Former Turkish Defence Minister, openly issuing threats of violence against Christians and Greek Cypriots. What do you think?

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Narrow_Safety_957@reddit

Turks don't change, they never change. Just go to any Turkish subreddit, you don't need to scroll too much to see similar threats and even worse.

I feel like Turkey, taking into account how radicalized their population is, has actually become a serious international danger.

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TempomaybeALZ@reddit

Honestly why does Turkey get 1% of the critic Israel gets for doing the same things?

Turkey conquered half of Cyprus and started settling it how is that different to Israel and the West Bank?

Israel gets a lot of media attention (understandable) but others do the same sh*t and sometimes worse

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If we ignore that the man is a clown, he still has a high place in the government, this is clearly an answer on your president's stupid statement? You are acting like the bully that got slapped back but wasn't expecting it?

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pelererr@reddit

I can found with just 1 google search a lot of samples like that. When u guys gonna stop play the victim?

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Are Greeks occupying a country illegally?

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pelererr@reddit

Half of the ısland ıs turkısh who made this whole island part of the greek government? Wake up from ur wet dreams.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

But it isn't. Noone recognises it as turkish....it's recognised as part of Cyprus.

Let's play a game....find northern Cyprus.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/member-states

You can call yourself a women. But if it looks like a man, smells like a man and has penis like a man it's a man.

You're not a women or Turkish for that matter

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pelererr@reddit

Recognises is political thing not sociological. It doesn’t make all island greek people. When time is change if the wind is on turkey’s side dont be surprised they recognized whole island Turkish.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

So is turkey a political thing or Greece a political thing. Northern Cyprus doesn't exists. Turkish settlers are not cypriots and your passport is toilet paper.

If Greeks were 80% population and on it since 1400 BC. You think anyone will recognise all the island as Turkish?

When Israel started war with Gaza. Countries started recognising Palestine! The reverse happened

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pelererr@reddit

Since 1400 bc? Let’s say it’s like that ok, there was already people in island right? So u guys why occupy island? It’s going first human like that just get over it

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pelererr@reddit

Promises to greeks since 1400 bc

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

It wasn't promised because we were always there.

You're literally like the Jews who can here who removed us.....

How stupid of you.

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pelererr@reddit

“We were always there” thats the Jews word lol. U loosing on every table just shut ur mouth for ur goodness

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

We still exist.... That's the point .

If the original occupants are still around. We can give it them . Find them for me.

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Volaer@reddit

Even that is him repeating Erdogans “one night we will come comment”. Can you offer anything else?

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pelererr@reddit

Yes many things i can offer and thats the point this issue have 2 side. U hypocrites just looking from Turk side.

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CypriotGreek@reddit

Honestly, every time something like this comes out, you get the same response from some people here, “oh, Turks don’t really believe this,” “he’s just one guy,” etc. But he’s not some random idiot, he was the Turkish Defence Minister. These are the people getting elected.

And I’m honestly tired of this “both sides” narrative. It’s not the same. If someone like Mitsotakis or Christodoulides said even half of this, the reaction would be insane. Imagine a Greek leader saying something like that, you think it wouldn’t escalate immediately?

So what do I think? I think one side keeps escalating the rhetoric like this, and then acts surprised when the other side starts making deals with whoever it has to in order to arm itself.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Should have carried out the reasonable talk before the war. Turkey has the means and capabilities to defend their own people. Otherwise, we both know what would have happened to Turks in 1974.

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CypriotGreek@reddit

It’s honestly Orwellian to call threatening and invading another people “defending your own.”

And maybe take your own advice, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. You should be glad we didn’t try to pull what Turkey did in Cyprus on you in the 90s after the fall of communism.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

You should be glad we didn’t try to pull what Turkey did in Cyprus on you in the 90s after the fall of communism.

Actually, you can't say Greece did not try.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshk%C3%ABpi_incident

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CypriotGreek@reddit

Trust me, with the state Albania was in back then, Greece didn’t need covert ops or anything like that. A regular invasion would’ve been enough if that was the intention.

The intervention and invasion, annex and settlement are different....

Ones illegal the other is not. One is stolen the other is not.

If we follow your logic. Turks would have to go back to central Asia as all of anatolia had Greeks on it 1000 years ago....

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KakaoFugl@reddit

The last thing Europe is in need of right now is another war. They won’t let it happen. I do understand your concern, you’re living in this.

