Elon's plastic taxi
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Posted by icleanjaxfl@reddit | WeirdWheels | View on Reddit | 433 comments
demoralising@reddit
VW XL1?
Seandrunkpolarbear@reddit
i loved the idea of this thing. suck cool engineering for the time.
Kichigai@reddit
Rob over at Aging Wheels got to drive one.
Erlend05@reddit
Wow i miss that old intro
National-Star5944@reddit
He does find the cool ones.
Kichigai@reddit
Nothing to find here, that's the Lane Motor Museum, and the XL1 was a big deal when it was debuted. The cool thing is he is able to find ways to have some kind of access to them, even if he can't drive them. That's what a good reputation does to someone who cares about their reputation. People are up for including you in on cool things, like the BEV Cannon Ball Run.
youngsod@reddit
Having seen one, and sat in it in a VW dealer in Cambridge (the real one, not the one across the Atlantic), I have to say it is just as marvellous as you think it is. A lovely piece of kit.
jt663@reddit
most efficient shape
horny_coroner@reddit
Jeah but the XL1 Does actually look pretty good. Its futuristic and it did what it claimed to do. Honestly if they released it today with a small hybrid battery for a bit of umpf to get it moving I would be happy boy.
hondamaticRib@reddit
Jason Cammisa made a video on this? Its a good watch
SjalabaisWoWS@reddit
Also Volvo YCC.
Critical_Habit8818@reddit
The Pedo Express
matthewamerica@reddit
I am NOT advocating for this, but these will 100% be vandalized as soon as they are deployed. Like, rendered inoperable. Who is insuring this? Whoever it is is going to lose a lot of money.
ESIsurveillanceSD@reddit
Insurance companies don't lose money. It's a big pyramid scheme
Mecieb@reddit
No rear window. Emergency exit options just dropped 25%. Smart move. . .
Due-Button-768@reddit
Cheap skate
404notfound420@reddit
What's with the mismatched wheels? The fronts look like a space saver.
Apax89@reddit
Hit so much curbs its cheaper.
Kawkuun@reddit
probably no front hubcaps in stock
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
They look a couple of inches smaller than the rears though, or is that just me?
Austie33@reddit
I think it’s just from the hubcap. I’m sure y they want higher walled tires but a lower profile appearance
nikzyk@reddit
Some cars are doing that now. Id4 has smaller front tires than the back. So dumb just seems like a way for you having to buy new tires way sooner.
tmmoo@reddit
Corvette has don’t that for years
geko29@reddit
ID4's tires are the same diameter though, the rears are just wider. Staggering tire sizes in that way is incredibly common. I have two cars set up that way. One of them has larger-diameter wheels (but not tires) in the rear, which is quite common on performance cars. The C5 Corvette (17" front, 18" rear) was the first car I remember having that type of configuration.
stareweigh2@reddit
its stupid for longevity though because you can't rotate the tires
Retox86@reddit
Its not like they last longer, more that you spread out the wear on all tires. You will still buy the same amount of tires over time..
stareweigh2@reddit
incorrect. if you can not rotate the tires they will wear at an increased rate maybe 30 to 40 percent more
Retox86@reddit
Yea, that cant simple be correct, if you dont mean that you get 30-40% more out of the tires that were wearing out faster before you rotated, but instead increased the rate of wear on the other set.
stareweigh2@reddit
no I mean moving the tires around from the drive axles to the non drive axles and actually rotating them around the car will vastly prolong the life of the tire because you get different types of wear depending on where on the car it is
Retox86@reddit
Yes, but im saying that you dont save money doing this, there are reasons to do it, but its not to make your tires as a whole last longer, but to get an even wear across all tires. You do understand that right? Your tires (as a whole set of 4 tires) wont last longer doing this..
stareweigh2@reddit
well I think it depends on how you look at it. by lasting longer I am talking about getting the full (manufacturer advertised mileage) wear out of the tire vs premature wear from not rotating them.
geko29@reddit
I assure you my 265 rears last significantly longer than they would if they matched the 235s in the front. And I can't mount a tire that wide up front.
ID4 is also rear-biased, so I expect the tire choice reflects the expected wear patterns. Mounting a narrower tire all around would likely mean shorter total tire life in exchange for the extra work of rotating.
stareweigh2@reddit
narrower tire would not mean shorter tire life. they don't work like that. I don't want to try and sound like arrogant but I have been in the tire industry for over 20 years and have lots of industry/technical training from the biggest rubber and tire manufacturer in the world. being able to rotate your tires front to rear and side to side significantly increases the wear life of the tire, period. I'm guessing somewhere to the tune of 40 percent more
L3sh1y@reddit
The first NSX came with 15" front and 16" rear in 1992, but there might be earlier examples still.
00Kermitz@reddit
Honda NSX?
geko29@reddit
BMW M3.
vajav@reddit
It's because having smaller front tires creates angular momentum, the product of an object's mass and velocity. ( p=mv) thus potentially saving massive amounts of fuel
tNgvyen@reddit
i thought staggered wheel sizes have been a thing for a long time? my 1995 MR2 had larger rear wheels from factory
m0nkeyv00d00@reddit
wider, not larger. Yes tons of cars have staggered width, but staggered diameter is very rare.
Critical-Sandwich190@reddit
The Plymouth Prowler comes to mind 🤮
SR70@reddit
They are, BMW, Porsche use staggered wheel setups on their cars (BMW on their M cars, Porsches with the 911) but the rolling circumference is typically the same.
avj@reddit
I've seen better-assembled Pinewood Derby cars
AC-burg@reddit
And the derby cars jave better renewable materials
Bones-1989@reddit
I've assembled better pinewood derby cars and I fucking hate working with wood.
_spectre_@reddit
Sounds like my ex wife lmao
Cant_Work_On_Reddit@reddit
Boom gottem
Zip668@reddit
Pinewood derby, not Kentucky derby.
That_One_Guy_Flare@reddit
I cracked the block trying to make a DeLorean and it still probably ran better than these things
mynameisnotshamus@reddit
You can see how they’re assembled here?
Apart-District3771@reddit
The rears are taller to save on total revolutions per distance or something like that.
TastelessDonut@reddit
Yes, my guess is something about bigger brakes, electric motors or revenue braking out back… won’t fit in the front and steelies are the cheapest option.
apna-haath-jagannath@reddit
Thats normal
SecondaryLawnWreckin@reddit
Yeah, it's like 18 in the front and 21 in the rear. They are really skinny tires too. Like 225's.
Sir_Mike_A_Lot@reddit
225 is not skinny there is 165 lol
BillDaPony101@reddit
Lucid EVs have different sized front and rear wheels too
grundlemon@reddit
Might be like the cybertruck where the hubcap goes over the sidewall a bit
Greghole@reddit
The front and back tires get caps that match the colour of the car. These tires are different sizes which is why they look different with the caps off. With the caps on its less noticable.
AFewStupidQuestions@reddit
Probably recalled.
Axman6@reddit
“These hubcaps are bullet proof”
These hubcaps catch fire if curbed
SecondVariety@reddit
Samsung-nVidia collaboration?
