Is anyone even staying onsite for the whole work day anymore?

Posted by sys_admin321@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 413 comments

I go into the office 1 day a week, 4 days remote. I’ll get in around 11am, go to lunch from 11:30 - 1:00 and leave at 3:00 to beat the traffic home. Doesn’t seem like a lot of people are staying the whole day anymore. I’ll login earlier in the morning for a bit before heading in. Anyone else notice this?

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macmanca@reddit

Here all day 10hrs a day 4 days a week. Not an option to work from home in our environment.

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Neat_Welcome6203@reddit

4x10 gang rise up

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No_Dog9530@reddit

4X10 is better.ill rather have three continuous days of holiday compared to having to sit in Traffic one extra day.

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Lurksome-Lurker@reddit

Only if the entire company is 4x10. If not then payroll likes to fuck with you. They play games like, “Oh memorial day is 8 hours of holiday time. Guess you need to come in for 2 hours or take time off to have the day off.”

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dreniarb@reddit

What we do is we revert to 8 hour days. So we get 8 for the holiday, then only have to work 8 hours the rest of the days vs 10 hours like normal. most of the time it works out in our favor but sometimes the holiday doesn't fall on our regular day off and we have to work it.

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AwalkertheITguy@reddit

How is a holiday that encompasses a 24 hour period suddenly 8 hours? Wild!!!

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mlong35@reddit

Accounting essentially. If the company isn’t all 4x10 and all systems align to that then it’s 5x8 and an 8 hour holiday. So it messes up the system. Silly.

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Sad-Professor-4053@reddit

I mean we run into this and it does suck, we give 3 options. PTO, come in for a partial on the 5th day (no one takes) or just work 2 hours longer over the 3 days you do work (most people take)

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tk42967@reddit

I'd kill to do four 10's. I even offered to make my extra day off Wed so that I was still here on Monday & Friday. Currently, we're in office 4 days a week, with one WFH. We also can go to a secondary site and hotel one day a week. Secondary site is about the same distance from my house as my office. No point in going there unless I have to. The 3rd site of our triangle is a mile and a half from my house, but they won't approve me hoteling there.

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mtnfreek@reddit

That’s so dumb! Can I kick management in the crotch for you?!

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tk42967@reddit

I doubt anything will change. They just brough in a new CEO who folded IT under Finance.

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Stonewalled9999@reddit

I work 5 or 6 10s already I'd like 4x10

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zuctronic@reddit

I'd take Wednesday off so I never have to spend more than two days in the office at a time.

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LenR-redit@reddit

That would be like having 2 Mondays

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Tony_Chutch@reddit

Did this for a year during Covid. Employer offered Covid days so I spread it out throughout the year.

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ncc74656m@reddit

I've told people outright that if I'm sick on a Wednesday, and only a Wednesday, I'll be absolutely faking it bc it's like a mini weekend.

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Frothyleet@reddit

God I want this so bad. Having a day off in the middle of the week would be so amazing for breaking up your work days, and give you a chance to get personal stuff done so that your weekends are actually usable for relaxing instead of being the blowoff valve for chores you can't knock out after work.

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fizzlefist@reddit

A-fuckin-men

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Centimane@reddit

Not a huge factor when working from home though - no traffic either way.

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topazsparrow@reddit

man I miss that shift. That was peak existence.

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farva_06@reddit

Not only do I get 4x10s, but I alternate my weeks to where I get a 4-day weekend every other week. That and my short commute is pretty much the only reasons I haven't left this job.

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WorthPlease@reddit

I hate that at an old job and it was great, I had everyday Tuesday off to recover from the hell that was Mondays there. Now Im back to 5x8 but full remote. The closest office to me is 1200 miles away.

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Demonholysword@reddit

I wish i had this shift. I hate 5 day work weeks

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SandeeBelarus@reddit

Nice. Had to do that in the past when I was supporting SCADA and OT environments. Actuall had 3 dimensional work friends.

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mkinstl1@reddit

Better than 4 dimensional work friends I guess.

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Frothyleet@reddit

I dunno. It'd be nice to have friends supporting me before I even met them.

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mkinstl1@reddit

That’s true, but what if they only to think to support you long after you are dead?

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Frothyleet@reddit

They say that every person dies twice - once when their heart stops beating, and a second time when the last memory of them fades. Perhaps, in a sense, those friends deliver you immortality?

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mkinstl1@reddit

True. To be fair, in order for the Christian God to be omniscient, They must also transcend time. Exactly what you are saying.

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ZOMBOY@reddit

I’m not high enough for this rn

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WWGHIAFTC@reddit

My org is in talks to move to a 32hr 4 day workweek. Hope it happens. I'm worthless after 6 hours, 10 hour days would just be a waste for me.

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derpman86@reddit

I know the shorter work week won't happen for Me but I get to work from home. I am the same though, 6 hours is usually my peak and there are some studies that confirm this too. Obviously people can do more hours productively but not constantly. I could not do a 10 hour day, more often than not the last hour of my day I am clock watching unless there is a tiny job I can knock off or someone bails me up.

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ycnz@reddit

*Everyone* is relatively worthless well before 6 hours. It's not remotely a secret.

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WWGHIAFTC@reddit

Oh I know. At least in the first 6 hours I can spread out my ~~4~~ 2 hours of work without feeling completely dead.

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Narcoleptic_247@reddit

Do they get to stop providing insurance if they do that?

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WWGHIAFTC@reddit

no, 30hr average is still in effect. Full benefits.

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tdhuck@reddit

Would like to see this start to become the norm. 40 hours is too much. Most of the time people drag their projects/duties/etc to 40 hours to look busy all week.

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WWGHIAFTC@reddit

Several other regional orgs in the same industry have had success for the past 2 years, so we're planning to match them. 25% pay increase for hourly workers so they get the same pay as before in less time, same salary for salaried workers. I'm so damn excited, but don't want to get my hopes up either. It is so strange how there are people actually against something like this when we don't do sales, or manufacturing, or public facing services, or b2b. 5x8 simply doesn't matter. And the proof is in the results over the past 10+ years of people doing it. Increased or equal productivity, increases morale, increases staff retention, lower recruiting costs/time, etc etc. It's non-stop winning all around.

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WorldlinessUsual4528@reddit

Any org that actually does this, is going to have great, loyal employees. Giving everyone a pay increase while improving work/home balance? People will be fighting for a position. Our org tends to follow trends so hopefully more companies start doing this so we'll get on board too.

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tdhuck@reddit

Bingo. If you create an environment where people have a good attitude/morale and want to stay to keep perks/benefits/etc then everyone wins. Less time training new hires because people will be staying put. That's the way I see it.

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WorldlinessUsual4528@reddit

Yep. It takes a year to get a new employee trained for the position I manage. 2 years before they can be completely on their own without constant oversight. COVID was rough since we hired a few new positions and lost a few during the same time. I was basically training *someone* for almost 5 years and it is such a time sink, and incredibly stressful. That's part of why my company will change to follow trends because they at least recognize they will absolutely lose good employees if they don't. Pre COVID, there was no WFH, even though the majority of positions could have been. But now that many employers are still WFH, they know they can't force an RTO. If they implemented this, I can't imagine too many people would voluntarily leave anytime soon (unless it of course becomes the new minimum standard everywhere like WFH has).

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J-VV-R@reddit

> My org is in talks to move to a 32hr 4 day workweek. Hope it happens. I have noticed this a lot more in the last few years of contract work on my side. I know of two organizations that are in the Dev/Ops and consulting IT side that only do 4 day weeks at 30/32 hours. To be fair, both mainly deal with government contracts and clients, which makes it easier to completely scrap the Friday.

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Cookie1990@reddit

What's your location, do you use Linux or proxmox, and are you hiring?

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anonymousITCoward@reddit

4.10 nice... i miss those days... i'm currently 5.10 =( stupid salary exempt status

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Tymanthius@reddit

My favorite shift ever (not IT tho) was 4x10's, MTu,ThF. It was AWESOME.

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olsonryan99@reddit

4x10 gotta be the best thing that I ever stumbled upon. My family and I love it so much.

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willwilson82@reddit

4 x 9 On site, 30 minute lunch.

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Scientist_ShadySide@reddit

Same here, 4x10.

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massiv3troll@reddit

I wish that they'd move us to 4x10s. I'm doing 5x8s hybrid now after years of 5x8's remote.

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ryanmj26@reddit

Same.

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TeramindTeam@reddit

Honestly, it really depends on the company culture and the specific role, I think. At my last job, it was pretty common for people to come and go as they pleased, as long as the work got done and meetings were attended. But then I moved to my current place, and it's much more of a traditional 9-to-5, in-the-office vibe, even though we have the option to WFH a couple days. Ngl, I miss the flexibility sometimes.

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lesstoffpers@reddit

It's definitely a trend, for sure. At my old place, we went to a hybrid model where folks could choose their days, and honestly, most people were doing exactly what you described. A few core people stayed all day, but the majority came in for a few hours, hit a meeting or two, and then bailed. Ngl, it made the office feel kinda dead most days. I think it's just the new normal for a lot of companies now.

