Is the 5070ti worth the extra 200 euro over the 9070xt?
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Powerful-Ad2869@reddit
Whatever the 5070ti has that is better than the 9070XT, IS NOT WORTH 200$ MORE!
skipv5@reddit
Is it worth the extra $200, probably not. Is it the better GPU, absolutely.
pesa44@reddit
I disagree. It's better only for content creators or Nvidia fanboys. Otherwise gaming performance is on par, FSR 4 is as good as DLLS for normal gamer. Framegen is not usable, imho, on Nvidia or AMD, as far as I have experienced it. Also there is no point paying more for expensive models of GPUs from different manufacturers to get barely 5% performance uplift.
Any-Literature-7834@reddit
"Is it the better GPU, absolutely."
"I disagree. It's slighty better."
GoldenHo-Oh@reddit
The 5070 Ti is faster in 90% of the games, DLSS is far superior to FSR (check the comparisons), Ray Tracing is much better due to the RTX cores, you’ll get way longer software support and it draws less power. You’ll also get ray reconstruction and frame gen (which is pretty good, i personally just don’t use it)
People saying that the 9070XT is better in pure raster is also not true; the reviews and comparisons don’t lie. Is it a great card? Yes, absolutely. People have to make up for themselves if those extra’s are worth 150-200 dollar/euro more
pesa44@reddit
No, I still disagree. As far as I tested both card their on par in 90% situations. In other scenarios one or the other wins. RR is slightly better on Nvidia, but AMD has ray regeneration that is, imho, similarly good. If you nitpick, you'll find difference, but during gameplay 99% people won't notice. And 90% of people won't even turn this on, cause of the massive performance drop. Framegen is also on AMD, so I don't understand your point there. It's as bad as on AMD. I can't use it, it just spoils the experience. RT performance is measurably better than (15-25%) on 9070 XT. Raw performance is on par, that's just simple as that. I don't know where did you get that 5070ti's raw performance is better, that's simply not true. Check benchmark and reviews, or review it yourself like myself. I returned my 5070ti cause imho it was not at all worth the 60% money premium compared to 9070 xt, in my country.
Powerful-Ad2869@reddit
The 5070ti is definitely faster no doubt, but the gap between them is so small its not worth it to the point where i would personally not even pay for the 5070ti even if their price gap was only 100$(sue me). The 200$ difference doenst justify the 5070ti “being better”.
Any-Literature-7834@reddit
no
Particular-Abroad815@reddit
Really depends on what you want and your budget. If you have other things you may wanna buy, get the 9070xt. Otherwise, get the 5070ti. Although the 9070xt has better raw performance, the 5070ti has nvidia features. I have the 5070ti and really like it. Overclock it and its very close to the 5080.
godlyuniverse1@reddit
the comment of the overclock to get close to 5080 also applies to the 5080 so doesnt make much difference
Particular-Abroad815@reddit
Not my point. The 5080 is labeled a "4k GPU". I'm trying to say the 5070ti can get close to stock 5080. Really not that deep
Popeychops@reddit
Not for gaming. 9070 XT is the king of 1440p value right now.
Sonkinha@reddit
Actually have the same dilema. Problem is AMD software vs Nvidia software.
Yuki-kouhai@reddit
In my experience my 6950xt has had much less drivers issues than my old 2080ti, especially when talking about Linux support, but even on windows adrenalin is much more user friendly than the Nvidia app,
Lizst_@reddit
True this. I had 6900 XT and there were fewer issues when I had my 3080 Ti.
Euphoric-Listen-6508@reddit
no
Low_Youth_6505@reddit
Only for the bettee ray tracing on some aaa games
Puzzleheaded-West159@reddit
even the 9070 is comparable to the 5070ti for 1440p gaming, so hell no
lamp7777@reddit
I would not trade my 5070 Ti for a 9070 XT for 200€. DLSS, MFG, VSR, RT/PT, Reflex - they are far more convenient to use and customize, work better and have more support in general than Radeon equivalents if they exist at all. I use them all the time these days. If I were sure I didn't want these features, 9070 XT would be great.
kadendurrbie@reddit
Fanboy copium at its finest
WhoDrankTheRedRum@reddit
Yea I scrolled through the comments and its just "No way, 9070 XT is the best for gaming" etc. with no mention of the pros & cons.
Hopefully OP is doing more research vs relying Soley on Reddit advice.
I'm currently playing through Resident Evil Requiem with Path tracing enabled and it looks fantastic; Path tracing isn't an option in Requiem for AMD GPUs due to the severe performance hit, hopefully OP is aware of little details like this.
