Automatic registration for military draft to be implemented by December.

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UncleJimneedsyou@reddit

Well, I’m too old for this, but I would recommend everyone who is of age to tell the administration to fuck the fuck off!

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ballad_of_love@reddit

Good idea genius, and they will all get a felony for failure to register.

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BigBlueEyes87@reddit

Trump has been convicted of 34 felonies and he's the president.

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So lemme get this right, you are speaking out against a President with felonies by telling other people to commit felonies? Got it. Unfortunate that you have all those years and wisdom never came with it

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BigBlueEyes87@reddit

Not registering for the selective service in the United States isn't a felony.

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ballad_of_love@reddit

Yeah. Thats what I thought. Know your place

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BigBlueEyes87@reddit

You must have serious issues.

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ballad_of_love@reddit

Yup, it’s called being able to conduct basic research and form my own opinions. Democrats have huge problems with that these days. Go spread your bs elsewhere

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BigBlueEyes87@reddit

Trump was a draft dodger. He lied about having bone spurs to avoid a military draft. Nothing happened to him for lying to avoid a military draft.

Telling other people that they'll go to prison or become felons for not registering for the selective service is asinine.

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ballad_of_love@reddit

That was pulled directly from the SSS website. If you are going to try and argue legitimate, irrefutable fact, I can’t help you. Continue to live in your world of delusion or go get the help you need, I could not care less

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ballad_of_love@reddit

You are absolutely retarded. God help anyone cursed to be your offspring

“If required to register, failure to register is a felony punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or 5 years imprisonment. Also, a person who knowingly counsels, aids, or abets another to fail to comply with the registration requirement is subject to the same penalties.”

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SnivyEyes@reddit

Compulsory voting should be a thing in America. I don’t care about your freedom “not to vote”, you all are the reason we are in this mess along with those who did vote MAGA. If you can auto register selective service, you can do the same for voting as it’s the same age. If you are already a felon by 18, then you have your own problems to deal with.

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ballad_of_love@reddit

Forcing people to vote is a terrible idea lmao 😂

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SnivyEyes@reddit

Why? Every single person who can legally vote should be doing so. There are already many things we are all forced to do anyway, this literally would gave prevented a criminal from being re-elected. I don’t care if you don’t like it, you probably don’t even vote if you have a problem with this.

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ChattyOracle@reddit

Should have a law like Australia

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ReStitchSmitch@reddit

What's the law you're referring to? I'm a dumb US folk.

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SnivyEyes@reddit

It’s one of the things that Australia does right. It’s also where Bluey came from!

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vapemyashes@reddit

Disgusting

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ballad_of_love@reddit

It’s unfortunate you dont have the reading comprehension to know that nothing has changed

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Throwawayaccountdell@reddit

I know right. I am completely against automatic registration especially with this administration that can use this information for their gain like for their DOGE things.

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OrdinaryMix4013@reddit

Why would Obama do this

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River_City_Rando@reddit

Biden shit in my pants again!

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wolacouska@reddit

Biden sucked so bad that people voted for Trump.

Why don’t you believe politicians with billions of dollars in their campaign have any responsibility to campaign well?

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River_City_Rando@reddit

Triggered bro?

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premar16@reddit

If they do this for the draft why can't they do this for automatic voting registration

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Temporary_Meat7053@reddit

It should have already been automatic.

but the optics of when this is being implemented looks very bad. very bad.

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frenchburner@reddit

I’d be less worried about automatic registration than automatic draft.

It’s likely on the horizon.

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Secret_Cat_2793@reddit

But not to vote. Smh

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One-Library-7014@reddit

Gen Z voted for this. They fuckin voted to be drafted.

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Designer_Gas_86@reddit

I refuse to blame a whole generation...

...except Boomers.

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kayl_breinhar@reddit

Or rather, as usual, didn't vote. For anything.

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JudgmentUnited5297@reddit

So is collective punishment now an official democratic platform policy? Wow how appealing to kids in red states and to the ones that actually did vote.

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mindhypnotized@reddit

I think you’re confusing punishment with consequences. Democrats aren’t in a position to punish anyone right now. And even when they are in such a position they slow-walk prosecutions and refuse to do anything but capitulate. So what are you even talking about?

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Alexis_Mcnugget@reddit

the lack of a proper education system caused this but let’s blame gen Z

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One-Library-7014@reddit

You mean lack of paying attention.