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brokentr0jan@reddit

I personally WFH one day a week, full remote is just not for me. I can’t focus or be productive at home

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dreniarb@reddit

I can work from home if need be (i'm just not feeling well, but can sit at a laptop and use the phone) but i'm no where near as productive. Home means a single 17 inch laptop screen and no number pad (thank you Dell for removing it from the Precision line of laptops) - at the office it's a full keyboard, 3x 32" monitors, faster internet, and an isolated office. Home also means pets that don't understand that I'm working and usually family members that don't quite understand it either. I get more done at the office.

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mad_redhatter@reddit

You could buy a docking station setup for home...

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dreniarb@reddit

i have a usb number pad for the times when i do want to use one but it's not convenient at all. especially when I'm sitting in my recliner and when I already have a trackball off to the side. what's frustrating is there is plenty of real estate for the number pad - it's a 17" laptop after all. They just chose not to put one on this model. Precision 5770.

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iB83gbRo@reddit

> 17 inch laptop screen and no number pad (thank you Dell for removing it from the Precision line of laptops) Which model? I've never seen a Precision laptop larger than 14" that doesn't have a numpad.

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dreniarb@reddit

Me neither! So I didn't pay attention to the pictures when I ordered the laptop. Just the specs. Precision 5770 [https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Precision-5760-Mobile-Workstation/dp/B09NRTKBJ6](https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Precision-5760-Mobile-Workstation/dp/B09NRTKBJ6) I was pissed at myself when I realized it. Other than the lack of a number pad it's a great laptop. But I hate having to use a separate usb number pad.

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albaMP4@reddit

Are you in the US? I’ll buy you a keyboard and mouse.

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its_all_one_electron@reddit

Same. I can't focus at home. It's worse than working because it's like I've spent a full day working in terms of mental energy but it's mostly spent on guilt and I've got nothing to show for it. In the office I work great...for about 4 hours. Then comes the need for siesta. I can't resist it. I get so tired around 2, I can barely keep my head up or my eyes open. At the office I have to push through it which is pure torture. Daily. So I alternate between these two hells.

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ashy343@reddit

I feel exactly the same!

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jake04-20@reddit

I can, just the focus is on cleaning my house, working on projects/hobbies, and mowing the lawn instead of work lol. I miss it tbh. My house is much dirtier since I've returned to the office.

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paleologus@reddit

My dogs would not tolerate me working at home. If I’m home it’s playtime.

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Unable-Entrance3110@reddit

LOL, I have this problem with our dogs. My wife does not. They know who the fun parent is... ;)

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Theyoungtitankronos@reddit

In my case it's the opossite, in home I can focus 12h if is needed but in office simply by the interaction beetwen the mates I can't do the same intensity. I have to go to the office all the days (with some flexibility) so the days I can WFH are to me like paradise.

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WorldlinessUsual4528@reddit

Definitely same. Onsite is just chaos and constant unnecessary interruptions. At home, I have a dedicated workspace in an enclosed patio, the dog hangs out there with me, I have no interruptions other than taking her out every few hours. Sometimes I've sat for 5-6 hours straight without getting up because I was able to focus so long. I had to set timers to remind me to move so my neck and back don't get stiff. People don't message me unnecessarily while at home but have no problem interrupting me in the office just to chat. Every day I have to go in just means more after hours/weekend work I have to do to catch up.

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Sir-Spork@reddit

Everyday, all day. I like it because I like a somewhat clear separation between work and home. I will not address anything outside of office hours unless it’s a real legit issue

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bukkithedd@reddit

This is the way.

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Own_Error_007@reddit

Put it this way. If you can do your job remotely then some wally in Vietnam can as it just as well for a 10th of the cost.

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sys_admin321@reddit (OP)

Nah, no way. How about a 10th of a cost for a 10th of the quality. There ya go.

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Own_Error_007@reddit

That's not my experience. We work with a devops team that is mainly US/Australian educated techs. They are good. Like really good.

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automounter@reddit

I go into the office 3 days a week BY CHOICE and stay the whole day, sometimes late. It is very quiet and the people who are there want to be there. I enjoy working in that kind of environment.

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MetalEnthusiast83@reddit

Who wants to be in a quiet office? That sounds miserable

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Maro1947@reddit

Much more enjoyable than listening to Joyce from Accounts gossip non-stop with her co-workers for 8 hours straight....!

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MetalEnthusiast83@reddit

Not being in an office and listening to music or something seems more enjoyable than both of those things.

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Maro1947@reddit

I am currently listening to my Chill Spotify mix after hosting a Teams call with a client and workong on Minutes Joyce is nowhere to be heard! I'll be having a swim at lunch as well in my pool

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Shanga_Ubone@reddit

This has become a really common arrangement here in Sweden. A lot of people go into the office at 8 or 9 a.m. and then head out at about 3-4 p.m. Seems like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays are the most common days for people to go in. Tuesdays by a very long shot.

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Kris0r@reddit

I've heard this called the "twat" club. Tuesday Wednesday And Thursday.

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junpei@reddit

Tuesday is the day everyone is in the office on my team. Followed by Thursday's, then Wednesday.

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Llew19@reddit

I like my house, and I like being in my house. I don't like being inside it all the time while working for someone else...

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TravellingBeard@reddit

I suspect you would find OP to be very irritating to work with. I two don't mind coming into the office

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Kardinal@reddit

I don't go in 3 days a week because there aren't enough other people there, but there's one day when a lot of the people outside my group are there and I go in to take advantage of the opportunity to network with them.

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thewunderbar@reddit

So you get to just..... not work?

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sys_admin321@reddit (OP)

I work the in office day buts it’s certainly not as productive versus being at home. Distractions, people socializing, going out to lunch.

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DevilDog0651@reddit

Man...So you roll in at 11am, chit chat with people for 30 minutes, then proceed to take an hour and a half lunch, piddle around for a couple of hours and then call it a day lmao?

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N7riseSSJ@reddit

It sounds more like they start work at home, go in, go to lunch, head home early and continue to work?

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sys_admin321@reddit (OP)

This

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N7riseSSJ@reddit

Sounds like a nice schedule. I have to go in every Monday because they want people to see each other (🫩), then I drive out to a site every other Wednesday. Otherwise I'm remote the rest of the time.

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speedbrown@reddit

>I’ll get in around 11am, go to lunch from 11:30 - 1:00 and leave at 3:00 to beat the traffic home ...as a Manager I'd yank your MFH privilages so fast. If you cant be productive in the office why would anyone ever trust you to be productive at home.

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sys_admin321@reddit (OP)

My manager encourages us to log in for a bit in the morning the day of our in office day and then drive in to beat the traffic. He does the same thing. Everyone gets their work done and done well so it doesn’t matter. Glad you are not my manager!

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speedbrown@reddit

Your org is either over provisioned or blind if "logging in for a bit" is enough time to get anything done. Seems insanely wasteful for everyone involved to show up to the office for two hours and go to lunch for two hours, why come in at all if that's the case. But you do you, not hating but just sounds like your team doesn't actually have work to do

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pointandclickit@reddit

I mean yeah it's probably not very productive when according to your post you're at work for a max of two and a half hours. Might as well throw away 30 minutes since you get there at 11 then go to lunch at 11:30. That's not enough time to really get anything done, even if you had intention to.

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yrogerg123@reddit

Realistically theu should fire OP and hire somebody with a work ethic. It would actually be a win-win, quitting a job like that was really good for my career.

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thewunderbar@reddit

That's a you problem then. This will come off as more asshole-ish than I mean it to be, but in my positoin, where i"m a hybrid, 50/50 office and work, if I could just come into the office at 11 on my days in the office, and then leave at 3, I wouldn't have a job for very long.

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sryan2k1@reddit

Sounds shitty. Most companies don't care what hours you work as long as your work gets done.

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thewunderbar@reddit

No, I work for a great place. Best company I've ever worked for. But you know, if I just decided to not show up for work, I wouldn't be employed.

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sryan2k1@reddit

OP said they did some work from home, went in, had lunch (which you'd also get at home) and did some more work. That isn't "Not showing up" Honestly in most orgs these days that do hybrid the whole "being in the office" is more about networking/showing face. OP's schedule roughly sounds like mine on the rare occasion I do go into an office.

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Tireseas@reddit

The ones worth working for at least. I can't imagine how hellish it must be to get micromanaged like a primary school student.

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sys_admin321@reddit (OP)

This

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Wide_Detective7537@reddit

I fear you've been drinking the "paid for hours" vs "paid for output" koolaid...

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ThemB0ners@reddit

Does OP indicate he's NOT working outside of those hours though? It's not like he's logging time for a full 8 hour day but only working half. Sounds like OP should really be full-time WFH and only come in when needed.

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xpxp2002@reddit

Surprised how much hate you're getting for this. Bunch of jealous people in here. I've been hybrid since 2017 and fully WFH since 2020, and I'd be doing the exact same thing if I had to go to an office. They're making you waste your money and time getting up early, filling up with (now very expensive) gas, and putting wear and tear on your car to sit in a building to do the exact same work you can do from home, then there's nothing wrong with reclaiming some of that time back. If they actually cared about efficiency and getting more work out of their employees then they shouldn't arbitrarily punish the people who generate the value that makes their business succeed just to artificially prop up the perceived value of their building.