Jesuisunetchoin@reddit
Is dlss worth 200€ more ? Rn no, in a couple of years you will be glad to have spent those 200€
TechnoGMNG589@reddit
100 yes easily.
200 only if you need it specifically for specified purposes.
R3KTMYRAMPAGE@reddit
Idk about 100 man
nesnalica@reddit
100 is the difference between models.
u can get a more expensive 9070XT which then costs as much as the cheapest 5070Ti models. thats the 100 difference
oSyphon@reddit
Yeah but my 9070xt gigabyte OC outperformed my 5070 ti pny
Funny-Carob-4572@reddit
Not in the UK
It's a good 200 difference
zagblorg@reddit
Was about £150 when I got mine, which didn't seem worth it. But I'm old won't use DLSS or Framegen anyway.
nesnalica@reddit
it all depends on the model. the cheapest 5070Ti i can find right now is like 760pounds. the cheapest 9070XT is 600-650pounids
and there are 9070XT models which cost around 700pounds.
not that any of those prices are good. especially not for the 5070Ti which has models breaking 1000 pounds mark which is basically more than 1000 euros for a fucking 5070Ti.
https://pricespy.co.uk/search?lowest-price=500-1000&query=5070+Ti&sort=lowest-price-ascending
https://pricespy.co.uk/search?lowest-price=400-1000&query=9070+XT&sort=lowest-price-ascending
zagblorg@reddit
Powercolor Reaper 9070XT is £589, £725 for the Palit 5070Ti, so £135 difference. Might have got a 5070Ti if they were that cheap when I was buying but alas they were not.
iridescent_herb@reddit
the 9070xt can be much cheaper, i got mine, new at 530. want one? i want to swtich to 5070ti lol
Funny-Carob-4572@reddit
Got my 9070xt for under 569 from ocuk , they go on sale quite often.
5070tis seem to be 800 plus, the pricespy link for it doesn't work for me
5070ti is 800
Posraman@reddit
Yes 100% it is.
DLSS is miles ahead of FSR. Trust me dude, you will not regret it.
Nightlower@reddit
it has better path tracing performance, DLSS is also improving fast and with version 5 it might leave 9070xt in dust for few months until AMD comes up with their own improved FSR. Also 5070ti will keep getting software support with every generation while we can't know for certain with AMD. They practically locked out last two gens out of FSR4 lol
HayesBrewery@reddit
Probably not at this point.
If you really want the latest NVIDIA driver goodies, DLSS4.0/4.5/5.0 and framegen you'll need a 5000 series card
But honestly after that stuff lol
Gimrain@reddit
Yes
ghostsilver@reddit
SInce GPU prices are constantly changing, I'd say the 5070Ti is worth about 15 to 20% more. So if you can buy a 9070XT for 700$, then a 5070Ti at 850$ is still worth it.
hawaiian-organ-donor@reddit
If you’re only gonna use your pc for gaming in 1440p, stick with the 9070xt.
Wise-Log-2897@reddit
If it's pure gaming then I don't think so. 5070ti is a bit faster in raster but not 200$ faster, tho even at 1440 I'd use dlss quality and then yeah it's worth the extra 200.
CaptMcMooney@reddit
1440p you're gonna get stupid framerates from either card, doesn't matter. looking at bench, they are within a hair of each other, i'd save my money.
Sorry-Analysis-860@reddit
Absolutly not - at the current pricepoint the 5070 Ti is an absolute joke.
Eddytion@reddit
If you value RT, PT, Upscaling quality and future tech, worth it. If you only play CSGO, Valorant and other competitive games then no, grab the 9070XT. Maybe just me but I would do it if you can easily afford it and the extra 200€ wont change your life in a meaningful way. After the 5070 Ti you can literally forget to upgrade for years to come at that resolution.
blackops_kakashi@reddit
Absolutely not
stimulatedthought@reddit
It is worth the extra $200 if you plan to do local AI inference with tools such as ComfyUI. ROCm support is getting better but still way behind CUDA. Otherwise for gaming, definitely not worth it.
nawry222@reddit
Yes it’s worth it, GPUs are something u buy every few years so i dont mind the up charge given the superior software . And nvidia is always first when it comes to new technology
achimjj@reddit
Yes.
Buzga98@reddit
Not a single situation in which 200 more is justified for at best 5% better fps, and in some games even less fps
PumpkinEater6000@reddit
Not at all. Maximum I would pay for is £700, even then that is idiotically expensive, MSRP is around $800 which is £600.