AppropriateDeal1034@reddit
Wheel trims*
Vladimir_Chrootin@reddit
It's a Tesla, they'll call them something like GigaCap™ and pretend Musk invented them.
AppropriateDeal1034@reddit
Yeah, they're called aerodiscs, pretty much as obnoxious.
Greghole@reddit
They're different sized tires on the front and back. They get matching covers put on the front and back but those are missing in this picture.
QuellishQuellish@reddit
Range maybe?
Modo44@reddit
It was not ugly enough otherwise.
Senappi@reddit
That worked great for Mazda 787b
Pod_people@reddit
Exactly what I was thinking. Looks like the spare from an old Civic.
gregsting@reddit
Maybe /r/thefrontfelloff
anonbrewingco@reddit
Transport/Delivery wheels. Typically dealers would install the wheels at the dealership. Idk how Tesla does it though
ttadam@reddit
There is an urban legend that the cybercab is actually the failed roadster project, and they just reusing parts or plans.
There is no good reason why a cab should be a two seater.
NewSinner_2021@reddit
it probably would make sense considering what the data states is the average amount of taxi riders within a taxi ride.
Lord_Hardbody@reddit
I think this is more likely the cancelled cheap Tesla, the one that was supposed to slot in under the model 3. Musk talked about that thing all the time and how it was coming soon, and then he got a bee in his bonnet about self driving taxis and boom, no more cheap Tesla
snowpaxz@reddit
Agreed. I don't know if Model 2 was ever an actual Tesla name or just a name journalists gave it since 2 < 3, but it would be on brand for the Model 2 to have two seats
RallyXer34@reddit
He would never use model 2, it doesn’t fit the existing juvenile naming scheme; S 3 X Y
DasWeissKanin@reddit
What about 2 S 3 X Y
pussycrumbs@reddit
Mighty car mods
Csharp27@reddit
2 S 3 X Y 4 U
broggyr@reddit
Right Said Fred has entered the chat
LounBiker@reddit
They'd be so on-brand for Tesla.
Syrdon@reddit
A line up that was cheap car, sports car, sedan that doesn't suck, small wagon, full size wagon, pick up, suv would actually mean they could make all the names make some sense. You could claim there's a logic to each one instead of just "lawl, aren't I 13 and clever".
Sure, the logic is "lol, aren't I 20 and clever", but we've added 2/3 to the age! Maybe that's why Elon wasn't interested...
Joe_Kangg@reddit
2 sexy for quality control
TwoPlyDreams@reddit
2 S X Y 4 U R C A T
Baydreams@reddit
I’m a taxi, you know what I mean, and I do my little turn onto the sidewalk. On the sidewalk, on the sidewalk, yeah I run over kids on the sidewalk.
No_Cook2983@reddit
N A 2 I
P 3 D O
gnowbot@reddit
Got the 3”E” and the S.
Just need to finish the range with models P, T, I, and N.
HazelEBaumgartner@reddit
Knowing Elon, the next four cars would be the Model K, Model 1, Model D, and Model Z.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Is Elon a pedo or something?
HazelEBaumgartner@reddit
He's all over the Epstein Files.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Ok. And? Did he even go to the island? Just because someone appears in the files doesn’t mean they’re a pedophile. I feel like there should be proof of wrongdoing to call someone a pedophile. That’s a pretty harsh accusation. I mean, I know someone personally who is in the Epstein files, and the only reason he’s in there was that he was invited, but declined.
Plus from what I’ve seen the only mentions of Elon are from emails from like 2012.
HazelEBaumgartner@reddit
He begged Epstein to let him go to the island ON CHRISTMAS DAY and Epstein said no because he thought he was a creep.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Do you have any proof of this? I can’t find anything about it.
7LeagueBoots@reddit
Come on, it was all over the news not long ago. You’re not even pretending to try.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
I can’t find any proof of it whatsoever. All I can find are a few emails from like 14 years ago where they talk about Elon possibly visiting the island, but there’s no proof of him even ever going. And I can’t find any proof of Epstein denying him because he thought he was a creep.
7LeagueBoots@reddit
No one said he visited the island. He sent emails begging Epstein to let him visit asking when the "wildest parties" would be and the like. There are also emails where Epstein did invite him to a party off the island and Elon mocked him saying he was too important to go to a social function until Epstein got annoyed at how dim Musk was had to make it very obvious that it was a sex party with possibly underaged girls. The point is not whether he actually went to the island, it's that Musk knew exactly who and what Epstein was and wanted in.
The aspect of Epstein thinking Musk was a creep is not explicitly stated, it's implied by how Epstein responds and how he eventually shuffles him off to his staff to deal with. It's a matter of reading between the lines and doing that it's clear that Epstein didn't like Musk.
Su-37_Terminator@reddit
you getting paid for this or you doing this fo fwee, is the real question
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Never understood this argument. I’m not defending Elon personally, I’m just combatting misinformation. I’m asking for a source for the claim that he’s a pedophile or begged to go to the island but was denied for being a creep, that’s it. No one can provide a source, I can’t find anything about it online, and no, that person’s Guardian article they linked doesn’t prove it either (which I called them out before they promptly blocked me lol)z
HazelEBaumgartner@reddit
I googled "Elon Musk Jeffrey Epstein" and this was the first result so I don't think you looked very hard.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/30/elon-musk-epstein-files-island-visits
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Bro… did you even read your own source? I read that entire article and it actually reinforces what I said way more than it reinforces what you said 😂
HazelEBaumgartner@reddit
It actually doesn't but go off. You're not Elon's type but maybe someday you'll have kids of your own.
TurboDorito@reddit
Are we forgetting that Elon called someone else a pedo with absolutely no proof over the Thai kids situation?
Fuck musk, the pedofile piece of shit. A terrible father, a terrible businessman and a terrible person.
newtoaster@reddit
Model K, Model K, Model K
jka09@reddit
How do you know people you haven’t met?
funkopolis@reddit
Don't be specious. I don't know Kid Rock, but I know enough about him to make some educated guesses about him.
jka09@reddit
Educated generalizations, sure. What are his next 4 albums from 2029 through 2032 named?
I guess that would be the equivalent here, for Tesla to develop and name 4 new cars and know what they’ll be called ahead of time.
MattressHallington@reddit
Why dont u ask some really questions like why was he given so much access to our social security system. We might all have to get new ss#.
jka09@reddit
I’m pretty sure i know what you meant.
Why would i ask questions for things i know the answers to?
iliketotryptamine@reddit
Can you truly say you /know/ everyone you've met?
Oberlatz@reddit
Can we even say we know ourselves?
jka09@reddit
What’s a “self-discovery trip” for?
jka09@reddit
You really can’t unless you’ve been close for a long time. Even then, no actual guarantee, it’s cynical but i think there’s at least some truth to it.
Someone can be a complete psycho but very good at hiding it even from people close to them.
itbedehaam@reddit
How do you know Miss Baumgartner hasn't met Musk?