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OpheliaLives7@reddit

Bannon seems specifically to be targeting young white men online. Gamergate was the trial run.

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HomoExtinctisus@reddit

If only we could have inculcated them better...

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JudgmentUnited5297@reddit

I really wish people remembered 2004. Maybe you weren't born yet, but the only thing more demoralizing than watching half your peers get maimed in Iraq was trying to convince people that John Kerry was worth voting for. Personality of a freeze dried cryptid and when he was sec state he showed he was just fine shipping young people off to die anyways.

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thefedfox64@reddit

Most of those people you are talking about couldnt vote in 2004. And it if you want to talk about that era, why not start with the Supreme court giving it to Bush not Gore.

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JudgmentUnited5297@reddit

Accountability > whataboutisms

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thefedfox64@reddit

Yes, but picking some arbitrary point becomes the whataboutism. You picked 2004 specifically to say "what about 2004". So why would mine be any different?

I mean, I get you on that - agreed. But the premise is asking what about 2004 and what happened. I think its fair to ask, sure but what about 2000 and what happened then? 2004 didnt happen in a isolated bubble. Then again 2000 didnt happen either. And as I said, most people you talked about not voting wouldn't have been able to vote in 2004 regardless, so how can they be accountable?

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JudgmentUnited5297@reddit

It's the absolute allergy to accepting any responsibility that gets me. Nobody in party leadership is asking what went wrong, or willing to accept any past example without redirecting to something else. It's insulting to those of us who, maybe naively, thought this wasn't all performative & donated a ton of volunteer time over the last 20 years. That's the point I was making about Kerry. Even with the most dogshit candidates, I was willing to set aside platform disagreements so I could still canvas.

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thefedfox64@reddit

Ahh, I gotcha. That makes sense, and I agree with you.

I think where I was coming from, if you didn't already suspect, was - I can't be responsible for shit that happened before I was allowed to have a say. Nor should I? If that makes sense, like don't put the debt my father incurred onto my household that way.

I do agree that in my case, my father is still alive, and should PAY for his debts, but that isn't my responsibility, and I suspect most younger (at least than me) people's responsibility. Using the same example, don't get mad at me because my father fucked something up, it ain't my fault. And blaming me, or asking me to be accountable for HIS mistake, is only going to drive me, and others, away from what you are saying/asking. Even if it's right, psychology says that method doesn't work on people, it doesn't serve the purpose, and in truth, being right doesn't matter so much as what the outcome is. Again, armchair psychology BS says look to the outcomes of people, don't focus on being "Right" (not right wing, just hey I'm right about this, I told you so, it's a self-defeating projection.)

Now, I am not saying that's what you are doing, but it seems like that's what you are doing. "Hey Kids, why won't you take responsibility for Kerry, or democrats in 2004?" - "'Cause I was 12, dude." - "You just don't want to be accountable for what the party did yesterday." That's just how I'm reading it, so if I'm misunderstanding my bad.

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JudgmentUnited5297@reddit

Yeah I get that. My equivalent would be what happened with in the Clinton era. Something that's helped me is just accepting my parents mistakes as my own, because the same unapologetic dynamic is at play with their generation. It really sucks because I can see the blame game get compounded the same way generational trauma gets passed on. Someone has to take accountability and I'd rather break the cycle than pass the buck.

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thefedfox64@reddit

That's pretty interesting. And I suppose a good supporting reason for why. I personally don't believe that, as if we are equating accountability with trauma, I think not inflicting the trauma is the best way (IMO). I'm not going to apologize to my sister (in this example) for our father/mother inflicting trauma, and taking on that burden as my responsibility.

But this isn't the same as trauma, so I get that part as well. I think acknowledging it exists, striving to do better, and instituting better safety guards is important. I also think too, that... and this goes deeper down the rabbit hole, so feel free to ignore. I don't want you to be accountable; you are just one person. The party exists separately, and like a new CEO cleaning up the mess of an old one. They aren't punished personally, the company may be, but we all know that this new CEO didn't do the thing, and yes, apologize, and admit that the company fucked up. But just wanting you to know, like dude. It isn't your fault, and it isn't your cross to bear. It is the storm we need to weather.

That aside - I do want too... comment... ok so like this sucks to say it this way. But my father put into place a lot of things that prevent what HIS father and grandfather did. I know it isn't perfect, and while I do wish they were, or maybe did more. When I look back, historically, and see what came before. From civil rights to beating children, to human rights, to all of that. Sometimes I have to be glad they chose to focus on what mattered to them, which was kinda big ticket items.