I would personally go for 9070xt.
GoforIt7721@reddit
Yes because should you sell, your net loss will be lower
Key_Weather5706@reddit
Its only more expensive bec of nvidia. Its not 200 dollars better xD but if u want nvidia festures you need to pay it
No-Finger-9805@reddit
is very expensive to buy it now
Middle_Yesterday_448@reddit
For gaming no. For rendering yes
Mufffaa@reddit
I was considering the same thing, im trying to sell my 3080 on and then buy a 9070XT or a 5070/ti
I have a 5600x CPU w/ 32GB DDR4, gaming at 4K on some AAA titles like Arc Raiders. The upgrade to a 9070xt would cost me about 200 and the 5070 about 300
9070XT seems better value to me, but I havent had an AMD GPU before
AnOrdinaryChullo@reddit
If you are gaming at 4k, 5070Ti is the only real option for you here as you will 100% be using DLSS and Framegen which are way better than anything AMD managed to cookup software side.
Onemoreuserdoesnot@reddit
For your cpu, because it's a bit older, it's better to pair with the amd gpu because of driver and cpu overhead being lower on the red side. It's not a big difference, but it does matter. On another note, though, seems like you're grouping the normal 5070 and the TI as options, from the use of bar in the first line, and like, theyre FAIRLY different in performance. If you're considering the vanilla one, though, you may also look with a favorable eye to the vanilla 9070, if the price is right. As your purpose is gaming at 4k, stay withing 9070, 9070XT and 5070TI, and you're gold. Vanilla 5070 is kinda meh FOR 4k because of the 12GB of vram. 5070TI would be the golden standard, but can be a little or somewhat limited by your current cpu ( although even a in platform upgrade would solve this, it comes with a cost ), 9070XT would be the best thing for your current kit, even if the cpu also hurt it a little, it will hurt less and be very close in most things to the 5070TI ( the caveat will be a weaker software kit ). Vanilla 9070 would be the one to be the best fit, but it is, for sure, the weakest of the 3, with the same caveat of the XT. Which one you should buy depends on how much you're paying on it, and if you feel that the price difference is fair for what it does, and the only one who can answer this is you. Watch some comparison videos, look through prices and look for the performance on the specific softwares that you want or need to use.
Top-Appointment8843@reddit
AMD only wins at raw performance, everything else NVIDIA is better at. I would get the 5070 TI, Nvidias DLSS will always be better and be more future proof.
the_TIGEEER@reddit
For Gaming? Probabbly not. It's good to have a powerful machine, but lets be honest. You will run most games and you'll forget about your specs and fps in 2 months time. That 200€ is half way to a VR headset or can go into manny steam games.
The Nvdis GPU's are super worth it for AI training that's why they are so inflated.
dibs_w_rashi@reddit
i wouldnt and i didnt, as i went with 9070xt - gaming on 1440p widescreen (somewhere between 4k and 1440p)
RedDawnRises@reddit
I know I got myself a 5070ti and never looked back. I seen quite a bit of people having problems with amd drivers.
Ok-Use-8592@reddit
No, at most I'd pay an extra 50 bucks for the fake frames
postsshortcomments@reddit
This era lets you carry a system with a real cheap CPU. In fact, I'd consider the 3600 still mostly viable with something like a 4070 Ti Super (it was on sale for like $550). Optimal and capable of its full power? No, not in CPU bound titles but it doesn't need to be with a 144hz monitor in a GPU-bound market. It's still a good 1440p build and more capable than a cheap GPU.
It's a strange, very situational thing, but if you're carrying a borderline CPU like a 3600/8400F/i5-9600k/5500/10400F and plan to throw in something like an 8400F/7600x/9600x down the line and ride it I think it's a totally viable path. On the same note, at 200 Euros probably not (you could probably throw in something like a DDR4 14600k for $300 if you already have the RAM). As someone who has done it.. I'd probably value it as high as $100-$125 USD with the current RAM shortages. Mainly if I was super budget-restricted and force to make a choice between a powerhouse GPU on a dead platform that can carry my existing bad CPU for a couple years or choosing a lower-mid GPU like a 5060 & a 5700X/5800x/5900x/5950X.
Mostly, I'd consider it a budget-restricted thing. Otherwise, it might come in handy to extend a CPU's life by a couple years down the line. I'd probably always pick the GPU > CPU if I were on any
Obviously, frame generation does lead to a slightly worse experience, isn't a guarantee in every title, and is non-optimal.. But it's usually single-player AAA titles that push the limits anyways and I'll take frame gen in a non-competitive experience.