Zamiel@reddit
Because he was begging to go to Little St. James?
topazchip@reddit
Mighty Car Mods had a "2sexy" project 9 years ago, Tesla might be in for an IP infringement suit if they tried.
dirtiestUniform@reddit
But that is a Honda
bacondesign@reddit
Already been done by MCM https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLp0KnUFYB--jqheNy-cHUeDrmoE5VVY4i&si=GQUVBeMKhrM8Er2D
PixelAstro@reddit
They’ve stopped making the S and the X so Tesla is no longer S 3 X Y.
Topikk@reddit
Also, somehow, the Cybertruck exists.
justsomeyodas@reddit
Is that really a thing? I didn’t think I could hate that guys more.
magungo@reddit
You're just wrong there: I'm 2 S 3 X Y for this car. Plenty juvenile enough.
itbedehaam@reddit
2 S 3 X Y 4 U to give space for an actual pickup truck and some other proposed but unreleased model.
RallyXer34@reddit
The Model U will be an electric boat of some sort, maybe one that goes under things like seas.
Csharp27@reddit
Hey I said it first
RallyXer34@reddit
Dammit, you’re right, he would never stick to chronological order of release.
snowpaxz@reddit
Counter point, the joke could be 2S3XY and have a whole "Too sexy for my shirt" marketing campaign
shocoyotay@reddit
2 S 3 X Y def works
shlerm@reddit
Does the model 3 have three seats?
drzowie@reddit
"Model 3" was a response to Ford complaining about the original name, which was "Model E".
thewhorecat@reddit
Definitely could be. I see these around Austin every once in a while (always with a driver) and they are tiny with a tiny rear wheelbase and look cheap.
MichaelTheLMSBoi@reddit
I had no idea they started being sold yet
thewhorecat@reddit
They aren’t. It’s the Cybercab. They are in the test phase. I see them around Austin always with a driver.
YellowFogLights@reddit
Do you mean rear track width?
thewhorecat@reddit
Yes, indeed.
YellowFogLights@reddit
I had no idea they were narrower in the back. What a weird vehicle
resistBat@reddit
Like an old Citroen DS.
poo-cum@reddit
I think narrower rear makes it more stable in some sense.
TangibleExpe@reddit
Even my full size truck has a taper, it helps with drag
Rare-Bird-4353@reddit
So “with a driver” kills the entire self driving, the 2 passenger bit, the “has no steering wheel” and the entire business model for these things 🤷♂️
Still I guess the self driving on teslas isn’t that safe to begin with so someone has to babysit them.
JCDU@reddit
Given that manufacturers need to build a "test fleet" of cars before going into full production it would totally track - got bored or realised it wasn't going to work, instead of scrapping a bunch of cars just re-launch them as robo taxis and watch the fanbois hail you as a visionary genius.
symbologythere@reddit
I would buy that 2 seater. Looks cool.
Porschenut914@reddit
that and IIRC the theory was the only way to get the price that low was to drastically cut the battery size and motor power, and make the interior spartan even by tesla standards. And then the fear it would start cannibalizing model 3 sales.
Global_Chair9652@reddit
Fleet sales are always the preferred method of sales
DeepAsparagus6763@reddit
More than 80% of rides are 1 or 2 passengers so it does kinda make sense
They also showed this weird cyber van thing that will probably never exist
xrelaht@reddit
Not unless they gain something from making it a 2 seater. It doesn’t need to look sporty and the weight and length savings are of marginal utility, so all making it a 2 seater does is make those other 20% more complicated to execute.
ersatzcrab@reddit
They already make cars with more than two seats that have the same hardware to drive themselves. For that 20% of trips that needs more people or storage space, they'll send out a normal car.
Apparently, but it's musk so take this with several huge grains of salt, they're much cheaper to manufacture at scale and involve way fewer raw materials in battery production. Since they won't be making direct revenue off the sale of these things it's important that initial costs are low.
xrelaht@reddit
Right, which means the minor cost savings of having less material in these things is likely obviated by needing to run two production lines. I'm having trouble thinking of cars which come in both 2 and 4 seat versions to make a good comparison, but a 2 door saves like 50kg over a 4 door. Even if dropping the rear seats saves double that, it's still negligible compared with having a whole separate set of parts and tooling.
This is more cheaply solved by putting a smaller battery into the 4 seater they're already making.
AntAir267@reddit
You think making a car 1/3rd the size of an entire 4 seater is an insignificant amount of savings in efficiency and production cost? Hate Elon Musk (no qualms there) all you want but this shit is backed by data rather than your personal irritation.
Minardi-Man@reddit
The users don't gain much, but as a manufacturer I imagine the cost savings from not needing to install the extra doors, tubing, electrics, seats, etc is not insignificant.
Able_Pride_4129@reddit
Yeah, 20% of all rides is a lot of missed potential income
ThatOneChiGuy@reddit
That looks like it's outta the animated Batman series
Trainzguy2472@reddit
That would actually make sense lol. I guess they made a different body for it though because this shape would be unimaginable as a roadster.
546875674c6966650d0a@reddit
Yeah but, a 2 seater coupe? I'd be interested.
TalbotFarwell@reddit
It’d make for a cool targa top, especially if you could fold the top and stow it in the trunk/frunk or something.
Trainzguy2472@reddit
Maybe? But I really don't like the rear design. Hard to see out of even if they added a window there. This body style is like a half baked fastback-hatchback mashup.
546875674c6966650d0a@reddit
I wouldn't change a thing. Just rely on video. I mean most cars have shit direct rear view more and more now anyway... so cameras on the back on a 'mirror' screen would be fine. I'd run it.
I mean, I'd get the 3M double stick fake air intakes to put on the back of course ;) let's not forget those.
Trainzguy2472@reddit
Eh, if I were buying a coupe, which I view as a "driver's car", I'd want to feel closer to my surroundings rather than the distant insulated feeling of ordinary consumer cars.
546875674c6966650d0a@reddit
There are no drivers cars anymore. They are just vehicles with operators. It’s been a few decades since I’ve been in a car that really felt like I was driving it, versus just interacting with it.
poo-cum@reddit
I drove a Taycan Turbo last year and it felt very direct. The steering felt hydraulic even though it isn't (at least i don't think it is??)
JustJay613@reddit
Doesn't sound like you live where Winter happens or wet dirt roads. Cameras suck in anything but ideal conditions.
546875674c6966650d0a@reddit
Yeah, I’m aware of the reality of the situation. I would still risk it. No I don’t live anywhere with extreme wet, snowy conditions or anything. But yeah, I would be mindful.
BananaPalmer@reddit
Try convincing a FuLL SeLf dRiViNg zealot of that
popcornfart@reddit
Tesla calls a 2 seater coupe a roadster for some stupid reason
546875674c6966650d0a@reddit
Because words don't mean anything anymore, and it identifies as a Roadster.
Careflwhatyouwish4@reddit
🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
BillfredL@reddit
Eh, I can think of very few occasions where I had more than two passengers in the Uber. If that lets them pump out smaller ones, it’s the least objectionable part of the endeavor to me. They can always pump out some Model Ys for the bigger groups.
