Iran's Foreign Minister's statement on ceasefire
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Posted by Dangerous_Run4401@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 323 comments
thisinfinitebath@reddit
Watch Israel breaks this deal.
dalton10e@reddit
They are making this deal because Israel is about out of defensive missiles. As soon as they rearm they will pivot to securing their ~~sudetenland~~ Lebanon
Life-Park8010@reddit
I don't think Israel has the right to be a country anymore
4g-identity@reddit
Meh, can't restock interceptors in two weeks. They need something longer lasting or Iran can keep Israel's population in bunkers indefinitely.
political-bureau@reddit
Amphibious troops carriers arrive in the region in a few days. US will use that time to set it up.
4g-identity@reddit
Trump can't even stomach the rise in oil prices ... but you think he'll stomach a war on the ground? PoWs? Come on.
political-bureau@reddit
Yes because he'll capitulate as Israel forces his hand.
dalton10e@reddit
Netanyahu out here looking for a final solution to his arab problem.
dasroach0@reddit
What do you mean trump just negotiates peace in our time. /S
Thereelgarygary@reddit
Oh wow, its me from the future good call!
Kakariko_crackhouse@reddit
They do every single time
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
It worked perfectly fine last year
stonkon4gme@reddit
And in 9/11
Dangerous_Run4401@reddit (OP)
Nah، first see them brag about being bombed and acuse Iran of breaking the ceasefire
Heavy-Classic9184@reddit
they're currently exchanging missiles again
ComplaintOk807@reddit
Source?
TrekRider911@reddit
ViolettaQueso@reddit
Not surprised at all. Israel is who started this with Trump on board, Israel hasn’t signed anything or even been a part of the talks.
They obviously used US forces attacking Iran to attack Lebanon breaking Trump’s bogus peace deal with Israel/gaza/hezbollah
Standby_fire@reddit
They have been using Us forces in proxy since the return of modern Israel. While funded by their brethren here in the states taken from the tax coffers of the is people who don’t have national heath care like they do. Sad. For my species that has to make war for greed and corporate profit. (“War is a Racket” General Smedley Butler.) This is my old man’s perspective.
Capt. USMC 81/90
ViolettaQueso@reddit
My dad was Air Force Captain and I think our dad’s would have gotten along well.
These are the people we need in leadership, not bone spur draft dodging day traders…
Buttons840@reddit
Part of Iran's 10-point plan that the US seemed somewhat open to involves Iran charging a toll for passage through the strait, thus making Iran more powerful, and also demands that Israel withdraw from Lebanon and ends attacks against Iran's allies in the region (usually considered to be terrorist organizations).
This doesn't seem like something Israel is going to want.
Trump wants out. I don't think Israel wants to let him out.
LingonberryLunch@reddit
It'll end up being the JCPOA, but sweetened a bit for Iran. You know, the agreement that Trump and his dumbass cabinet tore to shreds.
just_a_knowbody@reddit
Trump needs to let Iran reset so that he can bomb them again “to end their nuke program once and for all” when he needs another distraction.
bekindrefindyaself@reddit
Bro I don't want to hear a motherfucking word from anyone American in our country about Iran and it having terrorist allies.. the president of Trump just had the butcher of Damascus in our nations white House.. we supported Israel in genocide.. our government is the terrorists
EmbarrassedCockRing@reddit
Israel is such a shit country. They should be left to deal with the consequences of their own actions.
Yo-Yo-Ha@reddit
The same thing we ate going thru here in the states- leader in criminal peril and so let's bomb someone. BS MAN.
Dadittude182@reddit
Well, one of the points of Iran's proposal is for the US to leave the region. That means no bases in the Middle East. Israel will be on its own.
LankyGuitar6528@reddit
*USA
Big-Act8445@reddit
Nah Isreal. They own usa
LankyGuitar6528@reddit
I guess they can both be shit countries.
WhoPutATreeThere@reddit
Iran is reportedly shooting ballistics at Israel and other gulf countries as well.. this is why we can’t have nice things..
wackadoodle4201@reddit
Fucking bastards
GiganticBlumpkin@reddit
Why lie idiot
SecretlyARaven@reddit
Same question as the others
Heavy-Classic9184@reddit
half an hour ago, a series of alerts via tzofar and idf statement saying they're striking targets
SecretlyARaven@reddit
Oh for fucks sake. Starting to worry that the “ceasefire” was just someone refusing to drop the bomb and turned the plane around
Heavy-Classic9184@reddit
honestly the best case scenario. the only people with the power to stop this madness are the ones holding the weapons
Malcolm_Morin@reddit
And they'll be replaced with someone who won't turn around.
SecretlyARaven@reddit
Lotta pilots out there, but for the sake of humanity I hope you’re right
CaffeineByki@reddit
https://apple.news/AChc6arDtQfib3nyO4KwFOA
This says that some gulf countries were reporting missiles after the conditional cease-fire announcement
Welllllllrip187@reddit
Shit, you sure?
Clear-Search1129@reddit
False flag
Dry-Statistician3145@reddit
They will break it like they did already a lot the past ....20 yeard
abdallha-smith@reddit
Israel will not stop
funnydumplings@reddit
Probably already have more false flags planned/in motion
Welllllllrip187@reddit
False flag themselves bet
westernsociety@reddit
!remind me 20 minutes ago
-LexVult-@reddit
At this point it is tradition with them
ion-deez-nuts@reddit
Art of the deal
Deep_Charge_7749@reddit
They did. They bombed an island that Iran owns.
Strange-Individual-6@reddit
Within fifteen minutes, they did
en_kon@reddit
My theory, they'll position more troops first that way they can play it off as a negotiation tactic before actually invading. We'll know for sure if we see more deployments to the ME.
4ctionHank@reddit
Aren’t they busy trying to finish off Lebanon
Living-Excuse1370@reddit
According to Al-Jazeera they haven't stopped.theyre still bombing Lebanon, and Netanhayu complained about the ceasefire.
Old_Man_Game@reddit
They want to carry on that's on them. No aid.
davisthagreat83@reddit
Isreal had nothing to do with this deal. Nothing
floridajetsfan@reddit
Yep.
miotchmort@reddit
Seriously. Just wait. They’ll F it up for everyone.