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its_all_one_electron@reddit

No one can do actual creative work 8 hours a day. Maybe a college kid. But not those of us with decades in it. I can focus 4 hours tops. The rest, they're just paying me to be there. Those are 4 good hours where I get a lot done. The rest is faking looking productive because I'm so tired. Selling labor by hour instead of by actual things done is a crime. I get my work done faster than many others. And yet I have to be there all day just like them.

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xixi2@reddit

I mean like most people in offices... 75% of the day is socializing.

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sryan2k1@reddit

If your work is getting done and you're available vaguely normal business hours we don't care when you "work"

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Sweet_Mother_Russia@reddit

He’s doing the hard work of remotely connecting to a server to manually delete a log file for 3 hours a week. Leave him alone.

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xSecondSalt@reddit

I work the most boring 9-5 with a short commute (5 min ish, walkable in good weather.) It's a peaceful simple life. Not for everyone but works for me. Most of the folks I work with, including me, are approaching or passing a decade of tenure here. I even have my own space, not some vague hotdesk I'm expect to hunch over like a feral animal.

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octahexxer@reddit

Jesus you are living the dream cherish it

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LinuxJeb@reddit

Definitely. I have to bike 2 and a half hours to get to work each day.

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mtnfreek@reddit

What? 40 miles?

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LinuxJeb@reddit

30 miles.

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xSecondSalt@reddit

I did a long stint in my 20's miserably commuting first by bike then by beater / bus / buddy it sucked and I have nothing but respect for you. May the times get easier.

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anonymousITCoward@reddit

I used to walk a mile and a half in the Arizona heat... just to get on a someone air conditioned bus... then another probably quarter mile to get to work... a couple of the people i worked with pitied me so they gave me a ride home... Shoes now days suck compared to back then lol

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dotnetmonke@reddit

I'm in a similar role - chill 15 minute drive, daycare across the street. Somewhat flexible start time, can WFH if I need to cover ill kids or am contagious myself, and about 2 months a year of PTO. It's gonna be horrible if this place ever goes under.

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spikeyfreak@reddit

I'm 20 years in at a similar place, and I'm terrified they're about to outsource us. Work 6:30 to 3:30 in office 4 days a week with my own huge cubicle that's 15 minutes from home. Approaching $200K and I love my boss and coworkers. The server team is smack dab in the middle of everything, and the two leads (me and another 20+ year guy) do so much for this place, and I'm worried the people above my manager don't realize it.

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mtnfreek@reddit

So 20 years time to retire right?

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xSecondSalt@reddit

I absolutely 100% do and I do not take it for granted and work hard to be the best I can be so I'm not rotting in place like many. Most of us are like that where I am. I am underpaid for market but look, I'm just doing my thing. Grass is always greener somewhere.

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HotTakes4HotCakes@reddit

It's important to note your mental well being and your commute expenses matter too. You should be paid more and you should push for that, but the benefits of your specific work place are legit and possibly worth the trade-off. Shit, look at gas prices right now. I've spent the last decade working less than 5 minutes from work. *It's so fucking good*, I don't think I can go back to a anything longer. I've turned down at least one offer for something modestly better paying because it would have turned my cozy 5 minutes suburban drive into a 40 minute highway rush hour commute.

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xSecondSalt@reddit

Previous role was 79 miles each way ! Feel like I lost years of my life. Remote or short commute is definitely the play for physical and mental health.

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rs217000@reddit

I'm trying to insert the Billy Madison "cherish it" GIF but I must be on probation or something. Someone wanna take care of that? It's absolutely necessary.

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5redie8@reddit

This is it. Finally have this and I'm criminally underpaid atm but I know what I have and money can't buy it

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ReptilianLaserbeam@reddit

If I lived that close I wouldn't mind working every day on the office. But with commute I can take between 40 to 60 minutes each trip :(

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xSecondSalt@reddit

Yeah that’s absolutely not worth. It’s so hard on the body spirit and wallet.

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Overdraft4706@reddit

sounds good man, if it works for you!

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TrumpBad_UpvotesPls@reddit

I do 7-4 because I like more free time in the evening but otherwise pretty much the same as you. I could probably chase more money but having basically no commute, a pretty low stress environment(most of the time), and working with good people is just too nice. I even work for a construction company and one of my job duties is regularly going to job sites and flying our drone over our projects.

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Scurro@reddit

Same but k12 and 730 to 4. I started riding a onewheel to work.

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Unable-Entrance3110@reddit

This is my life as well. Though I am a bit further away. My commute is 10 minutes each way.

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klauskervin@reddit

I similarly have my own office and great coworkers but the pay isn't great. I want the good conditions and the good pay but the good working conditions keeps me from moving on.

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TerrificVixen5693@reddit

9 to 5:30 Monday thru Friday. Of course, I get all my work done from 9 to 10:30 and let the scheduled emails send throughout the day to make me seem like a fucking rockstar.

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ChosenOne197@reddit

What do you work on the rest of your day?? Teach your ways to an IT Support Specialist trying to progress to something more specialized, sensei lol 😆

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TerrificVixen5693@reddit

I do still work on engineering projects, do random IT generalist stuff like rack and stack servers or pull out dead cabling, or write some python or bash scripts to automate stuff. But on a really slow day or a read-only day, I genuinely might just be on standby to do those 2 minute help desk tasks like MFA resets. Or I’ll audit our AD env for systems that haven’t checked in since last year and submit like 10 systems for removal to corporate from AD/DNS/MECM/Intune/MDMs. I never do more than 10 systems though, as to not do too much work and have another 10 I can tomorrow.

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ChosenOne197@reddit

Lol. Hope you're single brotha, otherwise you're playing with fire on that last one. Out of curiosity, did you set up your Intune environment? I'm currently heading up trying to integrate Intune into our hybrid environment (primarily AD on-prem driven but M365 integrated for apps essentially) for MDM and have no clue where to start. I mean, I've watched videos and researched and even asked AI, but still feel totally lost on the actual enrollment aspect and then how device profiles get applied since all our devices are already deployed and in service. Totally random with that question I know, but thought I'd throw it out there! 😅

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TerrificVixen5693@reddit

Nah, Intune and MDMs are centralized at corp. I can use them, but did not architect the environment.

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TechMoments@reddit

I should try the scheduled emails sending throughout the day trick. I like it.

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Avro_Wilde@reddit

I wouldn't advertise that, were I you. If you worked for me, arranged a work from home 4 days a week, and didn't stay on-site for the full hours on the day you were supposed to be in the office, you wouldn't have your job very long.

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sys_admin321@reddit (OP)

I get my hours in either way, before hand or after. Glad I don’t have you as a boss, you sound bitter.

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Avro_Wilde@reddit

I wasn't implying you didn't work the hours. I was saying you don't honour your agreements. As a SysAdm, you have access to sensitive information. Your reputation is everything. If you can't be trusted to do something as simple as come to work when you've agreed to, you certainty can't be trusted with that level of responsibility.

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-eschguy-@reddit

2 office days a week. If I'm still there by 1pm, something's wrong.

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Envelope_Torture@reddit

Fortunately I've been 100% remote since 2020.

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nme_@reddit

I've been 100% remote since 2015, the amount of people freaking out with remote work in 2020 was funny to me. I'm going on 11 years pants free!

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mtnfreek@reddit

I was remote before it was cool!😎 2008-2015 then went back in person 3x a week for big tech. It was stressful but worth it. I think the on demand food and cocktails helped lol.

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jamesmaxx@reddit

Me too but we are opening a new office in the summer, so most likely will start being hybrid.

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cdoublejj@reddit

it's funny they have money for that, maybe productivity does drop via remote?

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jamesmaxx@reddit

Not at all, its because we’re a Fintech company and want a presence in New York City

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gianakis05@reddit

Opening a new office just to be hybrid in 2026? 😂

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IrishGoodbye4@reddit

In this economy?!

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Significant_Win_345@reddit

Same, but since 2018.

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mtnfreek@reddit

I’m supposed to be in the office 3x a week. I love my bike ride to the office. But never have in person meetings so why bother? I loathe the dusty, stuffy office. I’d rather be at home with my dog.

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bassistface199x99LvL@reddit

4 days a week with half days on Fridays. Every other Friday off. Once the summer semester begins we go to 4x10 hour days. Off Fridays plus the weekend.

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Tall-Geologist-1452@reddit

If there is something i need to do at the office i go in... if not i don't...I can pretty set my own hours as long as i get the things done my boss wants from me.. truethfully, i go in sometimes to get out of the house.

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BackPackerNo6370@reddit

5x8 in the office, every week. No working from home. We didn't even miss a day during COVID. So, yes, some of us are at the office. As a commuter though, I do thank all of you who stay home.

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spicysanger@reddit

For the work day, yes. The week? No.

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coltsfan2365@reddit

And I bet you’re not putting in a full day on your 4 remote days. Seems to me like an obvious place to cut payroll. Enjoy it now pal, this WILL catch up to you. Bosses will notice the lack of efficiency.

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sys_admin321@reddit (OP)

Nah, I get my hours in some. Some days 6 hours, some 8, some 10, some 5. Never over 40 thankfully. You sound bitter.

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ilyas-inthe-cloud@reddit

Yeah, I think the office day has turned into a coordination day more than a full chair time day. People show up for the 2 or 3 conversations that are faster in person, then disappear before wasting 90 minutes in traffic. Honestly that seems healthier than pretending badge time equals output. If the work is getting done, I care way more about responsiveness and ownership than whether someone was physically there from 9 to 5.