By all means: I am a considerably cheap builder who usually intends to upgrade when I feel something is becoming flat up becoming so inconveniencing that it's no longer capable or when my used parts can leapfrog me to a drastically better platform for a no-brainer price (I did with a 5600 AM4 to AM5 build for $90-110). But I totally understand people wishing to mount as few CPUs/motherboards infrequently as possible and don't want to mess with the used market regularly. For me it's just fun.
splendiferous-finch_@reddit
For gaming probably no0, I can't speak to the future but Nvidia has more stuff in the pileline which may make it to 50xx cards while AMD has made is clear new features will not come to cards once the it's not the current gen( it's corpo policy so might change you will need to make this decision ourself)
From a performance prospective unless you really want things like RT and Path tracing you should be fine with AMD for the most part.
I have a 5070ti, my decision also includes the gou utility beyond gaming and since cuda is a thing I need to interact with from time to time it made my decision. (Rocm I just not there yet and AMD just seem to disinterested in it still).
gen_adams@reddit
no.
KaioKen@reddit
If it's just for gaming then I'd say no.
Specific_Frame8537@reddit
Please everyone say yes so I feel better about my purchase.
f1rstx@reddit
It depends. For many people difference in price worth it, for some don’t. If all you do all day is playing BattleDuty 9: Premium Elite - sure, go for 9070xt - its better value for money in that case. If you have HDR panel, do productivty, enjoy RT-PT, prefer better upscaling and use FG, use other various software it quickly become obvious that 5070ti is better value product.
Antenoralol@reddit
200? No, unless there's specific reasons like needing CUDA.
100 or less, yes.
su1ka@reddit
It depends on your electricity priceses and how much you play. Since the AMD is powerhungy.. Check the benchmarks and count the difference in consumption.
nesnalica@reddit
no.
and its sad that nvidias brand makes it feel like it is.
5070Ti and 9070XT are when it comes to performance very similar. there is no reason to pay more unless u need an nvidia card.
korg64@reddit
Yes. Adrenaline software and FSR is rubbish compared to Geforce and DLSS. I sent back my 9070xt and bought a 5070ti.
DiscountLatter5726@reddit
Yes. 5070ti Has better dlss and better support. 9070 xt won't get even FSR5.
godlyuniverse1@reddit
has that been confirmed or you basing of rumours?
Kagemand@reddit
Just butthurt he didn’t get FSR4 on the older cards.
FSR3 came to older cards when it came out, so there’s no pattern here. It depends on changes in chip capabilities between generations.
There’s currently no reason to believe FSR improvements will require new chip features.
Paco7575@reddit
So there really are people that defend amd on this lol crazy
earn91@reddit
why not the 4070 ti super? with the 16gb of ram
Alex_TrueMan@reddit
Remember. Always buy nvidia gpu over amd.
Flameancer@reddit
If you plan to use it just for gaming, I don’t believe Nvidias software suite is worth it personally. However if you plan to do any local ai video editing, cad etc. especially with CUDA. It probably is worth it. AMD can do it too but most software is geared toward Nvidia.
Onemoreuserdoesnot@reddit
That's, honestly, a thing that only you yourself can answer. Is a better software kit worth the difference? Do I need most of it's advantages or singularities, like CUDA? What about the 9070XT, is it software stack and performance up to my needs? Which games I will be playing? Where do they play better? Etc, etc, etc.
As I told another guy in another comment, if you're on a older platform, go with AMD if you only need to game, as it deals better with cpu and driver overhead. As you said you're playing on 1440p, I need to say that a vanilla 5070 or a vanilla 9070 are also great options for this purpose, both with advantages and disadvantages.
Also, think about how much do you have, how much can you ACTUALLY pay, and how much do you WANT to pay. Last 2 sounds similar, but they're not.
piercinghousekeeping@reddit
My 9070 XT is great for even PCVR. It's at a great price right now too. Powercolor hellhound
NoEconomics8601@reddit
Yes because DLSS is infinitely better
aragorn18@reddit
For what purpose? What are you using your computer for? What's the resolution of your monitor? What games do you play?
Embarrassed_Bite_654@reddit (OP)
Gaming, 1440p and I play both competitive and singleplayer games
FewEstablishment4099@reddit
I'd go for it. Simply cause of DXR performance in certain UE5 games (like black myth wukong), which is far better on nvidia cards (GN and HU testing). Otherwise, why bother getting such a card to begin with?