Ok_Excitement725@reddit
100% expecting this
Obvious-Hunt19@reddit
What deal? This is status quo. Strait remains closed
lunahighwind@reddit
It's already broken down on both sides
KoolXL@reddit
Source?
RhinoPillMan@reddit
They’re gonna false flag themselves, cry victim, and start bombing. I have no doubt in my mind.
svaldbardseedvault@reddit
One of the ten points in their negotiation framework is Israel ceasing operations in Lebanon.
Shwalz@reddit
Israel is currently being hammered by missiles from Iran
GiganticBlumpkin@reddit
Watch them break this deal
New_Stats@reddit
They haven't lifted a finger helping trump against Iran yet, why would they start now?
They're too busy trying to steal land from Lebanon
TrespasseR_@reddit
And then continues to say this is "Americas war"
No_Maybe4408@reddit
They wouldn't do that, would they!?
timohtea@reddit
Are they ALL just manipulating the market? They are wishy washy and less decisive then fucking highschool kids THOSE ARE LEADERS?!?!?
They are literally segueing on twitter wtf world do we live in.
Their little online pissing contests with peoples playing with peoples lives
bristlybits@reddit
yes. pump and dump.
hera-fawcett@reddit
biggest part of the 10point proposal was iran being able to toll. they reopen the hormuz and make out like bandits on tolling fees
TheBold@reddit
Ive seen Trump supporters celebrating this ceasefire / 10 point deal as some sort of diplomatic masterpiece that should be studied by diplomats for years to come.
(If the deal goes through) They’ve just made Iran stronger and the GCC and virtually everyone lost all trust in America but they think it’s a fabulous victory. Actual delusion.
The_Vee_@reddit
Trump supporters are a unique breed. It floors me how much crazy shit they will accept in the name of MAGA. I've watched them hate our friendly neighbor, Canada. I've watched their Christian asses accept Trump's crazy, cussing post on EASTER. There's nothing Trump could do at this point that they wouldn't support. Complete insanity. In their defense, they were hit with some majorly unethical and very effective political propaganda.
randylush@reddit
They would eat a plate of pig feces to own the libs
The_Vee_@reddit
And pray before the meal!
AllisViolet22@reddit
The top thread on /r/conservative is people saying "democrats got mad when trump threatened war crimes, and now they are laughing at him for chickening out of committing war crimes. what they do they want him to do? just shows no matter what he does they will hate him" lol like, did they ever consider that if he didn't threaten war crimes in the first place people wouldn't respond like that?
captainrustic@reddit
They have pretty much guaranteed that Iran will get the bomb now.
P2029@reddit
This peace deal only solidifies one thing: America is in rapid decline.
ARazorbacks@reddit
And those tolls will be paid with Chinese Yuan.
Trump, with MAGA cheering, is singlehandedly removing the United States’ largest economic levers.
GiganticBlumpkin@reddit
Maybe in your wildest fantasies
ARazorbacks@reddit
Uh…Iran released a chart showing who would be subject to tolls and who wouldn’t. It showed the tolls being paid in Yuan.
I didn’t make that shit up.
GiganticBlumpkin@reddit
LMFAO like Iran will be collecting tolls
ARazorbacks@reddit
I would love to be wrong as a toll increases prices on basically everything.
But if I‘m Iran this war doesn’t end unless it’s on my terms. Why? Because the only way the war ends on the US/Israel’s terms is with a full ground invasion and all the casualties that brings.
GiganticBlumpkin@reddit
Or America can just nuke Iran ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ARazorbacks@reddit
Sure, Jan.
ashdee2@reddit
Do I need to start stacking in the yuan. I was just thinking about it a couple days ago for some reason
02meepmeep@reddit
China has in the past manipulated the value of the Yuan to gain trade advantages. It’s not currently something I would trust as a store of value.
Kosmonautfpv@reddit
And the US doesn’t do this?! Have you seen the insane money manipulation that trump has done in the past months?
WobbleKing@reddit
Market manipulation not monetary manipulation.
Trump wants to manipulate the currency directly but cannot which is why he complains about the Federal Reserve so much
feral0101@reddit
In fairness, it hasn’t worked. Neither China nor the US want the Yuan to replace the dollar. America loses a lot of power from just fragmentation which is more than good for enough to significantly blunt American financial power. It doesn’t need to go the way of the Gilder to be a disaster for the US and a win for everyone else except us in Europe, Australia, and Canada
surferpro1234@reddit
It was better when you weren’t thinking.
GiganticBlumpkin@reddit
No LMFAO
NotTooShahby@reddit
It's really not though, the petro dollar helps the US sure, but the whole point of the agreement is kind of like giving the keys to a car to gulf countries to tie the states together economically and militarily. What makes the US a reserve currency has more to do with liquidity, institutions, etc.
InfiniCycle020@reddit
Yeah and it's exactly those institutions that are eroding away at high speed under Trump. Also liquidity in the market has gone down a lot. 17% of the federal budget goes towards interest payments. All in all, US is becoming unstable. The dollar as reserve currency will be a thing of the past within a few years from now.
ashdee2@reddit
Oh shit
PricedOut4Ever@reddit
Fuck that. War.
slowpoke2018@reddit
That and all sanctions being lifted
Which would mean they can begin uranium enrich again
And this is also why this is a non starter at the end of the day
ashdee2@reddit
So what exactly did US even get lol
EmptyBodybuilder7376@reddit
Egg on it's face.
The_ElectricGhost@reddit
You can guarantee it’s nothing that benefits you, me, or anyone that’s doesn’t own a multibillion dollar corporation.
Old_Needleworker_865@reddit
The same thing the U.S. has gotten every day of a Trump presidency: nothing good
JohnnyBoy11@reddit
I saw someone say they'll make like 300 billion a year but reconstruction is going to cost several times that. I would be somewhat surprised if they are able to recoup everything in the long run because I'm not entirely sure they'll regime will exist in 5 years
cyb3rg0d5@reddit
Yeah, they should, since US/Israel started this shit, they should definitely charge a toll to rebuild their country after all the attacks.
