Does anyone else feel like this?

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NiceSupermarket7724@reddit

Feels like masking around neurotypical people to me.

Familiar but taxing.

Harmful and draining in large doses.

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We must form survival communities now, yesterday, last year. There is a tiny window where we can communicate and organize to form communities in SAFE ZONES away from high population densities and infrastructure. My guess is 2030-2032 is our deadline. That means forming the community and buying all the resources we would need for the rest of our lives until the cataclysms come in the early 2040s.

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Vegetaman916@reddit

Are you me? Because you sound exactly like me.

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

It's me KAKAROT. lol awesome username and profile virginiaaa. But really I'm trying to join a community asap within the next year. Like minded people/old souls are grouping up and it's no accident. We are getting dreams and vibes about these things because there's literally not much time left and higher powers/our intuition are sounding the alarm to hurry up and I don't want to ignore it.

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Vegetaman916@reddit

We grouped up here in 2019, 15 of us. Best decision ever.

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

Amazing. How can I find a similar group if you were to do it over again without any friends? What were things you wished you did differently/enhanced earlier?

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Vegetaman916@reddit

I actually have a video mostly about that topic...

Without at least a few deep relationships to help form a base, it can definitely be a tougher proposition, but still doable.

One aspect is specifically choosing the kinds of people you are exposed to, rather than letting circumstances decide. Trying to find like-minded preppers among the random people at work, school, or in your neighborhood can be challenging. But, if you specifically go out to places where they are more likely to be, or to do activities where they are more likely to be found, then you increase your chances.

I am always looking to expand my own network outside of my group, and I have found a few things specifically that make it easier.

One is volunteering with environmental cleanup efforts and such. Those "clean up the beach" things and stuff like that. It is a great way to meet a collection of people that are at least somewhat environmentally conscious and open to learning more.

Another way is classes. Looking to expand skills is always a number one prep, and taking classes on everything from wilderness survival to archery is a great way to meet others who may be similarly inclined.

Finally, there are campgrounds, and the little communities that temporarily form in the big ones. Also, the RV nomad community, which is getting bigger by the day.

Just a few ideas...

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

Phenomenal reply, thank you for those thoughtful ideas and solutions. I will check out your YouTube video as well.

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N0N0TA1@reddit

I'm in a red state. I'm basically living the plot of 1984.

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floopadoop37@reddit

In Missouri here, I get it.

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JagBak73@reddit

The people here are as dumb as a bag of manure. Present company excluded.

Check out who the new mayor of Cape Giraudau is for your daily dose Missuruh idiocracy.

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TanneriteTed@reddit

Illinois welcomes you.

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JagBak73@reddit

Still dreaming of Illinois absorbing St. Louis.

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AngusScrimm---------@reddit

I think Cape Girardeau was Rush Limbaugh's home town.

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greybenson23@reddit

Commiserating with you from Nebraska.

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Right-Cause9951@reddit

I would like to know more

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N0N0TA1@reddit

You just can't tell who you can speak freely with.

Sometimes it feels like they're waiting for some system through which they can report you for your thought crimes if they're not just ready to be openly violent because they think they won't get in trouble for it in the current political climate.

I'm in the state where that MAGA dad shot his daughter scott-free.

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Gyirin@reddit

MAGA dad shot his daughter scott-free.

Details?

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N0N0TA1@reddit

https://share.google/aimode/fc1SV9ZuMvVls8z5f

Ignore the AI if you want, you can just scroll to the bottom it has all the links to various news sources reporting on it.

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13143@reddit

My dad is MAGA. When Biden was in office, he went on and on about how we had to trim the deficit, and we can't keep spending. Now that Trump is sending the national deficit to heights never before seen, my dad is oblivious to it. Because Fox News doesn't talk about it.

Same with gas prices. All Biden's fault. Not a word when its actually directly Trump's fault.

All my maga coworkers are concerned about Bill Gates and the Clintons being in the Epstein files. They're completely oblivious to Trump's involvement.

The algorithms and propaganda news networks have done a very good job at teaching their consumers to ignore what they see, and only believe what they're told.

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Limp_Meet1321@reddit

Yep, I moved to Kentucky because I couldn't afford New England anymore. I feel ya.

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Purplealegria@reddit

I feel you there.

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psyduckhunt@reddit

Yeah, I get big "2+2 = 5" energy living here in Texas.

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night_rain7@reddit

It’s like that here in Alaska too.

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ZenApe@reddit

Same in Georgia. It's maddening.

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TheWeeWeeWrangler@reddit

With the way rent and job hunting works now you can't just pack up your bags and move somewhere fresh. Moving is fucking exhausting.

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Me0wgatr0n@reddit

I prefer to talk about the insanity to everyone. We all should be uncomfortable.

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Valuable_Falcon6885@reddit

The subreddits for critical therapy have been heating up with me subscribers mentioning that psychiatry and psychology can't contribute individualising extreme systemic issues.

I've gone full on and ask people "what would you do if modern life changed forever?" A surprising amount are into the chat but unfortunately live too far to form community.

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Proper_Geologist9026@reddit

I mean we don't have to open that can of worms here, realistically though... There is no real therapy that's going to solve that disconnect.

Even the gold standard like Hospicing Modernity, while it does a great job of outlining the problem. It's at great pains to explain, there is no "fix". Knowing is suffering. Knowing is grieving.

Ironically when we circle back around on it all the same inconsequential "self help" that we all know and roll our eyes at when it's dished up by a psychiatrist. That's as good as it gets.

Control your sphere of influence, don't waste your energy on anything you can't influence. Try to find joy.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

Im so confused but I really want to understand what you're saying

Why wouldnt therapy solve the disconnect?

If there is no fix what do we do? Wait to die? Its so hard to keep going when things feel so hopeless

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Proper_Geologist9026@reddit

I'm not a therapist so please don't take this as any kind of gospel. This is just my opinion as I currently see it. Sorry it turned into a rambling mess. 😁

Being "collapse aware" or a doomer or a pessimist or whatever you want to call it. It's all about people believing the most likely futures are bad ones.

People don't like that. People don't want you to say that their kids will grow up poorer than they did. They don't want you to say their life and your life are likely causing unnecessary damage to the planet for personal comfort & luxury etc.

If this is how you perceive the future the likely end point of that is developing a Pre Traumatic Stress Disorder. You're not reliving a horrific past memory. You're envisioning a horrific future.

How does all this apply to therapy? Therapy is really just the practice of applying tools and coping mechanisms to help you regulate your emotions.

At it's heart it's always just going to be those same basic ideas. Focus on what you can control. Control what you focus on.

What therapy can't do is fix any of the existential problems you're worrying about. And it can't suddenly make everyone else agree with you that things are bad.