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Plutarch_von_Komet@reddit

Oh my God, that's word for word what the comment you answered to criticized. You couldn't even avoid saying "both sides"

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CypriotGreek@reddit

jsawyer_@reddit

"And the settlers too."

gamberro@reddit

Ultra-nationalism is a lot easier if you constantly ignore or justify crimes against humanity like the genocides of Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians. Would there be this ultranationalist nonsense in Turkey today if people were taught about the genocides modern Turkey was founded on?

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suvarimiralay@reddit

Modern Turkey founded on saving Turkish people from genocide like they encountered in Balkans...

Just search "Turkish Independence War" or "Asia minor campaing".

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PotentialBass3073@reddit

Turkish independence war? From what, their own empire?

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VisibleReport5008@reddit

check the sevr map and see from what. Also from the ottomans in some way yes.

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Deep-Ad4183@reddit

Sometimes you remember that you’re an Ottoman, and sometimes you remember that you’re Turkish.

Greek genocides

You mean this? :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

It is not genocide. If it is, Greece did genocide to Turks also.

The expulsion of Armenians from Anatolia by the Ottomans certainly significantly reduced the threat from the east during the War of Independence. However, I feel absolutely no remorse about this. This was the response to a group that had begun a genocide against the Turks. Let it be them, rather than us.

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Saxumsium@reddit

Yes, that makes it okay.

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Own-Dependent8834@reddit

Dunno about that bud. Germany acknowledged the Holocaust and since then they still continue to support genocides.

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Be conquered or conquer. It’s really that simple. The west likes to spin the narrative that they’re do gooders. They’re not.

The Greeks attempted to fight for sovereignty and lost. That’s the reality. Unfortunately innocent people died on both sides.

The Armenians attempted to fight for sovereignty and lost. That’s the reality. Unfortunately innocent people died on both sides. Yes, the Armenians experienced genocide at the hands of ottoman officers. Maybe one day modern Turkey will recognize this.

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SOHONEYSAME@reddit

sure.

the same applies for the Greek islands.

we liberated them, militarily.

the Turks left for Turkey.

they're, now, internationally recognized part of Greece.

(tell ur government, & ur people, to stop crying & "claiming" them).

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suvarimiralay@reddit

We liberated Northern Cyprus, militarily.

tell ur government, & ur people, to accept this, stop crying, & stop "claiming" them.

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Trick-Ad-7158@reddit

No you didn't. You sign a treaty to be a protector of Cyprus. You violated that treaty by invading twice and occupying the land since 1974. No country in the world regognise the puppet land Turkey occupies. Why don't you go to the UN as well to tell all the countries to stop crying and accept the illegal occupation?

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suvarimiralay@reddit

Lmao. It is not other countries business and we don't care about their recignization. If they recognise, well. If they don't, no problem. Northern Cyprus is ours.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

The mindset of a murderer before he kills his victims. Thanks for confirming.

You can't take and kill what you want right?

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Gloomy-Potato6280@reddit

Well, you defeated us militarily and the islands are now yours, but we're going to defeat you and take them back.

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Plutarch_von_Komet@reddit

Really? You are not even going to say the "both sides" bull? Just straight to "we will kill you and take what you own"?

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

What a sad world to think morality doesn't exist. This wasn't 1921, this was 1974, the age of law and human rights.

It's ok to for your mother to be raped as they conquered and won is it?

That's what happened to 3000 little girls in Cyprus.

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Gloomy-Potato6280@reddit

The Turks didn’t rape anyone in Cyprus; even if they did, present your evidence. If you have no evidence, shut your mouth. But the Greeks carried out the Bloody Christmas—we will never forget it.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Bloody Christmas was on both sides you know?

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/08/06/archives/villagers-driven-from-cyprus-homes-charge-murder-and-rape-by-turks.html

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/FEMM-CR-774381_EN.pdf

A key point for the speakers was to acknowledge that it has been documented that the use of rape in the aftermath of the invasion was not a random or isolated act, but rather used as a strategic weapon of intimidation and ethnic cleansing, as it was used on Greek Cypriots. They categorized the 1974 war consequences on women in the following ways: 1. Refugee women – Lost property and homes; many also lost their dowries, affecting their future prospects, including marriage. 2. Widows and women who lost husbands and/or family members – Forced to raise children alone; often unable to express personal grief or trauma because others had died and they were expected to remain strong. 3. Women with missing husbands/fiancés – Trapped in uncertainty, unable to mourn or move on with life; any attempt to rebuild seen as betrayal. 4. Enclaved women – Remained in occupied areas and suffered repeated rapes, humiliation, and intimidation; endured the decline of Greek Cypriot presence in their villages. 5. Raped women – Often never disclosed the assault, not even to their husbands; lived in silence and secrecy. Some were sent abroad by their families due to shame and stigma.