Bamres@reddit
I feel like its just impractical to not provide the option for more seats, when a driver usually takes up one position and it would increase capacity. Its the same reason cheap 2 door cars are disappearing overall
Expensive_Archer1662@reddit
Cheap two doors are disappearing because for a car you own you want options and more space, cheap four door sedans are way less popular now too. For rideshare you don’t need a ton of space for the family or carpools or to haul camping shit and coolers to the lake
QuineQuest@reddit
What driver? Aren't they supposed to be autonomous - like it's their whole deal?
BillfredL@reddit
Rideshare vehicles, like trucking, are entirely an economics puzzle.
If you know you're going to deploy (I'm making up numbers) 500 cars to a city, and 80% of your rides have 1-2 people inside, and you can deploy a car that's a bit lighter and slippery through the air for a large chunk of those riders, why wouldn't you?
Bamres@reddit
Seat/door count doesn't directly correlate to it being a lighter vehicle. I think you could probably compare the wight of this to a 4 door civic or Corolla and it wouldn't be that off.
BillfredL@reddit
No, but only putting in a 35 kWh pack (compared to the Model 3's standard 57.5) sure does. They are optimizing the crap out of the Cybercab for low operating cost.
Whether they get the formula right or not, we'll see.
Expensive_Archer1662@reddit
Bingo, they already addressed this, 90% of rideshares are two pax or fewer. Smaller is cheaper
Expensive_Archer1662@reddit
That doesn’t make sense really, the roadster was/is/was a super sporty high dollar car, they can’t have had many parts for such an inherently low prod model.
Evidently 90% of rideshares are two pax or fewer, smaller car = cheaper and faster to build. I wonder too if over two pax greatly increases the number of drunk misbehaving pax. Weird still, no steering wheel or pedals, how tf they transporting these off the truck?
Little_Try_6502@reddit
Look up the Honda crx, insight and crz. Very good reasons for it. Cheap, light and aerodynamic
TheEvilBlight@reddit
Kinda has a 911 look to it, I guess
GrynaiTaip@reddit
The roadster was supposed to have 4 seats, which could explain this weird body shape. I can believe that the whole plan and finances for it didn't work out but they only had a bunch of empty shells, so they built the cybercrap.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Actually, the vast majority of cab rides are two people. So they’re entering the two seater cab market first, before most likely expanding at some point in the future. It really isn’t that difficult to understand lol
nikedemon@reddit
It’s because roughly 85% of cab rides are 2 people or fewer
AngryFace4@reddit
A cab carrying one or two people is probably the most common case.
MourningRIF@reddit
Maybe... But if it's self driving, 2 seats is plenty for most scenarios.
TouchingTheMirror@reddit
At first the edible made me read it as "Cybercrab," and I got excited. Then I realized you were talking about just another dumb car from Elon.
HamsterOnLegs@reddit
Bro’s smart-weed made him hallucinate mechanical crustaceans.
Zestyclose-Mud-594@reddit
Looking across the board, conservative estimates put solo cab riders at around 85% of cab fares. Tesla already has a fleet of four door cars that can fill the remaining 15%. Its actually not a bad idea to build something cheap and light that covers majority of rides. This makes it easier to build a fleet to scale, while not digging into profits.
north7@reddit
How many cab rides have you taken where you aren't sitting in the back seat, with the driver alone in the front seat?
Ok now eliminate the need for a driver.
Get it now?
Tumble85@reddit
lol did the roadster fail? It was gonna rocket jump!
MRDR1NL@reddit
Does that look even remotely like a roadster?
thetalkingcure@reddit
i mean change the rear paneling and yeah it would look decent. the front half isn’t terrible. it’s the back that makes it look goofy
Emotional_Warthog_81@reddit
Why would you make a two door taxi?!
spacepeenuts@reddit
It looks like the first gen Prius
STDriver13@reddit
You know what screams, people mover? A 2 door coupe. (Sarcasm)
Hot-Significance2387@reddit
Personally I like this as a little poor man's roadster.
The problem is that it ain't going to be cheap and sure as heck not a roadster.
I want this to release asap solely for the purpose of failing fast. Ending driverless cab crazes before it begins.
gizmosticles@reddit
I’ve seen one or two on the street and honestly it looked pretty interesting irl
MeanEntertainment355@reddit
I want one
Sig_Alert@reddit
Caught one in the wild outside Chicago a few weeks back
IkmoIkmo@reddit
what the fuck is this jesus christ
riverturtle@reddit
So narrow, weird
Lorenzo_BR@reddit
Eh, that’s a pretty normal sized car for 99% pf the world. It’s weird for Telsa to make a mid-sized-for-global-standards 2 door taxi, though
mukavastinumb@reddit
The person who decided to make 2-door taxi should be fired (hoping it was Melon)
josephniet@reddit
Nah it's the proportions that make it look narrow & just off in general. Specifically the XL wheel arches and swept in tail make it less than 2 wheels wide, and the overall shape language is of a super low sports car, but it's been stretched taller than a crossover SUV (based on this photo at least). It's like they've stretched a cool concept over engineering realities that don't match, rather than designing around the reality in the first place.
BobMeta@reddit
Holy shit and here i thought the cybertruck was ugly
mukavastinumb@reddit
It looks like someone squished the clay model of the car.
Vladimir_Chrootin@reddit
I like hatchbacks, they are very space efficient.
Call me a reactionary, but I do not like hatchbacks which have an opaque tailgate. When driving, I like having a window to be able to see what's behind the car, entitled as that may sound.
_spectre_@reddit
Looks like a npc car in a shitty cyper punk racing game
sharkbait-oo-haha@reddit
That looks like an unfinished clay mock up.
boilons@reddit
Oh wow, they even bothered to put hubcaps on the front. Extra fancy!
Wooden-Berry-1169@reddit
I would call call it "Plasti-Taxi" but that sounds like if the Kardashians made a porn site.
Gramerdim@reddit
would it not make much much more sense to use highly modified (waym level) model 3's ?
obi1kenobi1@reddit
Tesla doesn’t believe in LiDAR, they still think cameras are good enough despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. LiDAR costs money and Tesla only deals in hype and vibes, not actual technology or reliability.
Honest_Statement1021@reddit
Lol LiDAR is for edge case redundancies and the number of such failure cases are shrinking by the day.
Look, I’m no fan of Tesla, just a robotics enthusiast, so can you point out any consumer cars that are comparable to Teslas FSD so I can get access to such tech without having to buy Tesla?
Let’s also not forget the absolute fuck load of data every Tesla is collecting every day, Tesla could stop selling cars tomorrow and they’d still be worth tens of billions just from their software and data alone. You’ve completely missed their positioning and strategy.
Initial_Zombie8248@reddit
LiDAR is by far the choice for automated vehicles. Cameras don’t have the depth perception that LiDAR offers
Honest_Statement1021@reddit
I was being a little inflammatory when I wrote my first comment. I agree with the current state of the art lidar should be a requirement for any consumer self driving vehicle not only for redundancy but because they out perform cameras in those aforementioned edge cases.