What it will do is allow you to better cope as you gaze into the abyss and regulate how long you stare. Ideally you're actually learning to balance awareness with perspective.

So this means you've got a few options;

You change your mind. Decide it's not actually as bad as you've made yourself believe. Which is possible. A lot of collapse aware people have some wildly unnecessary levels of pessimism about how bad and how quickly things will get worse.
Embrace absurdity. Find meaning in your life, regardless of the long term outcomes beyond your control.

Maybe you devote yourself to a higher cause? Maybe you just accept the pointlessness and apply your own meaning. a la Camus & "the myth of Sisyphus".

just because overshoot will mean X doesn't mean your actions are pointless. Because the very act of you choosing them imbues them with purpose regardless of the result.

Spiral into a selfish hedonism. Because life is meaningless and the only purpose of existence is to follow base impulse.
Suicide. Very bleak. Best not to dwell on it. Again read "the myth of Sisyphus". For a good discussion on the topic.
I can't think of what other options there are but if you've got one that doesn't fit the above. Put it here.

To boil it all down. Being collapse aware is really just a more depressing version of being aware of your own mortality. We all die. At some point we have to decide how we cope with that statement.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

I kind of get what you mean but it's very hard to accept something this big and scary and move on iykwim? Will things get better? Is everyone going to be okay or are we just waiting for the human race to get enslaved by the oligarchs and then its too late?

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AdInformal3519@reddit

I personally believe it's already too late to do something. If we have done something in 70s we might have been in a better position even if we had done something in 90s we might have had a chance but now, I am not sure. I don't know how we prcoess that. We just have to accept that imo

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

its too late for what? climate change or oligarchy takeover?

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AdInformal3519@reddit

It's too late for climate change i feel. Oligarchy we can still do something imo

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Proper_Geologist9026@reddit

Yep that's why accepting some form of collapse or decline is a bitch. Is it scary? Absolutely. Scares the shit out of me all the time. Because I can't tell you the future, I wish I could but that's just not reality.

I can tell you that things are bad and when I look at what's happening and what has to happen to correct course. I think the odds don't look good for us.

That's why it's so hard to deal with and why I equate it to a fear of our own mortality and death.

It's just beyond our rational mind to accept death as inevitable and sit comfortably with that statement forever. Because it's not set in stone, you're not dead, the future isn't certain. That's why it's impossible to just accept it and never have to think about it again.

You're experiencing waves of grief, but unlike the death of a loved one. Each wave isn't smaller and more manageable than the last.

Each wave is bigger than the last one, harder to ignore. If you're anything like me you're going to fluctuate from denial to acceptance with every wave.

If you figure out an answer that gets you out of the loop. Please do let me know.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

You're right :( i really hope things get better..

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Crisis_Averted@reddit

here's my metaphor:

me: I'm thirsty.

friends and family: you should go to therapy.

me: I'm dying of thirst.

therapists: let's talk about it. how does it make you feel? let's find some frameworks that will help you with this disconnect from healthy people. and try these pills.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

then what do we do?

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Curious-Row2410@reddit

We don't do anything other than find our individual coping methods, which is what therapy is in this context.

Therapy is by definition a means of addressing our own internal state, while the roots of most people's mental problems currently lie in the world's physical state and to a lesser extent the material conditions of society, which aren't quite physical reality but are closer to that than our mindsets are.

There are problems that have no solutions - 20th and 21st century technofetishism have made us forget that fact.

Some people may disagree with me on the intractability of our physical problems but personally I view them as too big for addressing by a bunch of squabbling apes.

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Ooogabooga42@reddit

That's the problem. It's not something we can individually solve. Though I try to live as the change I want to see in the world as much as I can.

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Valuable_Falcon6885@reddit

There is no real therapy that's going to solve that disconnect.

You're right, but I cherrypick tools from therapy for my individual psychological change

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Proper_Geologist9026@reddit

Yeah it's not quite right to say the tools of therapy don't help.

I was trying to say that good therapy isn't going to somehow make you an "adjusted" member of society again.

It's one thing to help someone through psychosis and another to break someone's world view that while grim is largely based on fact.

Being a doomer may be pessimistic but it's a factually defensible opinion not a complete separation from reality.

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DonCupid91@reddit

Mark Fisher talks about this. The system is driving everyone insane and then we're gaslit into thinking there is something wrong internally instead of externally.

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Valuable_Falcon6885@reddit

It's a great grift, and I've fallen for it

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muffinjuicecleanse@reddit

https://www.madinamerica.com/2019/05/young-koala-mental-health-problem/

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

I dont understand what you mean by "individualising extreme systemic issues"?

what do you think we should do?

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Valuable_Falcon6885@reddit

Traditional psychology and psychiatry often frame distress as an individual problem, even when the root causes are social, economic, or political. That can turn structural harms like poverty, racism, abuse, and precarious work into personal failings.

Action points: build community-based supports, assess social stressors, push for policy changes alongside treatment, prioritze the safety of victims over the reputation of proven predators, etc.

A more critical approach treats suffering as both personal and systemic, not just something to fix inside one person.

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adamwintle@reddit

Which sub-reddits are for critical therapy?

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Valuable_Falcon6885@reddit

r/criticalpsychiatry, r/therapycritical but very overlapping with the ones from individual practitioners

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

what is critical therapy

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Valuable_Falcon6885@reddit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_psychology

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outed@reddit

Hypernormalization. Everyone is feeling it, but they act like nothing is happening. It happened in Soviet Russia as well.

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fedfuzz1970@reddit

I hope this doesn't sound too pollyana. Take on survival as a project, have a plan, do a little each day, connect with others for shared resources. You will be way ahead of 90% of the others. Relocate, if possible, look into DIY solar, gardening, firearms for protection, water purification and storage--be the one that the family looks to for their needs. Everybody can do it in some form or another. We are in our 80's, well-prepared as we can be in an apartment. You have better options being younger, whether you recognize them or not--do not let society's malaise infect you--have a plan and carry it out.

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Airilsai@reddit

"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." — Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Hungry_Student_@reddit

I am unwell for sure

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Ok-Zookeepergame5245@reddit

Perfect quote.

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SilliusS0ddus@reddit

first time I read that was in 2021 on r/LateStageCapitalism

Back then I expected a cyberpunk dystopia but not something this completely unhinged

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errie_tholluxe@reddit

Ayup

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nicolette333@reddit

Mainer?

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errie_tholluxe@reddit

No but I grew up in the far north east 🥴

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Purplealegria@reddit

Wow, this is the damn truth!

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cr0ft@reddit

I mean, sure. If you actually think about this, read up on things like a resource-based economy, realize that capitalism is actually not the only option, realize that basing the world on competition instead of cooperation is insanity and that concept alone is what's kiling our species and allowing lunatics to gain power (lunatics will step on any face, kill any granny to get power in competition)... well, then you start to realize that we could have a hardly even imagined golden age right now. One where everyone is fed, housed and educated. One where a massive percentage of our resources above that go to R&D and advancing our knowledge.