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herhangibirperson@reddit

On a daily basis Greeks deny Turkish heritage, deny Turkish history, deny Turkish culture believe in racial purity "you are all Greek", but also call Turks Mongol invaders, claim Istanbul is stolen land, call Turks barbarians, support PKK against Turks

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Trick-Ad-7158@reddit

Easy there with the propaganda mate. Guarantor doesn't mean to occupy a country forever. Not a single country recognise the puppet occupied land you hold in Cyprus. Turkey lost so much because of that. Why still occupying it?

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pariria@reddit

The 1947 Paris Peace Treaty, under which Italy ceded the Dodecanese Islands to Greece after World War II. It required that those islands “shall be and shall remain demilitarized.” This includes islands such as Rhodes, Kos, Leros, and Kastellorizo. Italy was the prior sovereign over those islands, so the transfer to Greece came through that treaty. It's Italy not Turkey. If Italy doesn't give a f*ck about it so should Turkey. The reason Turkey keeps talking about it is because they want to repeat the invasion they did in Cyprus in 1974. Why would any country be so adamant about the demilitarision of neighbouring islands? 2+2=4. Oh by the way you forget about something called casus Belli.

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KakaoFugl@reddit

Why do Greeks care so much about Cyprus anyway? Aren’t they Cypriots?

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hunichii@reddit

According to the agreements you've signed, you shouldn't be placing weapons and soldiers on those islands

True, as per the Laussane treaty. The militarized islands (those closest to Turkey) were those that were added to Greece with the Treaty of Paris, a treaty which Turkey wasn't a part of and thus never signed. So the Laussane Treaty does not apply to them.

Alternatively, your government officials could consider not making a hobby out of threatening Greek territory every Tuesday or whenever they get bored, so they would not give Greece a reason to militarize and arm the islands in question. A much more efficient and serene solution.

We could suddenly decide to bomb islands that shouldn't have anything on them

The stupidest strategy you could conjure, then you give Greece an opportunity to invoke NATO Article 5 and have a full blown out war with NATO just because you were petty. And now, besides create bloody wars for all sides involved, you also create more power vacuums in the Near East area and allow Israel and Russia to intervene EVEN MORE than they already do. Wonderful.

By the way, our presence in Cyprus is legal. We were a guarantor country and intervened when necessary.

Certainly you did. That's why you also established a puppet state in the same vein of the Luhansk and Donetsk Republics in Eastern Ukraine that suddenly popped up when Russia invaded in 2014. And funnily enough, the puppet state in question saw very little actual development aside night clubs and casinos, all meant to lauder money. And also why the puppet state gladly offers its real estate territory to be bought by Israelis. Yup. You care so deeply for the livelihoods of Turkish Cypriots, it shows.

And before you make up shit, I do not believe Greece was innocent at all in the Cypriot conflict, especially considering the Greek regime at the time. I believe that Cyprus' sovereignty should only be determined by Cypriots themselves regardless of their ethnicity. All I'm pointing out are the holes in your arguments and the discrepancies.

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RecentOrganization41@reddit

our presence in Cyprus is legal.

„I said it’s legal so it is.“ The rest of the word sadly disagrees.

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LetRevolutionary271@reddit

"Genocide good because treaty"

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Elmalukat@reddit

Your islands militarizing means nothing. They produce some of the most advanced uavs in the world, tanks, and hypersonic missiles while you rely on whatever you can buy with a broken economy.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Didn't Greece start the war in Cyprus?

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cbk1992@reddit

GCs and TCs need the British, Turkey and us (Greece) out of there country. They’ve lived together for longer than they’ve been separate. Outside forces like the Erdogan loser saying provocative garbage have always been the problem.

Before my Turkish friends jump on this comment, meddling isn’t an exclusively Turkish trait. Greece meddling with the Greek Cypriots historically led to extreme problems on the island. Today the Republic is a completely independent country. I can’t say the same for the TRNC.

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CypriotGreek@reddit

Honestly, I get the sentiment, but as a Greek/Cypriot, I don’t agree with lumping Greece in with Britain and Turkey. It’s just not the same.

You can’t compare a small Greek contingent, around a thousand troops, to tens of thousands of Turkish soldiers in the north, or to the British bases. That’s not even in the same category.