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Maro1947@reddit

I work on multiple client contracts and generally, most of them have team "Anchor" days - usually one or two days a week I go into one site but am remote for the rest

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silkee5521@reddit

2 days a week in the office from 9-3, mostly meetings.

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Humorous-Prince@reddit

5 days a week 9am-5:30pm. I can work from home in circumstances, but the team has to be on site, makes sense for me to be also.

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Brand0_the_Mand0@reddit

Can’t relate

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vi-shift-zz@reddit

Show my face in the morning meeting(s), head home at lunch to finish the day.

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backbodydrip@reddit

I haven't worked from home since 2021 maybe?

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threeballin@reddit

Not willingly

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wildcarde815@reddit

Upper management wants that, it's not happening. They just cut our raises to 1% for the year so there's zero incentive for anybody to play ball on also taking a pay cut by coming in every day.

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Clovis69@reddit

630 to 1500 5 days a week on premises right here

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0x1F937@reddit

Half my team is fully remote and lives 500 miles from the office. Half my company (300 employee is fully remote. Out of the fully remote half of the company, I am one of two employees who must be on site full time.

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immortalsteve@reddit

i have complete freedom to choose my scheduling and location. it's neat.

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HKChad@reddit

I do about 8hrs/wk in the office

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BelugaBilliam@reddit

8-5, big city, 45 min commute, M-F.

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Narcoleptic_247@reddit

I'm remote one day and in the office four.

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NurglesToes@reddit

hell naw. commute 45 mins each way 8:30 - 5, 5 days a week and on call on weekends

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Loopback76@reddit

I go crazy working remote, I’m like a dog, need to be socialized

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Secret_Account07@reddit

We did 6 years WFH I loved life. Been RTO since last March. I want to kill my self. I’m fucking miserable

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DeebsTundra@reddit

Monday thru Friday, 0630-1530 by choice.

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rafaeltrenton@reddit

nah, i usually do like 5-6 days a month, and i usually only hang ouf tor like 2-3 hours a day.

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vondur@reddit

I can work from home once a week, but opt not to. I'm an IT Dept. of one for a College in a University.

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LotusLord23@reddit

On site right now 3-4 days a week usually 9-4ish at the request of ownership while we work through a major software conversion. My plan is to return to 1-2 days on site in June because my presence is not strictly necessary (it’s more of a morale booster).

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TollyVonTheDruth@reddit

I go to the office 5 days a week, and in the 3 years I've been with the company I have yet to work a full 8 hour day.

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MrJacks0n@reddit

8 hours a day, 5 days a week.

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MetalEnthusiast83@reddit

I haven’t been on site in an office in 4 years now.

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serialband@reddit

I'm not even required to be on site. It's all wfh, but I do go in for 5-6 hours twice a week. I'm the only one that does an on site check and I've gotten ahead of problems that aren't directly computer system problems and are facility problems that don't come through email.

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eNomineZerum@reddit

I worked in a horribly broken environment with more off hours work than work to find a 9:00 to 5:00. Our manager was super flexible and this was most of our work days. We had so much work to do after hours and remote that we really just came into the office to shoot the crap and get a lunch together.

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cryonova@reddit

5x7 here in the office

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tommysk87@reddit

If i am at the office i do like 1/10 of what I would normally do from home office. So I am trying to make employers money as effective as possible by not going there

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Inner-Association448@reddit

I have been working from home since covid

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kerrwashere@reddit

Used to work fully remote, now 3 days a week (I do not know why) If there is no issue that requires on-site presence there truly is no reason to be in the office other than talking to people.

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DesignerGoose5903@reddit

I WfA but it's honestly starting to take it's mental toll on me. In one way it's of course great, but the negative is that it feels like you are always expected to be able to jump in on stuff because "you can work from anywhere". Bah, don't know if it's worth complaining about, but it can definitely have it's downside that I feel people don't really talk about. And yes, I even miss getting a coffee in the lunch room and chit-chatting about the weather.

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AwalkertheITguy@reddit

3x14hr or 4x10s for me. I know the 14hr seems odd but you have to be here to understand. And my team that I manage will do 5x8.5 with lunch but they also get 5 days from home per month. Some get 10 days at home per month depending on their job function (software engineer and such)

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8923ns671@reddit

I am in-office 8-5, five days a week. Open office plan except for the big boss who has to walk through the open offices to get to theirs. No I am not leaving early.

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WoTpro@reddit

5*7,5 - we can fix 95% remote, but the point is to be onsite at all times during work hours to help service our users in the best possible way, be that if they choose walkin to our office or submitting a ticket through helpdesk. User interaction is the sole reason we are not outsourced.

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Positive-Biscotti294@reddit

Me, fully on site. Factory problems

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Ziegelphilie@reddit

I despise working remote. Can't focus at all when at home.

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jib_reddit@reddit

Yeah my office is like this now, but its public sector.

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equinox6k@reddit

4 days onsite and one from home. I prefer working onsite, because I don't want to turn my home, where I want to relax, into a workzone. I need clear boarders between work and life. When I leave my workplace, freetime begins and any thoughts about work can f*ck right off.

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britannicker@reddit

This effect is often unnoticed…. a kind of „workzone creep“ (*like scope creep*). No real borders means that you basically work all the time. You might be in your pyjamas, but you’re still working.

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NotYourScratchMonkey@reddit

We go in once per week (mostly) and I will go in early (try to get there around 7:30AM) but leave around 3 or 3:30 to beat traffic.

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zlatan77@reddit

2*7 hrs/day and 3 remote gang.

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Just_Interest_7496@reddit

My small company and I are all remote but we realize this is SUPER lucky. I feel like if you work for a larger organization maybe you have to go in more?

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badaccount99@reddit

I went in to the office last week. It was my first time this year. My team are all remote except for one who's commute would be an hour per day each way, but he also has to do the kid run every day so that's not going to work. I live 5 minutes from the office but still don't go in. I'd be in low cubicle wall hell where I can't really do meetings with my people without annoying the few people who still come in to the office to avoid their kids or wives/husbands. The "butts in seats" people don't understand Sysadmin work. My old boss was like this. I pay my team for their expertise when it's needed, not for the 8 hours per day. Some big CEOs out there demanded people be in the office because if you couldn't see them working you didn't know if they were. This is a management problem, not a worker problem. Mine thankfully realized that the opportunity to hire from all over meant better workers and we could hire from lower cost of living places. 50% of our tech people are fully remote now, and very few of the locals come in most of the time.

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Intrepid_Evidence_59@reddit

I have the option to be remote unless something is required in person like a switch install or an outage. Personally I like being in person.(I enjoy being social) Lately since I go home for lunch I just finish my day there. So it’s more of a hybrid for me.

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discgman@reddit

8 hours a day, half hour lunch. Expected to stay all day. Oh, I get two 10 minute breaks too. If everything goes right in 5 years I will not have to work again.

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bythepowerofboobs@reddit

The younger version of myself got talked into using my skills in the manufacturing industry. This was a good decision for my pocket book, but a very bad decision for remote work.

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mexell@reddit

The contract I work on is with a huge manufacturing enterprise. I only go on site for workshops or when shit hits the fan, all routine hands-on stuff is handled by dedicated onsite people.

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samzi87@reddit

Dedicated onsite people here, it's demanding and not as elegant as many of you are used to, but I like it.

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bythepowerofboobs@reddit

I'm in charge of IT and OT for a food manufacturing company. I have a small team so I need to be hands on, which means I find myself on one plant floor or another pretty much every single day.

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buy-american-you-fuk@reddit

over 9 years now wfh... software dev

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Blork39@reddit

Yes I do that too. Being in the office is a pain in the ass. I basically waste the whole day anyway.

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huntsab2090@reddit

Jesus i am well jealous. Only time i got to wfh was covid. Annoyingly our new boss said he doesnt care where we are based as long as we have an internet connection. So that means wfh surelyyyy ? . Nah

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AmiDeplorabilis@reddit

You actually still go into the office?? Seriously... I'm self employed and I mostly work from home. However, I have some local clients, and I occasionally have to be on site, and I don't think that's going to change any time soon. But, to answer your question... no, unless something is seriously wrong or just takes a while to accomplish.

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themaddestoflads2@reddit

I have looked into becoming self employed but I am unsure where to start. I’m not looking to do it immediately as I have only been doing this about 5 years but eventually that’s the goal. 40 minute commute for $55k a year is so draining.

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AmiDeplorabilis@reddit

Wish I could help... my clients are MSP castoffs that were too small for the MSP to care about. You can be as busy as you want to be.

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redhatch@reddit

I’m usually in at 8 on days I go to the office but head home at noon. I’ve seen managers up to and including SVP level do this.

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antrov2468@reddit

I wish. I worked from home being sick last week and got told I’ve been doing it too often and need to use PTO. 99% of things I do don’t need me there in person, waste of space tbh

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zhinkler@reddit

Control.

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antrov2468@reddit

It’s only from like 2 people in upper management that dont like it lmao everyone else thinks we should be able to work remote. They’re leaving the company soon tho so hopefully that’ll change

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Stonewalled9999@reddit

you sound like my coworker Kevin

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Excellent-Program333@reddit

Kevin LOVES his office time and chats!