We'd already have a moon base, because the entire planet would have been cooperating.

There would be no USA spending $2700 billion (which is going up I'm sure due to the Iran catastrofuck) annually on war. If we spent $2700 billion annually on NASA, we'd fucking well have warp drive by now.

Instead, our planet is a festering dying hellhole, inhabited by mostly depressed or desperate (or starving and dying - maybe all of those four) and our "civilization" if you can call it that is collapsing and the climate is going to kill us off.

Good times.

It's a little hard to stay motivated to go to work to do some bullshit when all this is going on.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

How do you stay motivated? I can barely get out of bed while knowing all of this

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qimerra@reddit

Knowing there's less time and higher stakes makes me appreciate life more. It fast-tracked my acceptance of death and now I'm free to revel in the beauty of existence. Going down fighting together seems like a more meaningful life than the death-denying consumeristic trance that was my life before.

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cr0ft@reddit

Honestly, I don't. Trying to figure out a way out of working for a living and getting some time in just existing. At the end of the day though, the planet won't collapse suddenly or immediately, I fully expect to live out my lifetime in relative comfort.

But I'm pretty much phoning it in at work most days, and I barely have energy to even have hobbies. Once I do get out there on the motorcycle that does help, but it's been a loong fucking winter.

I'd enjoy going nomadic a while, seeing the planet a little more before I croak.

But well.. how do any of us stay motivated ever? Even if things were great, we live, we do some shit, we die. Some get lucky enough to do something memorable and meaningful, but even they die. One of those philosophical questions we all have to wrestle with.

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DonCupid91@reddit

How old are you? I very much doubt the quality of life you are experiencing will be sustainable for much longer. I'm not saying complete destitution, but long and hard times are very much fast approaching.

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cr0ft@reddit

Middle aged now.There's a ton of inertia in the system, I don't think it's just gonna go from fine-ish to "oh shit", it's a gradual slide down into oh shit territory, a slide we're already on.

I don't personally think things will become extremely dire in the next 10-20 years for the affluent nations but yeah, definitely it will keep deteriorating.

But maybe I'm also a hopium and copium victim to some extent, we'll see.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

Same, I live in Singapore so a lot of this may end up not affecting me but I still feel guilty for that. I could turn off the news and go on acting like none of this is happening except I physically can't, especially after how much I've read and learnt so far. Im also 18, so i feel like i dont have the mental capacity to keep going or do anything tangible or worthy. And the fact that I'm not that fond of living anyway makes all this a lot harder but I dont want to off myself because that would be really painful to my family and friends.

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defianceofone@reddit

How did you find out about collapse? Is it common for your age/area?

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

Not really?

There's a few people in my country that I know are this concerned with bigger picture things but its not too common. Theyre usually a few years older than me, but somehow don't seem as bothered by it as I am, but still bothered.

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SubstituteCS@reddit

My other option is to be homeless and starve. Not starving is my motivator.

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iforgothowtohuman@reddit

Someone mentioned somewhere that star trek was unique in that it was an imagined better future, while most other fiction based in the future is markedly dystopian.. and yet even in that utopian fantasy, things had to get really, really fuckin dark before humanity corrected their course and started working together. It may be insane, but I choose to believe there is hope for our species. Probably some time in the far, far future, after the collapse, a small group of survivors emerges from the caves they lived in for generations. They have passed down the story of the downfall of their once great global empire and they finally understand that competition with one another will only bring about another cataclysmic fall, and they set to work cultivating the planet instead of abusing it.

Or maybe I just need to write that story, idk. Torn between that one and the story about an alien race hiding in our oceans in their ships, pushing us to terraform the surface for them because they can't survive in our atmosphere as it currently exists. That one I'm sure is my brain trying to rationalize the situation, because I genuinely cannot fathom how the fuck we could be doing this to ourselves.

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digdog303@reddit

The bell riots in ds9 are hilariously quaint. Imagine what would happen to a black man with a shotgun making demands these days

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ScriptumVitaEst@reddit

Check out “A Canticle for Leibowitz” by Walter M. Miller. Not exactly the story you’re imagining (and my recollection of it is fuzzed by the fact it’s been at least 35 years since I read it), but it definitely explores some of the ideas you’re talking about regarding preserving knowledge after a crash that allows humans to rebuild civilization again, hopefully better.

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BrightCandle@reddit

Humans genuinely are just that collectively stupid and evil. There are signs all around us that we ignore about the level of depravity of our species but you can't unsee them once they are exposed.

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BayouGal@reddit

BTW, the asking price for next year’s Pentagon budget is $1.5 TRILLION 🙄

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idonotknowwhototrust@reddit

"2700 billion" is a larger number than "1.5 trillion"

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mephalasweb@reddit

Eh I've felt this way for years, which just increased after Trump's first election and realizing folks have zero concept of generational survival beyond capitalistic "hurt others, get resources, repeat". 10 years of that and, honestly, I'm just relieved I've gone from feeling insane alone to welcoming people to the club. At least there's opportunities to organize for better when people ACTUALLY know something is wrong and that the thing that's wrong isn't a random marginalized person.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

how have you stayed sane? im 18 and feel so alone and scared and I feel like i cant function in my day to day because it feels pointless and i just want to go to eternal sleep away from all this

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mephalasweb@reddit

I haven't: I have depression and anxiety, which I manage with meds. If you could stay sane in this environment, something would genuinely be wrong with you fundamentally as a person, because you'd have to accept a scale of abuse, extraction, and violence as normal.

I'm 34 and didn't have the luxury of being sheltered by how horrendous the world can be since childhood because, when your multiply marginalized and Black, not understanding your reality can be deadly or make you wish it was. Accepting reality, surrounding myself with people who do, seeking out compassionate folk, refusing to tolerate being gaslit, refusing to tolerate people who gaslight me into my life, living authentically, celebrating my wins, and self celebration/love is what keeps me going outside of just having good meds.

Lastly, it helps to learn that the systems we have in place now are a recent modern invention and that we are always capable of returning to healthier traditions while cultivating what we need to thrive in more healthy and compassionate ways. I've seen what folks are capable of and know these issues can be addressed. So long as people choose privilege first, others last, they won't - and I'm going to live miserably pretending they aren't ridiculously selfish opportunists when I can be building a life I deserve with others who get it.

I hope this helps you. Your young and I get your position totally. It wasn't until reaching my 30s, something I never expected, where I decided I want to live better and in alignment with a future humanity is capable of. I hope you have that realization sooner though: it's a bit of a pain adjusting in your 30s in comparison to when your younger!

