Artemis II launch from airplane
Posted by mencival@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 139 comments
New amazing angle
Posted by mencival@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 139 comments
New amazing angle
coiniver@reddit
Howdy!
1_800_UNICORN@reddit
I love NASA, but their media team needs to talk to the Red Bull marketing people or something. I have been super excited for this mission because we get to explore the moon in a time when we have much better access to small, high definition cameras - I thought the content would be on point, but it’s been pretty lackluster. This video is a perfect example - why wasn’t a camera angle like this part of the launch broadcast?
FlyingMaxFr@reddit
You can watch EverydayAstronaut replay of the launch with Hi-Fi and slow-mo as well, it's excellent quality footage.
crewsctrl@reddit
NASA's budget has often been cut over the year, but nothing like this administration has done. They barely still have a media team on the payroll.
gefahr@reddit
Private film companies would have been happy to film it from better angles just for the publicity if NASA reached out. Think about all the RED-sponsored footage we see. No one expected it to be this bad.
crewsctrl@reddit
Check out USLaunchReport on YouTube.
dratbrat@reddit
Which video(s)?
under_psychoanalyzer@reddit
I don't know that just sounds like it would make me sad.b
richardlqueso@reddit
THIS.
under_psychoanalyzer@reddit
You can't just let a film company walk into NASA. Someone on the media affairs team has facilitate a contract, even if it's no cost to the government, that would let a private company do this. Determine all the rights etc. then someone would have to walk them through the space where they would set up and make sure they followed a bunch of guidelines.
In short if they had a fully staffed team of people that could facilitate a private company doing the filming, then they wouldn't need to pawn it off to a private company.
How you vote matters folks.
gefahr@reddit
They wouldn't have even needed to be on NASA property.
A film helicopter, a crew on the Cape where the observers are. No NASA interaction, much less permission, required.
You're right about everything you said, but that's self-inflicted red tape.
under_psychoanalyzer@reddit
Well if it wasn't needed anybody could have done it, so why didn't they?
Operating an air craft near the launch location is a whole other set of red tape.
gefahr@reddit
I said why upthread: no one expected them to fumble it this way, we took for granted what SpaceX does with an infinitely larger budget.
under_psychoanalyzer@reddit
Yeah and before that pilot woke up this morning how many people do you think had discussed his flight path for the day? Be for real dude.
qdp@reddit
Maybe Red Bull will sponsor them. Just slap their logo on the side.
0oodruidoo0@reddit
The astronauts popping a tab on a 'Bull and getting the sticky juice everywhere
Phonixrmf@reddit
I wonder if Red Bull has something that Monster has: tour water; plain water in a Monster can
imaguitarhero24@reddit
I haven't even heard that about monster but have definitely heard it about Red Bull so definitely.
Te_Luftwaffle@reddit
That would explain how someone could chug a Red Bull and then ski down a a vertical slope
savageotter@reddit
If we do more moon missions I'm completely cool with corporate sponsorships all over the thing.
Treinrukker@reddit
Hiring a media team would've been the cheapest part of the whole mission.
clunky-glunky@reddit
Here you can download the full res, 8K , 240 frames per second, 12 GB, taken from a NASA jet. There are also a bunch of seriously cool launch videos, clean and stabilized
Dr_Circe@reddit
This was such great footage, thanks for sharing the link!
ABoutDeSouffle@reddit
Maybe one of the US's billionaires could chip in.
0xe1e10d68@reddit
After they've been lobbying to cut taxes and govt funding? I fear they might not
wggn@reddit
i wonder who keeps cutting nasa's budget
sevaiper@reddit
At least we know we'll have great camera views of the landing on Starship
Plane-Sale-6831@reddit
I’d have been so pumped for the rest of the flight.
I wonder at what point did they know they were going to see the launch. Imagine just glancing out the window and realising that’s what you were seeing!
tasermyface@reddit
Luv it how some chick is doin her make up like its the normal shieet.
Torchy1014@reddit
Jesus Christ just stay zoomed out 🤬
historynerd87@reddit
Leave it to Spirit to not announce the launch of an actual honest to god moon mission.
ObamaTookMyPun@reddit
Spirit will probably charge everyone a rocket-viewing add-on.
igotthecheesesweats@reddit
For real, same with the other clips of people filming the launch from space.
The first time I flew on a plane it was from Chicago to LA and the pilot announced when we were over the Grand Canyon and even banked the plane so our side of the plane could get a better look. It was awesome, as a kid I was super pumped.
Was that just a thing pilots did back in the day? I haven't had that happen since I was a kid in the 90s.