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Excellent-Program333@reddit

Are we complaining or just observing? Do we now all miss our cubicle buddys these days and the aromatic smell of microwaved fish from the “Employee Kitchen”?

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Hour_Reality9727@reddit

LOL. Work for the Federal government. We get 0 telework. This administration made it their mission to make us as miserable as possible.

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Human-Secretary-8853@reddit

Local gov here. I’m 100% on board with no telework except for unique one offs such as dangerously bad weather.

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Hour_Reality9727@reddit

Not me. We were meeting metrics and morale was very high while we were teleworking. The administration came in a basically destroyed everything that was good about working for the government. The people that were fired have been leaving in droves to greener pastures and I don't blame them.

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Human-Secretary-8853@reddit

I’ll take your word for it.🫡 Thank you for your civil service.

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Pato_ao@reddit

Same thing in Canada

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Rickatron@reddit

I go in every day unless work travel takes me elsewhere.

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Garble7@reddit

Manager here. I come in every day. Spend the entire day at work.

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RedditNotFreeSpeech@reddit

Shhhhhhhhhh

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DonkeyTron42@reddit

I stop by the office maybe once or twice a week to make a cameo and visit the data center for a couple of hours maybe twice a week as needed. The exception is I have to spend a couple months in Asia every year.

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DonkeyTron42@reddit

I stop by the office maybe once or twice a week to make a cameo and visit the data center for a couple of hours maybe twice a week as needed.

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SimplifyAndAddCoffee@reddit

maybe once a month I'm in for a full day from open to close. Otherwise I usually go in for half the day over lunch after working from home for the morning.

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Physical_Ad2121@reddit

I’m so 1 day a week, get there at 8, go to lunch around 11 and then head home. It’s kind of a throw away day but it’s good to see my co-workers

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reactor4@reddit

I'm in 3 days 8-3

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Inevitable_Claim_653@reddit

Not me, but a lot of the people in the business too

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thefinalep@reddit

I have the ability to work from home most of the time, But I choose to go into the office. For me, it's a mental health reason. When I did WFH full time I went insane being at my house all of the time.

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Public_Warthog3098@reddit

Wfh. Go in once or twice a week too. Tier 1 usually are in site 3 to 4 days a week.

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mrbostn@reddit

We’re in the office 3 days. I usually arrive by 6:30. Leaving about 2:30

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Darkone06@reddit

Decided to move so close to the office that I can walk to it in about 20 minutes, bike or drive in 10 minutes. I basically go in in the morning to be seen them walk out at around 10 am to go to lunch/home. Sometimes I come in at the end of the day. I'm reachable by Teams whenever something pop up. There's a Starbucks next door to us between my office and home. If I am needed at the office. I'm just like, oh I just ordered Starbucks give me a few minutes and I'll be at my desk and I'll take care of it. I don't even like it drink coffee but my manager lives on the other side of the country and I'm VPN into the office all the time so it looks like I'm there. I mean I practically live at the office. The weird thing is, I sometimes hang out there on the weekends when it's empty especially on game days so I can use the new 100 inch Samsung Conference room TV. Honestly I probably wouldn't even go in if it wasn't that we get catered breakfast MWF. And lunches on Tuesdays and Thursdays, Friday.

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First-Structure-2407@reddit

Yeah, same. I get in for 8:45, usually long gone by 2pm.

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Whyd0Iboth3r@reddit

Before this job, I was a field engineer for 12 years. Technically worked from home, but had to travel to sites for certain things. Now it's M-F 8-5, but I go home at lunch time to finish my day at home, on Fridays.

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Pato_ao@reddit

You guys get a choice to go in?? ;_;

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-GenlyAI-@reddit

Hell no I'm not. In office two days a week. We already only have 35 hour weeks but I'm still out by 3:30. Little earlier if I come in on a Friday so I can grab a beer for the train.

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FastFredNL@reddit

I live alone so no way I'm working from home. I battled through the covid era working from home and nearly went crazy. I still like it from time to time when I need to get some work done without distractions.

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Wartz@reddit

No

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aintthatjustheway@reddit

Yep. I don't have any remote work.

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720hp@reddit

I work for the military and yeah— I work my whole shift, every shift, on post.

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SexBobomb@reddit

Officially Im supposed to be in once a week I have been in the office once since I was hired in November - though to be fair i do live 5 hours away from the office (Im moving closer next week)

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JudgeCastle@reddit

6hrs or less when I have to, which isn’t often. Most of it is people watching to catch up.

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Fatty_McBiggn@reddit

I go in all 5 days but usually leave for lunch.

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Polyolygon@reddit

Yup that’s basically me. Remote until I need to go onsite for something. Show up at 8, leave around 11-1 depending on my day. Then drive home for just under an hour and work until 5.

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Centremass@reddit

The last time i went ino my office was back in 2013. 😁

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bionic80@reddit

I've moved well into the 'I'll be remote for the rest of my working career' side of the equation and intend to stay here come hell or high water.

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1d0m1n4t3@reddit

i get on site ~11am, by 11:50am i'm so antsy i'm ready to go home, then i take lunch, come back for another hour maybe 2 if something interesting is going on then I go home. Full disclosure I own the shop so I probably have more freedom than I should.

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codewario@reddit

Nice try, Mr. Manager

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James_R3V@reddit

Similar, we meet occasionally in the office on Thursday's, not every week but a few times a month. Get in around 11a, leave around 3p. Otherwise all remote.

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fwambo42@reddit

I swipe my badge and stay for a couple hours on my required days

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monedula@reddit

* 1 day a week with my own team. Usually the most useful day of the week; we all stay the whole day. * 1 day a week with the department, sometimes useful, sometimes stay the whole day. * 2 days at home. * Fifth day is variable. Suits me fine.

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infinitepizzapockets@reddit

Lol hell no brah. 2-3 times a day in office but they're always half days or a few hours when I'm there

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Confident_Guide_3866@reddit

Oh yeah, 9-5 ish, 44 min commute, 5 days a week

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gwig9@reddit

I work for the Federal govt. They canceled our telework program and then "gave" us a new one that has no benefit to use (limited amount of telework hours per year, must use telework hours and work if building closed due to weather/safety). So I'm working every day from the office. Maybe one day I'll be able to telework again but I'm not counting on it...

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cyber_r0nin@reddit

Be glad you still have a fed job...

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uniqnorwegian@reddit

I have a 9-5, and typically leave between 3 and 4 and do the remaining time from home. I only have a short walk from the office anyways, so I just count the time the walk takes as a break. On occasion I´ll head to the office and hour or two later as well.

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DeepPowStashes@reddit

I really need a remote job. Been doing this since 2018, never remote :(

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absentspace@reddit

![gif](giphy|Tl7vMjzid4Tv1sjy52) Brooooooooo

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igniztion@reddit

I log most of my hours every week at the office even though I could work from home. I get much more exhausted working from home. Need to see other people and environments.

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ThemesOfMurderBears@reddit

Meanwhile we are going from two days onsite to three. I suspect the remaining two days will follow in due time.

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FatBook-Air@reddit

I hope this isn't the case for you, but last time I worked at a place like yours with those schedules (2022), there were massive layoffs not longer after. That doesn't have to be the case, but I have seen it twice now.

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sys_admin321@reddit (OP)

It’s been this way for years.

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HoosierLarry@reddit

Yeah, you’re fired. Slacker.

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acniv@reddit

Haven't been onsite since roughly 2019. The company sold off half our space but still keeps yammering on about bringing people back onsite, asinine. 90 minutes wasted, fuel wasted, air pollution and risking city idiots for what, so I can sit at a desk and remote back into the devices we support. Colossal time and resources waste.

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xpxp2002@reddit

Exactly. It's crazy that there isn't more pushback against RTO now that gas has been going up. You know what would bring prices down? Reducing demand. And you know what would reduce demand? Fewer people needlessly commuting to an office when they don't need to be.

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DarthJarJar242@reddit

I'm sorry but going into the office for 30 minutes before taking an hour and a half lunch just strikes me as lazy. As a manager I'd rather you just wait to come in after your lunch and stay for a straight 4 hours then have you be at the office for only 4 hours but have it be split up over a 5.5 hour window.

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chesser45@reddit

I wish. Our whole teams been pining for split 4x10 but our boss won’t do it.

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Honolulu-Blues@reddit

Yeah, a lot of people don't have the luxury.

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sonic10158@reddit

8-5 Monday-Friday, completely on-prem. I’d like a hybrid, but I think fully remote would be a bit much for me since going into the office is the majority of my social interactions

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slayermcb@reddit

Yeah this. I wouldnt mind something like "Work From home Wednesdays" or something, but I would go stir crazy doing WFH full time.

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Panda-Maximus@reddit

I remind my engineers that want remote work of this: "If you can do your job from home, someone else can do it for less." Especially right now when tens of thousands of IT professionals are looking for work.

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FearIsStrongerDanluv@reddit

Lemme guess, your family owns the business? Or it’s a 5-man business and you’re the CIO and CEO? I can’t imagine any serious org where an employee can come in at 11, take an early lunch break at 11u30 and already bail by mid afternoon and you still got a job.

