Kaminazuma@reddit

Southern Germany is really beautiful if you avoid Stuttgart and Munich. I lived for 4 years in Freiburg and now since 7 years in Karlsruhe and those cities are not car-centric and have great public transport and bike lanes. Both cities are Top 20 in the world for living quality, have great green spaces and you have so many outdoor possibility with the Black Forest being directly nearby.

I lived previously in Rome, Milan, Tirana, Pristina and also Berlin. So I have experienced both (Balkans, Italy and Germany) a little bit.

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BissmarkMC@reddit

Germany and Austria are ugly af? Are you out of your mind?

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mojokotso@reddit

I dont have a opinion about German cities but Austria - Vienna outside of the city center and and very specific places close to the center is a glorified - more organized Soviet Bloc!!
And not only Vienna... St.polten ,wiener neustadt ,Neusiedl am See which is more like a swamp

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NightZT@reddit

You forgot Oberwart and Wels

But apart from those, most Austrian cities are pretty nice imo, even the small ones

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bipolar1_baby325@reddit

Austria ia a masterpiece

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Legal_Apartment5789@reddit

They are

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Emyhatsich@reddit

When romanians move to Italy, they completely fuse with the country and become italians lol. At least, this is what an italian told me.

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ZhiveBeIarus@reddit

Lol how are Germany and Austria "ugly as fuck" 😅?

I understand that you might personally dislike their architecture and find it to be boring or whatever, but "ugly as fuck" is pushing it and yk that.

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Fun-Quail-7959@reddit

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OkStage2834@reddit

It's 50/50. The people are cordial but don't expect deep relationships as in the Balkan. Italians are more profiteers, especially in the north. And it's not nice to say but people are racist, a lot, against east Europeans. The food is great, the weather is generally nice in spring and summer. Everything is really expensive, the salaries are around 1300 monthly euros. Getting a driving car costs around 1400 euros. So higher salaries, but higher expenses, too. The public transportation is a disaster and driving lately has been hard with many restrictions especially in the cities. Energy and fuel are an gigantic economic burden. Everything has taxes, even having a balcony is an expense because it makes a shadow on public soil. It's not really a safe country, the law doesn't protect people, so if you get robbed you can say bye to your things. Someone destroyed my car, years ago, and robbed my oducments. I went to the police department and they asked me for the documents but because I didn't have them, they robbed me, they couldn't proceed with the complaint. It was a really beautiful place decades ago but lately the politics destroyed many beautiful aspects. The health care is public but slow, really slow, so prepare yourself about saving money for private health care. You are not going to have a pension, we younger generations pay taxes for the pension of elderly people, but we are not going to have one. It's not bad, but it's good either, but if you have, it's an amazing choice. Have you thought about Spain?

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V0R88@reddit

I moved to Northern Italy in 2019. Not directly from Greece I was already living abroad and my company transferred me.

It’s not perfect but it’s what I call a good compromise: better salaries but not great, better bureaucracy but it still exists and it’s a pain, better infrastructure but not great, good schools and hospitals but not like in the north. The weather is continental so it sucks in summer and winter since I don’t live by the sea. The working culture is similar to Balkans, long hours but more relaxed and they don’t expect you to die for them at least. Not like the north though.

Food is great, it’s easy to blend in if you speak Italian (I spoke Spanish so I could speak fluently within a year just by being here) and there is a lot of amazing places you haven’t even heard of.

Best thing is that if you are an EU citizen and working for a high skilled job you get a tax discount of 50% for 5 years extendable to 10 if you buy a house or have a kid within the first period. It’s what keeps me here I make a lot of money like this. It was originally meant to combat brain drain but being in EU it counts even if you are not Italian. In the south it’s 90% in some places but there is a reason: it’s like the Balkans in their worst. If I wanted to live like this I would go to rural Greece

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V0R88@reddit

Just to explain about south Italy.

It’s a lot like home. It’s poorer, dirtier with rubbish everywhere. People are like us, you can make friends easier and your friends will do everything for you but if they don’t know you they will screw you at first opportunity. People drive like maniacs and little works as intended. South Italian migrate to the north in droves.

Just an example. I have a British friend that was transferred in a plant in Salerno south of Naples while I was transferred in the north. You need to get a residency when you live here.

For my residency I booked an appointment online. After two weeks I went to the mayoral offices, waited a total of 10 minutes and finished the application. Two weeks later a policeman passed from my home to verify I actually lived there. Two weeks after that I had my residency papers printed on luxury paper with the seal of the city watermarked on it with gold.

My friend tried for weeks to get an appointment without being able to, got desperate and finally at work somebody heard his story and called a cousin who knew somebody that worked in the mayor office. They went together to do the papers and after he got the visit from the policeman after a month he got after another month a residency papers printed in black and white from a ln office printer from a document scanned so many times it was faded.

This is the same country 😛

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