2025 U.S. Civil Airmen Statistics are out

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live_drifter@reddit

These numbers are mostly just that, numbers.

If you compare this to the 60/70 GI bill boom the numbers are way down, hiring remains consistent, lots of those commercial pilots are pilots sold “training to be a better pilot” and never were trying to make careers out of it, same with flight instructors.

You have to factor in the fact that many people give up when it’s not the “have a pulse have a job” economy as well.

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SouthBobcat5619@reddit

Can you expand on what you mean about 60/70 GI bill boom?

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live_drifter@reddit

Yes I definitely can.

Here’s the clean breakdown using FAA Civil Airmen Statistics (rounded where needed for readability):

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1960–1980 (U.S. certificated pilots)

Year Pilots 1960 348,062 1961 ~370,000 1962 ~400,000 1963 ~430,000 1964 ~450,000 1965 ~460,000 1966 ~500,000 1967 ~550,000 1968 ~600,000 1969 ~680,000 1970 732,729 1971 ~750,000 1972 ~760,000 1973 ~770,000 1974 ~775,000 1975 ~780,000 1976 ~790,000 1977 ~800,000 1978 ~810,000 1979 ~820,000 1980 827,071 (peak)

Trend: explosive growth through the 60s, slower climb through the 70s, peak in 1980.

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2010–2026 (U.S. certificated pilots)

Year Pilots 2010 627,588 2011 ~617,000 2012 ~610,000 2013 ~600,000 2014 ~590,000 2015 ~590,000 (low point) 2016 ~600,000 2017 ~610,000 2018 ~630,000 2019 ~650,000 2020 691,691 2021 ~720,000 2022 ~730,000 2023 ~740,000 2024 ~750,000 (includes strong student growth) 2025 ~750,000–760,000 2026 ~750,000–760,000 (trend estimate)

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What actually matters • Peak: 1980 (~827k pilots) • Bottom: ~2015 (~590k) • Today: ~740k–760k

We still haven’t returned to the 1980 high.

The 60s–70s expansion was broad-based across all certificate levels. The current rebound is heavily driven by student pilots and early pipeline growth, not the same kind of system-wide expansion.

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Simple comparison • 1960 → 1980: massive growth (+~480k pilots) • 1980 → 2015: long decline (−~240k) • 2015 → 2026: partial recovery (+~150k)

Net: still below peak despite the recent surge.

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SouthBobcat5619@reddit

Interesting! Thanks for the additional context.

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Several-Village5814@reddit

20,069 Commercial certificate original issuances

(+2,325 vs. 2024)

12,961 Flight Instructor Certificates

(+1,517 vs. 2024)

Most telling

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Phycosphere@reddit

13k instructors walking into a global recession. We’re fucking cooked

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Status_Climate_6860@reddit

I am about to get my CFI. I am SOO COOKED. What do I tell my parents? 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏

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nolaflygirl@reddit

Nothing. Keep your nose to the grindstone & your spirits up. Get your double I & make connections everywhere at every a/p you land. Your mindset can make you or break you. Good vibes attract opportunities. "Luck", so to speak, is when "preparation meets opportunity"! You have the preparation; be open to the opportunities!

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poser765@reddit

At least half of those are going to get into real estate or pizza delivery or some shit.

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Overall_Raisin_9159@reddit

If by real estate you mean cleaning crew. Real estate agents are a revolving door, especially so during recessions, 15-30% of agents don't renew their licenses in a normal economy.

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poser765@reddit

I didn’t say they’d be successful at it, just “get into it”

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Tone-Powerful@reddit (OP)

Definitely worrisome. Happy I'm doing flight instruction as a side gig aside from my full time job. It'll be interesting to see how the next two years shake out!

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Phycosphere@reddit

Yup, the past couple weeks have really been giving January 2020 vibes

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schaf410@reddit

I mean that’s a bit extreme. We definitely could be heading to a recession, but the world isn’t going to shut down over this.

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Phycosphere@reddit

Most likely you’re right but you never know how bad it’s going to get at the front end of these things. It could blow over in a couple months or it could be the event we talk about for decades. It’s that uncertainty thats giving me early pandemic vibes

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schaf410@reddit

Reddit was saying the same thing when the Tariffs were announced a year ago. I don’t see a world in which things are good for aviation if this whole Iran debacle continues, but it’s best not to overly worry about stuff like this.

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Drunkenaviator@reddit

We're going on year 6 of this "oh man the giant recession is JUST around the corner!". I guess if you keep saying it, sooner or later you'll be right. But these fuckers have been wrong every single time so far, so I'm not exactly gonna worry about it.

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Wandrews123@reddit

Peter Schiff says to buy his Gold!

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__joel_t@reddit

Maybe not January 2020, but for sure January 2008.