And kurds…they are nobodys ally

Imagine a leader such a thing. It's a threat of war on a native population who is already illegally occupied. Get a grip. The archbishop is factual in his statements.

131 countries agree with him.

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Porphyres@reddit

No such government exists.

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Punkmo16@reddit

Yeah, thanks to Turkey, not anymore and will not.

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Flat_Middle8414@reddit

Turkey illegally invaded and occupied us and youre ceying about an embargo

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Cool. Meanwhile Turkey:

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It's not comparable. If you look at history of Cyprus. Ones an occupying force. For every 1 Turk killed, 30 Greeks were killed.

Do you have 30 grandma?

They raped your mother in 1571?

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Is that what you tell your mother if she gets raped?

Just because you're weaker doesn't mean you're right?

The conflict was sparked by ottoman occupation in 1571 who slaughtered 20,000 when they arrived.

Your comment is an example of why Turks counter react the way they do.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

They react because they live in a country where 80% is hyper nationalist. They have limited free press and highly controlled media.

The jury has already decided

If 131 people say you're a criminal. The only person that objects of the criminal. What would happen in court? They go to prison.

That's the international community 131 see the invasion of Cyprus as illegal. Only the criminal does not.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Man, you are so pathetic i already feel pity.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Because you've been defeated through logic.

My apologies.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Logic of middle ages, just sad.

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Green-Chocolate-2315@reddit

Maan even in Syria under the "Islamist" rule the christians are celebrating their Easter and don't hear such hateful rhetoric! This nastiness is specific to turks.

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More_Ad_5142@reddit

No, he threatened no violence towards Greek Cypriots or their territory. He meant if you try to celebrate Easter in the North, it will be your last Easter (meaning Turks will fight you if you attack the North). This was in response to some GCs firing ammunition towards the North during Easter celebrations. Your header sounds like he gratuitously threatened violence towards Greek Cypriots or the South.

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cbk1992@reddit

Most Greek Cypriot are Eastern Orthodox, our Easter is next weekend. Any more Erdogan provocations to repeat?

Next weekend when we throw firecrackers to celebrate Easter are you going to say that was an M-16?

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Gloomy-Potato6280@reddit

The Turks have been on the historical stage since long before 800 AD; I think you’re a bit ignorant on this subject. Yes, the Greeks have been living on the island for a very long time, but they haven’t been there from the very beginning. Don’t worry—since no one can take Northern Cyprus away from us, we’ll live there just as long as the Greeks, and that way we’ll be on equal footing, right?

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Sure in 3000 years, your settlers can be on an equal footing.... You'll self implode by then. Hellenism has a way of persisting.

You know this is year 1974, not 1500 ad. You cant just throw people out their homes and ethnically cleanse. Have we not moved passed that? Ghenkis khan is not pretty.

The bombing of the girls school in Iran is disgusting.

The Gaza bombing is disgusting

The ethnic cleansing of 180k Greeks in north is disgusting.

800 ad is first evidence of any form of Turkic writing.

Beginning means nothing, those civilisations don't exist anymore.

If Greek cypriots all got hit by meteor, it's all yours.

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More_Ad_5142@reddit

Dawn of human history? lol. Greeks were colonizers in Cyprus at some point, too. And Turkish Cypriots are on the island for 5 centuries. It’s just as much as their island.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Since dawn of civilisation almost 1400 BC.

https://spzh.eu/en/news/92206-archbishop-of-cyprus-again-says-the-island-is-under-turkish-occupation

Gloomy-Potato6280@reddit

We don’t care whether the people in Southern Cyprus want us or not is there any evidence to suggest that the people in the north don’t want us, or should we just assume you’re making it up?

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Care to provide a link to southern Cyprus or are you a low iq consumer of propoganda?

It's their country. They were 80% of population in north.

psofare@reddit

What do you think Trump will say about him?

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vanity-flair83@reddit

About Erdogon?...he'd probably encourage Turkey to do what it feels necessary, EXCEPT for the fact he would probably be compelled to support the Greeks, being a "fellow Christian" ( insert inverted Bible pic) of sorts

However it turns out, it will surely be THE GREATEST DEAL AMERICA HAS EVER MADE IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA

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pelererr@reddit

If u are not thinking atack to north part then how is this can be threat for u?

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

The north is literally an occupied land that's was Christian celebrating Easter for 2000 years . ....