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

thank you for your advice ♥️

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Distinguishedflyer@reddit

i've solved this problem by never talking to another human. Most people are fucking cowards, if I'm feeling less generous. It's all denial of death.

It's an easy default state to notmalize this nightmare.

Every single person I used to have in my life has gone this way, to the net effect of shunning me when I had tough times realizing what the hell's been going on. They're all cruising along still in their happy little comfy lives and it'll be interesting to see how they deal when all the electricity fails and it's 120° out.

I'm really angry if I'm honest. You speak the truth and people leave you to die.

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

It's always been this way. It's just how this prison planet system works. Rest assured your soul and moral compass is still strong meaning you are still connected to God and are remembering what you had forgotten from previous lives. Keep going, there are the small minority of us trying to band together and form communities in safe zones while we still have the time to gather resources.

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Distinguishedflyer@reddit

thank you for trying to comfort me.

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Purplealegria@reddit

“You speak the truth and people leave you to die.”

That has been my experience…people just don't want to hear the truth.

They would rather live a pretty lie in complete denial than hear you say a word of the ugly filthy reality, even when it staring them right in the face.

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

People are usually silenced or killed for speaking the truth. That tells you a lot about this fallen corrupt reality we find ourselves in. I like to think our souls chose to go behind enemy lines to try and inspire the lost souls we come across. Like what if we ventured into hell to offer salvation to those who never knew it was possible? There's a reason we live right now and have this high level of awareness, we should do something with if before its too late.

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Distinguishedflyer@reddit

yep. I have no family or friends anymore.

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Purplealegria@reddit

Im so sorry….😢😞🫂❤️

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Distinguishedflyer@reddit

thanks, it's painful and frightening every day.

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twotimefind@reddit

Angry only affects your headspace. Try to accept it and move on. I've been in the same boat.

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Kaldorain@reddit

Fuck these stupid apes. They were here before me, and they continue to destroy everything I love/care for. I accept they are idiots. I look forward to watching them fail; as they've done unto to me.

My true friends? They helped me out. I'm tight AF with those peeps now. Half of my friend group though? Gone, and I couldn't be happier about it.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

how do you accept it and move on?

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vorak@reddit

Start asking the deep questions about who you are. Start working through your own shadow and deconstructing every aspect of your existence. What's left when every thought about yourself is let go of?

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calico134@reddit

In my experience, there's not a secret ingredient. You accept that it's not okay and that it's not going to be okay, and that's it. You just have to try to focus on what you can do right now and try to not worry about the future. Part of acceptance is having bad days, too. Does that make sense?

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Upper_Luck1348@reddit

I’ve accepted that 95% of the people I’ve known had no clue and still have no clue. strangers with their faces glued to phones makes everyone appear to be the same indistinct blob of former human form.

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Ok-Zookeepergame5245@reddit

Yeah unfortunately the majority of people are clueless despite being glued to a device that can literally tell them about all major events that are ruining the world right now. I went to get camping lanterns today for when the power outages start and the guy in the shop asked me if I was going camping and I had to explain to him that we are about to experience the worst energy crisis in history. He had absolutely no clue what I was on about and only just about knew about the Iran war but nothing about the Straight of Hormuz or how it will be affecting us.

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maddomesticscientist@reddit

This reminds me of when I was shopping for supplies prior to that big ice storm that hit us. Id gone to the nearby city instead of local because I wanted to hit up the craft store. Due to prior experience I knew we'd be stuck in our house for days, possibly without power. People either had no idea, scoffed and said "is not going to get that bad", or outright mocked me.

The damage was catastrophic. People in the city were without power for literal weeks. Here we were locked in by ice for 12 days. By some miracle our power didn't go out but I prepared for it. That was a pleasant surprise.

I often wondered how those people fared.

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Bergara@reddit

Yesterday I told a few friends and colleagues that if SHTF in the whole Iran ultimatum thing that they should rush the supermarkets and stock up on non perishables. They all genuinely thought I was trying to be funny.

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Ok-Zookeepergame5245@reddit

People always laugh when we try and give them good advice. They still haven’t learnt from Covid.

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Purplealegria@reddit

I so feel you on this…It was like that for me at the end of 2024 with the then incoming dump shitstorm and how they were going to rig the election and this fucker would be reinstalled…most people… even the ones closest to me….thought I was nuts when I said despite the polls, that this demon is going to worm his way back in.

Yet here we are.

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g00fyg00ber741@reddit

This is what I have the hardest time reckoning with. How do these people have access to the same info and just successfully ignore it? Does it only eat away at me because I’m neurodivergent or have an anxiety disorder? Tbh sounds like the disorder is helping and preferable to the lack of one at this point.

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stoptalking8871@reddit

This is it - glued to their phones and no clue what’s going on in the world - all of my coworkers 🤦🏻‍♀️

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1098duc_w_the_termi@reddit

Does the 3rd domino in line really know that the first domino fell? No, it only finds out when the second one hits it. The US is like 20th+ domino.

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Ok-Zookeepergame5245@reddit

Good point

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lost_horizons@reddit

Excellent analogy

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ToiIetGhost@reddit

Can I DM you about this?

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Ok-Zookeepergame5245@reddit

Yeah ok.

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ikindapoopedmypants@reddit

My coworkers deadass watch ai slop videos on their phones and show them to each other bc they think they're funny. It's literally the most low IQ Facebook meme level shit I've ever seen in my fucking life.

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kittykatmila@reddit

Bunch of actual NPC’s walking around.

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BBR0DR1GUEZ@reddit

Twenty years ago, my mom used to come home from work at her teaching job and tell me how she and the other teachers were obligated by the administrators to pass children who couldn't read or write or even think effectively for their age range. I remember thinking how devastating this would be for the country if our national educational policy reflected my mom's experience.

It appears this policy was indeed the case across the country and now we have a population largely comprised of people just smart enough to figure out which direction to turn their wrenches. Only problem is there are no wrenches anymore, just robots. What are we gonna do with all these dumb bunnies?

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ikindapoopedmypants@reddit

This is gonna sound so thathappened but I have a vivid memory from when I was like 8 or 9 maybe? and I learned about this "no child left behind" thing. I remember saying to my mom "wow, I'm scared for this generation". She laughed at me and said something like "you don't even know the half of it". My mom and I rarely get along, but that is one thing she was absolutely spot on about.

Problem is, you ask what we're going to do, but this is the system they created. This is working as intended. They want stupid people, so the stupid will vote in people like trump.

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Upper_Luck1348@reddit

That last paragraph sums it up

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BayouGal@reddit

No Child Left Behind - Unfortunately, the reality was ALL the kids getting behind. And we are still doing this.

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Purplealegria@reddit

Yep..those poor dumb ass Chickens have now come home to roost.

