Mooney instruction/rental Utah

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steelethedeal@reddit

Congratulations on the opportunity. A Mooney is the greatest airplane you will ever fly. I have absolutely fallen in love with a M20C with a Johnson bar. I can’t speak for the diamonds but compared to the diamonds but to the Pipers and Cessna’s the controls will feel much much nicer. You won’t feel any slop or delays in the controls since there aren’t any cables or pulleys. It’s just a push pull tube and linkage system. The trim moves the whole tail.

Ok the plane itself is just like any other plane it flys, and it flys fast.

You absolutely have to be on speed to land. DO NOT FORCE IT. It will land when it’s ready. The plane loves to float and it will float a long ways.

The plane will descend and it will slow down. However it will not do both at the same time. You can’t just fly to an airport pull power, and land. You have to plan and begin your descents.

I did my instrument and commercial in a Mooney. Biggest tip for Instrument is do not let the plane get fast on the approach because it’s hard to slow it down once it gets up to speed.

As you can tell I’m very passionate about Mooney’s. They are the greatest planes ever and once you fly in one and learn them you will think the same thing. The bad thing about flying in a Mooney is once you do it you won’t want to fly in anything else.

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nightlanding@reddit

I more or less taught myself an M-20-C. I would make every effort to find one you can grab some dual in. Here are some hints:

The plane is not a Pitts Special with just one wing, it flies just fine and is not unstable. (actually a Pitts isn't THAT bad in cruise either, but you get my point)

They are slippery, speed control in all regimes is KEY. You cannot show up way hot and way high and not make a mess.

The landing gear is stiff and the plane sits low to the ground. It will not tolerate crappy landings, do not bang it on the runway any old way.

Landings require precise airspeed control. The margin between too slow and floating a mile is not big.

If you can land at X airspeed instead of X +/- 10 and don't bang on any random way, you will like the airplane.

Don't spin it, they are not intended for that - see very slippery.

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ltcterry@reddit

Is the owner competent in the airplane? Are you comfortable riding along if he took you for a flight?

In instrument flying there’s not really any need for you to fly the airplane. You should become familiar with Limitations and V-speeds. The first couple lessons are a great time to do fundamentals and make a pitch/power setting “numbers” chart for easily repeatable performance.

I had a guy want to do MEI and ATP in his own Seneca. A plane I had zero time in, while the owner had more than 80 hours.

We flew that airplane 20 hours in a week, with both checkrides on the same day. We kept it legal by making the first two flights an incredibly thorough flight review and IPC. Then I had five hours in type and could instruct towards a rating. Client and DPE both approved this plan.

(I also read the POH and a Seneca maneuvers guide. Part of the MEI training included the guy teaching me the airplane.)

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rFlyingTower@reddit

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I'm a CFI/CFII and I have someone wanting to get their instrument rating in an m20. The problem is, I'm only used to pipers, cessna's, and diamonds. Does anyone know of somewhere in Utah that I can fly a bit in a Mooney so I know what I'm doing?

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