My friend in insurance uses this example - if the roof is on fire, and the basement is flooded, you need to get out of the house. Do not deal with the flood, do not deal with the fire. And the first priority would be dealing with the fire, because it can spread to your neighbors, and it's the most dangerous thing. Yes, the flood should be dealt with, but it can come later, or not at all, if something bad happens to you. Like you want to deal with the flood, but leave to go to the hotel, you get hit by a drunk driver. I feel like that's kinda what they dealt with in a way. Just one after another, and now I'm mad because my father never dealt with the flood.

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Daxx22@reddit

I really wish people remembered 2004

Remind me again of what party was in power that year?

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wolacouska@reddit

Yeah, Kerry sucked so bad he lost to Bush after the Iraq war started.

Democrats know what they’re doing.

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JudgmentUnited5297@reddit

That would be the uniparty.

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mjetski123@reddit

the only thing more demoralizing than watching half your peers get maimed in Iraq was trying to convince people that John Kerry was worth voting for

Congrats. This is most likely the dumbest fucking thing I'll read today.

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JudgmentUnited5297@reddit

Neoliberals never beating the anti-human allegations.

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DissedFunction@reddit

hysterical much?

kids in red states got appealed to. during election time. GOP won CONGRESS and POtUS and runs SCOtUS.

so quit blaming dems for something they are not implementing.

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JudgmentUnited5297@reddit

Sounds like I hit a blue maga nerve. Sorry for the ouchie!

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mjetski123@reddit

Why am I not shocked that your account is only a month old?

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wolacouska@reddit

Lmao you guys are going to keep making your bubble smaller and smaller under everything you don’t like is fake news.

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mjetski123@reddit

When did I say anything was fake news? That's your dipshit president and his dipshit supporters thing.

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JudgmentUnited5297@reddit

Why am I not shocked that you had to look at my profile rather than engage with my point substantively.

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MadDingersYo@reddit

How is this democrats fault? Lol

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Daxx22@reddit

Because marble brain only allow one concept.

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existing_for_fun@reddit

I can't be drafted unless shit gets reeaaall bad. So let them have what they voted for.

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BeautifulHindsight@reddit

Seriously?

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existing_for_fun@reddit

I'm a veteran. I served. I was injured. I COULD go again if I had some insane waiver, I guess.

If people vote for wanting a draft, fucking let them be drafted.

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crowislanddive@reddit

My son is 16 and a half. He sure as fuck didn’t vote to get drafted.

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nobody4456@reddit

This is what bothers me the most about the magats. The choices they made aren’t going to really hurt them, they are going to hurt my kids.

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BitchfulThinking@reddit

They're even happy to hurt their own kids. They're happy as long as everyone else isn't.

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crowislanddive@reddit

I couldn’t agree more.

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BeautifulHindsight@reddit

Ah yes the old if it doesn't affect me I don't care attitude. People like you are why we are in this fucking mess!

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katokalon@reddit

You realize this isn’t voting for a draft, right? This is just automating the selection service system which you are already legally required to sign up for if you’re a man.

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One-Library-7014@reddit

Yeah he’s over reacting.

It is, however, a terribly stupid time to announce/enact this.

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throwawayt44c@reddit

As they say: the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago..

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One-Library-7014@reddit

It would be naive to think that simply

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throwawayt44c@reddit

The rest of the quote is: "the second best time is today."

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existing_for_fun@reddit

People like me?

Maybe people that voted for a draft are why we are in this mess lol.

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AzieltheLiar@reddit

If you get drafted, join me in stealing as much food and luxury items as we can before deployment so we spend ages in the brig, fat and happy.

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existing_for_fun@reddit

Sold

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Ashamed-Country3909@reddit

Probably what the russian guys on crutches thought before being sent back out to...charge on crutches in Ukraine. (Againts Ukraine).

Could always get worse.

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texteditorSI@reddit

Russia hasn't involved any conscripts in Ukraine, they are just paying volunteers high bonuses still. You are just making shit up

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Ashamed-Country3909@reddit

Lol? Search crutches on the ukraine war subreddit, or combat footage subreddit.

The point is being fucked uo wont save you. You will be sent out to eat a drone even on crutches.