PS: Yes, the regime is bad, but that’s a whole other story that the people of Iran should sort it out.
BoulderLayne@reddit
Oh shit. Trump may really be the antichrist
techtornado@reddit
The Antichrist comes after Jesus calls the Church/body of believers to Heaven in the rapture
The AC will be a charismatic man loved by all and hated by none, he will rise and bring order to the world in the chaos because of the Christians disappearing
He will do miraculous things that are said in the name of God while also blaspheming His name
BoulderLayne@reddit
If he doesn't blow Iran off the globe and convinces the rest of society that he prevented nuclear fuckin Armageddon, yeah his bingo card kind of points to AC. Especially considering other things happening concurrently. If the Templar shit proves real, Jesus claims he is returning June 26, 2026.
techtornado@reddit
Nobody knows the hour in which Jesus shall return, not even the angels know, only God Himself...
Again, nobody is going to know who the AC is until after Jesus brings everyone home.
stonkon4gme@reddit
You two are absolutely off your rockers. Lay off the drugs, please (or at least get some therapy).
techtornado@reddit
Speak authoritatively then, how is the Bible wrong?
stonkon4gme@reddit
Well the bible for starters isn't even Jesus's teachings - if was largely written and "revised" hundreds of years after he died.
techtornado@reddit
Citations needed
Speak authoritatively when you make claims like this
It means links, sources, evidence must be included with anything said
stonkon4gme@reddit
Look it up yourself. There's plenty of citations/proof out there. I'm not your skivvy
corgidaddy0_0@reddit
This guy wants you to find evidence that the bible wasn't directly Jesus's teaching and that it has been revised many times?
Is he on crack? The very fact that there are so many versions of the bible shows that you're correct.
techtornado@reddit
You believe the stuff enough to proclaim it
Therefore you can prove it
BoulderLayne@reddit
Na, what im saying is Jesus himself supposedly said he is returning June 6 or 26th or some shit. Surely if Jesus is the only one who knows then Jesus himself should know. You know?
Not saying I believe it or not... was just playing with the thought
techtornado@reddit
It's impossible to know the hour, anyone that claims they do is a liar
To start, we have:
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
Jesus is God
Jesus does the will of the Father
Ok, the Trinity is going to get really complicated really fast past this point
I need to sleep, will update this
BoulderLayne@reddit
You better not be calling Jesus a liar
No_Routine2905@reddit
So basically Iran won. The US got nothing it didn't have before the bombing started, and Iran is getting sanctions lifted.
nycdiveshack@reddit
Iran has lost a lot of manufacturing infrastructure like their main aluminum factory was bombed today
No_Routine2905@reddit
If you count losses, the US lost a billion dollars worth of aircraft, plus the $1.7 billion per day to fund the whole thing. On balance, I'm not sure which came out with greater losses.
nycdiveshack@reddit
The budget is over a $1 trillion so I don’t think the U.S. military complex cares. More money for them and their supply chain isn’t affected whereas Iran’s is so it’ll be harder for Iran
dalton10e@reddit
China would not miss the opportunity to deplete the US arsenal by keeping Iran topped up on goods
coryscandy@reddit
China made Iran agree to the ceasefire...
dalton10e@reddit
That doesnt mean they wouldnt supply Iran if they had if Iran had chosen to continue the war. Both China and Iran have secured victories under the current terms that Iran proposed.
nycdiveshack@reddit
Yesh but that’s not the point, the point for Israel is 4 fold. Destroy the infrastructure and leadership of Iran so it takes them years if ever to rebuild. Slowly take over parts of Lebanon which they have done in the last 3 weeks. Start pushing the buffer zones in Syria which they grave done. Continue bombing Gaza and kidnap people in the West Bank while Israeli gangs push out more people in the West Bank for Israeli illegal settlements.
PleaseGreaseTheL@reddit
Iran's economy is projected to contract 10% or more and take years to recover.
So uh...
They lost more. By a LOT. The USA took some combat losses and might take a few years to rebuild some military equipment because some of it was hyper specialized stuff - stuff we can replace without any noticeable economic impact, it will just take actual time to manufacture. Iran had its heartland and aspects of its industrial capacity hollowed out.
But, again, the war had no purpose to begin with, still has no purpose, and the only outcome now is "maybe it ends but probably with Iran having more influence/say on the strait of hormuz than before"
stonkon4gme@reddit
Where is the laugh button? Oh, here it is 😂😂😂😂😂 You're joking, right??!?
PleaseGreaseTheL@reddit
If we spend a trillion dollars making more missiles, replacing a few aircraft, and a couple more phased radar arrays over the next several years, that's a drop in the bucket. 10% economic contraction by contrast would cause hundreds of thousands of deaths and translate to an economic loss of over $3 trillion in a single year (and would take down the global economy with it, like 2008 did - and the GFC only caused a 4% contraction from peak to trough.)
Iran is fucked up. USA is not, not from the war itself anyway - we're fucked up be cause we have incompetent government, and that was true before, and will be true after, the war is over.
stonkon4gme@reddit
Well, defo agreed with the latter. How the fuck did you let that imbecile in charge? He's making you look like absolute idiots.
GiganticBlumpkin@reddit
You attempting to speak confidently on this is fucking hilarious
PleaseGreaseTheL@reddit
You speaking as though you're not a random stranger to me who has no idea what I know or don't know, is fucking hilarious
lemmingswag@reddit
Source for the estimates on Iran’s recovery? Also have you considered the damage to the US economy, reputation, and the petrodollar?
PleaseGreaseTheL@reddit
The US economy is not that damaged by oil being high, it will slowly come back down. We might hit a recession but I think you might not understand what a double digit economic contraction means. The USA only experienced that in the Great Depression.
Reputation is not a quantitative value and not something you can just try and say "well this will cost XYZ more dollars".
