This New Electric Car Nearly Fills Its Battery In Under 9 Minutes The Lynk & Co 10+ goes from 10% to 80% in just over 5 minutes when hooked up to a charger over 1.1 megawatts.
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BaselineUnknown@reddit
A typical US home has a 200-amp, 240-volt service = 48 kW maximum (and that’s your entire house). The Lynk needs 1,100 kW at peak or 23x your entire home’s capacity.
However, the faster EVs can charge publicly, the less home charging even matters. China essentially isbuilding a gas station replacement model.
lumpialarry@reddit
>1.1 megawatt charger.
1.1 megawatts is the power demand for \~800 to 900 American homes.
costafilh0@reddit
Now give it 1000 mile range, and the EV is solved.
Then trickle down to every other model, power, size and capacity.
Done.
hx87@reddit
Apply the same standard to ICE cars.
Oh wait, they all fail.
Back to the drawing board, let's all ride bicycles until we're done.
markeydarkey2@reddit
But why? You'd be carrying around extra battery weight you'd almost never use with less interior room to fit the battery & it would cost more. 500 miles is WAY more than enough.
Interesting thing to say when fossil fuels are notoriously fought over with part of the global economy reliant upon the petrodollar.
boomerangchampion@reddit
Does your car go 1000 miles on a tank and was it made without subsidies or exploitation?
Sarah_hussain09@reddit
Not a single gas car can do 1000 miles. Most a normal sedan or crossover can do is 600-700 with the average around 400-500 at best
Oh_ffs_seriously@reddit
Just to be contrarian, the world record is over 1,700 miles in a stock Skoda, average of 50 mph.
Twombls@reddit
You would hate to learn about the petroleum industry my guy
Patient_Bet4635@reddit
Extremely excessive.
400 miles gets you 99.9% coverage of use cases. Chinese manufacturers are profitable, Chinese labour is 10% more expensive than Mexican labour which is what western manufacturers use.
ferdiazgonzalez@reddit
But but but these Chinese stole our tech. They only do knock offs
/s
MotelSans17@reddit
That's how the Japanese started too. They made our stuff for cheaper, then eventually made it better.
Remember that joke in Back to the future when 1955's Doc laughs when seeing some chip in the car was made in Japan, then Marty tells him all the best stuff is made in Japan. That's what happening again.
American car manufacturers lost a lot of relevancy when Japanese manufacturers showed up during the oil crisis of 1973, and showed them that yes it could be done. Same thing is happening in real time and they still haven't learned their lesson.
Quantos@reddit
The lesson they learned from it is that instead of pushing themselves for innovation and being on the cutting edge, it's far, far easier to push for laws that prevent better foreign vehicles from being viable or sold in the US at all.
MotelSans17@reddit
All the while investing into PR campaigns to convince people this is good for them. Many Americans will gladly purchase and use an inferior product if you convince them it's the patriotic thing to do. It's like standing behind your local sports team even when they lose over and over.
Alive_Internet@reddit
You laugh, but nobody on Reddit can confirm or deny this. This tech could well be American IP from from an unreleased American EV.
Logitech4873@reddit
Come on lmao.
LionTigerWings@reddit
Is it really hard to believe that chinese EV companies used Americas headstart as a stepping stone and then surpassed other worldwide EV's? They having a thriving electric car market so the incentive is there for them to innovate.
BattlePrune@reddit
As an illustration: all the cope replies in this thread
MightBeYourDad_@reddit
And what power grid could support this?
ApprehensiveSize7662@reddit (OP)
The chargers have batteries.
MightBeYourDad_@reddit
So under high demand its unusable
Logitech4873@reddit
No.
ApprehensiveSize7662@reddit (OP)
You don't know how batteries work?
MightBeYourDad_@reddit
If the grid is charging the batteries slower than they are charging the cars, they will eventually run out
ApprehensiveSize7662@reddit (OP)
If the batteries are much bigger than the ones in the car they can charge a lot of cars. I believe the byd storage is enough for 20 cars.
MightBeYourDad_@reddit
So if it was commonly use like a petrol station it'd quickly run out
ApprehensiveSize7662@reddit (OP)
No. The company making 3 million batteries a year would simply add more batteries.
JC-Dude@reddit
Simply adding more batteries significantly increases the cost of building such charging stations.
ApprehensiveSize7662@reddit (OP)
Yes and? That's a bit like saying "simply building a charging network for their cars significantly increases their expenses."
They obviously want a functional 1.5mw charging network. They obviously know the costs of that network and what the expected demand increases will be. They obviously want that network to run on grid storage.
JC-Dude@reddit
Right, because never in the history of humanity has a corporation got something wrong.
ApprehensiveSize7662@reddit (OP)
What the fuck sort of take is that? Jesus.
caxer30968@reddit
Shut up retard
verdegrrl@reddit
Civility is required
ApprehensiveSize7662@reddit (OP)
That wasn’t very nice was it?
ApprehensiveSize7662@reddit (OP)
You okay bro?
caxer30968@reddit
Bro for real, how dumb can you be? Every comment here feels like I’m reading some beyond brain dead paid shill.
ApprehensiveSize7662@reddit (OP)
Irony.
-Suzuka-@reddit
Probably still not fast enough for some people...
Clover-kun@reddit
"I'll buy an EV when you can recharge it from 0-100 in 30 seconds and go 1000 miles in a snow storm!"
/s
bigloser42@reddit
If I can’t drive from NYC to LA on a 50% charge towing a 20’ trailer in a -40F blizzard I’m not at all interested.
DetroitLionsEh@reddit
They probably have a different life and requirements compared to you 🤷♂️
Clover-kun@reddit
Not even long haul truckers are driving anywhere close to that many miles in a day. Please tell me who on earth would need that kind of range?
DetroitLionsEh@reddit
People who live in winter climates that use their vehicle for road trips
one_five_one@reddit
It’s the charger that’s impressive, not the car.
elremeithi@reddit
Kaboom?
dont-YOLO-ragequit@reddit
Usually it's one part that breaks and it costs half the car to need replacement.
elremeithi@reddit
Bravo!
dumahim@reddit
Pretty soon these chargers are going to be able to power a time machine.
JC-Dude@reddit
816 km CLTC in a sedan with a 100 kWh battery is not great. Seems like these very high charging speeds have a big impact on energy density and/or efficiency, because BYD's tech has the same problem. Tbh I'd rather have more range with like a 300-400kW peak charging speed than this if that's the necessary trade off.
Sarah_hussain09@reddit
Usually battery charging peak speeds grows almost linearly with battery size increase.
In other words a 200kwh battery or whatever would charge in the same time with enough current supplied.
They stick with batteries in that size category because that is plenty of range for most people outside America.
Patient_Bet4635@reddit
100kwh is A LOT of battery is the point with seemingly very limited range
JC-Dude@reddit
What you're talking about is the C rate, which in the case of this and the BYD tech are very high. 1000+kW in 100-120kWh packs translates to 10-12C peak, which is very high compared to something like sub-4C in the BMW Neue Klasse, which have 114 kWh packs that charge at a peak of 400kW, BUT it looks like whatever's required to achieve such high charging speeds seems to have a big negative effect on the overall efficiency of the car, as those range numbers are very low for the combination of car class/body type and battery pack size.
ryzenguy111@reddit
The denza z9 that just got revealed for europe has the same fate, 123kwh battery for only 600km wltp range
JC-Dude@reddit
Yeah, that's the BYD car I was referring to. Terrible range for the pack size and a non-SUV body.
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
They wouldn't bring this tech and make it in America, I can sure that....
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