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sys_admin321@reddit (OP)

This a large corporation here in Ohio. I log in for a bit in the morning, then leave around 10:30 to beat all the traffic. Lots of people do this. Some that come in earlier leave at 2:00pm. Getting your work done and done well is more important than just sitting in a chair to count minutes onsite.

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FearIsStrongerDanluv@reddit

That additional context makes a slight difference. Maybe that’s acceptable in the States, I live in Europe and even if you work remote or have the flexibility to, almost no one will come in at 11, take a break at 11hr30 and then leave at 15hrs…unless ofcourse it’s just for a meeting that requires being present

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Man-e-questions@reddit

![gif](giphy|icqYhEkm55iKI) I wouldn’t say I’ve been *missing* it…

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aes_gcm@reddit

"Hear what I said, Nix? You've been demoted."

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webguynd@reddit

> and leave at 3:00 to beat the traffic home. Doesn’t seem like a lot of people are staying the whole day anymore. I wonder if, location dependent, there's a trend toward earlier starting times. Over the past ~6 years or so where I've worked, I've seen the pople that work in the office sort of slowly migrate away from a 9-5 into what's now basically a 7a-3p/3:30p. Everyone generally leaves early on Fridays, office becomes a ghost town after 3pm except the customer facing folks that have to be there until the place closes. Most of the customers my work does business with are also working early morning hours, a lot of them starting around 6am and being done for the day between 2:30 and 3:30pm I WFH but have adjusted my own schedule alongside the office folks so I can be available when they need, and I actually quite like it. Especially in the summer, I love being done around 3:30 and value that time in the afternoon much more than I valued any extra time in the morning by not starting until 9am.

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n_rth@reddit

Sure sounds nice. 8-5 M-F, shared office with two other IT guys. No lunch room. Boss's office is in the server room. 25~ minute commute. No on call at least... Big boss's office is right next to ours so no chances to leave early or get in late. And you can imagine how many walk up questions we get.

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Nu-Hir@reddit

I wish. 8-5 Mon-Fri in office. Despite he fact that I do over 95% of my work from my office and rarely need to leave it, I have to be in the office 40 hours a week.

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Julio_Ointment@reddit

I was doing one day onsite alone. I didn't mind it at all. They added days at my public college job onsite. I'm immune compromised and my coworkers are very social and have babies so I put in to work fully remote.

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wintermutedsm@reddit

Tell me you work at Casey's Corporate without telling me you work at Casey's Corporate.

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skeetgw2@reddit

I can come and go as I please but typically it would be in office for most of it per the business but my boss doesn't care as long as the work gets done. I typically do a remote day once a week and then grace them with my presence for the other days. I have my own office though with a door that can shut so I'm sure its a bit different from usual.

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Artistic-Machine-189@reddit

When you do go into the office, it’s filled with people just having zoom calls because not everyone is in at the same time (especially C suites) due to space restraints. It’s so dumb.

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dont_ama_73@reddit

No. Most sysadmins work a full day and pray to their favorite deity that there are no issues overnight.

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Sirloin_Tips@reddit

Same. WFH with the option to go into the office. I'm \~10mins from the office. 8-5 M-F. I typically log on around 6 (wife up at 5) and do meta work, check/respond to emails etc. Work til noon then take lunch. Then head into the office around 2-3. I love it.

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bgatesIT@reddit

in the office 5 days a week, from 7:30-4:30 typically, can work from home if there is bad weather or not feeling well, other then that required in office. On-call 24/7 365, and also have to work projects afterhours on work nights and weekends and still show up. fun times yea

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phantomtofu@reddit

Not usually. If I'm going to the office I'll go around 9am and leave about 3 to avoid rush hour. If I don't get out in time I'll usually hit the gym in the office and head home after rush hour.

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sistermarypolyesther@reddit

I do not, unless I ride my bike to work. If I drive in, I arrive after morning rush hour and leave before 3pm.

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Cak2u@reddit

Tu, W, Th - 7 to 4 (really 7 to 3ish so I can beat some traffic going home) M, F - wfh Its been pretty nice tbh. I can lock in and get a bunch done without family distractions. My dog is just too cute to not get pets.

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Double_Confection340@reddit

This company I work for is stuck in the 90s and hates WFH so we all have to come in everyday, despite me being fully capable of WFH. Fortunately for me I live 10 mins away.

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Ive_seen_things_that@reddit

Yeah, it has slowed me down considerably. Before I could have a quick conversation with someone, now I'm stroking emails and waiting for responses. Work from home is a blight on productivity. Whatever. I'm old and my opinion doesn't matter anymore

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whetherby@reddit

Industrial Environment here. We don't work from home.

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Unable-Entrance3110@reddit

Yeah I am in the office 4 days a week and WFH on Friday. I am here all day (8 hours). I am in the US.

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ImportantMud9749@reddit

I recently moved a 5 minute walk from my office... I usually have meetings in the morning with people spread around locations so I take them from home, then go in for the afternoon unless everyone else is remote. If I do a full remote day I usually let people in slack know I can be there in 5-10 minutes if I'm not busy. It helps that there are only a dozen or so people of the 1500ish total employees at my site.

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WorldlinessUsual4528@reddit

Since I'm salary and don't take lunch, I leave earlier but I'm usually there about 6-7 hours.

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OMGItsCheezWTF@reddit

I'm in the office once a month or so. The office is a 3 hour train journey away so I tend to get a hotel overnight and spend 2 days there. Travel and hotel is expensed of course.

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knightmese@reddit

I don't like working from home a lot. I got my fill of that during COVID. I work Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday in the office. Wednesday is my work from home. It breaks up my week nicely. I usually roll in to the office around 9:30am then leave around 4pm. Sometimes I'll duck out at 3pm on a Friday. They know I can always be reached if something urgent pops up, which is rare.

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vvavegodd@reddit

Nope. I’m the same as you, work from home 4 days a week and have to go into the office 1 day a week. Any day I choose to go in, my office building is like a ghost town. Ever since Covid and we became a wfh company, nobody wants to go in anymore. But there has to be at least 1 employee from the help desk team in the building to assist anyone who maybe wants to come in instead of working from home. And it’s very common to leave “early” to avoid traffic.

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Salamandro@reddit

I'm not made for home-office. I don't get anything done. I'll ride 20 minutes to the office on my bike, work, socialize, and ride 20 minutes back home. Pretty sweet for me.

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wwbubba0069@reddit

Dep of 1. In the office around 530am leave 3pm... 50 mile commute. 5 days a week, one weekend a month.

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Civil_Inspection579@reddit

especially if they already did some work from home earlier also once hybrid became normal, strict hours kinda faded as long as work gets done, nobody really cares about exact time in seat not every company is like this, but a lot of teams have quietly shifted this way

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aquaberryamy@reddit

get in 8 dip at 3, on call till 5

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TeaBagTroopers@reddit

I'm OnSite 5 days a week 9 hours (8 of work, 1 hour break) I prefer it. I dislike working at home, I get easily distracted and often don't do as much.

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shiddedandfarded69@reddit

>I prefer it. I dislike working at home, I get easily distracted and often don't do as much. I get much more distracted at the office. I can't stand the people that come in, chit chat your face off all fucking day, never even open their laptop, pat themselves on the back and go home. I can work in a nice quiet office in my basement with no distractions since I'm the only one home. But, no, upper management in their infinite glory says that I have to remotely manage my systems from an office that none of my colleagues go to.

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TeaBagTroopers@reddit

That isn't the case in my office luckily. We have a very specific process when it comes to help and I have always held a clear line of saying "Sorry, no, I'm bisy with a meeting or a ticket that's ageing and unusual, I don't have time, go to technical channel"

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shiddedandfarded69@reddit

It's not even for help. I manage enterprise servers only that are not local. It's always just shooting the shit. Not to mention birthday parties, meetings that I shouldn't even have been invited to, people coming in late or leaving early because of traffic, smoke breaks every 10 mins, altercations that are becoming more frequent, and power outages all the fucking time.

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TeaBagTroopers@reddit

Ah, I'm sorry to hear that. We have had our outages and Public transport strikes here in Berlin but I always found a way. I can only speak for myself here, I like my environment, but I would probably do the same as you given the situation.

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yournicknamehere@reddit

Don't your break count to work hours? It's terrible. I'm work in Poland and when I was working 4 days onsite (up to 2025) my 30 min break (theoretically 30 min, it was often up to 1h) was always counted to working hours. It's common here that you can start between 7:00-9:00 and you leave after 8h no matter how long your break was.

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TeaBagTroopers@reddit

Depends on your contract and the industry you're working in My work hours are 7:30 - 16:30 which adds up to 9 hours, 8 hours of work, one for breaks (4 fifteen minute breaks to smoke cause I didn't want a half hour to eat)

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yournicknamehere@reddit

Just out of curiosity, where are you from?

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Substantial_Crazy499@reddit

I had 2 employers like this as well, and was salaried…only a 30minute break was included, any more and you need to work later. It is terrible as 30 minutes is not long enough to do anything

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yournicknamehere@reddit

Yes that's inhumane IMO.

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TeaBagTroopers@reddit

I am from, and working in, Germany.

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yournicknamehere@reddit

Okay

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BrorBlixen@reddit

Same, I was work from home for several years (all before Covid) and when I started back doing in office work I was better able to leave work problems at work which gave me a better work life balance. My commute time is generally less then minutes so it isn't such a big deal for me.