To all of our detriment and peril.

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BayouGal@reddit

People have lost a lot of IQ points due to repeated Covid infections.

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bluemagic124@reddit

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sheeple.png

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digdog303@reddit

You can easily disprove this is the case by trying to have a conversation with the average person you find outside.

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Decloudo@reddit

No one in that picture has its brain hooked to a screen dripping dopamine directly into their brain.

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bluemagic124@reddit

It’s not a 1 for 1 match, but we’re all on reddit. We’re all doing the exact same thing as the people glued to their phones as we scroll through this site. That’s the point.

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No-Candidate6257@reddit

Sorry, but this is simply bullshit.

A person who recognizes capitalism for what it is, who acknowledges climate change and who opposes US/NATO/Israeli imperialism and their endless wars and genocides while supporting Marxism-Leninism... isn't the same as the people reciting propaganda from Western "news" media about how the NATO-West is free and democratic or how the Soviet Union and China are authoritankie bad guy comic book villains while whining about "dem immigants" or a government forcing them to wear masks and get vaccinations or to pay more taxes for using gasoline is Jorjor Well Literally 1984 Totaliauthoritarian Hitler.

It's completely absurd to promote a false equivalence that puts right wingers and left wingers on the same level.

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bluemagic124@reddit

Yeah, I didn’t say anything about politics or capitalism. You’re reading way into it my guy

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Decloudo@reddit

No we do not.

Im using old reddit on a pc with RES and adblockers.

Reddit is just a forum to me, no feeds, no ads, no chats, no social media anything thats not what forums where anyways. I alone decide what I see.

I dont even see awards.

Im also not randomly scrolling, im diving a few minutes into a specific sub and then are on my way again, actually doing something. Its a short break, not hour long scrolling sessions.

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bluemagic124@reddit

Well fair enough. You’re definitely better off doing it that way.

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MaddogBC@reddit

I can't understand scrolling on a phone. Sitting there hunched over staring at a tiny screen. I don't use the phone for anything but texts when I'm home but even then discord is preferred. I use an ultra widescreen monitor. Social media is the death of human culture, reddit has got to be the least intrusive version of it.

Oldreddit or death.

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BayouGal@reddit

Yes. I actually learn things from Reddit. Among those things are starting points for deep dives into knowledge, sometimes even useful knowledge!

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Purplealegria@reddit

Thank you. i am not being fed this crap.

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Evening_Grass_8073@reddit

C'mon, don't be like this guy.

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urlach3r@reddit

The Cassandra Complex is hitting hard these days. I've given up trying to engage any of my coworkers about anything climate or collapse related. I always get the blank stare and a "lol, wut?"

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SilliusS0ddus@reddit

how have I never heard the term Cassandra Complex until now ?

I even know the mythological background

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Hattrickher0@reddit

Could also be a fatigue thing. Everything is going to absolute shit and nobody in a position to make a difference gives the barest hint of a fuck. Going to work is one of the few distractions that adequately take my mind off what the world is becoming. I don't really have any desire to commiserate with like minded people over something we don't have the power to correct at the scale the problem requires.

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Supratones@reddit

It's weirdly refreshing when discussing current events with others to hear someone say, "God, we're so fucked."

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Lea32R@reddit

Disconnection. Why are Americans allergic to inflections.

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Captain_Pink_Pants@reddit

Never underestimate people's commitment to not changing.

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Megadum@reddit

So much. I don’t understand if I’m crazy or they are.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

literally? i keep getting told im thinking too much or i should stop reading the news

i cant cope with this insanity

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FluffyMan9000@reddit

You aren't insane, suggesting people to close their eyes and ears isn't a real solution to whatever is happening. It's one of the ways they remain in this dormant state of sleep where they never confront reality. It's nothing more than an organism trying to preserve its state of comfortable equilibrium. It isn't about you

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

People who tell the truth are silenced or killed, ostracized from society for attempting to wake the sleepwalkers. This reality punishes those who speak the truth and try to help others yet we must try it anyway. We all die at some point and hopefully we were brave enough to tell the truth and help others no matter the damage it caused our vessels. We have a mission here on earth and I don't want to waste my opportunity, do you?

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WolfInLambskinJacket@reddit

I feel like this, but I don't ask myself if others are doing a facade. They aren't. People don't care about the fire until it burns their house, and they will tease and insult you for pointing at it and warning them it's coming. Our society is sick.

I have friends who are either living in war zones, or have family there, and I can clearly see how much they feel disconnected from the rest of humanity. It is horrible.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

i feel the same way you do

how do you cope with it?

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

Learning about Gnosticism. Thinking about our ancestors and what they might have endured. Realizing thru all the evil and cataclysms life still exists on earth. We may not make it but some will. All we can do is optimize our time on earth and figure out what is our purpose for being here right now. We are born alone and die alone in agony there's no changing that.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

what made you decide to believe in gnosticism?

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

Makes the most sense to me out of all the religions. I add a blend of religions but gnosticism is the core of it. Jesus and John the Baptist preached gnostic beliefs and gnosticism predates them both by thousands of years or more. Movies like the matrix, inception, eXistenz, and the Truman show are gnostic based.

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nothankeww@reddit

weed

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fulloffantasies@reddit

You gotta break character every now and then and when some like, cashier or whatever does the 'how's it going?' you gotta say 'horrible, wtf are our leaders doing' you will get some hilarious responses and have genuine human moments. you'll also get met with awkward silence but so what.

my personal favorite so far was something like, "Yeah babygirl don't be fooled we all manic on the inside."

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

Thank you, this is good advice.

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twotimefind@reddit

On top of being aware. The last year has been more than stressful watching our government, which other nations look up to, push the fast forward button.

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

It's all by design man. Government is an illusion. Most things are planned hundreds-thousands of years in advance and these people are all secretly working together behind the curtain.

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Fangedfollower@reddit

Yes. I keep trying to put it in words, but there's too much. Society, nature, sanity, the cracks are all around.

When I was a kid, I was hopeful that we were evolving past the stupidity, the racism, the homophobia. We should be past having wars. We live in the information age, we can fact check live, translate a fucking calendar. There is enough food and water for everyone, we should be past starvation and famine. We should be past killing people as a dick swinging contest. We shouldn't be saying "fuck them kids", destroying everything and leaving future gens with the ruin.

It cracks something in me, seeing the hatred, the sheer ignorance, how proudly racism is spewwed. Makes me sick to my stomach. How can they not see it?

We're all just people. Just people.

God, it feels more and more like we are a cancer

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Pumpkin_Robber@reddit

Correct. We are a fallen species in a fallen reality controlled by the Demiurge. However Jesus and the source creator God exist outside of this material system of oppression. The goal is finding out how to return to source when we die instead of being reincarnated back to this prison planet.