Petrodollar legislation has been over for a while. That's not a phrase with a lot of meaning these days. Typically when people use it, they think that because saudis sell oil in US dollars, it somehow defines the entirety of the US economy, and now we're all gonna starve if it stops. Except it's not even an existing agreement anymore, and nobody ever has a real concrete understanding of what trades are taking place or what significance it might have or not have if it's done in a different currency. Over 20% of oil trading is done in a currency other than the dollar as of 2023. It doesn't mean much.
Also, for sources, just google it. It's not a hard science, the war isn't even over yet, but estimates are huge for how much this has cost/damaged Iran.
TheBold@reddit
The current ceasefire hinges on further negotiations regarding Iran’s 15 points which include reparations from America. This conflict is not done yet and it seems like Israel just went and bombed them anyway because of course they would so yeah…
JohnnyBoy11@reddit
Yes we're seeing people say the war cost us like 60 billion dollars but they're saying it'll cost Iran up to trillion dollars only for reconstruction. They purportedly lost 100 billion in just air defense. They lost 500 billion in lost oil revenue too. Not to mention all those killed in Iran like the leadership and the thousands of henchmen.
The losses are so lopsided, that it looney toons to think they're even in the same ballpark.
NotTooShahby@reddit
Are you sure those reports aren't losses for over the decade? I googled this and the AI answer estimated a decade of lost oil revenue as a trillion. Iran's economy wasn't that big to begin with
doubtfulpickle@reddit
Those Google ai summaries are wrong a shipping 50% of the time
NotTooShahby@reddit
Iran lost almost a trillion dollars in assets and years of development gone. This is a huge blow to Iran. Whether someone wins or not idk but it's a massive massive blow to Iran.
AmIReally_704@reddit
None of that means anything compared to the loss of lives (on both sides) and the absolute destruction of America's place in the world. It's going to take generations for our allies to trust us again, if they ever do.
No_Routine2905@reddit
Yep. Iran's government sucks too, but America has definitively lost in the court of public opinion.
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
Yeah but the US can pay and easily replace that, Iran not so much, they pretty much don't have an airforce anymore
TriXter69@reddit
What the fuck are you talking about? They are making major cuts across many sectors including Healthcare not to mention the thousands of people they've fired for no apparent reason. Why do you think 8 million people protested at no kings, the economy is doing poorly.
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
But we are talking military no?
TriXter69@reddit
Yeah they wanted $200 billion for this war plus increase military budget to $1.5 trillion. This would require massive cuts that would affect many Americans which is why it's so unpopular. So no, the US can't easily pay for it like you suggest without giving the middle finger to millions of Americans
Ancient_Weakness699@reddit
Nor a Navy
aipac_hemoroid@reddit
Fuck yeah. I will work double shift so my tax money can go to bomb children.
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
?
funnydumplings@reddit
Most likely sarcasm-meaning as usual US taxpayers have to be the bear of the brunt of all these costs just so the rich defense contractors(plus the govt people) gets richer- but that’s just my assumption
aipac_hemoroid@reddit
Was that a bot? Any human should have been able to understand that sarcasm.
funnydumplings@reddit
Not sure, i saw that person replying normal to other comment here, but nowadays it’s hard to tell tbh and i’m not tech savvy enough to know the difference.
Short-Personality398@reddit
Iran now continues to have authority over the strait and probably that includes the tolls which were never charged before
nycdiveshack@reddit
They many more restrictions on the process to fix their infrastructure and military whereas we don’t
mindtricks76@reddit
Part of the 10 points is U.S. pays reparations
nycdiveshack@reddit
Yes but money is easy to get, rebuilding and getting the right materials through a strained supply chain is 2 different things entirely
Fit_Head1700@reddit
Is there a true report that there is a toll, the i could see is some underground unverified claims that it easy bs
YeetedApple@reddit
Have you seen the US's procurement? Some of what they lost isn't even produced anymore, and the new stuff isn't exactly "easily" replaced... it's been a major issue how slow and expensive production is.
I'm not disagreeing about Iran's losses, but downplaying the US's is ludicrous.
The_Thane_Of_Cawdor@reddit
They just need drones
GiganticBlumpkin@reddit
I mean everything in America costs more than in Iran... fucking duh. Even if Iran and America lost the same amount of soldiers, aircraft, vehicles, and fired the same amount of missiles America would spend 10x-100x more.
Potential4752@reddit
That wasn’t a US objective though. I guess you could say both sides lost.
nycdiveshack@reddit
The U.S. has really lost anything it cares about (Trump administration I mean)
Potential4752@reddit
The admin lost the only thing it cares about: popularity. People don’t like high gas prices, losing wars, or paying reparations.
nycdiveshack@reddit
The admin is controlled by Thiel and Ellison and they want Trump to lose popularity by 2027.
I know no one wants to hear it but firing Bondi was the plan.
Scapegoat mechanism at its best, it happened with Musk/Bovino/Kristi/Bondi (I’m forgetting someone) and it’ll happen with Patel/Hegseth/Tulsi/Karoline and even Tom and Stephen soon enough.
Fully orchestrated by Vance’s groomer Peter Thiel. Palantir is the software supporting ICE allowing it to find people, Palantir uses data from the IRS/SSA/dept of education and the treasury to find people who pay taxes using the ITIN filing system and verify it with data from the treasury and dept of education systems. The biggest defense contractor for the CIA/NSA, the guy behind the NSA director and deputy being fired. The guy whose products are being used by most of Europe. The UK’s NHS now runs on it. Thiel has gone on and on for years how Trump fills that role perfectly. Thiel groomed Vance since law school, literally not figuratively walked Vance into Mar-a-lago to so Vance could be VP. I could go on but well fuck it…
Thiel is a literal German Nazi, born in divided Germany, grew and went to school for a time in Swakopmund a former West South African town that when he was there idolized and loved Hitler/Nazism. His dad had to keep moving him between school because of “issues”. His dad while there worked in violation of international law on a uranium mine while helped him move the whole family to the U.S. like so many post-war Germans who still “favored” Nazism/Hitler.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PrepperIntel/comments/1ntgc7y/comment/ngtmq4a/
Whoever is removed will make people think the problem is gone. It’s what happened to Elon.