But it’s interesting to think about how if you can solve some of the ocular hiccups (glare, fog, etc) to make the cameras have the same acuity as behind the windshield (or just put the camera behind the windshield) that’d it’d be a major software goal to “solve” camera only systems, after all human driving is almost entirely vision based save some audio cues. It will out perform lidar in all cases one day.
righthandofdog@reddit
Really? Cause lidar outperforms human vision by a country mile at things like exact distance measurement and seeing in poor conditions. But better measurement doesn't mean that waymos are incredibly stupid and shouldn't be in the road.
Honest_Statement1021@reddit
Yet humans get by just fine using just their eyes.
Stereo vision out performs LiDAR unless you’re putting 10s of thousands into the LiDAR.
I work with sub 10k LiDARs almost daily. They suck even in ideal conditions.
righthandofdog@reddit
You're comparing human vision that has evolved over half a billion years to binocular machine vision. Which is insanely naive as it ignores the entire reasoning system that goes along with it and pretending that machine binocular vision is anything like as good?
How well does machine vision work at distance determination when it only has one functioning camera? Because many humans blind in one eye drive regularly. Hell there's been a professional baseball pitcher blind in one eye.
Honest_Statement1021@reddit
One eyed humans don’t have “traditional” depth perception that comes from two eyes. Their brain figures it out over time and they build the contextualization of knowing exactly how large objects in their scene (and therefore their approximate distance based on size) are over time.
We’re seeing parallels in the computer vision research, monocular vision systems with neural network backed contextualizations is literally one of the hottest ML-CV topics at the moment.
fuck_peeps_not_sheep@reddit
Hey, over the years ive lot about 60% of the vision in my left eye… my depth perception hasn’t changed at all, i cam close and open the bad eye and everything stays the same - im gonna need you to explain what you mean more.
Honest_Statement1021@reddit
Another way to think of this from a cv perspective is with a picture of an object from a one camera source I could never guess its size and distance without knowledge about the dimensions of something else in the image, from a 2+ camera source you can measure size and distance arbitrarily.
Honest_Statement1021@reddit
What I meant by traditional “true” depth perception is stereopsis which inarguably requires two eyes.
The brain is incredibly powerful and can quickly learn to fake stereopsis from experience (monocular cues)
This is why people can play video games and watch tv without it being a problem - stereopsis isn’t having effects on flat screens but we still manage to estimate.
Troggie42@reddit
"Look, i'm no fan of tesla"
go buff your cybertruck, elon fellater
Saint_The_Stig@reddit
If we were using sense here we wouldn't be fucking around with shitty taxis. Tesla only exists to try and scam money away from public transit.
Fli_fo@reddit
I think it looks fine. I'd buy one myself if the price is right. People are spoilt.
rep_identity@reddit
You won’t be able to buy a Cybercab. It’s for Tesla’s Robotaxi service.
Fli_fo@reddit
That's too bad. it looks like a nice car. Enough for my needs.
Cheap_Collar2419@reddit
Th two door taxi. Awesome
EV_M4Sherman@reddit
Most Uber rides are 1-2 people.
burgonies@reddit
Most taxis are effectively 2-door. Have you ever sat in the front of a yellow cab?
LAMonkeyWithAShotgun@reddit
Sat in the front of lots of Ubers with larger groups, like family.
burgonies@reddit
Ubers aren’t cabs/taxis. I’m talking about cars that are made/modified to be cabs. Like yellow cabs in NY or London cabs. There are 2 doors and there’s a partition between the driver.
LAMonkeyWithAShotgun@reddit
We don't have those in my country. Taxis are just normal cars in most parts of the world
burgonies@reddit
I’m guessing these won’t be showing up in your country or most parts of the world
LAMonkeyWithAShotgun@reddit
Yeah they will probably be in America. Where apart from NYC, Chicago, and Philadelphia the divider is not normal and most Taxis/Ubers are just normal cars
burgonies@reddit
“Normal cars” are not cabs and are not what these are. I don’t know why you people keep insinuating otherwise.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Because they don’t like Elon, there literally isn’t any other reason. They pretend to not understand because they don’t like Elon. They pretend to think it’s stupid. It really is that simple.
yoweigh@reddit
Two-door cabs aren't suddenly a good idea just because Elon came up with it. He comes up with bad ideas just like anyone else.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Why aren’t they a good idea? Tell me a reason that has nothing to do with Elon and isn’t just “they’re giving up market share” lmao.
yoweigh@reddit
Resale value.
You're the one who made this about Elon, not me. He has good ideas and bad ideas, just like anyone else does. I don't need to be a hater to think this is a bad idea.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
These aren’t for sale, and you still haven’t given a single reason for why this is a bad idea.
yoweigh@reddit
I did, and you dismissed it. I don't care about this enough to continue interacting with you.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
You literally have not presented a single valid argument though. Not even one 😂
yoweigh@reddit
👍
Bamres@reddit
I don't see how they are in any way an improvement over a cab that can carry more people.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
No one said they were. That’s just the market Tesla is targeting first. Most taxi rides are with only two people. So they developed a coupe taxi. It really is that simple. No one can ever give a real reason why that’s really a bad idea.
Bamres@reddit
This seems circular at this point. Not being an improvement over the current way things are done are why people are saying its a bad Idea.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
It’s an improvement because it’s driverless and will theoretically be cheaper than Waymos and normal taxis. Mass-producing this vehicle, which is cheaper than if there were 4 seats, will hopefully make the taxi rides cheaper and more accessible.
Also, that doesn’t make it a “bad idea” lol.
Bamres@reddit
No one is disputing the driverless thing here, I don't even understand why you would bring that up when the whole point people are discussing is the seat count.
I cant see two seats over five is cheaper for build costs but also reduces the customer base that is able to use these vehicles over time. People are saying that no one its in the front of a taxi, but maybe they would be more likely to with no driver.
Anyways I think I'm done, this is getting stupid at this point.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
…because that’s what’s improving over existing taxis? Driverless means cheaper and more accessible.
People are criticizing the seat count because it’s Elon, you and I both know this. It’s extremely obvious. So what they decided not to capture 100% of the taxi market in their first taxi model? Why do you care?
yoweigh@reddit
Normal cars are not cabs, but cabs are normal cars. No one has created a cab-specific car model because there's no demand for one.
burgonies@reddit
No one? Are you sure? Ever been to London?
yoweigh@reddit
I have. Good point! I didn't think of the black cabs.
Bamres@reddit
The existence of dedicated vehicles designed to be cans doesn't mean that a Camry Cab is not also a cab.
LAMonkeyWithAShotgun@reddit
Because a cab is not defined by the divider. It is just a modification for driver safety and is no longer even required in NYK.
Definition of a cab from google "A cab is a taxi (a car for hire with a driver)"
Also the only difference between a Taxi and an Uber is that one runs a meter and not a predetermined journey cost. And i doubt the cybercab will have a meter so its not even a cab technically
burgonies@reddit
Never been to London?
LAMonkeyWithAShotgun@reddit
Have you? Black Taxis are disappearing in London. 1 black cab for every 8 normal cars registered as a Private Hire Vehicle aka Taxi or Uber
burgonies@reddit
So you admit you know the difference, but are acting stupid
LAMonkeyWithAShotgun@reddit
what difference?
