That's a lot of walking from the parking lot to seaworld, maybe they sould add some sort of transport that stops on pre-designated spots, and goes on a schedule around the parking lot, so folks could have an easier time getting to and from their cars
And then, since you already have the transportation sorted, they could instead have it go to pre-designated spots in the surrounding city to pick up people before they get to the parking lot!
Why don't they build multi-floor parking lots? Do they like walking a kilometer instead of walking 50 meters and going up/down one flight of stairs? Do they like the aesthetic of concrete plain or something?
This is the San Diego park and they don't own the land, the city does so everything has to be approved by the city and the coastal commission. I doubt they're in a financial situation to make an expansion big enough to warrant that.
In regards to the orca enclosure it's about 6 million gallons and uses ocean water from Mission Bay that is filtered, used in the exhibit, and then filtered again before being returned to the bay. It would be impossible to fill and filter something the size of the parking lot at the depth needed for the orcas.
The San Diego park is the smallest one they have and has generally been more of a traditional aquarium/zoo compared to the other parks although its gotten more coasters in recent years.
Lol people just say anything about Americans and get upvoted. I bet in another thread someone could say “Americans are obsessed with parking garages and put them everywhere” and they would get upvoted.
Presumably the the age of the park and land they have to work with.
Disney World and Seaworld have a shit ton of land, so the open parking lot isn't a waste. Universal not so much so they have a crap load of garages (they also have a mall area that locals actually use).
In Disney's case they bought the land when Orlando was a swamp, and there are 100s of acres that are basically a wildlife preserve that they may never use. So a giant parking lot makes sense over garages.
I don't understand your reasoning; "[they have a lot of space] therefore [it's not a waste]". The hell?! How is it not a waste? How does it follows from the argument to the conclusion?
It's a waste of client's time and energy, it's a waste of aesthetic atmosphere around your attraction, it's a waste of logistical traffic (as people take more time going from/to their cars). I guess it's cheaper for the park, so that's what you mean by "makes sense"?
Exactly what I mean, yea. They already bought it and it works.
Also garages bottleneck so the logistics aren't that black and white, and in Disney's case they have doen studies on 'approaching the castle' hyping you up for your day at the park. So there are pros and cons though in general I'd agree more usable park space > parking lot.
Not that I disagree about the situation sucking for the animals but people who make posts like this have 0 understanding of the cost/efforts that go into maintaining that small green dot. Maintenance for larger sea life in particular can get pretty egregious. Trying to maintain an enclosure anywhere remotely near the size they are suggesting would be a Herculean undertaking.
The closest you get are sea pen sanctuaries but those also run into a lot of problems because there is much less you can actually control about the environment.
Parking structures are a hell of a lot more expensive to build. Public transport is basically bait for homeless and mentally ill people. Especially out in California which is like their Mecca. Plus it's expenisve for the taxpayer, and inconvenient for most people.
Pacific Electric Railway attempted to build a railroad through Los Angeles back in the 40s. The automotive and tire companies in the area bought them out, then built a freeway along the path it would've taken. The plot of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is based on it.
There is a good video on YouTube from climate town if you want to learn more about American parking lots. There's not really a standard for how they are built and the size they are. Apparently, sim city also tried to incorporate realistic parking lot needs and it turns out it makes the city ugly and everything gets exponentially more expensive so they scrapped it.
If you actually met a orca, you would know they deserve that fate, they are the assholes of the ocean. Them, and THE GODDAMN SUNFISH.
https://youtu.be/ybFfNI65uEA?si=5vtBLRHAZZNm31J7
I can't imagine being a landmonkey who's willing to talk shit on something bigger, stronger, smarter, more socially capable, and has less body fat% than yourself.
Dolphins and Orcas figured out language, tool use, and pack hunting way before humans did and the only thing keeping you out of their cage is them not having thumbs.
KihiraLove@reddit
That's a lot of walking from the parking lot to seaworld, maybe they sould add some sort of transport that stops on pre-designated spots, and goes on a schedule around the parking lot, so folks could have an easier time getting to and from their cars
nyaasgem@reddit
you mean p-p-public????
yehiko@reddit
No. We'll call them PODS
Dont_Touch_My_Nachos@reddit
Go Back to Hungary, Adam
yehiko@reddit
who the f is adam
Dont_Touch_My_Nachos@reddit
Adamsomething is a Hungarian YouTuber who makes this public transport joke very often
yehiko@reddit
you dont remember his last name?