Adequate_Lizard@reddit
I saw a reel where the pilot was super excited over seeing the launch and announced it.
igotthecheesesweats@reddit
Oh, that's cool, I didn't see that. I'll look it up.
bunsinh@reddit
Imagine the people whose seats are on the other side 😭
mysteryofthefieryeye@reddit
Pilot was kind enough to do a barrel roll, everyone got to see!
MikeW226@reddit
Fun to remember how pinned back in their seats the astronauts are on liftoff. Looks like they hit the airplane's altitude in 30 or 40 seconds. Climbing that high in that short an amount of time? Talking several G's pinned into their seats.
mencival@reddit (OP)
Waiting for the comment to tell us exactly how many Gs :)
LupineChemist@reddit
Didn't do the timing but going from 0 to 10km altitude in 35 seconds would be just under 2g, but then you have to add the 1g they are feeling from gravity so yeah, around 3g force on the body. And yeah, a fighter pilot or something can do a lot more over a few seconds, but 3g for minutes is a hell of a load on the body.
Omniwar@reddit
The acceleration at the moment of launch isn't actually that crazy because the fuel weighs so much and the vehicle is fighting the atmosphere. I wasn't able to quickly find the equivalent for SLS, but you can see the acceleration profile for the Space Shuttle in this plot:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Longitudinal-acceleration-in-US-Discovery-space-shuttle-in-STS-121-mission_fig3_342851251
It's really not that crazy until the last minute or two before main engine cutoff. I've heard the more uncomfortable thing is the shaking from the solid rocket boosters.
CptSandbag73@reddit
Seems like you’re pretty close, NASA says the max at any time for the crew will be 4g.
I’ve done up to 7 for short periods, with a G-suit, and it wasn’t too bad. Of course the suit helps a good amount. But you’re also dealing with having to control the aircraft physically so the seating position isn’t ideal at all, plus there’s also more abrupt changes of g-onset especially if you aren’t perfectly smooth on the controls.
3-4 steady Gs, with gradual onsets, in the optimal reclined g-posture (we tolerate Gs excellently when forces are perpendicular to the spine) is very manageable. It would definitely be noticeable and a little taxing on the body.
The Mercury astronauts experienced up to 8 Gs on launch and Alan Shepard experienced almost 12 G on re-entry, but to my knowledge they were wearing G-suits because they expected the higher forces.
LupineChemist@reddit
Honestly, looking back at that....2g going "up" is absolutely nutso.
That's accelerating upward twice as fast as an object would fall to earth without any air resistance. It's hard to comprehend seeing things at that scale just what that means.
CptSandbag73@reddit
That’s definitely a lot of power for something that weighs almost 6 million lbs.
ickysock@reddit
crazy they were allowed to fly that close! I would've thought there would be a wide exclusion zone around the launchpad/projected flight path during the launch window
Wandering__Bear__@reddit
There is a restricted zone with a 40 nautical mile (46 mile) radius during the launch. The plane is at least that far away.
Wandering__Bear__@reddit
I was wrong. Air traffic control can clear aircraft through a TFR and this flight was cleared. Must be because the rocket immediately makes an eastward trajectory. It was pretty close!
ThePrussianGrippe@reddit
I wonder how close a plane could get such that the engine sounds are audible in the cabin over their engine sounds without being so close that the plane is damaged by the force.
eleask@reddit
As SLS makes 120 dB at 3 miles distance, and that inside an airplane you have 85 dB during cruise, the distance is kinda there. It would be audible (distinctly so, as human ears can sense a difference of 3 dB) even considering cabin sound absorption.
3 miles is the distance of the viewing platform, probably you can place the plane even closer without damage.
Tybo929@reddit
Those lucky mfers.
cyberdork@reddit
... on the left side of the plane. I'm sure if I was on the flight I would have gotten a window seat on the right.
immunotransplant@reddit
Seems unwise. If the rocket goes off course or has catastrophic failure …. Defeats the whole purpose of the TFR.
flanintheface@reddit
If it goes off course - capsule would separate and rocket would be blown up. All rockets launched from US must have autonomous flight termination system.
Interestingly Russians do not bother with AFTS... If it goes - it goes.
Illustrious-Run3591@reddit
It wasn't an accident, space missions are great PR when ur doing wars
Beginning_Annual5816@reddit
Yeah I was thinking the same, The debris field would be massive during a catastrophic incident, I would hate to be on a spirit flight getting pelted with debris
Aarxnw@reddit
Filmed on Google Pixel 10 Pro!
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
That’s not actually close. They’re 40 or 50 miles away. And the rocket is going on the other direction.
mencival@reddit (OP)
Crazy that there is a comment on another sub saying this video cannot be real for this reason.
kirajoana23@reddit
pretty astounding how fast it’s going, apparently only takes 25-30 seconds to reach the altitude of the plane.
RedditPoster05@reddit
Yeah, does it hurt going that high so fast?