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TheAngrySkipper@reddit

This is the reality of the Cassandra effect. But no, you aren’t alone. My advice, for better or worse is to take a collapsing asset and turn it into a hard asset.

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mossyskeleton@reddit

HYPERNORMALISATION

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Born_Barnacle7793@reddit

Try having to explain this to your child. Normally you’d be explaining how the government and economy works. A little lesson in civics. Instead when we listen to the news I have to explain how NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL AND I’M SO SORRY THAT THE WORLD IS NOT WORKING RIGHT. If I was childless I would be a lot less anxious about how wrong this all feels.

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Traditional-Emu-7376@reddit

Sometimes I feel this strongly and other times it's in the background. It never fully leaves esp since I studied climate change in grad school and work in a field where collapse is apparent. But it doesn't help me to ruminate on it. And tbh reading lots of this sub, it doesn't help a lot of people. So I do what's in my control. I learn skills, I work out, I read, I do things in my local community like talk to neighbors and volunteer. I do my job and I hold true to my principles.

I think a little bit of compartmentalization is necessary for survival. And that doesn't mean you don't care or that you're not being realistic. You're just not letting the dread kill you.

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Zealousideal-Rip-574@reddit

You and me both OP. I have that thought all the time. If I bother to try and talk about some of the insane $hit happening in the world with my coworkers they just shrug and say “nothing we can do about it” and go about their business. Sometimes, often, I feel like screaming “wake the fuck up everyone!”

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disco_octopus@reddit

A post I made and got amazing responses to a few years ago.https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/s/4iMZ9aUbKB

I’ve now been surrounded by community in my personal life for years who see things like I do. Ive still had to mask in certain situations the past few years because of work, or seeing extended family. But I actually just quit my software engineering job because going from news headlines, to company meetings was actually making me feel insane. It felt like the tv show Severance, except I couldn’t turn off my real world brain and pretend to care anymore. I “quite quit” for like 6months before finally quitting 2 weeks ago.

I think finding a sustainable way to survive financially, learning to live with less, building community, and finding the things that bring us joy is the most radical thing we can do right now. tbh “career goals” are a capitalist control tool.

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rayieza@reddit

There is no sane world any longer. We are literally all insane, all culpable.

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adamsoutofideas@reddit

We need a passive but visible signal that can be made with our hands, shaved into hair, stitched into clothing, and otherwise noticed (something simple like the Nike swoosh but upside down and backwards).

If we're all feeling this way, we're keeping up the bullshit for an imaginary order that no longer exists.

It's not just pointless to continue, it's important that we stop.

We need some measure of how many of us there are in any crowd without making a big deal about it

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IGnuGnat@reddit

Most fish stocks are artificial now in that they have local breeding programs that release fingerlings regularly, without these programs most fish stocks would collapse pretty quickly. In an TEOTWAWKI situation, much more quickly

For that reason, my suggestion is to look into aquaponics. Certain specific fish can convert feed to mass more efficiently than almost any farmed animal, and you can actually dig underground and put a tank or pond at least partially underground. Fish are also very quiet, and filtration (cleaning of the systems) can be largely automated. Aquaponics systems can be extremely productive

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-sussy-wussy-@reddit

You mean, tilapia? I've seen a guy attempt it on YouTube, I don't think it's doable for most of us.

Rabbits are also very quiet and convert the feed into mass extremely efficiently, and their droppings are a valuable fertilizer that you can use without composting. They're extremely cold-tolerant, but there is an American breed that is very heat-tolerant as well.

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IGnuGnat@reddit

You can use a local breed of catfish; they 're bulletproof

I don't think it's doable for most of us.

I've done it. It seems to me that if you can grow a goldfish and a tomatoe plant, you can do it. It's more work to set up initially but once it's set up, if it's enclosed there are often no problems with pests or weeds

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-sussy-wussy-@reddit

Which type did you get? We have them in the cooling ponds of the Chernobyl NPP and in Ptipyat river. They're hardy fish for sure.

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IGnuGnat@reddit

Brown bullheads and channel cats

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WlLDLlGHT@reddit

The president threatened to erase a civilization and now it’s just Wednesday no consequences everyone just pretending to be ok we are definitely not ok

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NyriasNeo@reddit

nah .. i just accept and make peace. Live as if the world is not going to end, until it does. No insanity needed.

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Crazy-Load-7553@reddit (OP)

This thinking is what got me out of bed for an interview today.

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dyggythecat@reddit

Same. Figure why stress till it collapses. Make sure to relax and enjoy this time.

Some of these people out here have no idea how comfortable we are.

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IsuzuTrooper@reddit

till? have you not looked around? it's started for sure

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vinegar@reddit

I’m sitting on my couch in my comfortable house with a full belly scrolling collapse. Terrible shit is always happening somewhere to some group of people and it always has been, but that background level of chaos, death, and misery isn’t Collapse. Collapse is when terrible shit happens to people who have always been protected from it by some form of privilege, and we’re gonna get to watch the complicated stages of that. Before the terrible things there will be a period of inconvenience and change and fear. I agree with you that we’re staring down the barrel of Collapse. But I don’t know if the background level of chaos/ misery/ death is rising and I feel like middle class first worlders are just starting the inconvenience stage.

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Skrappyross@reddit

Oh, the background level is rising for sure. But it's still far from impacting you. We've got time in the developed world. But others countries are already suffering more than before.

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Myth_of_Progress@reddit

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

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Lost_Birthday_3138@reddit

Exactly. Try to live like your "10 years from now self" wishes they could live. These are the last of "the good old days," do your best to make peace with it. A little prep isn't such a bad idea either.

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bipolarearthovershot@reddit

sometimes I think about having to shoot ducks at a pond near my house for food...and I don't have a gun :(

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bluehour1997@reddit

Yes. Dating rn and every time I try to engage in normal small talk, I feel like I'm dying. I feel like most people just don't worry about big things the way I do. I'm sure that's a good thing for them, but it drives me insane

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-sussy-wussy-@reddit

They literally don't, and I don't think it's a good thing at all. They may not worry in the moment, but when they actually make big decision, they always piss and moan about how "nobody warned me, poor little me".

Could be anything, like those proudly "outside of the politics" getting kicked in the face by the said politics. People buying houses in flood zones. Those conceiving kids during a crisis or war.

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bluehour1997@reddit

Yes, oh my God, people who still aren't thinking about climate change when it comes to relocation. I moved to Minnesota from Texas because it was so obvious the climate was already becoming unlivable. Obviously, I know nowhere is safe from climate change long term, but I literally unmatched with someone yesterday who said their long term plans were moving to Arizona and he "hadn't ruled out Texas because of the housing prices". Like, you have fun with that.