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wolacouska@reddit

You’re going to be on the front line eating a drone and you’ll go “if only those zoomers had voted harder, at least I can die smug”

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Ashamed-Country3909@reddit

Nah, im too old.

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No-Impress-2096@reddit

So many stories of forced military service where they circumvent that small law by beating them up and forcing them to sign a contract.

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wolacouska@reddit

You’re thinking of Ukraine

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DuckTalesOohOoh@reddit

It's the law no matter what.

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prince-a-bubu@reddit

Trump respects the law

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DuckTalesOohOoh@reddit

He does, even when he doesn't like it.

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One-Library-7014@reddit

Everything this administration does is to serve itself. Otherwise to do this now is just a dumb look.

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DuckTalesOohOoh@reddit

What a dumb take.

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AvgChrisEnergy@reddit

I’d say choke on a dick, but trumps is too small and you’re already trying

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One-Library-7014@reddit

Lmao wrong again buddy

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FadedIntegra@reddit

Buddy the draft has been a required sign up for like 100 years this will just make it easier to do.

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dittybopper_05H@reddit

Ummm, young males have always been subject to being called up for military service, going back well over a thousand years in our legal system, through the entire history of the United States, our history as colonies of the United Kingdom, and as subjects of the crown before we even made it across the Atlantic.

Nobody voted for it. For all practical purposes, compulsory military service when selected has existed forever.

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Alexis_Mcnugget@reddit

which racial demographic of gen Z btw? make sure you name it

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Welllllllrip187@reddit

Not entirely. “He knows those voting machines so well” “they’ll never know, they’ll never know!!!”

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InvestIntrest@reddit

Voter registration is a state responsibility. Some states do have automatic voter registration.

The draft is federal, and I always thought it was weird that every 18 year old male had to fill out that little card and mail it back. It's not like the government doesn't already have your information.

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dittybopper_05H@reddit

Voting is optional. Unlike in Australia, you’re not required to vote or even register to vote.

For a specific population, registering for selective service is compulsory.

Having said that, I agree it’s unfair. Women should be required to register also. You want equality? You have to share the burdens, not just the rewards.

BTW, I never registered. I didn’t have to: I’d signed up for active duty months before I hit my 18th birthday.

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

When women get equality in heath care and all other areas, we can talk about women signing up for the draft. When men start sharing our burdens, then we can talk about sharing theirs.

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dittybopper_05H@reddit

Sure.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30222463/

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

Are you trying to say something?

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dittybopper_05H@reddit

Yes. Are you incapable of reading for yourself and figuring it out?

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

I'm not going to make your arguments for you. If you cant articulate your point of view, that's your problem not mine.

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dittybopper_05H@reddit

I made my argument.

That you didn't understand it because it required reading is your problem, not mine.

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

Sure.

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thefedfox64@reddit

Didnt know serving your country was a burden to women.

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

The poster I replied to is the one who said it so ask him.

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thefedfox64@reddit

He said it was a burden for men. You said it was a burden for women.

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

No I didn't???

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thefedfox64@reddit

Before I'm accused of manspaining - yeah, you did. But there is a really is a better alternative here - you don't agree that serving your country is a burden? I don't agree with that - I think it's part and parcel of living in a country (at least one where you have a vote and a voice), at times one may be called to serve it. Be it on a jury, be it in active duty, be it rationing, be it standby. It's a duty, and duties are not burdens; that's why we call them duties

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

Quote where I said it.

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thefedfox64@reddit

When women get equality in heath care and all other areas, we can talk about women signing up for the draft. When men start sharing our burdens, then we can talk about sharing theirs.

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

I see you just quoted me word for word but my words dont say what you claim they do so im not understanding how you interpreted them that way.

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thefedfox64@reddit

You literally asked me to quote you. So I did just that.

Your words do say that only when men share women's burdens, will you share theirs. So the draft is a burden to you; that's why you specifically said, when all other areas are equal, then we are allowed to talk about women signing up for the draft (talk about a privilege, you don't sign up for the draft). It's not implied, it's not assumed. If the draft isn't a burden, then it wouldn't be something you'd only do if/when men share women's burdens. You made it clear that only when we share burdens, not other stuff, but burdens.

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

The person I replied to called it a burden. I already told you I was using his language. If you have a problem the word burden take it up with him.