Black Taxi is a vehicle model. Its just a normal Taxi but a specific model of car is used
burgonies@reddit
If you can’t ascertain the difference between a London cab and a normal car then I can’t help you.
LAMonkeyWithAShotgun@reddit
they do the same thing. One is just a different model. Why can a Minivan and a Sedan both be Taxis but a Black cab cant?
shlerm@reddit
Seems like a very limited market.
Bakk322@reddit
Tons of times
burgonies@reddit
In an actual taxi? Or an uber?
Bakk322@reddit
Mostly Ubers, but also in actual taxi’s. I’ve never had a taxi suggest I couldn’t sit in the front when with 2 or 3 other people.
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
Yes. It's kind of the norm in Australia.
burgonies@reddit
There’s no partition between the back seat and the driver?
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
Nope
xrelaht@reddit
Yes, many times. Even more if you count Ubers.
burgonies@reddit
I do not count Ubers as taxis, no
founderofshoneys@reddit
They already make a truck that doesn't truck. Why not a cab that doesn't cab?
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Actually, the vast majority of cab rides are two people. So they’re entering the two seater cab market first, before most likely expanding at some point in the future. It really isn’t that difficult to understand lol
GrynaiTaip@reddit
Two-door and four-door cars are the same size. There's literally no benefit in making it two-door. Melon being melon is the only reason.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
They’re the same size? Since when? Coupes are smaller than sedans.
Yes, thank you for proving my point. The only reason you’re pretending not to understand this is that you don’t like Elon.
GrynaiTaip@reddit
This coupe isn't smaller than a four-door car of the same length.
Google says that it's 175 inches long. Four-door cars like Hyundai Kona, VW Golf, Buick Encore, Mitsubishi Outlander or Mazda CX-30 are SHORTER than it.
Try again.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
All tiny and cramped vehicles. This is built to be a comfortable taxi.
Dorwyn@reddit
London taxis are 180". There is no reason for them to use a 2 seater for a taxi.
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Actually the reason is that the vast majority of cab rides are 1-2 people, and this is a private company manufacturing the vehicles which never intended to take over the entire taxi market with their first vehicle.
Saint_The_Stig@reddit
Welp failed there. Lol
obi1kenobi1@reddit
175” is absurdly short for a four door though. All those vehicles you mentioned have unusable back seats, they’re basically a 2+2 at best, only enough room for two adults in the front and two children in the back, and even then only for a quick trip to school or a grocery store. A Ford Crown Victoria (the traditional American taxi) was 219” long. Even the minivans and crossovers that replaced them as taxis are more like 200” long.
Try again.
GrynaiTaip@reddit
Oh right, I forgot that you're all morbidly obese and actually need the bed of a pickup truck to move your mother around.
founderofshoneys@reddit
I'm gonna enter the lucrative single person cab ride market by buying a cab and ripping out all but one of the seats.
FuzzzyRam@reddit
#doubt
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Literally Google it 😂
FuzzzyRam@reddit
Ok I'm back from Google. I guess we've been on mars for 2 years. Praise your authoritarian overlord, like you, I believe his words over my own eyes and ears...
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Who is the authoritarian overlord I’m praising? I’m giving the reason the vehicle is 2 doors. Stop saying dumb shit.
FuzzzyRam@reddit
You said they're going to expand this re- ... smart people fleet according to your authoritarian overlord. I think you might want to look at some of his past statements (cutting US AID will lower the deficit, we will be on mars by 2024, self driving cars almost a decade ago, high speed rail not necessary since we'll have hyperloop, putting chips in brains won't make monkey violently kill themselves...) you might find that he's not a good source of information.
Enjoy your crypto crash though bud.
Wakkit1988@reddit
It trucks just fine, rides on the flatbed like a champ!
Angelworks42@reddit
It’s kinda funny too as Elon talked about reduced rates for cabs that went along predetermined routes and stops. Reminds me of something but I can’t quite place my finger on it.
Lilmumblecrapper@reddit
Honestly makes perfect sense, he makes more money only allowing two passengers
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
Actually, the vast majority of cab rides are two people. So they’re entering the two seater cab market first, before most likely expanding at some point in the future. It really isn’t that difficult to understand lol
DylanFTW@reddit
Passenger princess is mandatory.
Momik@reddit
Yikes
Aplyrie@reddit
I hate teslas. I think theyre all ugly. I absolutely love these
2Questioner_0R_Not2B@reddit
Since when can cars be made out of plastic?
Vast-Yak-8713@reddit
What is this thing? A prototype taxi? For real?
Eagle-Enthusiast@reddit
I’m a committed Tesla hater but I guess I have to be the only person who actually likes the look of these. What exactly do other people dislike about the shape? Is it the 5head?
I wish any other company had produced them
MEM756@reddit
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
You could argue the XL-1 copied the first generation Honda Insight lol
nill0c@reddit
Which copied the GM EV1
mukavastinumb@reddit
Which copied the Citroën DS (1955)
MEM756@reddit
It's a never ending circle, you know?
MexicanAssLord69@reddit
It all goes back to the Benz Patent-Motorwagen lol
DefSysteam@reddit
Wish they didn’t price that WV so high though. Also super limited run.
mike7257@reddit
That time there was no technology to mass production of ultra ligh weight bodys . It was never planned to be mass produced. The body of this car is more common to a fighter jet than to a standard car .
flapsmcgee@reddit
Jet fighters aren't made out of CFRP
ImOnlyHereForTheCoC@reddit
Wolksvagen
MEM756@reddit
I love this wordplay, as it goes somewhat on the lines of, but not truly: Clouds' vehicle
YellowFogLights@reddit
Spelt like it’s pronounced
NOTExETON@reddit
West Virginia?
tiagojpg@reddit
MM (mountain momma)
mukavastinumb@reddit
TMH (Take me Home)
Shpander@reddit
CR (Country Roads)
caudatus67@reddit
I don't think that there was demand for a lot of them, so they were forced to make a limited run. And good luck trying to build a carbon-fibre two seater hybrid diesel for cheap... They had to recoup at least some of the R&D money.
Still a shame, it's probably one of my favourite vehicles
MdMooseMD@reddit
Yeah, $150k for a 68hp car that does 0-60 in 12.7 seconds is pretty ridiculous lol Obviously speed and performance wasn’t really the point, and it was a concept basically so it’s gonna be expensive, but still crazy
mynameisnotshamus@reddit
They look nothing alike.
Mister_Brevity@reddit
I’ll bet the only reason he wants automated taxis is to drastically expand his ability to record audio/video of people and feed it to ai
Kichigai@reddit
Nah, man. I mean, that may be a side benefit, but he's a techbro, and what are techbros all about these days?
He wants self-driving taxis as the on-ramp to Cars as a Service. You never buy a car, you only rent them.
Mister_Brevity@reddit
It would be naive to assume hes not 100% on board with using teslas as mobile surveillance platforms. We already know he can personally access interior video/audio feeds, he already demonstrated it. Grab that data to feed to palantir, or whatever grokified competitor he's working on, to build social credit profiles on americans to determine who can vote, who can travel, who goes to work camps. He has no need for more money, now he just wants to exert control. Money can get you power, but so can information.