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Vestout@reddit

And before 2000 years, what about the pagans? Oh right you converted or killed them to extinction completely so today there's no one to complain. Maybe the Ottomans should've wiped off Christians completely as well, that was their mistake.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

I'm glad you advocate for genocide. The problem was unlike Greeks who developed cities, and kept civilisation going through achievement. Turks required slavery and taxes and blood tax to keep theirs going. You needed us due to the style of your empire. You needed a constant flow of tax and enslaved women to sell in markets.

This is a shocking fact... In all of anatolia, Cyprus or Greece not a single city founded by Turks.....not one. how is that possible after 1000 years. Whist theres hundreds founded by Greeks. Byzantines outlawed slavery by 7th century, you were selling them into the 20th.....

You couldn't eradicate us because you needed to leach off someone to keep your empire going.

You have additive civilisations like Greeks, Romans, byzantines, Egyptians, phoencian

You have subtractive civilisations like ottomans, Nazis, Isis and ghengis khan.

These ignorant shitbags can't commentate on Turkish politics beyond sensationalist headlines to propogate Turcophobia.

AKP and its Islamist lackeys never had or have anything to do with "ultranationalism" or even any nationalism beyond populist rhetorical use for electoral gain, and AKP bends into any shape it needs to during elections anyway. Actual nationalists and secular nationalists more specifically are overwhelmingly anti-AKP and overwhelmingly Kemalist.

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ASharpLife@reddit

And then people are surprised why Cyprus, Israel and Greece cooperate militarily so much... Hate is trending

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Lyric_Oak@reddit

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Gloomy-Potato6280@reddit

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVeqdGmiktC/

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geoponos@reddit

Allow me to translate this to you.

At the site you gave me they translated it like this:

"Turkey has a very large military force in the occupied territories of Northern Cyprus. There are currently over 40,000 soldiers there. Perhaps these events could be a good opportunity for them to withdraw from the island..."

He never said "occupied territories" and he never said "Perhaps these events", which changed the whole meaning of what you are saying.

And yes. They should be withdrawn. They have no job there other than bullying the Cypriots.

Don't get your news from Turkish outlets. Go outside.

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Gloomy-Potato6280@reddit

No one’s leaving Cyprus—enjoy yourself in the south, but don’t even think about crossing over to the north and touching our flag. I think the last person who tried that ended up with a few extra holes in their body.

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geoponos@reddit

Classic Turkey reaction. Like the bird is gullible.

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psyspin13@reddit

Let him hallucinate

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suvarimiralay@reddit

You guys want to commit genocide aganist Turkish cypriots. You tried it also.

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suvarimiralay@reddit

In 20 years 400 gcyp and 500 tcyp were killed.

Yeah, you claim i'm delusional.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Yes indeed. That's the real numbers of the violence between 1960 and 1974.

It's democracy in Cyprus. We have free press. Something you lack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Cyprus

Yes, and the only reason we are there is because of the atrocities committed by the EOKA scum

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giallonero21@reddit

So I suppose Turkey wouldn't mess with the Republic of Cyprus if they were to attack Northern Cyprus and just... take it? Correct?

Worried-Owl-9198@reddit

No, it absolutely concerns us. You massacred Turks in those places, and now you’re shamelessly arguing with me like nothing ever happened. Sit back and accept your destiny

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

In 20 years 500 tcyp, 400 gcyp killed.

In 1974 in 2 weeks. 3000 raped by Turkish military, 2500 killed, 180,000 forcibly removed form homes

Are you no embarrassed?

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Worried-Owl-9198@reddit

Between 1963 and 1974 in Cyprus, the approximately 2,000 civilians murdered and the 1,200 Turkish soldiers and Mujahideen who fell during the 1974 Operation are not just data, unlike what you suggest, but precious lives that will never return; those who started this bloody process surely pay the price, and if we hadn't intervened, who knows what kind of atrocities you would have continued to commit

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Source for 2000 murdered. Made a claim, back it up.

I kind of feel sorry for you. Because you're so wrong yet you speak with such convictions. What does raping 3000 little girls have to do with preventing attrocites?

Why do thousands of Turkish cypriots live in the republic of Cyprus willingly? Thousands..... Yet 0 Greeks in north when they're 80% population.

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Yarrrak31@reddit

If it's your country come and do something about this. If you can't then it's not your country

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Its like a child who knows it's not theirs so they paint a flag on the mountain. It's so embarrassing. We don't need flags to show off stolen land.

We cant do anything about it as Turks are so many and so populace and were not low iq suicidal. We don't want to be raped again by barbaric Turkish soldiers. We are still looking for 1000 missing cypriots.