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thefedfox64@reddit

So you use words and definitions you don't mean, just to reply to another person? Wild

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

Your arguments doesn't make any sense. Im blocking you

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BrewtalKombucha@reddit

Peak patriarchy to blame the woman who uses the same language as the man.

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thefedfox64@reddit

Just keep pointing the finger at everything else to avoid talking about the topic you replied to.

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wwaxwork@reddit

If you want it to be "fair" and have women be registered, too, you should have voted for women in power. Men made these laws, not women. You voted in people that ran on the women are weak and incompetent and need to stay home platform, you can't have it both ways.

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dittybopper_05H@reddit

Right. Because women in power will absolutely work to have what advantages they do have removed.

That’s sarcasm in case you have Sheldon Cooper-like social awareness.

Which seems likely, because what you wrote is one of the most ludicrous things I’ve ever seen. And for the record, I have voted for women. Including for the junior senator from my state (NY) back when she was my representative.

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MamasCupcakes@reddit

Because voting relies on where you live for what you can vote on, military service doesnt matter....

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Girafferage@reddit

Well yeah, that would mess up their plans to disenfranchise specific groups of voters.

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Hirokage@reddit

The event itself is a non-story, nothing has changed. The automation has me raising my eyebrows. It's not like this administration has been efficient unless there is something in it for them.

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skoldane7@reddit

Which is why it’s strange it’s making so many headlines. It’s almost as if they’re warming us up to idea with talk

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Solo_Camping_Girl@reddit

Hmmm. Just thinking hypothetically. Can you mess up so bad during the bootcamp phase that they just kick you out? Or if you're drafted, you're basically going to be treated like a Russian in Ukraine and just given gear and a 15-minute tutorial on how to move and shoot a rifle.

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DownwardSpirals@reddit

We all had to register for Selective Service before, it's just "automatic". Given the administration, they'll probably fuck it up, so probably for the better.

There is a lot worse news from this administration than automatic registration for Selective Service.

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FeralGiraffeAttack@reddit

Yeah the title is misleading. The article actually says “Most males between the ages of 18 and 25 are required to register with the Selective Service in the event that Congress and the president authorize conscription in response to a national emergency. The new rule, mandated by defense policy legislation passed by Congress last year, will register men automatically rather than require them to register themselves within 30 days of their 18th birthdays.” This is no different than the situation in “46 states and territories that automatically register men for the Selective Service when they obtain a driver’s license, learner’s permit or state identification card”

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billymumfreydownfall@reddit

Except before it was males were required to register within 30 days of their 18th birthday but would go unpunished if they didn't register until they are 26. Now it is automatic registration at 18, no grace period.

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FeralGiraffeAttack@reddit

Why would you need a grace period if registration is automatic? There isn’t a need for one

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billymumfreydownfall@reddit

That's just what it is. I don't understand it either.

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FeralGiraffeAttack@reddit

I don't understand what you don't understand. Having no grace period makes sense because nobody is going to need it if registration is automatic. That just makes sense from a practicality standpoint.

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ReasonablePossum_@reddit

Small branches moving to the wind still sjow its direction.

Small red flag, but still a flag.

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Plastic-Ad-5324@reddit

Minnesota has had automatic registration since 2003. This is seriously a non-issue.

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Rough-Adeptness-6670@reddit

The issue here is that they can sign you up automatically to fight their war, but can’t manage to have automatic voter registration. Do I get disqualified from the potential future draft if I can’t produce my birth certificate? They want that to disqualify me from voting.

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ohnomrbil@reddit

This is a good thing when men can and are prosecuted for failing to register.

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YourGuyK@reddit

I don't think anyone has been prosecuted for this since the mid 80s.

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ARazorbacks@reddit

This is my take. Of all the things this administration could be working on, both big and small, they choose this. When you have an infinite number of things you could work on, you prioritize the things that are most important to you.

These assholes talked about a draft seemingly out of nowhere several weeks back and now this? The draft is on their minds for whatever reason.

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kingofthesofas@reddit

Yeah it is already a law that you have to do it so I am not sure why an automatic system is a big deal TBH.

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bunchedupwalrus@reddit

More than likely they’ll fuck it up in favour of their friends, “mysteriously” conscripting primarily from blue states and “accidentally” failing to register the family of their donors

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Omateido@reddit

Ya, this isn’t about automation, that’s a smokescreen. This is about implementing a system that allows them to control the draft selection process, so they can throw the opposition into meat grinders like Russia is doing in Ukraine.

