What’s the reason behind this sudden friendship between Turkey & Spain?
Posted by Substratas@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 84 comments
Posted by Substratas@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 84 comments
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
They've not been shitting on us and were the only NATO member to actually speak in favor of us when we shot down that damn russian jet for violating nato airspace. Every other "friend" scorned us for it.
Several-Zombies6547@reddit
Turkish jets constantly violate Greek airspace. Would you praise their potential shootdown? Turkish hypocrisy is crazy.
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
Provoking conflict by loading massive amounts of military equipment right at the border isnt necessarily ally-behaviour either.
Plus, greece violated Turkeys airspace too, and you have the gall to be mad about us
Flokithedog@reddit
mate have you heard of the Aegean Army of Turkey?
Yeah, who is loading equipment at the border? Plus its our right to put weapons were we want, its OUR soil not yours hungry boiiii.
Id rather we didn't have to to be honest as its costly, but since your fascist government wants to invade, what choice do we have?
When did we violate Turkish airspace? While chasing YOUR planes away? We would rather not have fighter jets anywhere NEAR Turkish airspace, but you keep sending yours into ours and need to be chased away.
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
Please. What do you know about tye Turkish army?
There are a total of 4 military entities dedicated to protect the 4 critical borders of the country, the Aegean command is only one of them.
Ur pseudo-intellectualism just saw "agean" and "army" and assumed its enough for an argument lmao
Who talks like that jesus...
And yeah thats true, but usually you dont point weapons at allies, which is why any conflict starts with countries arming their targets borders before an attack.
Sure you could pass that up as inconsequential but remember that greece has ignored Turkeys inrecognition of their maritime borders. Usually you dont respond to a disagreement with hostility.
Oh now its our fascist government, so when your government does it all is fine and dandy but our has to be fascist. Remind me, which government first fell into cyprus and caused it to be so torn apart today? İt wasnt ours thats for sure.
İ'm sorry İ didnt know İ was talking to an illiterate person
Flokithedog@reddit
Your government is Islamo fascist.
It control the press, the industry, the economy, speech, and actively advocates for war.
Your Aegean army is pointed at who? Greece, an Ally as you said clown.
They have landing ships, for what purpose? To defend the land? give me a break.
You are low IQ and nationalist so no need to argue with you.
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
Such a cheap defense dude.
"Your country also instigates conflict"
"Well your government sucks"
Yeah İ know it sucks, doesnt make your argument any better tho
Plus who're you to tell me that my countrys government is bad? As if İ didnt already know that
İts a border-defense command. Not a greece-defense command. Considering that both greece and Turkey have overlalling martitime borders having that command is warranted. What isnt warranted however is storing lethal ammunition and explosives right at the border. At least our command is just people on mainland.
Like you arent lmao
Flokithedog@reddit
Man just stop, you are literally speaking none sense. As if a massive army across the islands doesn't warrant lethal force in defense. No one said our government here is good, its literally full of thieves. Yet still, we do not talk about taking parts of Turkey one night, or bombing Istanbul with missiles, nor do we fly our planes over your lands unprovoked. Good luck with your life, we both need it in our sht run countries
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
*nonsense. Lets respect the international language please
A: you're talking about a single command, which is part of the army but not te whole army, calm down
B: again, it was YOUR pepple that interfered in Turkeys territory, and somehow using the army to chase them off and prevent new intrusions is for some reason considered unreasona le by you.
How 'bout just keeping your fingers to yourself?
You're right, your citizens do that already, no need for your government to do that.
Remember what your people did on cyprus?
BeeUnfair4086@reddit
His fascist government? I seriously want to know how you perceive our current government then.
DumberFarmer@reddit
Go ahead and do so then? They aren't the same
Flokithedog@reddit
Should Greece shoot down Turkish planes when the fly OVER Greek Islands? I dont mean 12-6 miles, I mean overflights.
OlivesforPresidente@reddit
you guys can try
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
And İ mean stfu
Several-Zombies6547@reddit
This "friendship" seems so one-sided from an outsider's view lol. I've only seen Turkish accounts pushing it
El_chaplo@reddit
It's for sure one-sided lmao! They r simping so hard, it's nearly shameful.
P-l-Staker@reddit
Damn, that must be the most British Turk girl out there!
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
We are one of the most diverse populations put there
People calling us racist is funny af my family alone has 1 dark brown person, 3 blonde people and 2 tan people. Yes almost all of us consider ourselves ethnic Turks
overbardiche@reddit
I suppose it's the same here with ethnic United Statians
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
İdk enough to judge but it seems like US has lots of institutional problems with racism rather than social ones
Could be wrong ofc but thats the vibe İ get from a lot of the news on the internet
P-l-Staker@reddit
TIL that is a race of people. I just thought it's something you get on a holiday! 😂
But yeah, I was talking about her accent.