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KITTYONFYRE@reddit

2022: “we’re walking into a global recession”

2023: “we’re walking into a global recession”

2024: “we’re walking into a global recession”

2025: “we’re walking into a global recession”

2026: “we’re walking into a global recession”

just keep repeating it, eventually you’ll be able to say “AHA! I knew it!”

“but this time is different because of a and b and c!” well, there was x and y and z in all of those years too. if recessions were predictable by morons like us flying planes, finance wouldn’t be an entire field!

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Phycosphere@reddit

Man, I really hope so.

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lainposter@reddit

Definitely going to take up competitive Poker to pay for time building. Anyone know a cartel I could not work for?

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Status_Climate_6860@reddit

Dude ATP, I am actually considering flying for a cartel. Think about it, you are making 20K per trip. And the flight school fees themselves are killing me.

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ChocoChipBets@reddit

Can’t log cartel time

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GlockAF@reddit

If a cartel kidnapped you, chained you to the left seat and made you fly for survival on bread crusts and tepid water I would not be shocked if the FAA later classified the hours flown as “for compensation or hire”

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ChocoChipBets@reddit

😂

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Right-Suggestion-667@reddit

I’d be curious to see if like gulf stream international and eagle jet is gonna make a comeback or not

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BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit

Best I can do is a PC-12 captain's foreskin.

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Rodrommel@reddit

Ostensibly, if I heard that if he’s got a lot of chutzpah, and if he’s really quit chhhhhip, the parents’ll pay the moyl, and he gets to keep the tip

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400Volts@reddit

Hours are hours I suppose

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BrianBash@reddit

😆

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Purple-Caterpillar57@reddit

Just got hired at the school I trained at. I was thankful for the opportunity but these numbers have me feeling extraordinarily blessed today. Wow.

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atthemattin@reddit

Curious how many of these were given to foreign nationals that won't be flying here or working in the country

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Da_hoodest_hoodrat@reddit

Half of my PPL course are chinese nationals. I’m at a decently large flight program in AZ, (NOT ATP)

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Physical-Program-509@reddit

I went to a large school and we had no international students

So there’s also that

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Da_hoodest_hoodrat@reddit

It’s almost like anecdotal experiences are just that.😂

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LADR_Official@reddit

I don't understand why any US airlines hire non natural born citizens

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320sim@reddit

Interesting thought. Do foreign pilots get CFI certs?

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Japanisch_Doitsu@reddit

Yes. Some of them do it for the same reason. They build some time up before going back home and looking for a job so they're more competitive.

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mianosm@reddit

Yes, they do.

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JustAnotherDude1990@reddit

“Hiring is still strong”.

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Bowzy228@reddit

It is strong. There’s just way too many of us.

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landingKSEA@reddit

13k new CFIs is nuts

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lil_layne@reddit

I did the math here. 42% of flight instructor certificates issued in the last 10 years have come in the last 3 years which is even more nuts to me.

“I can’t find any CFI or low time jobs” posts are not going to stop anytime soon.

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TheBuff66@reddit

All I can think about too is the 25yr olds who got hired at legacies during the wave and aren’t going anywhere for 40yrs. The pendulum already swung

(I understand this is still historic hiring but wow)

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Physical-Program-509@reddit

So many of those dudes at Newark and Atlanta

It’s honestly pretty depressing as a potential career 2.0 guy

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ResponsibilityOld164@reddit

Yeah exactly.

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__joel_t@reddit

More CFI certs issued than in the previous year, fewer student certs issued.

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BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit

It's a 13% increase from the previous year, so not SUPER nuts but definitely a large number. Interesting for sure.

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landingKSEA@reddit

Yeah but compare it to 2019 where it was only +4,881! Sure, the number of new ATPs is also way up since 2019 but there are no where near enough jobs for these instructors

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BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit

there are no where near enough jobs for these instructors

Yes, that is obvious by the plethora of young CFIs with no instruction experience looking for jobs on reddit. They took the glossy brochure literally and took out the loans for a historically fickle industry. We're still in one of the best booms in history.

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RaidenMonster@reddit

13k+ into the LTP job market, 7800 out. Oof.

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No-Cell-8208@reddit

The timing sinks up with the PILOT SHORTAGE!!! messaging three years ago. That was when nobody wanted to listen to us old timers saying “avoid loans” and “have a backup” because we’ve seen this before.

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Fancy_o_lucas@reddit

A good portion of the guys who took up loans to go to ATP while I was in college are several years senior to me now, so I’ll retire with about a million dollars less than those guys. It all ebbs and flows.

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Physical-Program-509@reddit

Yeah I know a guy who gambled pretty hard and is doing pretty well too

Better go to the casino more right?

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Several-Village5814@reddit

Yea and there are guys on wallstreetbets Reddit who made a million dollars playing with options on their iPhone. For every person you hear it works for there are 10 others that failed and are going to be quiet about it.