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werduvfaith@reddit

This automatic registration has nothing to do with the draft selection process, there's no draft and there's not going to be.

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Omateido@reddit

Sure bud.

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werduvfaith@reddit

There is no difference between requiring manual registration and automatic registration.

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JackBlackBowserSlaps@reddit

You’re almost there. Having it be automatic, they won’t “fuck it up”, they’ll doctor it to only include those that they want to send away to die.

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badbash27@reddit

This was also set in motion December of last year. But because no one actually reads the bills they vote on, it's only coming to the surface now

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Fur-Frisbee@reddit

If it's not asking too much,
For our information, just for illustration,
Tell us how you intend to run the nation.

These are the laws of my administration:
No one's allowed to smoke,
Or tell a dirty joke,
And whistling is forbidden.

We're not allowed to tell a dirty joke.
HAIL, HAIL, FREEDONIA

If chewing gum is chewed,
The chewer is pursued,
And in the hoosegow hidden

If we should choose to chew,
We'll be pursued.

If any form of pleasure is exhibited,
Report to me and it will be prohibited.
I'll put my foot down; So shall it be
This is the land of the free.
The last man nearly ruined this place,
He didn't know what to do with it.
If you think this country's bad off now,
Just wait 'till I get through with it.

The treasury is low on dough;
The last man went and flew with it.
If you think we're short of money now
Just wait 'till I get through with it.

The country's taxes must be fixed,
And I know what to do with it,
If you think you're paying too much now,
Just wait 'till I get through with it.

In our midst you stand The ruler of this land,
A man who'll govern with an iron hand.

If anyone gets fresh with me,
I'll show him who's the boss;
I'll stand upon my dignity,
and toss him for a loss.
And this will be the penalty,
For those who doublecross,
We'll stand 'em up against the wall,
and Pop goes the Weasel!

If you should make him cross,
He'll toss you for a loss.
If anyone gets fresh with him,
He'll show him who's the boss.

I will not stand for anything,
That's crooked or unfair;
I'm strictly on the up and up,
So everyone beware.
If anyone's caught taking graft,
And I don't get my share,
We'll stand 'em up against the wall,
And pop goes the weasel!

So everyone beware,
Who's crooked or unfair;
No one must take a bit of graft,
Unless he gets his share.

If any man should come between,
A husband and his bride,
We find out which one she prefers,
By letting her decide.
If she prefers the other man,
The husband steps outside;
We stand him up against the wall,
and Pop goes the Weasel!

The husband steps outside;
Relinquishes his bride;
We stand him up against the wall
And take him for a ride.

The population must increase,
With great rapidity.
We give a couple seven years,
To raise a family.
If, by that time, there is
No branch upon the family tree,
We stand 'em up against the wall,
and Pop goes the Weasel.

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HunterDHunter@reddit

Truth be told we were always required to sign up for the draft. Selective services once you turn 18. This just does it automatically for us.

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Ok_Boysenberry2900@reddit

Yup. I did. Because you are supposed too

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TeamThundercock@reddit

Doesn’t selective service registration, which is already the law,essentially mean the same thing?

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Koraxtheghoul@reddit

Yes, but you can fail to register (illegal) and by age 27 if you failed they don't allow you to do.

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yellowjackethokie@reddit

Automatic registration for the draft.
White House refuses to rule out the draft.
White House refuses to rule out ground troops in Iran.
US Army increases enlistment age to 42; highest since "the surge" in 2006 for the Iraq War.
Are people paying attention to this?

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ARazorbacks@reddit

Complete conspiracy theory incoming…

Combine the draft with personal data - voter rolls, social media posts, who showed up to protests, etc. If you chose to, you could get pretty…uh, picky…about who you draft…

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Head_Leadership_2108@reddit

It would be very stupid to send to war people who are opposed to the regime, they would have a perfect opportunity to sabotage operations and would deflect to the enemy at the first opportunity…

So yeah, that’s probably the plan.

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One-Library-7014@reddit

Minorities and those less wealthy will be disproportionately affected

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Imaginary_Poetry_233@reddit

There has never been a better time for certain illegal immigrants to voluntarily leave, if the know what's good for them.

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taybay462@reddit

They exhibit more American values than our government. Why should they leave?

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femanonette@reddit

If they are illegal immigrants, they can't register dingus.

