Why does my performance feel worse/the same?
Posted by Demoholics@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 20 comments
I recently bought a pc with a rtx 3080 and i9 11900kf and 32gb ddr4 ram at 3200mhz and my other pc is a i9 9900k and 4060ti with 32gb of ddr4 ram at 3200mhz also. I assumed the new pc would be better but I’m getting around the same fps in cs2 and same with Fortnite but in game it even feels worse and a little lower fps. I have xmp on both pcs and the temps are fine on both aswell. My gpu usage on my new pc is only about 30-50% and cpu always stays around 35. I feel like I could get more fps but my gpu utilization doesn’t want to go higher, is my cpu bottlenecking? Or what may the issue be?
q123459@reddit
do you have all video related settings the same on both computers?
resizable bar, core isolation, optimization for windowed games, hags, vrr
do you have the same windows 11 version on both computers - 25h2, and latest gpu driver?
do you have same reflex and vrr setting in games, fullscreen mode (non windowed), same settings for vsync and framelimiter in nvidia app?
make sure intel adaptive boost is on at 11900k
if 11900k motherboard is from asus try with mce on (asus MultiCore Enhancement)
try without Thermal Velocity Boost at 11900k ( "Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 boosts the two fastest cores based on workload, while TVB provides an additional 100-200MHz boost 5,3 ghz one core, 4,8-5,1 ghz all cores, solely dependent on the CPU remaining <70c " ; " While marketed as a boost feature, TVB actually throttles the CPU speed down by 100 MHz once it hits certain temperatures typically 65с 70с " )
run cpuz benchmark on both pc and monitor Core Effective Clock with hwinfo64, monitor real core multipliers,
check limit reasons in throttlestop
check ram latency with aida64, it must be below 80ns
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
Appreciate the knowledge and help, I have everything the same in terms of basic stuff like windows versions and NVIDIA app features but unfortunately it’s not an Asus mobo otherwise I would try that. But I’m gonna look more into ram latency now too.
Narrow-Prompt-4626@reddit
Your peak single core usage matters here, overall cpu usage is nothing much to go by. Was your 9900k overclocked? An OC'd 9900k is comparable/beats an 11900kf, they are that close
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
The 9900k was not because just doing the basic bios overclock setting would cause it to crash during games after like an hour and a half of gaming
Narrow-Prompt-4626@reddit
Is your 11900k cooler equal to or worse than the 9900k? It has a higher tdp. It may not be able to hold boost as long. You do still need to look at single core usage to properly analyze this
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
The 11900k has better cooling in terms of the actual cooler since it’s an aio cooler, airflow may be a little worse but nothing major
Narrow-Prompt-4626@reddit
Check your passmark ratings and make sure it is performing similarly to others (you may score slightly lower than average without an OC, that's normal). If nothing is off there then you can probably just confirm a core is maxing out.
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
Sounds good thank you, is there anything I could do about that or that is just how a mid tier build works?
Narrow-Prompt-4626@reddit
Just that most people who are overclocking are submitting scores to either flex or see how much improvement they're getting, it's a biased data sample. They might also have mobos better for overclocking
If you have an aio you should be able to get a pretty nice overclock out of it and see consistent improvement over your last build
John_Mat8882@reddit
An i9 11900KF at 35°C is not even in idle. The thing has 250w without just power limits, I've seen mine (that isn't even a I SKU) at 103 BLCK pull the likes of 300w, no way it can stay there while gaming unless that new PC has a chiller or something..
You either are using wrong monitoring software (use hwinfo64) or given your issues, the CPU isn't boosting at all if those 35C are true. Reset the motherboard bios, check that the motherboard is a beefy one with proper VRMs that should be cool. The same goes for the PSU..
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
35% utilization not temperature, the temp was like 65c or something
John_Mat8882@reddit
Ok that's better the 35% utilization in certain games depends on the number of threads that they use, older titles or F2P generally can't use more than 2/4 threads that's why you see 35%, also 65C is okay for a similar load
TheRogueJedi66@reddit
why did you buy it lol?
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
Thought it would be slightly better ig
Hungry_Reception_724@reddit
Which one is is the newer PC? GPU is older and faster and on the other the GPU is newer and slower ...
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
I did make sure they are running at 3200mhz and yeah I kinda thought that since total usage of cpu is probably 30-50% but you’re prob right saying that a couple cores may be maxed. I tried to put in the ram from the old pc into this one and it wasn’t working for some reason but I figured they are nearly identical so shouldn’t make a big difference if it worked anyway
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
The new one is the 3080
OkSystem455@reddit
Is VSync on?
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
No vsync, and for testing purposes uncapped fps to see max frames I could get/gpu utilization
Demoholics@reddit (OP)
No vsync, and for testing purposes uncapped fps to see max frames I could get/gpu utilization