His Tesla stock is reaching an all time high. He got new government contracts for Starlink and Starshield under the umbrella of SpaceX for over $80 billion in the last few months. Nearing 10,000 low orbit satellites. His partnership with TMobile is expanding as he gets closer to owning his own U.S. based ISP. He got to use DOGE (Peter Thiel work) to shutdown the agencies and their inspector generals investigating his businesses like USDA/NOAA and a few banking agencies along with shutting down USAID completely (an estimated 300,000+ people have died so because it was stopped) which removed and stopped so many investigations. He forced over 100,000 federal employees into retirement.
Ladies and gentlemen his was the first test case for Howard Lutnick and Peter Thiel’s scapegoat mechanism with many more to come.
Strakiz@reddit
Thanks for posting this and especially for this
You are right. Everything happening points into this direction. I wish people would stop hoping that once Trump is gone or was gone that everything will be miracolously ok again. But that's not how coups and overthrowing entire nations work. Trump is just the courtjester on the stage who distracts people with his "antics". Unfortunately very few people are prepared to look what's going on behind the curtains. And even the Epstein files might just be a useful distraction from the horror show that is currently set in motion. Worldwide.
nycdiveshack@reddit
Also right before the midterms is when all the big beautiful bill cuts are going to start to happen. They are doing a great job of centralizing power in the executive branch because pre-midterms they will make the Dems the scapegoat for all the cuts. The cuts to Medicaid and Medicare are happening right before the midterms and it’s all going to be blamed on the Dems because mostly blue states who expanded will have to cut their budgets. The gop has always been better at communicating with the media than the Dems.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Askpolitics/s/PCPaMaTzOu
The implementation of the big beautiful bill explained…
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-implementation-timeline-of-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-act/
ChaZZZZahC@reddit
Our great leader Xi about to come build that shit right back up, dont you worry about that.
nycdiveshack@reddit
No way they rebuild that fast. It’ll take a couple of years by which point another quick battle where it’ll be used as a distraction so Israel can take up more of Lebanon. Israel has taken over a fifth of Lebanon and stated they are staying there all the while passing their Palestinian execution law
ChaZZZZahC@reddit
Hezbollah is giving them hell
nycdiveshack@reddit
Not enough to make it a sustainable effort. Israel has more money and resources from the US especially since they are running Palantir targeting software on oracle data center under Jerusalem that oracle built for Israel
Se7enCostanza10@reddit
Irans foreign minister didn’t rape kids so kinda win by default there
stonkon4gme@reddit
You forgot the "murder" bit, that also happened.
Leafybug13@reddit
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
Iran lost a ton of it's senior leadership and general military infrastructure what
scrotumscab@reddit
The US lost about 15 years worth of missiles
WobbleKing@reddit
Sadly I think the number of missiles you’re talking about is going to be a rounding error in 2 years
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
Source? Also if you read the recent Military investment reports, they are pretty much quadrupeling the production of SM-3s, patriots, Talons (THAAD), JASMMs, Tomahawks etc
Accomplished_Rip_362@reddit
All of those items are super expensive. We should double down on Ukraine style drone interceptors, laser and em anti drone devices.
The_Thane_Of_Cawdor@reddit
Nice , in 6-10 years
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
Depends on the what, for SM-3s yeah, for Talons the framework is already there
Competitive-Image799@reddit
Why would you ask for a source and then repeat information supporting their claim lmao
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
Yes the US doesn't produce enough of this munitions to keep up with the current use, but the "15 years" And "850 tomahawks" Are hopeful guesses by analyst not official figures
aipac_hemoroid@reddit
Yeah, I think US will comeback after 6 months again. Although that close to midterms would be disastrous for Trump to engage again.
scrotumscab@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/economy/s/0ceHXnofBW
Faribo_Greg@reddit
Use em or they are obsolete.its a drone world now.
ONIROTCIV@reddit
Weapons have to be used to justify the spending my friend
This war was just to empty the stockpiles for the new stuff
Iran has been carpet bombed for over a month straight idk if they'd say they'd won
scrotumscab@reddit
It's true, but I wasmore than happy letting Ukraine test our old stockpile for us.
Iran definitely isn't coming out of this ahead, but we sure as hell ain't either. They win by virtue of us losing.
IncomingAxofKindness@reddit
And China and Russia will be stocking Iran up with more arms than can fit under every mountain in Iran now.
Iran doesn't even need to pursue nukes. They realize now they can control the world through 100km water passage and it's not even hard.
balloflearning@reddit
Iran’s 10 point plan lifts sanctions AND the US pays for damage done to Iran.
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
That's not the current one
balloflearning@reddit
It is 100% part of the current one, as reported by NBC. This is the plan unless the US can negotiate better terms before the ceasefire ends.
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
Sanctions yeah, reparations paid by the US no
balloflearning@reddit
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-trump-deadline-hormuz-infrastructure-ceasefire-rcna267039#:~:text=“Based%20on%20conversations%20with%20Prime,to%20be%20finalized%20and%20consummated.
8:04pm update. Includes both lifting of sanctions and compensation for damages.
aipac_hemoroid@reddit
The statement Iran put out says that is so
YeetedApple@reddit
Where are you seeing the 10 point list, everywhere I am seeing it has sanctions lifted plus iran implementing a toll on the strait
Short-Personality398@reddit
And Iran is getting control over the strait just like they have it today but didn’t have it 6 weeks ago.
the_fabled_bard@reddit
Iran doesn't control the strait. They share it with Oman.
They can't control it alone without being considered terrorists or declaring war on Oman.
Short-Personality398@reddit
Edit: They maintain the same control they have today. They conceded nothing as far as I can tell
Adventurous-State940@reddit
They conceded to share the 2 million with oman. Thats new. It used to be free.
Frido1976@reddit
Yes so now we have to spread the extra $2M out on our gas which is expensive already now. Thanks for the shit, Orange Mussolini!!
Alternative_Draw5945@reddit
Is it $2m a day?
overkill@reddit
It would be $2m per ship.
Sad-Specialist-6628@reddit
Yep not a lot of people talking about that part, cost of energy locked in.
dufutur@reddit
Oman would invest in Trump associated fund I guess.
invisiblelemur88@reddit
let's just be okay with this deescalating for a moment please.
lostinspacs@reddit
Would you bet your savings that this war ends on all of Iran’s terms and that no other shoe drops in the next 2 weeks?