But Allah will punish you so don't worry.

Your punishment is your ruined economy.

You're forever unrecognised.

Are banning TCs, having a puppet state, laundering money, moving your casino and whorehouse business also due to these eoka scum

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Ujemegaz@reddit

You are right, yet you get downvoted 😂

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Worried-Owl-9198@reddit

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The Treaty of Guarantee was designed to preserve bi-communal consociationalism and independent state of the Republic of Cyprus. Cyprus and the guarantor powers (the United Kingdom, Turkey and Greece) promised to prohibit the promotion of "either the union of the Republic of Cyprus with any other State, or the partition of the Island".

Northern cyprus is illegal for it is partitioned But tell me who wanted to unify island with some other country and almost succeeded? The ones whom cypriot greeks still admire and teach of.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Yes so why did you invade AFTER the junta fell and democracy restored?

You invaded the republic not eoka not the junta and committed mass war crimes outnumbering the attrocities by eoka by 3x.

Then unbelievably settled the place into stolen homes.

I mean seriously?

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mufurber@reddit

how could we be sure that they were going to be safe after everything that happened

and where did you got the 3x warcrimes from

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Because thousand of Turkish cypriots literally live in the republic willingly but not a single greek in north despite being 80% population.

You know Cyprus is modern highly income, high developed country... It's not Syria. There was never even that much violence even before 1974.

In 20 years 500 tcyp, 400 gcyp killed.... Look it up. Turks kill more Kurds in 1 day!

dumandPC@reddit

Your comrades-in-arms died without forgiving you. You're the man who has earned the curse of your comrades

Critical_Parking_671@reddit

It is according to international law and very country in world apart from turkey... The people who stole it.

Why lie?

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suvarimiralay@reddit

international law

Lol.

Is there an army that enforces international law? No. If there were, then it wouldn't be called "international law," but rather the law of the nation to which the army belongs.

So, term of "international law" is nonsense.

Let me make it for you. Greeks tried massacre to Turks, Turkish Armed forces came to island and defeated the genociders and controlled Northern part of Cyprus. Greeks crying about this but Northern Cyprus will remain Turk.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

We are passed the era on conquest and rape. Human rights and international law was violated in Cyprus. That's why no-one recognises you. That's your punishment. You're a pariah state, harmed you prosperity and standing for almost 50 years.

Links for genocide?

I see 400 dead gcyp and 500 tcyp in 20 years. Must be worlds worst genocide where almost an equal number of perpetrators died too.....

Then Turks came and killed 2500 in 2 weeks.....

status-quo favours them, (as things stand).

so.

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MesopotamianLion01@reddit

Actually the Greeks should have taken the Annan Plan. They didnt, and now they complain. Then Erdogan tried to sabotage any more attempt, which didnt work. I would say to both sides. Instead of looking at the past one should look more to the future. The right conditions are there now, and should not be lost.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

Why didn't they take the plan?

All settlers stay

Turkish military stay

Turks get full veto

Greeks pay for it all

Nothing but enslavement of Cypriots get out of here.

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MesopotamianLion01@reddit

If you want to go further back. The Greeks wanted to unify with Greece also. Look nobody is gonna be happy. But you have to be pragmatic and realistic. Today is a better day for a deal than ever.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

The ensis and junta collapsed before you even invaded. You invaded after it.

I believe that Turkiye has to get the political spectrum in order. For such a large and important country petty differences used by politicians could lead to some very nasty situations in the future. People have to understand that promoting ideas of eliminating others in a society or going forward and tolerating extremely nationalistic ideas and fighting for some lands won't make a country greater, it will only make it worse.

SadMood6304@reddit

"DreamING", "It WILL BE" that sounds pretty much Future Continuous in English grammar. So no he definitely doesn't talk for the past but for the future

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Commercial_Leek6987@reddit

Are you thick or something? It is referring to the “bloody easter” when greek cypriots tried to ethnically cleanse the turkish populaton on the island. Not easter in general.

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Critical_Parking_671@reddit

You killed 5x more people in the invasion than all Turk deaths in 10 years in Cyprus.

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TheCharalampos@reddit

Lol. Lmao.

Its just perfomance for political support, it's lame.

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Always someone else’s fault, classic Erdogan supporter.
Southern Cyprus doesn’t exist, it’s the Republic of Cyprus.

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notnotnotnotgolifa@reddit

Bro has been at the same lines for 60 years