DarkPhoenix1515@reddit
No
iTzJME@reddit
If you're just gaming I don't think its worth 200 euro personally. 50-100 maybe but not 200.
GreenWorld8549@reddit
Did u read the post
aragorn18@reddit
Did you notice that OP edited their post? The original post body was just an up arrow.
Try not to be a jerk.
GreenWorld8549@reddit
No “edited” doesn’t show on mobile. And it wasn’t in hostility either. You just read my words in the most negative way possible in ur mind.
aragorn18@reddit
You assumed I hadn't read the post when OP responded with the information I asked for. The only reason I could imagine you asking if I had read the post was to chastize me.
Hansimoister@reddit
No bro he disnt assume. He asked.
Framed-Photo@reddit
If I asked you "are you 3 years old" would you think that's me asking you a genuine question, or being an asshole? Be honest.
Putrid-Stranger9752@reddit
No, and this I coming from a 5070 Ti owner. The 9070 XT does just fine and their ray tracing is actually pretty good now.
InnocenceIsBliss@reddit
Only worth it if you actually need CUDA or care about having DLSS in your games. That was my case, so the extra 200€ felt justified.
If it’s just for gaming, grab the 9070XT and enjoy knowing you didn’t throw money away.
WizardMoose@reddit
Only if you're using it for production work. If not, I'd get the 9070xt over the 5070ti even if they were the same price.
FunLocation3218@reddit
yes
alanquinne@reddit
If you have to ask, then the answer is "No".
cootiegalore@reddit
One question I have is how these cards compare when just thinking of how future-proof they are. How would I even think about that question?
DRMNER11@reddit
What games and will you be wanting to use upscaling, frame gen and RT?
Framed-Photo@reddit
Depends. I personally would because I've had both cards and vastly prefer the 5070ti. But if you're not too big on things like reflex, dlss, or rt then it's probably not worth it.
VoidNinja62@reddit
It depends if you're going to be streaming or gaming.
NVIDIA still has better streaming support is my understanding.
darkwai@reddit
My 9070xt can handle pretty much everything at 1440p highest settings.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
Not really, it wouldn't be before the driver issues, and especially with the driver issues. Between more stable software, cost, and the fact that MS is off in cloud cuckooland, unless the price differential is minuscule, the 9070XT is the card you go for.
Flutterpiewow@reddit
Yes. Factor in resale value.
xthelord2@reddit
buy a 9070 non XT, put it in your system and enjoy your games because it is basically a 9070xt with a lower power limit from factory while being cheaper
cheapest one is under 600€ IIRC
digitalsmear@reddit
Does it benchmark better? Yes. Does it benchmark 200 euro more? If you have to ask this question, then probably not.
Progenitor3@reddit
No, I went from a 7900 XT to a 5070 TI and I don't even think that trade is worth 200 euro.
Lost_Local8540@reddit
I would because of VSR and 2 x HDMI output on Asus cards
CooperDK@reddit
Nvidia is the current winner, plus it has CUDA
Interesting-Music439@reddit
5070ti will have capability for newest dlss. 9070xt isn't getting far5 support. I don't know what AMD's deal is with a business model where it drops support for their cards so quickly but here we are. It's not like Nvidia is a "good guy" at all but their models tend to have support for newer features at least for a few generations.
That extra $200 is also buying longevity that AMD cards just don't have.
Kagemand@reddit
FSR3 came to older cards when it came out, so there’s no pattern here. It depends on changes in chip capabilities between generations.
There’s currently no reason to believe FSR improvements will require new chip features.
godlyuniverse1@reddit
is it confirmed to not get fsr5? I thought it was just rumours for now
Muah_dib@reddit
Yes at 100%
Unreal_Crafter@reddit
For gaming no, for working yes.
xoxo470@reddit
Yes and it depends.
alexcutyourhair@reddit
If you can find it for 100 euros or less above a 9070XT I think it's worth it, beyond that you're not getting enough for the extra money. The XT is still a great card for 1440p, it should keep you happy for a long time
Sharp-Opportunity-84@reddit
Amd better price for performance and nvidias have better features maybe for 200€ diff would go 9070xt
Slight_Profession_50@reddit
I would not pay 200€ extra for the 5070 Ti personally.
AdstaOCE@reddit
No.
MisLuck@reddit
Nope, point blank (in gaming)
As for other stuff like productivity it depends