Kichigai@reddit
I didn't say he wouldn't be on board with it, but I think the idea that you would be paying him in perpetuity for transportation rather than paying once for something you'd own came before the idea for rolling surveillance boxes.
Mister_Brevity@reddit
The money he’d make from contributing to palantir would probably eclipse car as a service, because he’d continue to get sweetheart deals and regularly exemptions. Look at the course of his endeavors - so much of it dedicated to controlling access to information. Foreign made router sales blocked in the us, but starlink already has approval… weird how that worked out.
Kichigai@reddit
I'm not saying Elon wouldn't do that, I'm strictly talking about chicken or the egg. I think, strictly in terms of linear time, the idea for rental-only cars came into his head before the rolling privacy invasion.
Mister_Brevity@reddit
I’d imagine people brought them the ideas tbh, his primary skill seems to be taking credit for things.
RubAnADUB@reddit
why not sell the car? if it was 20k I would buy one.
slaptard@reddit
Saw a few in Hutto, TX a few weeks back.
Rare-Bird-4353@reddit
Zoom in on the first one and it appears to have a steering wheel, which defeats the entire point of the vehicle as announced and first shown 🤷♂️
Kichigai@reddit
These are prototypes. Probably has a manual override if the vehicle is malfunctioning so the test engineer can drive it back instead of needing a tow.
Rare-Bird-4353@reddit
Oh I am sure they are prototypes, the thing is his big sell of them was that they had no steering wheel and no driver at all, now they are being used as “cabs” with a steering wheel and a Tesla employee in the “drivers seat”. I mean they aren’t going to allow anyone calling it as a cab access to the controls (going to assume it also has gas brake petals too). It is utterly moronic for these to be out there at this point all, which is why they do the testing as cabs with Y series to begin with. Get the technology right first before the big flashy gold showpiece
Expensive_Archer1662@reddit
They can never make me hate Tesla’s weird designs, wish more automakers took risks with polarizing shit
breezywood@reddit
So is it a “cybercab” or a “robotaxi”? It says both in that horrible typeface.
flixflexflux@reddit
They look grim...
Legal-Pea8185@reddit
honda crx knockoff
PiskoWK@reddit
You know, taxis, the vehicle famous for having 2 doors and no trunk.
Othersideofthemirror@reddit
Id rather walk than take a fashcab
Aggravating-Walk5813@reddit
Johnny Cab looked better
ExtremePowerDrift@reddit
icleanjaxfl@reddit (OP)
I knew there was something familiar, Thank you!
Aranthos-Faroth@reddit
No rear windows in cars always annoys me. Trucks and vans is fine but for some reason cars just feels wrong
postem1@reddit
FlexGopnik@reddit
Are you shitting me? A yugo has more passenger place and cargo area.
Vladimir_Chrootin@reddit
Yugo was my first thought as well. One of the worst cars ever made had a clarity of design which somehow seems to escape the world's richest man.
Kichigai@reddit
That's because the Yugo started out life as a Fiat 128 that they just encheapened for the East European market.
IndoorSurvivalist@reddit
If they are available in my area in the next couple years im getting one.
massivefishes@reddit
you cant buy it thankfully
its just a taxi
IndoorSurvivalist@reddit
Partially incorrect.
keklol69@reddit
They need to use this body / chassis combo with the Plaid specs, and sell it as a coupe you can actually drive.
rowdy-goat@reddit
A 2 seater ride share is so dumb. Lol
SpaceFanatic24@reddit
Just when you thought tesla couldn't make an uglier car
Moist-muff@reddit
Elon is a huge dork
LP030@reddit
he's such a silly little dork
lenzflare@reddit
More like dangerous, racist dork.
Scoutron@reddit
What has he said that’s racist
costafilh0@reddit
Same as the SLATE. Helps to get the price down.
Also, it's a cab, not a royal limo.
What do you want? Carbon fiber? 😂
Such-Assumption6137@reddit
Anyone with a brain would design a taxi to be a slightly higher estate car. Lots of space, plenty of room for baggage and easy to get in and out of.
Or a small mini-van.
neophlegm@reddit
Yup. London Cabs are popular for a reason and they're not exactly attractive: they're roomy boxes with tons of space inside. The exact opposite of these.
grislyfind@reddit
Taller is easier for elderly folks to get into without help. More interior space is useful for luggage or shopping.
Tantric989@reddit
In a cab? Room. This looks uncomfortable to sit in if you're just getting ferried around. I've owned and driven my share of sports cars and generally you trade the uncomfortable position for the sporty look and feel, and driving experience. This is pnce again the Cybertruck, they're making a vehicle without any amount of thinking what a consumer would want. There's a reason the classic NY cab have been the crown vic and now the Camry/Rav4. Because they're all more than ample legroom in the back.
The running joke is the Cybercab has "massive" legroom but yet nobody can seem to give you any dimensions. They refuse to give numbers, just dazzle people with more bullshit.
RocketJohn5@reddit
Every now and then someone in my neighborhood will show up with a brand new Tesla. These are educated decent people. Shocking to me. I remember a time when Tesla owners were the ultimate virtue signalers. I remember when they bragged about living in the future. Living the life of luxury. What a weird timeline we are in.
Such-Assumption6137@reddit
A used Tesla 3 is still a decent choice price-to-range/value. Sure, there are good other choices now (and some even better), but let's not go into hyperboles. It's a decent car for what it nowadays costs on a used market.
PowerRainbows@reddit
What's crazy to me is picking Tesla over any other ev, every time I get in one it's the worst ride experience, hard seats 0 comfort, you feel every little bump on the road, crazy work changing the door lever to a button, and everything else I can't remember atm lol
memelord_andromeda@reddit
low cortisol car😊😊😊😊🥀🥀
Shot-Housing6997@reddit
Why would you make a taxi a 2 door?
Expensive_Archer1662@reddit
Cheaper to make and 90% of rideshares are two pax or fewer
jedadkins@reddit
(allegedly) The original idea was for these to be 100% self driving so 2 doors made some sense but yeah a 4 door sedan would have made much more sense even if they were self driving
FloppyButtholeJelly@reddit
For two people
Discobastard@reddit
Hilarious
Cobraborla777@reddit
Just give it sporty wheels and a paintjob and it becomes a nice coupe !
DefSysteam@reddit
It’s good looking there’s no argument about it!
Tantric989@reddit
Even objectively speaking and ignoring how Musk is a Nazi I think it's not a great looking car. It looks like somehow the amalgamation of 20 other generic looking 2 door sports cars but yet somehow more bland than any of them. Tesla really has sunk.
NotChristina@reddit
Has the back half of a Pontiac G6 and the front of a squintier Dodge intrepid.
pxr555@reddit
I actually like the blandness. Good simple lines, no frills. For a good price it would sell well (maybe not in the US, but surely elsewhere).
Bamres@reddit
I don't think the design is awful, but the sloping rear to front and the high roofline are kinda oddz but make sense for a taxi
Mathinpozani@reddit
no, the front is way to low and where the greenhouse meets the bonnet is too forward.