Dont_Touch_My_Nachos@reddit
I don't reserve brain power for Hungarians
The_Knife_Pie@reddit
And then, since you already have the transportation sorted, they could instead have it go to pre-designated spots in the surrounding city to pick up people before they get to the parking lot!
AvailableSimper@reddit
wtf dude thats socialist
NorthKoreanKnuckles@reddit
Orcas are horible creatures.
Dont_Touch_My_Nachos@reddit
Giraffes are heartless creatures
kaspa181@reddit
Why don't they build multi-floor parking lots? Do they like walking a kilometer instead of walking 50 meters and going up/down one flight of stairs? Do they like the aesthetic of concrete plain or something?
doom1282@reddit
This is the San Diego park and they don't own the land, the city does so everything has to be approved by the city and the coastal commission. I doubt they're in a financial situation to make an expansion big enough to warrant that.
In regards to the orca enclosure it's about 6 million gallons and uses ocean water from Mission Bay that is filtered, used in the exhibit, and then filtered again before being returned to the bay. It would be impossible to fill and filter something the size of the parking lot at the depth needed for the orcas.
The San Diego park is the smallest one they have and has generally been more of a traditional aquarium/zoo compared to the other parks although its gotten more coasters in recent years.
TheFrenchSavage@reddit
Well, if your city park looks like a parking lot, you kinda deserve it.
Really? How about dig a big hole and put a bunch of oysters in there?
eossfounder@reddit
If it was full of oysters there'd be no room for orcas.
Lucas_2234@reddit
If it's technologically impossible to keep orcas in a halfway decent sized enclosure, maybe we shouldn't have them in the zoo?
carizzz@reddit
Sorry but the largest pool there is the show pool which is roughly 2 million gallons. Also fesh water does not make it okay.
Moo_Rhy@reddit
Land is free. Concrete is expensive. Also many Americans seem to fear parking garages and think they're dangerous.
SyntheticDuckFlavour@reddit
holy smoothbrain batman
Rubmynippleplease@reddit
Lol people just say anything about Americans and get upvoted. I bet in another thread someone could say “Americans are obsessed with parking garages and put them everywhere” and they would get upvoted.
THEPIGWHODIDIT@reddit
They are if you live on the fault line of an earthquake zone
Moo_Rhy@reddit
More than any other building?
Consistent-Throat130@reddit
I highly suspect they're built to different structural standards. Of all the differences that come to mind:
Being open they probably don't need to face anywhere near the same level of lateral wind force; vs an enclosed structure of similar size.
That alone could make the difference in a building's resistance to the lateral forces experienced in a quake.
THEPIGWHODIDIT@reddit
The Californian coast, with LA and San Diego particularly along there.
kaspa181@reddit
okay, earthquakes genuinely makes perfect sense, thanks!
thr33beggars@reddit
Why don’t they just move the garage over a few feet so it’s not on the line
BurningMoths@reddit
notagainrly@reddit
Land is free? Has anyone else see this comment?
rhen_var@reddit
I haven’t
Good_Smile@reddit
Land is free? Where?
Nakkiniemi@reddit
In the land of the free 🦅
HotChilliWithButter@reddit
In the land of the free, everything costs
SubstituteCS@reddit
Land of the fee
ShadowNick@reddit
einsatzpoopen@reddit
In le Europe we are le very smart, much less meters to walk to ze seaworld
acart005@reddit
Presumably the the age of the park and land they have to work with.
Disney World and Seaworld have a shit ton of land, so the open parking lot isn't a waste. Universal not so much so they have a crap load of garages (they also have a mall area that locals actually use).
In Disney's case they bought the land when Orlando was a swamp, and there are 100s of acres that are basically a wildlife preserve that they may never use. So a giant parking lot makes sense over garages.
kaspa181@reddit
I don't understand your reasoning; "[they have a lot of space] therefore [it's not a waste]". The hell?! How is it not a waste? How does it follows from the argument to the conclusion?