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HolymakinawJoe@reddit

No, not at all. I live in a normal country, not collapsing.

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Kaldorain@reddit

Where would that be? Globally, the situations are not looking good. How long till it comes to your door?

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HolymakinawJoe@reddit

It's nowhere near as bad globally as it is in 'Murica. You folks are collapsing economically, politically, socially, and soon......literally.

The rest of the world will feel a pinch economically, but will carry on just fine. We're all forging NEW friendships and making NEW deals with each other, while 'Murica is isolated and alone now.

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OldTimberWolf@reddit

Definitely. I think all the time, during the course of my workday, that very little of it matters as the house of cards is falling. I try to use it as a “freeing” viewpoint, so while I have the grinding chronic stress of collapse-ism, the day to day stuff doesn’t really get to me.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

how do you stay motivated to work?

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-sussy-wussy-@reddit

By remembering that the alternative is homelessness and dying of cold. Not a single system that has ever existed has eliminated homelessness. It acts as a scarecrow to show the working class that they need to keep working, or else.

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Kaldorain@reddit

Eh, "bang and get it over with. And then I'm worry-free.."

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OldTimberWolf@reddit

Great question, fighting burnout from this - should’ve touched on that. 1) People. Make your motivation and commitment about the people around you rather than the work itself. 2) I’m an engineer, I still get some enjoyment out of research and solving problems in the here and now - it’s the future strategic bullshit, busywork and accounting stuff that suffers with me 3) exercise, everyday.

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resistance_yogurt@reddit

Good advice!

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Logridos@reddit

Well, the alternative is homelessness and starvation, soooooo...

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SwooshSwooshJedi@reddit

I'm in academia and so most of my social circle is, and were all very well informed which means almost everyone I know is deranged from anxiety and stress.

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ToiIetGhost@reddit

I feel lost and confused. I can’t really talk to anyone irl about my fears.

I used to think I’d survive collapse - lol - because I’m hypervigilant, resourceful, good at DIY, and mentally prepared. (I’ve wanted to live in the woods since I was 10, bad family situation).

Well, turns out I prob wouldn’t survive because those qualities don’t matter. I never actually taught myself how to fish or grow anything more than tomatoes. Kept procrastinating with my skills. Now it feels too late and I don’t know where to start. Should I print out as many survival guides and edible/medicinal plant books as possible because there might be a blackout? (Please don’t call me crazy for thinking that. I just wonder if we won’t have internet access at some point and then what.) Or should I teach myself how to fish? Or basic carpentry? All of this would be self taught because I don’t know anyone local who teaches these things. Should I just buy those pills, you know which ones I mean. Iykyk.

Anyway, definitely relate to the post. It’s unsettling that everyone’s going about their daily lives like nothing’s wrong.

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Commercial_Ad8072@reddit

So relatable

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MeowKat85@reddit

Yes, we’re all going mad.

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uatry@reddit

How do we meet more people like us? It would feel comforting knowing other people who are approaching things with a collapse-conscious mindset.

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-sussy-wussy-@reddit

Well, you're talking in a thread full of them. I don't think that looking offline would yield any results, bringing up such topics doesn't go over well with the oversocialized normies.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

seconding this question i live in singapore so everyone has a lot of privilege and opportunity to not care

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OatSoyLaMilk@reddit

I am one of three coworkers I know of who in the last month have just experienced potentially ruinous car problems that, if it weren't for the generosity of family and coworkers, would be totally fucked in terms of our careers. Granted I have a lot of coworkers, but that is quite a lot for one month of one year, and that's just that I know about. Yes it feels quite likely other people are just muffling the sound of their screams that they are going to be unable to maintain the facade of normalcy.

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adamwintle@reddit

Well ceasefire just announced, so I guess everything will be back to normality again soon?

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Sherris010@reddit

"fully loaded" b52s were on their way to Iran and trump before the ceasefire said "a whole civilization will die tonight" I wonder if we'll ever find out if there were nukes on the way to Iran today. Luckily it didn't happen and he punted it two weeks out. We'll see what happens if the straight remains closed or closes again.

I think we all came close to dying today.

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exmuslimnfree@reddit

Source plz

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Sherris010@reddit

Here is an article mentioning B52s coming back after the ceasefire. Hopefully they did indeed all contain conventional bombs but we'll probably never know

US bombers including giant B-52 land back in the UK with 70,000lb payloads still onboard after Trump’s 11th-hr ceasefire https://share.google/XelHIgNWnHSHvxSp9

Here is an article about trump saying "a whole civilization will die tonight"

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-says-a-whole-civilization-will-die-tonight-if-iran-does-not-make-deal-2026-04-07/

And there were reports of trump and co removing generals for the past few days. Makes me think they were refusing some idiot plan of his. Like turning Iran to glass.

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03263@reddit

I have a strong feeling that somebody refused to act. We never get the whole story.

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vinegar@reddit

Agreed. He said that, but he’s such a bullshitter that there’s no way to know what relationship any of those words had to reality. Everything he says is showmanship.

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Ok-Zookeepergame5245@reddit

Don’t get too comfortable, just after the ceasefire was announced, Iran and Israel continued bombing each other. Israel has also broken the previous ceasefire with Gaza and Lebanon. Ukraine and Israel have had several ceasefire talks that fell through and they are still at war to this day over 4 years later. Ceasefire and peace talks aren’t a permanent end to war and if you look up in detail to Iran’s 10 point deal, the US will never agree to it fully. I’m not saying don’t have any hope, but be realistic, unless the war is permanently ended, be very skeptical of any supposed peace talks.

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refusemouth@reddit

Comedian, are ye?

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MaximumSupermarket80@reddit

My first job had a “motivational” quote on the wall: “Do more than you’re paid to do, eventually you’ll be paid to do what you’re doing.” So…. Exploit myself now in hopes of fair compensation later? 🤔🤯

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Key_Friendship_9873@reddit

Society isn't going to collapse. It will just change like it always does and the population will be less most likely.

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christieanns@reddit

Oh yeah. I want to talk about climate collapse and stocking up on non perishables and growing my own food, and everyone else is all “MY EXCITING VACATIONS! MY NEW GAS POWERED CAR!”

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TK0buba@reddit

when i met people much more well-adjusted, mentally healthier, and more successful than me i used to look at them aspirationally, almost jealously. i would carefully study them trying to emulate them.

now when i meet someone who is doing fine or even great through all of this, i start to wonder what the fuck is wrong with them.

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resistance_yogurt@reddit

Wow, yes exactly. I hadn't named this shift in myself but I feel it also. Thanks for putting it into words and sharing, this is actually super helpful.

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Hungry_Student_@reddit

My boyfriend and I literally woke up today and both said "well, glad we didn't nuke Iran. But guess we still gotta go to work."