Looks like ai slop of a sportscar
kristofvictor@reddit
A 2 door cab? Sounds logic
untakenu@reddit
The rear wheels look way too big as is.
One_Damage_9531@reddit
Looks cool
massivefishes@reddit
how
Additional_Moose_862@reddit
surely that's not the most efficient shape for a dedicated taxi vehicle
No_Employ_3649@reddit
Why have a couple for a taxi
blutoxic@reddit
Teslas are getting uglier and uglier. Model S was peak, now the design is just garbage.
MrCrix@reddit
What taxi is a coupe?
BoneZone05@reddit
Honda insight if it sucked harder
L1V1NGD3ADBOI@reddit
Already has the donut installed on the front, nice 😯
Zeddloger@reddit
C
LifeAsNix@reddit
A Taxi? A two door TAXI with NO backseat?!!
Ragnarotico@reddit
Seeing as how he did such a bang up job with (checks notes) platform formerly known as Twitter, Grok, the boring company... you know what, I think I'll just walk.
Ok_Commission_9203@reddit
Elon was on the island, he's a rapist, fk him and that company.
Spider1132@reddit
If they give it a steering wheel and a ludicrous mode, I'd be interested.
kreygmu@reddit
I’d 100% daily drive an EV with this form factor. I don’t want an SUV blob, I want something as light and aerodynamic as possible.
NewUnderstanding4901@reddit
wait why is it a coupe?
KG505@reddit
I saw one in Austin TX this past weekend and thought it was some kinda temu ev car
CoyoteDown@reddit
Don’t all teslas (and all EVs) contain Chinese made motors, batteries, controllers, and control modules?
Insanity-Paranoid@reddit
No. A lot of manufacturing is done here in the US because of how the 7,500 rebate used to work. Basically, the rebate applied only to sales of vehicles that contained enough parts derived from the US.
For early production of the Model S back in 2013, parts such as the traction control system or motors were sourced from Bosch, if I'm not mistaken. Over time, Tesla moved to producing the motors and other systems internally in the US.
Battery cells are, in large part, manufactured in America now, but originally had a lot of their production derived from China. Panasonic produce them here in America.
Almost every part of an EV sold in America is built with parts almost exclusively derived from North America due to the American infrastructure built to try and take advantage of the rebates. Even after the rebates are gone the supply chains still exist. Don't believe me, check the window sticker of some EVs.
ande9393@reddit
It basically is a temu ev
Timmah_Timmah@reddit
My sister bought a Jak; a Temu ev. It is awesome.
ande9393@reddit
I don't doubt its better than a Tesla!
Simple-Bill-5465@reddit
Wat a load of Jack
q_ali_seattle@reddit
This looks awful lot. Like. Failed. Honda prelude
Primary_Channel5427@reddit
I love the profile. I’d be interested if it wasn’t self driving, and under the model 3
Little_Try_6502@reddit
Aren’t all cars plastic now? Are you a bot?
Slater_8868@reddit
Why not just make a Johnny Cab from Total Recall?
Su-37_Terminator@reddit
I saw one a few days ago coming home on the Dan Ryan. Looks cool from the sky and weird from the ground. I would honestly get one if it wouldnt put money in a Nazi's pocket.
Ok_Bookkeeper_2491@reddit
Nah, the elon did not draw that. That has actual curves. That did not look like it was drawn by a four year old. It's a knockoff.
BrokenSmilePhoto@reddit
They just narrowed down the nose and copied the Bentley Continental GT.
whozwat@reddit
Why does it even need to be shaped like a car? That's what gives us the heebiejeebies. Make it an efficient box
3_14159td@reddit
The normal car shape is actually really good for crash safety, aero, maintenance, etc.
GrynaiTaip@reddit
The same company made Cybertruck.
burgonies@reddit
Why do you think that cars are "shaped like a car" and why do you think we settled on that if it's not efficient?
whozwat@reddit
Cars look the way they do because they balance aerodynamics, parking constraints, and legacy design. A robotaxi does not need most of that.
I think the optimal shape is a compact, tall pod with a flat floor, big sliding doors, real headroom, and flexible space for people and luggage. More like a softened box than a sedan. Why? To maximize interior volume and ease of use, then smooth the exterior just enough to keep it efficient... not a car, not a cube. Just a clean, purpose built people mover.
FuzzzyRam@reddit
The most efficient shape is a water droplet - that's why water falls in that shape in air resistance. Car design is always a balance between a teardrop shape, having comfortable room inside, and safety. Your tall box idea has horrible wind dynamics and wastes energy fighting the wind.
Timmah_Timmah@reddit
The Zoosk is a proper robotaxi design.
airfryerfuntime@reddit
Those things are awesome. My fiancée and I used them around Vegas and they were great. They're also super roomy with climate control you can set and Spotify.
Timmah_Timmah@reddit
I was going to go to Vegas specifically to test those out. They looked awesome. I don't know if they're still doing the free thing on the strip, but I would be happy to pay and haven't take me to mountain springs or maybe pahrump. I could live in one of those.
airfryerfuntime@reddit
When we were there 6 months ago, they were still free, but the stops were limited. We had to walk over to Top Golf to be picked up, then it took us to Area 15.
And no, the tires are like actually rubber car tires, but they're huge and narrow. According to Google, they're 185/60-22
Timmah_Timmah@reddit
Well it sounds like you went to the best spots. I love area 15.
airfryerfuntime@reddit
It was really cool, but we were super hungover so we pretty much just did Omega Mart and had a couple drinks when the bar opened. We're planning on going back next time we're in Vegas.
sirmanleypower@reddit
A box isn't efficient if you care about range. It's an EV.
pleasebeherenow@reddit
Crash safety and regulations obviously.
cleverkid@reddit
These are supposed to be 100% autonomous, right?
FuzzzyRam@reddit
Just until Musk admits they're paying Indians to drive them remotely like the "robots"
XmodAlloy@reddit
It looks like a Honda insight that lost its rear wheel fairings.
mr_data_lore@reddit
Why the mismatched wheels?
Coy9ine@reddit
Fuck Elon Musk
LP030@reddit
rockstar_not@reddit
Code name: Nazi cab
ZombiePope@reddit
Just raise one arm to heil it.
NomadicFantastic@reddit
Glad his stuff is trash now. Phew
Dnlx5@reddit
Will it drift?
Corny_Snickers@reddit
Love climbing back behind the front seat on a 2 door.. guys rich enough to flood the market with cheap model 3's and a taxi app like uber and continues to flop ideas
scarr3g@reddit
Plastaxi
Sig_Alert@reddit
Caught one in the wild outside Chicago a few weeks back
airfryerfuntime@reddit
I think these look pretty cool.
pxr555@reddit
I still don't get why they aren't selling these as plain cars. At least in Europe this class of car (for a good price) would sell quite well. I also don't think it's ugly, don't know why people think this (apart from "Elon sucks"). It actually looks like a nice, small car.
model-citizen95@reddit
Steel wheels. He’s running out of money
MattAtPlaton@reddit
The most expensive port-a-potty ever.
Icy-Creme@reddit
They look cold, maybe we should warm them up
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