The governments of the US, Iran, and Israel are all snakes. I’m not optimistic
GroundbreakingPea765@reddit
It’s not necessarily true. The Iranian military has seriously been degraded, and the number of ballistic muscles and drones they have has been reduced. And hopefully the nuclear material is inaccessible to them.
GrillinFool@reddit
And any extra money Iran makes selling oil for the next few years goes to rebuilding not funding terror proxies. That’s a win for the world. Here come the downvotes but it’s the truth.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
There is no scenario where things will ever be better for the US, than they were on February 27th.
Notyit@reddit
This is like Ukraine and Russia but on an even bigger scale
WalkerTR-17@reddit
Iran has had its senior leadership XP farmed, their nuclear plans pushed back at least a few years, been heavily destabilized, lost their navy, lost their Air Force, and pissed off everyone around them some of whom were previously at least mildly friendly towards Iran. Iran didnt win anything regardless of what their propaganda bots put out.
ceeb1o1@reddit
they gained control over the straight, all US sanctions released, the regime gained power, while the common folk suffered.
WalkerTR-17@reddit
They did not
-OooWWooO-@reddit
That is not what this says. Neither side has accepted any of the points of each other's plan. They are accepting that it will be the basis of negotiation.
This is essentially an agreement to negotiate not a final settlement.
The10KThings@reddit
It’s not over, lol
fuck-mohamaed@reddit
:)
fuck-mohamaed@reddit
:)
Northeast4life@reddit
Iran is firing missies at Israel as a type this.
Kakariko_crackhouse@reddit
Israel is not part of the ceasefire as far as I have heard. Just the US and Iran
grahamfiend2@reddit
White House says Israel agreed to it as well.
Kakariko_crackhouse@reddit
Iran said Israel didn’t. So this is gonna get messy again real quick. Israel always breaks cease fires anyways so it doesn’t mean much even if they did
Lazy_Resolve_9747@reddit
The last thing Israel wants is the war to stop. They’ve been trying to goad US presidents into fighting on their behalf in the region for decades now. They likely view this as their last great chance.
They’ll do a false flag if they have to.
stonkon4gme@reddit
They've already tried. The first few attempts have been scuppered and seen right through.
aipac_hemoroid@reddit
I don't think Israel can afford to break this time. They already run out of THAAD and Arrows. Now they are on last leg of Davids sling. 1 week, Iranian missile will reach 90% penetration.
Kakariko_crackhouse@reddit
They will just Samson Option if the US doesn’t continue attacking Iran
aipac_hemoroid@reddit
No they won't. Why would they?
Kakariko_crackhouse@reddit
Israel views Iran as an existential threat. They will not stop until Iran is no more or they are dead.
grahamfiend2@reddit
Source?
Hhhhhhhhhhhggg@reddit
Do your own research and come to those conclusions yourself. This shit annoys me.
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
They said it would take a bit for the news to reach the ranks of the IRGC
bungnard@reddit
So Iran's factories, power plants, oil and gas facilities, airports, and some bridges are destroyed. The countries economy has been in tatters for months and any chance of rebuilding quickly is a dream because of sanctions. The trading relationships with the gulf countries is probably severed and who knows if it will ever be repaired at this point. I suppose you can say the regime survived the war but I really don't think it's going to survive what's coming next.
EpatantePatente@reddit
Wow did Trump accept a 10 point agreement mentionning Iran can enrich uranium? He messed up the Obama Iran Deal for this in the end?
Ready_Jury6144@reddit
There will literally be zero uranium enrichment. That’s priority #1.
GrillinFool@reddit
He agreed to use the 10 point plan as a basis for negotiations. Nothing was agreed to.
UncleBuckReddit@reddit
Nuclear enrichment is on that list.
Back to square one, actually worse.
Now they control Hormuz, and hate us more than ever before.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
And Sanctions will be lifted. And reparations paid. And that regime ain’t going anywhere.
GrillinFool@reddit
None of this has been agreed upon. It’s a basis for negotiations as well as the US 15 point plan. Nothing has been signed.
How is this that hard?
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
You don’t get it. Iran has all the cards. The US doesn’t have any way to pressure Iran. We’ve already thrown everything we’re willing to throw at them and they endured it. They know Trump can’t go back to a closed strait. This is a loss. It’s a done deal.
GrillinFool@reddit
I highly doubt that. One of those concessions was to enrich uranium again. That just isn’t happening. Come on.
I agree they have taken a lot and have retained power, but we can keep going. If this thing ends now it will be the fastest military action like this ever. I don’t think there will be real regime change unless there are troops sent in so they are staying in power. But who will “they” be. We keep taking out leaders. Maybe we get down to someone who decides to take a deal.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
Then they’ll shut the straits again.
No we can’t. What does “keep going” mean? More bombs? Bomb what? We’re already to the point of threatening war crimes because we ran out of targets.
What makes you think playing whackamole is gonna work? You have absolutely no reasons to believe that. And they can last a lot longer than we’re willing to have those straits closed.
You’re huffing copium.
GrillinFool@reddit
And when their 10 point plan is not signed off by the US, you will come in here and say “yeah, I underestimated Trump. You were right on this one.”
Because if Iran has this much power then we have to sign that 10 point plan as is. No negotiations. We just have to eat it. That’s your argument here. The likelihood of that is 0%
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
You’re just ignoring everything I’m saying because “Trump is so smart and capable.”
GrillinFool@reddit
You just spent multiple posts explaining how the Iranians have all the cards but now you’re saying they don’t? Which is it? You just negated your own argument when you couldn’t agree to my terms. So I guess I’ll notch that in the win column. Thanks.
For the record, Trump may be a master negotiator in a board room, but negotiating with religious fanatics doesn’t work the way he thinks it does and thus we keep bombing and getting no where. Maybe they keep killing the people who won’t negotiate until we find one that will, but even then, the Shiites will murder that guy eventually and whomever takes over will back out of whatever deal is signed.