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ecstaticthicket@reddit

The life of a single “illegal” immigrant is worth more than all of our current government combined

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bunchedupwalrus@reddit

Or a better time for America to stop acting like a coked out high tech confederate

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AnomalyNexus@reddit

Also trump kid getting exempted

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Due_Satisfaction2167@reddit

The draft isn’t the White House’s decision. That’s something Congress has to re-authorize.

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JackBlackBowserSlaps@reddit

Just like starting this war in the first place? 🤔

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Due_Satisfaction2167@reddit

No, Congress delegated that authority quite a long time ago with the War Powers Resolution.

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Girl_gamer__@reddit

Only if newsmax is reporting it

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Hour-Ad-9508@reddit

Paying attention to a whole lot of nothing?

Every male had to register for the draft anyways, this isn’t meaningfully increasing the candidate pool.

The enlistment age should’ve been raised years ago with the progression of healthy habits leading to increased ability to do military jobs later in life.

This isn’t 2006 anymore, large scale warfare will not require large scale infantry units.

I recognize the sub we’re in but relax with the fear mongering

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crowislanddive@reddit

The only consequence for not was ineligibility for federal loans. No one was going to jail for not signing up for selective service.

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yellowjackethokie@reddit

Every male had to register for the draft anyways

Exactly. The inclusion of an automatic registry seems indicative of a priority shift.

This isn’t 2006 anymore, large scale warfare will not require large scale infantry units.

That is exactly what will be required in Iran. It's surrounded in mountains, where the efficacy of aircraft is heavily reduced and mechanized units are rendered almost unusable. Infantry, and lots of it, will be required.

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Due_Satisfaction2167@reddit

The inclusion of an automatic registry seems indicative of a priority shift.

It’s something Congress mandated a while back.

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Hour-Ad-9508@reddit

How is it a priority shift? It was literally already done, this just makes it more efficient. You need to do it to get a drivers license or student loans, every male (with the exception of very few) are already registered. What is the priority change?

If you still think ground troops are going to be deployed in Iran after the past few weeks you need to get out of the conspiracy reddit subs for a bit

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yellowjackethokie@reddit

They're doing it automatically because they're afraid people will stop registering, because of the increasing rhetoric surrounding the draft. It would be illegal for men to not register for selective service...but that doesn't mean people might break the law if they thought it would avoid being drafted.

The past couple of weeks have done nothing, absolutely nothing, but reinforce the likelihood of ground troops being deployed. This war was supposed to be over in four days. It's been 40. Air only campaigns have never worked.

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Hour-Ad-9508@reddit

So people would forgo getting drivers licenses and student financial aid and loans to not chance getting drafted? Again, not happening, and you’re just fear mongering

It’s unbelievable how you keep falling for the “end is nigh!” scare-a-thon. I bet I could find a post from you within the week that fell for Trump’s end of civilization rant too.

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yellowjackethokie@reddit

The same guy who campaigned on "no new wars" just posted about the US military looking forward to their "next conquest". Imagine watching someone go from non-interventionism to military conquest and yet somehow still thinking ground invasion is a bridge too far for them.

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Hour-Ad-9508@reddit

You’re undermining your own argument lol. Trump’s already moving on from Iran with, look, no ground troops.

You also just proved my point about how you’ll be distracted by the next shiny object and/or Trump tweet about the impending disaster. A month from now you’ll be talking about how we’re totally, surely, absolutely going to be using ground troops in Cuba.

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yellowjackethokie@reddit

This won't age well.

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Minimum-Astronaut1@reddit

Ah taking a bet so you can "I told you so" but if you don't win you'll ignore his "I told you so" like he will yours. What an idiotic game to play.

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Hour-Ad-9508@reddit

Lol, yep, that’s what you’ll always say in this sub.

Make sure to stock up on the canned foods

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bunchedupwalrus@reddit

It’s been a pretty accurate sub.

Almost none of the campaign rhetoric has aged well

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Omateido@reddit

You’re unbelievably naive if you think this is being done in the name of efficiency, rather than implementing a system that will allow them to control who is drafted and disproportionately selecting democrats, people of color, etc and throwing the into the meat grinder like Russia is doing in Ukraine. Have you been living under a rock for the last decade? Look at this administration.

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River_City_Rando@reddit

If you cant see the signs, its because you got your hands over your eyes

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Alchia79@reddit

I have an eighteen year old son who is a full time college student. I’m definitely paying attention. I want him to finish his education and live the peaceful life he planned. And no one in my house voted for this, including my Gen Z daughter. I live in a red state, but all of the young adults that I know voted blue. And they did vote.