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Guysmiley777@reddit

"If only I would have put it all on red instead of black that one time I'd have been a million dollars ahead"

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320sim@reddit

Yeah I think a lot of people are forgetting that these numbers are delayed in relationship with the market

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JohnKayne@reddit

For some reason I always thought there would Be far less M.D.s than ATP pilots but it’s quite the opposite. There is over 1 million active doctors in the U.S. but only 181,00 active ATP pilots.

Both careers cost a good deal of money to get into as well. I mean makes since at the end of the day economies of scale wise. Far more people need medial than they need to travel by commercial air.

No wonder it’s so cutthroat to get hired lol.

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LycomingO235@reddit

Medical is by far the better profession for stability and lifetime earnings. It is also far more difficult to obtain. There is an overlap between people who can become doctors and people who can become airline pilots but I doubt it is substantial.

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LaggingIndicator@reddit

It’s absolutely not better for lifetime earnings if you account for medical school and residency. I’ll have over $1 Million lifetime earnings by the time my 2 year older brother leaves residency and basically makes the same as me, a legacy captain. Add in the compounding for my retirement accounts and his interest on student loans and it’s not even close.

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Physical-Program-509@reddit

Tell us you were made it to legacy captain in the past 4 years without telling us

Someone has to win the lottery, might as well have been you

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LycomingO235@reddit

Specialist physicians will generally out-earn legacy captains, and if they own a successful practice, the gap can become significant. A cherry picked example the oral surgeon I went to who owns a Citation II...how many legacy captains can swing that?

An airline pilot’s career is highly dependent on timing. Those hired during the COVID wave benefited from rapid progression. A lot of older pilots or those recently retired will talk of furloughs, or needing 5000TT just to become a Flight Engineer. There just isn't that same level of volatility in medicine.

More broadly, comparing physicians and airline pilots is not apples to apples. The training, skills and career structures are fundamentally different, which makes direct comparisons reductive.

Glad it worked out for you and you have a million dollars though. Thanks for letting me know that.

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Moshjath@reddit

Yeah, watching my wife grind through Med School through Residency into attending life over the better part of a decade makes my hobby pale in comparison quite a bit.

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mild-blue-yonder@reddit

Dang that’s a lot of CFIs

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lucatitoq@reddit

Yea, but there also are a ton of students. The ratio between new students and new CFIs is lower today than in 2016.

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21MPH21@reddit

But it can't be a 1:1 or even 1:4 if you want to get your hours in a year or two.

The CFI market is fubar.

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lucatitoq@reddit

Yeah, because these are all the people who became students in 22-23 when everyone was saying the pilot shortage. I don’t think it will be this many in a few years, unless if ppl start pursuing aviation as they fear ai will replace/diminish openings in their current field.

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21MPH21@reddit

I didn't think it will be this many either but that's the problem.

As someone else said, CFI'ing is a ponzi scheme. Less new applicants means less hours teaching so it'll take even longer to get to mins.

I think the new student market is about to fall off a cliff. There's no influencers going from zero to legacy in 2yrs. But, there's a literal ton of CFIs that can't find a student or even a job. That doesn't encourage me students to spend $100k

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anonymeplatypus@reddit

I think you would be right, except for the fact that the “pilot shortage” narrative is still being spread and people are still buying into that. I offer free mentorship to a lot of new pilots and people wanting to get into aviation and I talk to a lot of people who were sold the zero to hero idea, still today.

The student numbers won’t really drop unless that narrative from flight school lobbying stops, imo

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21MPH21@reddit

I agree, and I think it'll stop as more and more prospective students, parents and spouses start getting better info - like here for ex.

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Drunkenaviator@reddit

It's the same cycle it's been for decades now. This one was turbocharged because of the influencer wankers, but it's just another round of the same thing.

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Overall_Raisin_9159@reddit

If you haven't noticed the attention these influencers have gotten has gone down dramatically. Subscribers and average viewers are way down. Some of it is over-saturation. Some of it is fatigue.

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21MPH21@reddit

I think it's going to be bad in 3-4 years. Regionals will be looking for new hires and find the pool is depleted.

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Drunkenaviator@reddit

Yep, and then it'll kick off another "shortage" and the schools will fill up, and then they'll turn out a ton of new pilots and airlines will be spoiled for choice and become more selective. Then the low time guys with 4 checkride busts will complain that the sky has fallen and the career is over, and then we'll start over again.

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21MPH21@reddit

I agree but I think this is not a normal swing. I think it's more like 2002 & 2008, not 2019 though.

But, that's the extent of my frame of reference.

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Several-Village5814@reddit

100% the student pilot figures will fall the next few years. A tale as old as time.

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senorpoop@reddit

Yea, but there also are a ton of students.

Private? No.

Instrument/commercial? Yes.

You can see that demo shift in the statistics too, look at Student Pilot vs Commercial/CFI.