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TeaBagTroopers@reddit

Hell, even with my 30 minute commute I can read or do my internet stuff on my phone. Usually rhings I'd push away because "Ah, I'm trying to chill now that I'm home".

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aaiceman@reddit

What's this "onsite" you speak of?

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dinotoxic@reddit

That’s taking the piss to be honest, joke

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tuxedo_jack@reddit

I work from home 100%. I'm _very_ fortunate to have a separate home office in the place I'm moving to (single-family home with a mother-in-law style floor plan), and when I'm done for the day, I intend to make sure the cats are out and lock the door behind me. When I'm on-premises for anything, it's a full day, simply because I leave _before_ rush hour and its variable-price congestion tolls start, and I do the same at the end of the day rather than get caught in traffic. It's _cheaper_ to pay me to wait and drive home after traffic has died down than it is to have me fight rush hour traffic, funny enough.

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fanatic26@reddit

Id get fired if I showed up for work that little four 10s every week.

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okcboomer87@reddit

100 percent in office. Government mandate.

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TheAngryTechGnome@reddit

50/50

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armor64@reddit

mon/tues in office by choice (~2 days requested), 6am-1pm, and home before end of shift at 2, because if people WFH dont commute, i should be able to end work day back at home too lol.

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cannon19@reddit

Hah your day reminds me of my old job my boss told me to go in 1-2 days a week those days honestly felt more like field trips than work days. Arrive around 10, try to figure out the setting that makes the perfect latte on the new coffee machine, chat with some people, try lunch spots then hit the road around 3-4 so i can be home in time for the after-hours changes. Lord knows I ain’t trying to be stuck at the office if something breaks during my changes

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jcwrks@reddit

I have my own office. I am expected to physically show up M-F, but my hours are flexible. I usually leave before 4 pm. unless there's a project that requires my attention. I'm not putting out fires all of the time, so it's often pretty relaxed and I spend a majority of my day spacing out.

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evantom34@reddit

In my last two jobs no. First job, RTO changed from 3/2 hybrid to 5 days in office. People consistently leave early, but people generally stay the majority of the day. Second job, my boss was getting in at 8:30-9 and leaving at 3. Plenty of others were staying for ~4 hours similar to you.

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Raskuja46@reddit

My god awful sleep cycle has resulted in me just ignoring the alarm clock and sleeping in but I still leave at the same time every afternoon. I'm down to a six hour workday and no one seems to mind. Only downside is that I'm honest with my timecard reporting so I'm making less money. Still a worthwhile tradeoff for now.

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ipv6testing@reddit

no official "wfh" policy here, but no one cares that I show up at 10am and leave at 3pm.. (also 10 min commute from office), but im also highly available, pick up the phone after hours, and do a lot of changes after hours.

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gormlessthebarbarian@reddit

in office 5 days a week around here, it's a butts in seats kinda small company. my commute is long and terrible, but at least the pay sucks.

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Windows-Helper@reddit

Jup, and I like it.

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shiddedandfarded69@reddit

I got RTO'd 5 days a week. Although nobody in my team works in the same city as me. And the systems I manage are spread around 4 different data centers, the closest of which is a 10hr drive for me. So I go to an office to work remotely.

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bobs143@reddit

Here all eight hours.

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Pepperh3ad@reddit

Many departments at my company are either what I would call "sparse hybrid" (i.e. in the office rarely), or fully remote. Us IT people are in the office full time with just a couple of exceptions. I'm in about 7:00 until 5:00 every day, with extra when needed.

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seanhead@reddit

I haven't worked a normal in office gig since 2009...

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The_Wkwied@reddit

I feel like some days I am working double time, and others I'm counting the seconds. Overall though I feel like it evens out between the weeks. Busy because of genuine business? Feels good. Busy because another team decided to reboot the farm on an end of month Monday to install a patch.... does not feel good.

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thomasmitschke@reddit

6 to 2, 4days at home/1 day in the office like OP

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fewcool_@reddit

Strictly going in for necessary physical intervention then going home right after.

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kevin_k@reddit

I'm here all day

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khantroll1@reddit

I work for the government. Despite the fact that I could do 98% of my job remotely (seriously, I left my office to go to another site for the first time in weeks today), I am at work from 7am-4pm. I occasionally take lunch from like 12-1 or 1-2, but more often then not I just work or sit at my desk.

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Subnetwork@reddit

That sucks

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tapwater86@reddit

Haven’t stepped into a place I’ve worked at since 2018. I’ll retire before I go back to an office.

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sryan2k1@reddit

I go in to the office about once a month. I head in after I drop my son off at school to avoid rush hour, usually buy my guys lunch, and then head home around 3pm to beat rush hour again and wrap up anything that may linger once I'm back WFH.

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inclination64609@reddit

I’m in the office twice a week and remote with my new baby 3 days a week. The days I go in are for meetings, device prep or break/fix, and general office hours/presence. The days I’m remote I write company policies, SOPs, do config tweaks and experimentation, etc… It’s been working out really well. I’m never feeling overwhelmed with any aspect of the job as a 1 man IT dept for an org of 250 users.

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antons83@reddit

Yep this happens often when there's no management/C-suite presence. We have a sister-site where a lot of techs work out of. I've been told that around noon, there's a mass exodus. I enjoy our head office. There are a lot of people (management and C-suite included), and I'm trying to build bridges between IT and the different departments, so I enjoy the social aspect. I do see IT transforming further into a customer service oriented field, and I want to bring our team out of the darkness. So it's two-fold for me. I enjoy our office, and I want to push our team into the light. That being said, when I get home, I barely think about work. The separation works very well for me.

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cheapcologne@reddit

I thankfully live about 10 min from the offices so I go in every day. I have a nice office with free coffee and red bull. I've noticed that our main office is staffed 80% Tuesday through Thursday with most people WFH on Mondays and Fridays. We're still working on getting the last of our infrastructure to a management point where we can do our jobs from home. Unfortunately we still do a lot of onsite support for gate and door hardware, phones, and random stuff. I let my IT guys work from home on Fridays as long as they don't need to be onsite for anything.

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RikiWardOG@reddit

No because normal people don't call that a work day. They call that pretending to work for a day. Nobody in their right mind would come in at 11 and leave at 3. That looks bad tbh. I come in twice a week 8:30-4. The rest of your company aren't coming in at 11 I promise you that and they see that you're showing up super late.

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Ron-Swanson-Mustache@reddit

Not if I don't have anything to do and everyone else is gone.

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ItsInmansFault@reddit

Public employee here (state,) and as of four months ago we get exactly zero remote days or hours.

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d-weezy2284@reddit

8-5 MWTh in office. I think I work more in office cause I feel like I got to make my 35min there and back worth it. Being home is great but I risk keeping the work energy in my home.

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zomiaen@reddit

> Being home is great but I risk keeping the work energy in my home. Two things immensely help with this: 1.) Ideally a dedicated working space, only for work. I realize this isn't possible in every situation, but even a dedicated desk can help. 2.) Dress like you're going to the office It's all about creating that mental separation.

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CeC-P@reddit

I still have to touch and ship and set up A LOT of hardware and this is where it all is so I'm in the office 5 days a week. That seems to be the determining factor. I think I saw our server guy twice.

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AdamoMeFecit@reddit

I do go in every day, partly for political reasons. I find that all sorts of ad hoc-ism occurs in the hallways when people actually are on site. Part of maintaining a secure footprint and infrastructure has become snuffing out those little fires before they catch.

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marvinnitz18@reddit

100% remote since covid, and I love it

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AlissonHarlan@reddit

Yes, we are not allowed HO unless we live past x km, and not a day After or before a day Off. Since i'm a mother that is Off wednesday... All m'y days of Works are After or before a day Off... Tbh it doesn't Bother personally, it's just a shitty politic for 2026 (HO is good enough when the employer is winning, but not when the employee is winning)

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talin77@reddit

5x 9 plus a side job 2x 10.

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CoolxRice@reddit

1099 for a small family ran business. Most of the engineers (oil&gas) are in their twilight years working under 30 hrs/week. 5 minute drive. In office 1 1/2 days. WFH M/T and Fridays we're closed.

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AptCasaNova@reddit

Nope, our card swipes and wifi pings are being tracked so there's no more flexibility there. We're 4 days in office.

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Mehere_64@reddit

Here all day 7-4 with hour lunch. When I do need to work from home because of an appointment I will do so. Though with summer coming up I will "need" to work from my lake place on Mondays and Fridays more often than not. While I don't like giving up the extra hour for commuting, I do enjoy being in the office so that I am actively involved in those what we call drive-by conversations that I might not otherwise hear about or can offer an idea on how to resolve the issue.

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ohyeahwell@reddit

Other than getting in late wed-fri bc school dropoff, yeah, I stay the whole time. Don't even leave for lunch.

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Likely_a_bot@reddit

There are offices where people are still afraid of their boss seeing them leave early. Those bosses are typically XBoomers Everyone else coffee badges as a compromise to RTO.

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Prepped-n-Ready@reddit

For the most part, Ive jsut been working remote the last few years, never even seen most of my coworkers. I got to meet a handful of people when they flown me out, but thats it. I started a new job recently and have been coming in. The office is pretty relaxed, and my manager isnt even local, no scan badges, no sensors on the ceiling. I just try to stick to my commitments. I dont see it being a problem unless Im making it inconvenient for others.