CptSandbag73@reddit
No. The max g-force on launch is 4g, which is very tolerable with minimal training, especially when in the optimal sitting position (basically reclined on your back).
I’ve flown up to 7g and it’s never panful, just requires focus and proper breathing and muscle clenching technique to not start to experience greying out of vision or loss of consciousness. Another factor is to avoid abrupt onset of Gs, which the astronauts shouldn’t have a problem with. I wore a G-suit but people can handle Gs without them just fine, like the Blue Angels pilots.
The other factor you may be thinking of is pressurization changes, but the maximum cabin altitude of the Orion will be about 8000’ feet, which will give about a 12 psi difference between the inside and outside of the capsule when in a vacuum. The change from sea level to that altitude is 8000’ feet and just over 2psi, but the automatic pressurization systems of aircraft and spacecraft are set up in a way to make that change gradually for occupant safety. It wouldn’t increase to that altitude as fast as the actual spacecraft climbed to 8000 feet, as that would indeed be very uncomfortable.
Besides those considerations, nothing else about rapid altitude or velocity changes would be painful, as the occupants are not exposed to any forces besides internal acceleration and pressurization changes.
RedditPoster05@reddit
I would just think going up that high so quickly it would make you sick or cause some ear pain
CptSandbag73@reddit
Yeah basically the ear pain wouldn’t be an issue for the same reason it’s not an issue in a commercial airplane. The more technical explanation would be the way I said it in the previous comment.
I think certain individuals could get motion sickness or vertigo, but not astronauts/test pilots who already trained in high gravity and zero gravity. On the other hand, the launch’s motion is pretty much in one steady motion, not like a plane doing aerobatics. So I think the average person probably wouldn’t get too sick unless they were specifically sensitive.
EvenMoreCoconuts@reddit
Yeah that’s what struck me too. I guess that’s the power of having much of your thrust directed perpendicular to the surface of the Earth, plus the insane amount of thrust.
Tenzipper@reddit
8000 gallons of liquid hydrogen/LOX through the main engines and 24000 pounds of solid propellant burned in the boosters.
Per second.
It's literally a huge, slow explosion.
Fucking terrifying, and I'd go in a heartbeat.
imaguitarhero24@reddit
Yeah pumping that much fuel through the pipes is its own major challenge in a laundry list of challenges to make rockets so powerful and efficient. A rocket hits every part of engineering at its absolute maximum. Fluid dynamics, thermodynamics, structural mechanics, dynamics, computer processing and control, radio communication, materials engineering, chemistry. And they all have to work together flawlessly to fling something at the actual fucking moon. Rocket science man. It's beautiful.
LupineChemist@reddit
It's not even a slow explosion. It's a huge, very fast and continuous explosion that is just controlled.
Tenzipper@reddit
Solid rocket fuel burns as a deflagration, and not a detonation.
In relative terms, it's slow.
LupineChemist@reddit
Well, that's getting into splitting hairs into what an explosion is.
Also, this is liquid fuel. Weirdly, I'd tend to put solid fuel more on the "explosive" side of thing because it's self-oxidizing while the liquid fuel is fed a separate supply of liquid oxygen.
But as "explosion" is just a colloquial term in the first place, most people would classify a giant fireball as one. I also maintain it's pretty fast just by the sheer amount of energy being throwing in there.
Tenzipper@reddit
I was speaking mostly of the solid boosters, as that's where most of the thrust comes from.
EvenMoreCoconuts@reddit
That’s insane. It’s amazing what we can accomplish when we put our minds together and stop being dicks to each other. I only wish we could drop our tribalist impulses, greed, and lust for power more easily.
LupineChemist@reddit
Yeah, this is the angle that really got me to internalize just how powerful that rocket is.
Like I "know" it but never really felt it until I saw just how insane that acceleration is. And then considering it takes like 5 seconds just to clear the tower or something, once it's off, it's really off to the races.
Helpinmontana@reddit
I'm just waiting for a cellphone shot from an artemis astronaut to be like "Commercial airliner seen from space rocket"
ItsKindaTricky@reddit
That would be soo cool. Too bad the capsule is completely enclosed under the fairing. They didn't get to see anything
benjecto@reddit
Mods will delete it.
SatanicBiscuit@reddit
do they happen to moderate airliners.net too?
damnthatwtf@reddit
Yeah it is too blurry, jittery And not properly zoomed in.
nsgiad@reddit
I understood this reference
RedditPoster05@reddit
Feet in the footage
damnthatwtf@reddit
Everybody loves feets in the air.
ThePrussianGrippe@reddit
“Wow they’re going so slow! It’s like they’re frozen in air.”
qdp@reddit
And the othet crew saying “Oh my gaaaawd. I can see it!”
smarmageddon@reddit
Still far superior to NASA's coverage of the launch.