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
İdk what do you call someone who isnt fully white and not fully brown?
P-l-Staker@reddit
What is "fully brown"? As opposed to being part white, part ginger and part black? 😅
Just playing with ya. Light brow, brown and dark brown would do.
Hefty_Jaguar4305@reddit
Vay, bu kadın türkmi?? Biz Dobruca Türkleri öyle değiliz. Biz daha esmer tenli tipleriz.
Kadının Arnavut ya da Böşnakyalı olduğunu tüşündim.
Repulsive_Work_226@reddit
Kadin Balkan göçmeni zaten. Hatta dna testinde 0 çıkıyorda dayısı Ne mutlu Türküm diyene de diyor.
Hefty_Jaguar4305@reddit
Hmm, kesinlikle Yugoslavya'dan.
Rumıniyadaki türkler bütünley başka körüneler.
Biz daha esmeriz, kara saçlı, kaverenki közlü.
Repulsive_Work_226@reddit
olabilir. bu kadin şarkıcı galiba. özellikle bunu bulmuşlar.
EmreTaptukYunus@reddit
Kim ki bu, bir ben tanımıyorum galiba.
Repulsive_Work_226@reddit
selen sereli
Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit
Türkün ırkı yoktur aga ruhu var.
Türkün ırkı olsaydı bu dek karışık genetiğimiz olmazdı, bu dek büyümezdik. Özünü yitirmediğin sürece Türksün ve Türk kalacaksın
Awkward_Writer5990@reddit
türk olmasına imkan yok
More_Ad_5142@reddit
Ne alaka? 80 milyon Türkün sabit bir fenotipi mi var? İlla esmer mi olmak zorunda?
Awkward_Writer5990@reddit
20 milyonluk şehirde yaşıyorum böyle bir gen yok bizde
Worried-Owl-9198@reddit
Neresinden
Hefty_Jaguar4305@reddit
Techirghiol (eski adıyla Tekirgöl), Romanya'nın Köstence ilçesinde Dobruja'da (Dobrogea) Techirghiol Gölü kıyısında küçük bir kasabadır, ancak atalarım bir zamanlar Adakale'den gelmişlerdi.
Worried-Owl-9198@reddit
Aaaa yakınız baya galatidenim ben
Hefty_Jaguar4305@reddit
Almost all the questions asked here are strange.
They're either all about Greece ir Turkey...
But all these questions have absolutely nothing to do with Ask Balkans.
SE_prof@reddit
☝️🤓 except those that are about Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Albania, Bulgaria, and sometimes Romania.
Hefty_Jaguar4305@reddit
Unfortunately, questions about these countries often get lost in the shuffle.
What I often read here is: Does Slovenia belong to the Balkans, etc.? LOL
Who actually asks these questions? From English-speaking countries, or Pakistan, or South Asia?
Well, certainly not from the Balkans.
SE_prof@reddit
I seriously doubt that. I lurk in the sub very often and I definitely see a significant traffic about these countries.
10 most recent posts in the sub:
Turkey: 2 Greece: 1 Albania: 1 America (???): 1 Croatia: 1 Romania: 1 Georgia: 1 Serbia: 1 (I assume it's about Serbia based on the titles of movies they mention)
Hefty_Jaguar4305@reddit
eee ozaman tamam...neyse...
SE_prof@reddit
Excuse me?
inki471@reddit
He says “Oh, okaythen…whatever…”
I’m trying so hard to restrain the annoying grammar police inside me rn
SE_prof@reddit
Let the hate flow through you.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
There’s nothing wrong with that. Ask Balkans is about asking people in the Balkans. Turkey & Greece are two very influential countries in the region, so more questions about them are to be expected.
You’re always welcome to diversify the sub with topics about other Balkan countries 🥂
Hefty_Jaguar4305@reddit
That's the point.
There's hardly any question about Balkan countries.
SOHONEYSAME@reddit
exactly.
"Anatolia" is Middle East,
& Greece is southern, etc.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
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Substratas@reddit (OP)
Lol, what the hell?!?! Why is this so controversial?
mosa_kota@reddit
Because why the fuck would you write "threat" when he said "friend" ?!
Substratas@reddit (OP)
I’m not the one who wrote that. But…why are you so angry?
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mosa_kota@reddit
I'm not angry, I just like saying "fuck". You didn't weite it but you still posted something misleading, whether on purpose or not.
Mountain-Yard-928@reddit
Because those Americans visiting the sub are the ones that change surnames and visit their relatives on stolen land in the Mediterranean
jhonnytheyank@reddit
This comment needs so much context.
Mountain-Yard-928@reddit
You can ask Mr. Mileikowsky
TriaPoulakiaKathodan@reddit
She's talking about football
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Btw, he said ”the biggest friend of Turkey” (idk why it’s written ”threat” in the text).