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CART_Mechanic@reddit

Cool, register them to vote automatically, as well.

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welpWW3isgonnasuck@reddit

They really arent going to be happy with what I do if they force a gun into my hand

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KinkMountainMoney@reddit

I’ve never understood why this didn’t automatically happen. When I turned 18 you were required to do it so why not just register us all automatically. And it’s bullshit that women don’t have to. If they start drafting people, why the hell would we only utilize half the fighter pool??

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manateemunchies@reddit

Because the current administration is actively trying to push women out of the military. They want us barefoot and in the kitchen

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GrillinFool@reddit

Uh, I thought when you turned 18 in the States everyone had to register for the draft. It’s been that way for a few decades.

I’m confused as to why this is a new thing. Am I missing something here?

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LeroyMyBoi@reddit

Yeah its always been a requirement with the penalty (I believe) of fines, possible jail time, and inability to apply for student loans. This really is just automating a process that used to be manual. It's a good thing. People are upset with the current administration (understandably lol) so people look at the headline and freak out.

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GrillinFool@reddit

The people on Reddit site love this contrived outrage.

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FunkyPlunkett@reddit

Cool I turn 43 in March lol

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Socram007@reddit

I ain't no fortunate son 🚁

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Turbulent-Today830@reddit

The REPUBLITARDS would absolutely be losing their minds had a DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT enacted this!

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werduvfaith@reddit

Reinstating selective service registration was done in 1980 at the request of a DEMOCRAT President.

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Turbulent-Today830@reddit

Which was voluntary

Now its mandatory and implemented automatically

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werduvfaith@reddit

Selective Service registration was NEVER voluntary. Its the law with criminal penalties and lifelong consequences for anyone failing to register.

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krissithegirl@reddit

You mean the cuntservatives? Very true.

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TheBackshotWarrior@reddit

This is fear mongering. Automatically being rolled into Selective Service is NOT the same as bringing back the draft…….

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DealerClassic6506@reddit

I thought there was talking about raising the age to be like 42 - was that part of this or not? Lots of comments indicating one way or the other. You were a voice of reason

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mvb827@reddit

Everyone with a driver’s license is already registered though. I was under the impression that enrollment was mandatory.

It’s not a bad thing if leadership is good. Unfortunately our current leadership is not good. Not good at all.

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MephistoHamProducts@reddit

Enrollment is mandatory but there's been no national automated process previously. That said, something like 46 states already do this individually, so it's not a huge change other than Federalizing it and getting those last four states on board.

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zeke10@reddit

Getting sent off to die by a draft dodger to distract people from the fact he's a child rapist.

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wolacouska@reddit

It’s not a distraction lmfao, drafts are the least popular things that exist.

That’s like saying the Epstein files are a distraction from something… no this guy actually just believes in American supremacy, he’s not doing some 10D chess to distract you from something.

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Sudden_Hovercraft_56@reddit

Thank god you didn't vote for Kamala or you would be in endless wars eh....

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wolacouska@reddit

“I miss when we just funded Israel’s genocide instead of helping directly”

You are not a serious person.

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Some_Drink_5375@reddit

mm, I think we're gonna need to speed this up, we're gonna need some cannon fodder before summer

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Due_Satisfaction2167@reddit

It’s automating the registration that men are already legally required to do.

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Holyepicafail@reddit

I dislike the current administration as well, but unless theres underlying stuff this is just a qol improvement for selective service which has been around for 109 years.

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GirlWithWolf@reddit

Same, and if I remember correctly my brother was automatically registered when he turned 18 and had to get his new drivers license.

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Dismal-Manner-9239@reddit

This saves you a trip to the DMV or Secretary of State. This is coming from someone who has to go there on leave and register while already active duty military. This is a giant nothing burger.

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BirdiesAndBrews@reddit

Just a heads up my firewall kicked up an alert when I clicked that link. beware folks.

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DonBoy30@reddit

Sort of tone deaf timing…or not.

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L1FT_K1T@reddit

Damg they might send me to the gulag for being trans if they don’t want me serving lol

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lorihamlit@reddit

As a conscientious objector I was thinking this too. I can see them going as far as rounding up all the ones who won’t serve or they won’t allow to serve.

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