Adequate_Lizard@reddit
Crazy how bad the coverage is when your budget is constantly getting cut to give to Elon Musk and Peter Thiel.
dawtips@reddit
1000% I heard this plane overhead and turned my head to look at it just as Artemis II ignited which meant I missed the first second of liftoff 😢
StuckinSuFu@reddit
Like the eclipse flights - I wish commercial airlines sold flights JUST for this kind of thing.
RepeatEuphoric@reddit
First time a video on a spirit air flight is not of a brawl on the inside.
Habit_West@reddit
can artemis think she can really kill a titan or it is dream of artemis?
Tall_Signature_7987@reddit
Amazing footage, almost as good as spacex drone shots
Phonixrmf@reddit
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WeMalak@reddit
I took this picture from central Florida, Green was Artemis rocket, the plane where this video was taken from must be Red!
mrbritchicago@reddit
Sorry, but that is not green. It is objectively blue. Teal maybe?
xxsidoxx@reddit
Are you colorblind? There's objectively more green than blue in the color.
strumthebuilding@reddit
r/linguistics would like a word
DarkwingDuckHunt@reddit
what a fucking time to be alive
Thud@reddit
Green is also an airplane.
mencival@reddit (OP)
Great find. Fits r/ tworedditorsonecup sub
SkiFreeCO69@reddit
Wild connection between your pic, their video, and Reddit. More like an Artemake.
SkiFreeCO69@reddit
Plane green Artemis red
Helpinmontana@reddit
Well, the plane is obviously yellow, but still......
nofunatall_17@reddit
Surprised Spirit didn’t charge extra for the show
CalligrapherIcy3779@reddit
bro spirite offered passengers for thr artemis ll launch show fee🥀🥀🥀🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂🛂
FM2P4@reddit
Lucky they weren't flying on a 787, because they wouldn't have been able to see anything then
bojackworseman@reddit
do people just pretend to care?
WinFar4030@reddit
Cool
jawshoeaw@reddit
Coulda sworn they launched from the ground.
Puissance000@reddit
Awesome 😎
danit0ba94@reddit
I appreciate this video.
It really puts in a perspective the sheer distances, and times for travel, needed to cover, just to make it to Low Earth Orbit.
Let Alone where that capsule is going!
BC_Interior@reddit
It's crazy to think how fast theyre moving.
corbantd@reddit
No no. It is launching from the ground.
ManInTheBox2421@reddit
All the people on that side of the plane were charged a Spirit $20 "Entertainment" fee upon landing.
Alexius6th@reddit
I wish someone would edit this with the Cid Highwind theme from Final Fantasy 7
crooks4hire@reddit
Never thought of this, but I wonder what things look like from the shadow of the rocket plume lol.
mencival@reddit (OP)
I am more interested in looking at people filming booster separation
xChoke1x@reddit
Someone please send this to CC Chris from Westchester County so we can watch his head explode. Lol
Acapellaremodler@reddit
Howdy
ThaddeusJP@reddit
A RARE case of VERTICAL filming being the better option
shityplumber@reddit
if there was ever a praise the camera man post this is the one.
Micesmoi@reddit
Probably the most badass angle of all.
JKKIDD231@reddit
Everyone, this video has better quality than NASA launch cam
inisr@reddit
That little thing going to go to the Moon!?😂👌
Dry_Inflation_861@reddit
That is incredible
onethousandmonkey@reddit
“You think you flying high? Here. Oh you think you’re going fast? Here.”
They should’ve called ATC for a speed check like that Blackbird pilot did.
PengPenguin888@reddit
Imagine if that rocket trajectory fucked up and came right towards the plane!
mencival@reddit (OP)
If the OC was Gerard Butler
lettucefly@reddit
You just know those pilots were absolutely geekin’
DerFreudster@reddit
The one time on this sub I'll praise portrait orientation!
CA2DC99@reddit
That is seriously cool!! Thanks for sharing!
Category-Additional@reddit
I didn’t see the launch but I saw it climbing from Jacksonville, I got a news notification about the launch so I looked south while driving and I was so excited to see it I almost pulled over on the highway 😂
bruinsbabe_@reddit
this is sick
rayisontheprowl@reddit
Great get!!!!
_Baphomet_@reddit
Howdy
Maldivesblue@reddit
Super cool.
Youregoingtodiealone@reddit
Fuck Yeah
10MirrororriM01@reddit
I’m going to get your gloves
InTheDeepestOcean@reddit
I know I’m going to get your gloves.
Actual-Economy-9032@reddit
Crazy that there are human beings like me and you flying straight up in that, imagine what is going through their minds
CousinEddysMotorHome@reddit
God Bless America.
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