Video by @AlanTheDude
P-l-Staker@reddit
Kinda sounds like he said "threat"! 😂
Emir_1923@reddit
Biz unuttuk bile İspanyayi bunlar hala arkadaslik mi diyormuş
HopeIndividual1820@reddit
spain’s goverment policy is currently against israel. and everyone who calls themselves human should be on the same page
Iapetus404@reddit
Yeah the country who vanish and genocide civ's of central and south America and the country with the longest Fascist regime will talk and give us lessons about humanity....
lmao....no!
EmreTaptukYunus@reddit
They don’t have to be bad today just because their past was. After Francisco Franco, they’ve come a long way, and ignoring that would be unfair to the Spanish people.
Iapetus404@reddit
they haven't done it yet "walk of shame" ,so i dont believe them!
EmreTaptukYunus@reddit
Joke aside—I don’t actually think that way. No one should be made to carry the burden of things that happened generations ago simply because of the country they were born into.
I understand that this is part of your religion. After all, Jesus paid the price for your sins. But this is the 21st century, and individuals matter now. It makes no sense to confront someone who hasn’t even harmed an ant in their life and say, “Your ancestors did this or that 20 generations ago,” and blame them for it.
If Spain still holds any form of dominance or lingering legacy of slavery and colonial power over Latin American countries today, then yes, let’s criticize that together. But otherwise, dwelling on the past like this does nothing but spread resentment between generations.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
👏👏👏
RasyonelRumi@reddit
This guy talked to three Turkish women, and all three were actresses
casual_philosopher02@reddit
let's not be suspicious he just happened to find 3 actresses because he looked for the most photogenic people!!! /s
Iapetus404@reddit
Right now Turkey's biggest threat is Spain?
So everyday you have different threats???
Like holidays in the calendar????
Substratas@reddit (OP)
He said best friend, but the AI translator is hood af.
Iapetus404@reddit
lol you're right
MinimumArt8781@reddit
Not all European Union countries are in the Same position that Spain is. Unfortunately some have it bad because of the Russians and we pretty much have to be careful in regards to positioning against the Orange pedo Clown. He's 3 more years in office.....of course we would all have liked to be able to have a better situation, if it were for me personally, sanctions on Israel should have been imposed years ago, but how can someone do that when they pretty much own the US government?
AcanthocephalaSea410@reddit
In period of developing relations among Mediterranean countries, and Spain is acting sensibly in every aspect. Both countries supply food to Europe.
Fun_Selection8699@reddit
Delete your account
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
Because some people who deny reality and tries cope with it have hard time with answering "Pakistan, Syria, Indonesia, Malaysia, Qatar, Morocco, Libya, Somali" when they hear this question.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
Saying this as someone who lives in Western Europe for 6 years. In Europe, Turks are the only group that you can be openly racist with and nothing will happen to you. Arabs and Gypsies are far more well treated. I experienced people I talked and had good time with stop talking to me when I tell them I'm Turkish at least a 1000 times. Plus I study in Speech Pathology, students here are supposed to be Tolerant and Welcoming since they'll work with infants.
I had the occasion of talking with many Turks here from different backgrounds. Most Turks who speak the language of the country that they reside and live there for min 3-4 years often have very negative thought about Europe. Most Turks that I know became more right-wing after coming here. This exclusion is one of the main reasons why Turks in Europe are more religious than Turks of Turkiye.
Most Turks never have the occasion of leaving Turkiye because EU never gives them visa, they understand the outside world via social media and often cope with reality. Turks as an asian, Muslim nation came from the east, reached the depths of Europe and kept Europeans on edge for centuries (Just like Russia is doing rn). The mentality of "Turkey can invade us any time" transmitted through generations and proverbs, stories showing Turks us monsters got really famous. The European Identity itself has been empowered by this "There are Asian Muslims who marched until the half of our lands. We should unite!" European itself means Not Turk.
This is why as Turkish people we are seen negatively in Europe and Europe will never be our ally or a friend. Even Balkaners don't see us in their league, most don't consider Turkiye to be Balkan. However most young Turks can't accept it and they deny all these facts and keep coping by saying "Oh no Italy loves us! Oh no, Spain loves us!" etc etc.
evoscheibe@reddit
Its clearly a propaganda. No one in turkey looks like this degenerate inbred white woman. Turkey is an arab country.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Clock that!
Fair_Willingness_708@reddit
Why not? What’s your problem with the new friendship?
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Why in defense mode? I’m genuinely asking a question out of ignorance bc I don’t watch news & don’t follow politics.
No-Penalty-7506@reddit
Jobless people
Erozbey@reddit
Turkey and the U.S. can't work together. Israel is the “problem child” of the region. Unlike other European countries, Spain has a leader capable of reacting to Trump as he deserves. And that’s something the Turkish people like.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Thank you! That’s actually a VERY good reason to love Spain.
Worried-Owl-9198@reddit
The Israel issue