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senorpoop@reddit

CFIs +~10% while ATPs are down ~20% is a very telling metric about what the market is doing right now.

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LowTimePilot@reddit

As a pilot working on CFI Initial with dreams of making it to a regional one day, I knew the risks going in.

Life is a gamble. I'll give my dream a fair shot. If it doesn't happen at least I can look back and say I tried. Good luck to everyone else also sticking it out. I wish us the best.

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anonymeplatypus@reddit

You have the right mindset.

Also, it will feel like it will never work… until it does. Keep grinding and doing everything you can to make it work, and eventually it will, trust me.

Best of luck to you

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_FROOT_LOOPS_@reddit

That’s where I’m at. If I have to CFI part time on the side of a different job for a few years, then so be it. The industry is always cycling, and our time will come

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Drunkenaviator@reddit

You won't be the first one to be coming in at a bad time. There were thousands of us post 9/11, post 2008, etc etc. Just hang on until the next cycle and you'll do fine.

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LaggingIndicator@reddit

Yep. Looking back, those 2008 guys are getting very senior very quickly at their dream jobs.

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Drunkenaviator@reddit

Yep. As will the people struggling now in 20ish years.

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stupidpotato_77@reddit

Well said man

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C_Saunders@reddit

A whole 11.34%?!? Hell yes ladies!!! 💅🏻

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Stunning_Phone_4663@reddit

Ya hopefully we see it trend back down to 10 or so

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phlflyguy@reddit

Table 19 - Original Airmen Certs approved/disapproved is an interesting one. I find it surprising the approval rates for Airplane -Private and Commercial are around 75% in 2025. That's basically 1 in 4 candidates for those certs failed. Sheds new light on the "I have x failures, will the airlines hire me?" questions that pop up every day.

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JustAnotherDude1990@reddit

Given the plethora of pilots they have to choose from that didnt fail, it doesnt make anyone feel better.

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120SR@reddit

A huge increase in CFIs and commercial certs + a decrease in PPLs = there’s been an unsustainable boom and people believing flight school lies so the tide is going to lower and leave thousands with 100k + in loans and no job to pay them off with.

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Inevitable_Mix_455@reddit

Hey just like the rest of college grads!

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lil_layne@reddit

There was a decrease in student pilots not private pilots

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120SR@reddit

Hence the prymaid scheme is collapsing on itself

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lil_layne@reddit

I agree with what you are saying but I wanted to clarify so people know. It also interesting to note that there was a decreasing PPLs issued in 2024 and that then increased again last year.

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Jay18001@reddit

I feel bad for the 2 people that got a recreational, like why

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Biker1124@reddit

I’m surprised it still exists given the recent changes to sport

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lckyguardian@reddit

Recent changes being… 🤔

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BluProfessor@reddit

MOSAIC

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shrunkenhead041@reddit

I suspect it is people who just want to be "different"...

I guess at this point it would cost more to eliminate it than it would be worth.

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poser765@reddit

Certificate/ratings collectors.

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Jay18001@reddit

It does have a 100% pass rate so maybe they are on to something

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AviatorCrafty@reddit

Do regular DPEs get to issue recreational certificates? I never could find a recreational designation for DPEs

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Bowzy228@reddit

We’re definitely fcked.

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melloboi123@reddit

While everyone is being a bit hiring Armageddon over here, I'd like to point out something (more like ask).

I'm from India and I follow this sub quite a lot. A huge amount of students from asia (including India) get all their licenses in the US. Are these issuances counted in these statistics?
If they are, atleast a couple thousand of those are international students who go back to their own country to fly.

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MacAttack0711@reddit

Deduct the students from the total airmen and it’s right around 510,000. Not bad. Interesting to see CFI certs are up a good bit, while hiring is currently “slower”. Curious to see how that plays out long term, I think some people are going to find other ways to make a living, especially provided that loans will be due soon.

Had a DPE theorize with me that they think ATP mins are going to change, due to the ~25% increase in runway incursions over the last year or two. Curious how that may factor in too, if it comes to fruition.

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CamoJG@reddit

I’m definitely not curious to see how it factors in because I’ll be cooked in ways previously thought unimaginable

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MacAttack0711@reddit

That makes two of us but if I’m cooked, then I’m cooked. Not much you or I can do about it.

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CamoJG@reddit

I guess you could walk away from the industry to get away from it but I’m pretty sure that’s out of the question for both of us too

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MacAttack0711@reddit

I have a strong background in corporate sales and management and I could golden parachute my way out of aviation if I absolutely had to, but I left that behind for a reason, and I love flying way too much to give it up. Absolutely worst case I’d go back to that on some sort of consultant basis where I can CFI something fun like tailwheel on the side and stay proficient while making money until the market changes, but I’d rather just go full speed towards my end goal.

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