All that being said, we can open the strait. It would be much easier if we had some help from some of the countries that need that oil more than we do.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
I said no such thing. You can’t read.
He is absolutely NOT. And you reveal your total lack of credibility here. Big mistake.
What in the last couple months makes you think any of that is going to happen? Iran has spent this entire war showing you how wrong you are. When are you gonna wake up?
Then why didn’t we?
By doing WHAT? Be specific.
Straight from Fox News. WOW. This is totally ignorant to basic economics.
WE are the ones that started all this, so we can’t expect them to come in and fix our mess that they had nothing to do with.
It doesn’t matter who specifically uses that oil. The problem is when 20% of the oil instantly disappears from the market all oil gets more expensive. This the most basic supply and demand concept…
GrillinFool@reddit
You said they had all the cards. That the US has no leg to stand on in negotiations. I said if that’s the case the US will agree to all 10 points on the Iran cease fire plan. Then I said if that’s not the case then and not all 10 points are agreed to by the US then you have to give Trump some credit. Then what did you do? You attacked Trump. You no longer defended your “the Iranians have won and have all the cards” BS and went to “he’s shooting holes in the boat” stuff.
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say the US is utterly defeated and has no leverage and then say “even if the Iranians get a third of what is in their 10 point plan we are worse off.” If they only get a third then we have leverage. Then we haven’t lost.
Which is it?
Please try to keep the goal posts in one place. You being backed in a corner here will make you want to move them and resort to shifting the argument because this one is hard to win with you contradicting yourself.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
THAT is not there. That is your own unwarranted assertion. You cannot project your assertion onto my logic an then use that to say I’m conceding something. That’s asinine.
No. Why are you lying? It’s right there in black and white for you to read. I said even if they only get 1/3 of those demands, we’ll still be in a much worse position than we were on Feb 27th. And a HELL of a worse position than we were under the JCPOA.
That demonstrates how Iran has all the cards. They don’t even need to get half of what they’re asking and we still get fucked. And there’s nothing we can do about it because they’ve already shown they can resist all the bombing we can throw at them.
That’s what having all the cards looks like.
That is totally illogical. There is absolutely nothing saying “it is automatically a win if Iran doesn’t get absolutely everything they want.” That is NOT the measure of success. Success is determined by who gets more of what they wanted. Even if Iran only gets 1/3 is their demands:
they will still control the strait
they will still get lifted sanctions
the petro-dollar still gets axed
US soft power is gone forever
And what do we get?
Even if through some miracle, they agree to not have a permanent toll on the straits, we are still in a much worse position given everything Iran will have gotten. And why did we get? A strait that is open like it was on Feb 27th, except with all of those concessions I listed.
THAT is what having all the cards looks like. It does not matter at all if we can shave off a couple of the demands on their list.
Translation: “I’m too afraid to let my points speak for themselves, so I’m going to desperately try to paint you as irrational.”
GrillinFool@reddit
I said that the 10 points were not agreed upon and just a basis for negotiations and you adamantly countered that those 10 points were might as well be etched in stone. The rest of this performance is just back pedaling.
Those are your words from yesterday. They seem quite contradictory to what you are saying now.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
I said no such thing. And your screen grab doesn’t even show that. Are you drunk?
How does that contradict anything I just said? It doesn’t.
You just don’t have a response. That’s why youre ignoring all the assertions I just laid out above, so you can attempt to deflect and make this all about some mythical “contradiction.”
You’re totally unable to meet the argument on the substance.
GrillinFool@reddit
Can you read?
“Iran has all the cards”
“This is a loss”
“It’s a done deal,” in response to me saying the 10 points were just a basis of negotiation.
Is the sky plaid in your world?
We are done here. You have utterly wasted my time. When you get back on your meds maybe we can have an honest discussion. But that’s just not happening. You are flat out lying and or completely schizophrenic. Either way I don’t have time for that.
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
No it's not
Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire
End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon
Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran
End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies
In return, Iran would open the Strait of Hormuz
Iran would impose a Hormuz fee of $2 million per ship
Iran would split these fees with Oman
Iran to provide rules for safe passage through Hormuz
Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations
aipac_hemoroid@reddit
The fuck? Lol! If this is actually the deal USA lost harder than any war
epsteinwasmurdered2@reddit
Do you not know how negotiations work? They can ask for 100 camels that shit solid gold, it doesn’t mean they’ll get it.
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
Nope it's just the basic basis, the Iranian FM also said that it would be based on the 15 points made by the US
UncleBuckReddit@reddit
Hahaha https://wtop.com/world/2026/04/iran-includes-acceptance-of-enrichment-in-farsi-version-of-its-ceasefire-plan-something-missing-from-english-versions/
UncleBuckReddit@reddit
Sanctions are based on enrichment and nuclear development....
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
there's is no mention of sanctions in the current 10 point
aipac_hemoroid@reddit
Point 4 is sanctions..
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
Yes I'm dumb
aipac_hemoroid@reddit
Are you a bot? Beep bop bad bot
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
No I'm just mildy illiterate and missed it cause I'm just reading superfast
FelixMumuHex@reddit
Literally read your own post
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
Yeah I'm stupid, indeed still it's up to negotiation
Lazy_Resolve_9747@reddit
It’s point number 4
ConfidentPilot1729@reddit
They guy you are responding to seems to be trying to down play how big of a loss this is for this admin. Up top he said sanctions were not even a thing in there proposal.
LSUguyHTX@reddit
And are united with a common enemy again.
SoupOfThe90z@reddit
Art of the deal, baby!!!
IncomingAxofKindness@reddit
It's a very abstract style of finger painting.
RebelliousInNature@reddit
Still. Trump needs to go. He poured kerosene on the bonfire for, well, no sensible strategic reason.
water-tr4sh@reddit
No reason? He and his family made a shitload of money off all of this
Yo-Yo-Ha@reddit
Is this just between the US and Iran? Because Israel never stopped bombing I don't believe.