It's a waste of client's time and energy, it's a waste of aesthetic atmosphere around your attraction, it's a waste of logistical traffic (as people take more time going from/to their cars). I guess it's cheaper for the park, so that's what you mean by "makes sense"?
acart005@reddit
Exactly what I mean, yea. They already bought it and it works.
Also garages bottleneck so the logistics aren't that black and white, and in Disney's case they have doen studies on 'approaching the castle' hyping you up for your day at the park. So there are pros and cons though in general I'd agree more usable park space > parking lot.
kaspa181@reddit
Interesting, I didn't even think about approach anticipation.
Absolutely it's not black and white, agreed.
Yellowdog727@reddit
Because we don't properly incentivize efficient use of land through.
We should be taxing the land the parking is on based on the value of the land and not the cumulative value of the property.
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit
Walkable parking lots.
Nonexistent_Purpose@reddit
walking a what?
kaspa181@reddit
247 medium sized boulder lengths
notagainrly@reddit
The city stops them. It took disneyland forever to get all the permits and permission etc.
TheDwiin@reddit
It's cruel how we treat those dolphins
sorryiamnotoriginal@reddit
Not that I disagree about the situation sucking for the animals but people who make posts like this have 0 understanding of the cost/efforts that go into maintaining that small green dot. Maintenance for larger sea life in particular can get pretty egregious. Trying to maintain an enclosure anywhere remotely near the size they are suggesting would be a Herculean undertaking.
The closest you get are sea pen sanctuaries but those also run into a lot of problems because there is much less you can actually control about the environment.
TheHangryCatepillar@reddit
saddam hiding spot
AngusLynch09@reddit
America sure loves giant open spaces for carparks.
God forbid they built a parking structure. Or, you know, public transport.
fluffynuckels@reddit
This is cheaper then a carpark
undreamedgore@reddit
Parking structures are a hell of a lot more expensive to build. Public transport is basically bait for homeless and mentally ill people. Especially out in California which is like their Mecca. Plus it's expenisve for the taxpayer, and inconvenient for most people.
ProblemEfficient6502@reddit
Pacific Electric Railway attempted to build a railroad through Los Angeles back in the 40s. The automotive and tire companies in the area bought them out, then built a freeway along the path it would've taken. The plot of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is based on it.
TheRealYM@reddit
San Diego’s public transport is almost nonexistent. Until they build an actual suitable public transport system, we need big parking lots.
TheSwecurse@reddit
I've come to understand most of american infrastructure woes is a legacy of decades of subtle corruption, beaurocracy and aggressive lobbying
timetobeanon@reddit
wow, couldn't they take the train? big waste of land
Dependent_Bake1768@reddit
Parking for trains would be even bigger
fluffynuckels@reddit
Big if true
Quirinus84@reddit
They should just park in the green spot and use the orcasfor transport
jonatna@reddit
There is a good video on YouTube from climate town if you want to learn more about American parking lots. There's not really a standard for how they are built and the size they are. Apparently, sim city also tried to incorporate realistic parking lot needs and it turns out it makes the city ugly and everything gets exponentially more expensive so they scrapped it.
RedSander_Br@reddit
If you actually met a orca, you would know they deserve that fate, they are the assholes of the ocean. Them, and THE GODDAMN SUNFISH. https://youtu.be/ybFfNI65uEA?si=5vtBLRHAZZNm31J7
RipDove@reddit
I can't imagine being a landmonkey who's willing to talk shit on something bigger, stronger, smarter, more socially capable, and has less body fat% than yourself.
Dolphins and Orcas figured out language, tool use, and pack hunting way before humans did and the only thing keeping you out of their cage is them not having thumbs.
RedSander_Br@reddit
r/woosh....
UFCLulu@reddit
Dude what the actual hell lma
SeingaltUNo@reddit
Ameriwhales parking two miles away from the entrance. Make it make sense.
PUNCH_KNIGHT@reddit
Everyone is miserable
SmoothPimp85@reddit
Fake: Anon is nowhere near as beautiful as the orca, both externally and internally.
Gay: Anon wants to be parked a lot.
beegproblemzzz@reddit
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