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DevilDog0651@reddit

You sound like my boss.

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Regular-Nebula6386@reddit

We are back in the office 3 times a week and I do stay the whole day but some coworkers come twice or once a week and some leave at noon, there’s a few that only come when there is pizza lunch. I know upper management know who is in the office and how often, and even though there’s no enforcement at the moment, when they are ready to drop the hammer, they have the data to support their decisions.

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3dickdog@reddit

I have the option to work from home except for wed. I choose to come in. I am usually the only one here. I show up at 7:30 and stay til 4. Bring a lunch and normally woof it down at some point. On Wed the people that show up usually come in after me and leave before me.

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Grumpy-Troglodyte@reddit

1 man band at a small business. never wasn't here 5x8.

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Lukage@reddit

No, we are expected to work a full day in the office when working in the office. I don't know a single person who works a 2 1/2 hour day with a 90-minute lunch.

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Undeadlord@reddit

I go in 1 day a week. Usually a full day, but during COVID they physically shrank our office by not re-leasing the whole space. So we couldn't have everyone in the office at the same time even if we wanted to. Most days I am in the office (Tuesdays) we have about 12 people out of 120 there. Monday and Fridays I hear its basically dead except for an IT helpdesk person.

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BuffaloRedshark@reddit

I'm all for WFH and don't really mind coworkers that come in at a normal time and go home at lunch, or come in at lunch and leave at a normal time. I'd hate a coworker that rolled in at 11, went to lunch for an hour and a half a half hour after getting there, and then left at 3 and I'd be questioning how much work they actually do. I've had coworkers join meetings from their car while commuting in or out. They're barely listening, not contributing, can't answer questions as they don't have the data available, can't see the screenshare

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Exploding_Testicles@reddit

Scheduled 8-5.. roll in 8:20, bail out between 4:15 to 4:30.. hour-ish for lunch. mondays and Fridays are always dead as 95% of my users WFH on those days.. but im always here.. and unofficially on call for key and critical events and for people I like.

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SusAdmin42@reddit

Stuck committing into NYC 4 days a week. Hope to get a WFH job next. Or at least 3 days wfh.

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Masterofunlocking1@reddit

We just got told to come back to the office Tuesday through Thursday. Even during Covid I was usually onsite a lot of days anyway. I do mainly networking

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Steve_at_Werk@reddit

They're tracking our in office time via authentication logs showing in office VS remote. They got real strict but people are starting to come in for 10AM and are leaving at 3:00PM. We were specifically told to come in for 8 and a half hours which my team has stuck to; but, it sucks seeing other teams come and go everyday.

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spuckthew@reddit

Not as extreme as you, but I go in 1-2 times per week and usually do a 9.20am - 4.40pm sort of thing because that's just how my trains work without forcing me to get up too early or get home too late as my commute is about 1hr 10mins.

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theMightBoop@reddit

Federal government. Have to come in 5days a week because I obviously need to be onsite to do teams calls with people in other campuses and manage servers located in a data center in another state. Whoohoo!

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TechnicaVivunt@reddit

1 week in office 1 week remote. Makes no sense considering I don't have any face to face support for users/management, but I'll take it over being full in office.

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guydogg@reddit

I may go in next Thursday. Haven't been in since April 2025. I'll leave my house at 9, arrive at 11am via the train, go for lunch at 12, leave lunch at 2pm and come home. Literally, every time.

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tankerkiller125real@reddit

I show up sometimes between 8:15 and 8:30 (technically works starts at 8), and then I go to lunch at noon for an hour or hour and a half (maybe longer if I'm eating out with the boss), and then work until around 4:30-5 depending on if any shit has hit the fan. I do work from the office, but so does the majority of staff, I wish I could go entirely remote or part time remote, but the bosses won't allow it because "What if someone has a physical issue while in the office?" (Despite having multiple remote entry options, and both wired and wireless connectivity options)

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LinuxJeb@reddit

I'm at the office 8 hours a day 5 days a week.

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bobsmith1010@reddit

Notice that your not coming into the office for the full day sure. But, I don't judge. lol. But, if there something going on I'll stay in the office. But if I got nothing then I'm leaving when I need to. I get to the office when I need to be there for a few meetings and then determine from there. Even before COVID I was doing that but those were the days I wasn't working what felt like 24 hours in the office.

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jdiscount@reddit

I go once every few months, and similar to you, show up at 11, go to lunch. Have a meeting, go home.

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TSTKevin@reddit

I get 1 day wfh per week, I change it between Weds or thurs to break up the work week. When I go do into the office, I arrive between 9-10am and leave by 3pm. My 20 minute drive shouldn't take 1 hour, I'd rather be home with my laptop open. 've been doing this for a year or so and nobody has said anything cause I'm "IT".

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Malbushim@reddit

I'm only allowed to telework situationally, which has to be justified to my supervisor each time

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randomman87@reddit

Our boss just told everyone to stop doing this lol

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Pub1ius@reddit

Unfortunately I'm 100% in-office between 9AM and 5PM. Even during peak Covid, my office only allowed work-from-home for 30 days. The CEO of course is maybe physically here 5-10 hours a week.

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Rawme9@reddit

Hybrid but I generally work ~745-430 when I'm in office and 8-5 when I'm work from home.

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FantasticMouse7875@reddit

Yeah, Im a very loose 9 to 5. Im the support guys, my sysadmins are in most days too. Our previous one was pretty much all remote, turns out he wasent doing much.

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makzpj@reddit

In my previous job we were forced to go to the office 3 days a week. Most people left the office everyday after around 13:00.

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MAALBR0@reddit

Work from office 6:30am till 3:30 pm. 5 days a week. No negotiations. So hectic😭

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robotbeatrally@reddit

Man if I could work from home, I'd do it for pennies. My company went back to work a couple weeks on whatever day that would have been the amount of time to get the booster for the vaccine was.

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kshot@reddit

Since we don't have dedicated office but shared desk, i just dont go anymore, it sucks. The return to office with no actual office dedicated to you is nothing like it was before the pandemic. Most time I go to the office it's the same people being there.

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Leather-Arachnid-417@reddit

Dude.....we are watched like a hawk. To the minute. In office 5 a week.

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ipreferanothername@reddit

Fully remote but the office is available. I don't use it but some people in the department go there for face to face meetings or just to get out of the house here and there. Supposedly the dress code was reinstated. So... Hard pass. I'm usually in a bathrobe or Track suit when wfh.

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donith913@reddit

I’ve been full time WFH since the start of COVID even though I’ve changed jobs twice. COVID gave me access to a national job market from a relatively LCOL city. As someone with ADHD, I’d prefer to be hybrid with a flexible schedule just so I have somewhere other than my house to work. I’d probably go in more often than not if I could bike or bus like I did pre-COVID, but I’d have to take a massive pay cut to find a local job.

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idle_handz@reddit

All youse coffee badgers.

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shockvandeChocodijze@reddit

I havent been a year in the office.

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Bagel-luigi@reddit

Depends if there's a point and how far im traveling. If I'm dragged into office to deal with one specific off-line thing, I'll head home once that's done and confirmed.

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Trust_8067@reddit

I'm full remote, but the people who do have to go in just badge in, go to lunch, then go home.

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OneSeaworthiness7768@reddit

I’m fully remote. Only go into the office for special occasions basically, so when I do go in I’m there for the day.

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Ad-1316@reddit

In office all the time. \*although could do 90% from home. They pay me to see my but in the seat.

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Final_Tune3512@reddit

I haven't been to an office in over 5 years ours is in TX and I am not

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Entegy@reddit

Yup. In the office 1-2 times a week. Stay the whole day. But I take public transit so no need to leave early to beat traffic.

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smc0881@reddit

I been fully remote since 2019 before Covid when I switched to cyber doing DFIR consulting. I have no set hours and work when I want basically. As long as I am on important calls and my work gets done nobody really cares what I am doing otherwise.

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Crafty_Dog_4226@reddit

Covid changed this for me. I was in the office before for about eight hours a day. Now, I stay home until noon and go in, but some days I stay home. I would say that is pretty rare, maybe once a month I just completely work from home. But, I am the single IT infra guy for my company, no MSP, just on call 24x7 if something stinky hits the fan. That is my tradeoff and I am pretty OK with it and the people above me are OK with it too.

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ProfessionalEven296@reddit

Explain this concept of “an office” 😜 (Been remote for over 25 years, with only a few breaks in offices…)

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crimsonDnB@reddit

I haven't seen the inside of our office in about 4 years now.

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mrcluelessness@reddit

Yes. I don't get to work remotely at all.

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Asleep-Bother-8247@reddit

I go in 3x a week but if I go in on a Friday I generally leave during lunch - no one is there anyway.

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WiskeyUniformTango@reddit

I haven't been to an office in over 4 years.

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Blade4804@reddit

I’m in the office 3 days a week from 6:30 to 2:30 with no lunch break. 8 hours straight through so I can beat traffic home and to work

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dai_webb@reddit

I've not noticed that. I am in the office from 07:30-16:00 4 days a week. I like being in the office, working from home is lonely.

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