Girl_gamer__@reddit
So the US has lost
ConferenceSudden1519@reddit
We temporarily need a break lol
Minimum-Ad-8056@reddit
"Powerful Iranian forces" lmao
Effective_Theme_5739@reddit
its like "Lovely Professional University" (yes, that is a thing)
mvb827@reddit
The Ten Points:
So Iran made out like kings on this one. And all it took was countless lives throughout the region, including Americans. Then again, Israel broke the last ceasefire so… maybe it won’t hold.
sedated_badger@reddit
lol you guys, that statement Pakistan recently gave announcing the ceasefire was scripted by the US, nobody’s negotiating in good faith here 😭
Go look at the Pakistani statement and look at the post history to before its last edit.
Kinky_No_Bit@reddit
Which, I'm sure they are still collecting that fee too... Also 2 weeks gives you time to rebuild buildings, get organized, get more drones together.
Agreeable_Still_5028@reddit
The 2 week ceasefire is hypothetically the perfect window for the US to send tens of thousands of troops to secure Iran's major oil and gas fields, nearly all coastal. There is zero chance the US and Israel will end this conflict without cutting Iran off from its revenue sources and without taking control of the Strait of Hormuz.
The only way the US can gain control of the strait is by finishing off Iran's large underground missile and drone bases; most of these bases have only had their entrances blocked and Iran has been rushing in bulldozers to quickly reopen them. The most advanced bunker busters can't reach many of these facilities, but a few dozen tactical nuclear strikes can do the job. The main issue is the unpredictable fallout, but no country would realistically retaliate. The rules of war are not being violated, they are simply being rewritten.
Jumpthefenceagain@reddit
Be assured that everyone knew this would happen and it will be dealt with. Basically it’s an Israeli hissy fit.
jasonc122@reddit
Adventurous_Gap_5946@reddit
There are very high flying planes/jets that seem to be circling DC right now at 10:30pm EST.
canadianmountie@reddit
I wouldn’t say the Iran won. Over 13,000 military targets were destroyed.
Ancient_Weakness699@reddit
And their entire air force and entire navy is gone.
Accomplished_Rip_362@reddit
Most of their stuff was ineffective old junk anyway.
GrillinFool@reddit
But when all you had was old junk, at least you have something. Now, not so much.
manti26@reddit
Long live Iran and its glorious People, long live the hardworking American people, death to Israel!
PureLock33@reddit
That's a big ass IF.
BioExtract@reddit
Get fucked, colonial US.
LankyGuitar6528@reddit
TACO Tuesday.
youdog99@reddit
Right on schedule!!
tty4ALL@reddit
Tbh first thing they should do is to contain jews. Coz they are going to fuck this shit up, again.
miotchmort@reddit
Seriously. It’s not over until Israel says it’s over. I’d like to say more but I don’t want my account to get banned.
miotchmort@reddit
I’d love to take a master class on negotiation…. From Iran. Trump is a compete fool and for being such a great negotiator, really sucked this negotiation. What a moron.
MightyMTB@reddit
Calling it now, Israel is about to escalate this to point even Trump was uncomfortable with & this is his way of trying to distance himself from it.
Left_Preference2646@reddit
He's telling civilians to go to power plants and such so if we bomb em there it looks worse cause civilians died.. great leader, mass genocide every few months as well, horrid place. And no it doesn't mean I like our leader lol
sir_duckingtale@reddit
May the Peace last long.
Chidofu88@reddit
“Never let a good crisis go to waste” is cliche for a reason. Cui Bono?
Glass-Customer2361@reddit
We’re safe until the news starts going back to Epstein.
Loud-Contribution861@reddit
POT-US
Loud-Contribution861@reddit
Pot is 9 points 1 point for U 1 point for S What you chose is 15
IGC-Omega@reddit
Checks notes, looks at things in the 10-point proposal.
Allowing Iran to enrich uranium, a full U.S. withdrawal from the Middle East, full Iranian control of the strait, compensation for rebuilding what was destroyed, and a full lifting of sanctions going all the way back to Bush.
There's no way.
JuniperJupiter4@reddit
That's disinformation.
IGC-Omega@reddit
Disinformation? It's being reported by all major news outlets, including the times of Israel just a few moments ago. There's a dozen more news outlets reporting on this.
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
That's not the current 10 points
GalacticNecterine@reddit
Does anyone seriously believe the US will agree to these terms?
Mother-Remove4986@reddit
That account is disinfo engagement farming ran from Pakistan
azry1997@reddit
That is actually the 10 conditions from Iran to US. Trump just agree to "negotiate". He doesn't agree to the actual terms
Dangerous_Run4401@reddit (OP)
That's a fake account
Outrageous_Ad7480@reddit
I lost shit load of puts, but am happy it stopped . Hope it stays this way.
NoStruggle9309@reddit
Trump was on the ropes. He was bluffing. Iran should have called his bluff.
RadicalPharmacist@reddit
Is that real?
Gold-Cress-9407@reddit
Hacked
ShedOfWinterBerries@reddit
A person could look at this and assess this was as much about Iran energizing their people as it was about humiliating American senior officials (proposing boundary changing terms and already firing missiles at multiple nations since the announcement).
Groundbreaking-Ice12@reddit
I’m pretty sure they are missile alerts going on right now for Tel Aviv
Safe-Tennis-6121@reddit
Trump will say "we will circle back to this in two weeks"
itsadiseaster@reddit
Dear TACO. We want all and then some. Thank you.
thecrowing77@reddit
Feels fake.
I have no proof. It just feels fake.
RobertB16@reddit
I won't believe it until I see it's from an official Iranian account
Elon_is_a_Nazi@reddit
Much like how we illegally staged a terrorist attack and kidnspped Venezuelas president. Iran needs to detain and put trump on charges of terrorism and war crimes against Iran. Right now the worlds most dangerous terrorist is Donald Trump and his pedophile supporting cult of MAGA
DandyDapperness@reddit
I'm hearing that Iran is throwing missiles at a lot of ME countries. Source: Daily Iran News
Northeast4life@reddit
Agenda free tv you tube
Blackish1975@reddit
He’s the real boss
Certain_Race_6829@reddit
Long may this last.
wavestersalamander69@reddit
This is good news I guess for now.