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Easy-Environment-784@reddit

I have felt this way since 2014.

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Early_Grace@reddit

Yes, and slowly that facade is slipping and becoming difficult to sustain. The observant mind will start noticing some cracks where peoples true feelings begin to seep through.

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vcof2005@reddit

I realized during Covid that a lot of people in the US where I am are very ignorant to the world around them. They either get news from social media or some “guru” if at all.

They have no idea we are on the brink of nuclear annihilation and it’s all bc we have a corrupted checks and balance system and people who vote based on party and “vibes” instead of overall need.

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C0USC0US@reddit

Yes 100%. We’re not alone.

At the grocery store yesterday, a woman felt like she cut me off with her cart and apologized. I go “we’re all just doing our best haha” and she finally made eye contact with me like “girl yes you don’t even know”

So this is my new favorite way to break the facade of normalcy.

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brickout@reddit

Absolutely. I've been trying to warn people for decades. I learned very quickly that I had to be super conservative and reserved to not put people off. And now that it's finally becoming more clear that collapse is happening NOW, I still have to go to my stupid job that underpays me, disrespects me, and takes my time and energy that I want to spend at home, preparing, and enjoying the last bits of "normal" life, and I can't.

And nearly everyone I interact with, even those that I'm close enough to really talk to, are either clueless or willingly delusional. Even the smart people in my department who deal with environmental science, etc., are mostly completely in the dark.

My family puts up with me but nobody is actually making real moves. I have like 2 people I can kind of talk about things, but they are also not making changes.

And I am made to feel like the crazy one.

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HoosegowFlask@reddit

"How are you?"

"...fine..."

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DiscoskillzMX@reddit

"I feel like I'm taking CRAZY pills!"

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miklayn@reddit

People on my route ask me how I'm doing. I stare at them briefly before asking, do you really want to know?

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Own-Medium5232@reddit

Depends where u live. Unless ure in mud east or africa ull be fine.

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nothankeww@reddit

yeah, except for when my family keeps their head in the sand and gaslight me so that’s why I come here to make sure that I am still insane putting on the façade and that other people are doing it

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No_Detail2408@reddit

I watched Trump's second inauguration from a psych ward, and I honestly can't tell if I'm going crazy or everyone else. Probably both.

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loseralchemy@reddit

Back in 2017 I had swallowed 2 tabs of acid by accident and went to a psychiatric institution for 35 hours after freaking out. I kept trying to convince the psychiatric ambulance go storm the Kremlin with me and take Putin to the facility instead, but they just saw this opportunity to do the funniest thing ever and passed it up. Bet they regret it now lol. How are you?

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No_Detail2408@reddit

Devoid of hope but I'm still here

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loseralchemy@reddit

💚

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rattus-domestica@reddit

This is why I hate going to work. Or leaving the house ever.

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Glittering-Tea-2221@reddit

100%

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03263@reddit

If you phrase it just a little different nobody will think you're insane and I think you'll find a lot of people agree

"I'm trying to get more in touch with the natural world, you know, the things that make us human. I'm learning to fish to get some real unprocessed food."

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No-Candidate6257@reddit

I live in the EU.

The EU is literally just a bunch of Nazis who openly support illegal wars of aggression and genocide (while sanctioning Russia for participating in a US-caused proxy war and China for "committing" an entirely made-up genocide that anyone can easily confirm is not happening by simply traveling there - without requiring a visa, mind you).

The GREEN (!) parties openly support war against Russia, promote import retrictions on Chinese solar panels, and don't care that the Americans blew up Nord Stream, causing the worst environmental catastrophe in EU history.

People here are openly screaming that banning fossil cars is oppression.

People call the genocidal, war criminal rogue states US and Israel "value partners" and decry the evil of "authoritarian China".

Literally all our politicians are openly corrupt and serving the US... but all our media (which is also controlled by the US) is talking about is conspiracy theories about Russia controlling our elections and China trying to destroy our freedom.

Every day, our capitalist politicians and media manufacture consent for more oil-based economic development, abolishment of the already lax environmental regulations (because "we aren't competitive enough"), more wars, more genocides... and they blame all our problems on immigrants, Muslims and communists.

So, yeah... it's bad. And it's constantly getting worse.

However, I think most people aren't doing a facade. They are genuinely that stupid and brainwashed.

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Ephemeral_Drunk@reddit

Probably been brought up before but at a societal level it's called hypernomalisation, or at least that's one term for it. Frustrating trying to have discussions with people who should know better and the cognitive dissonance kicks in.

I'm not a fan of being passive so have done what I can to position myself for the coming decades. Feel like I've done pretty well on that regard so, apart from trying to have discussions where I can and voting accordingly, I try to keep it out of mind at least moreso than in the past.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

What have you done to position yourself?

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Ephemeral_Drunk@reddit

Kiwi. Sold up and moved to small city in south of South Island. Mortgage almost gone. Sizable home and section in one of most climate resilient places I'm aware of. Setting up solar and home gardens. Stopped buying crap. Supporting local when I can. Being a good neighbour.

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jcheroske@reddit

The psycho, normie, schizo framework is so helpful here. It reduces confusion, connects dots, and just generally helps to lessen suffering.

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Positive_Garlic5128@reddit

can you explain more?

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Hokker3@reddit

Me too.

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boomaDooma@reddit

It is not a facade, they are "comfortably numb".

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krichuvisz@reddit

Pink Floyd?

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boomaDooma@reddit

Hello?
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me
Is there anyone home?

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Formal_World8054@reddit

My modus operandi since i am like 8 or 9 yo and first learned about how humankind treats the enviroment and itself. The Advantage: im kind of used to it and can find hapiness in little things sometimes

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computer_d@reddit

I mean, that's clearly a symptom of too much online exposure - or exposure to news etc specifically. The majority of the world aren't directly involved with what I assume the person is referencing, so there's no reason why we can't distance ourselves from it, especially as we can't change it.

If the world is insane, make efforts to introduce sanity in your personal life. Or for others, seeing as we appear aware that other people are thinking this too.

It seems to me there's a clear solution, or an attempt at a solution.

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JasonBourne1965@reddit

Totally. Thanks.

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LugubriousLament@reddit

I need to discuss with my bank that I don’t see much of a future, and that I’d like to be less aggressive with certain retirement investments in order to pay down my HELOC sooner. I’ve heard of banks practically shaming people for not sticking to a 25-year mortgage, with diversified investing.

The potential for future investing is still present, however, freeing myself of the burdens of debt would offer me far more peace of mind for an erratic and unpredictable climate.

I have no kids, thankfully, while my peers and colleagues have young families or children on the way. I feel so bad for that generation being forced to inherit a shit-hole, with no clear option to escape.

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mumwifealcoholic@reddit

100%

Everyday.

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