How do you adjust/tune a carburetor?
Posted by regularjoe2020@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 35 comments
Ive never adjusted a carburetor before im im suspecting my car is running rich because i can smell gasoline from the exhaust. The idle is a little bit shaky too, any tips on how do i know how much to turn the screws??
Hotdogpizzathehut@reddit
Ok! How I have also ways done it.learned from a old guy at the shop. .. I'm probably wrong...
Turn the screws so the car just wants to cut off then a half turn back the other direction.
ArbitraryMeritocracy@reddit
Sounds like an air compressor. Jesus Christ a whole different animal.
ArbitraryMeritocracy@reddit
Someone obviously fucked with it first. I couldn't prove it but it was obviously fucked before I ever touched it.
I almost feel like someone tried to set me up with the FRS.
ArbitraryMeritocracy@reddit
Long story short, the valve stems weren't even or straight. I forget who asked me to look at them, if it was Cheif or Graff. Every day, didn't matter what the situation was I was trained for "Can you take a look at this" when something was remotely related to generators. I imagine since the air compressor was run off the generator on the FRS, somehow I was the only person out of 800+ people the could ask?
I mean I got it in working order, at least something that was more serviceable but I could have really hurt myself and others with the level of knowledge I had about compressed air at the time.
ArbitraryMeritocracy@reddit
Long story short: the manuel was on the FRS but once I started troubleshooting, the problem. I didn't start at the beginning of the manuel. I tried to make adjustments without having the full scope of what I was working on. I had no awareness at first of the compounded energy encased in this large tank of what I thought of as just "air".
My father had a little one at his house to fix flats or power some small tools. He'd never believe me in words if I told him a fraction of the things I worked on with no prior knowledge. I learned how to weld in less than five minutes. I cross trained on everything I could get my hands on.
ArbitraryMeritocracy@reddit
And that's why I don't like working on anything with documentation.
ArbitraryMeritocracy@reddit
So before I touched anything I asked for a manuel and most of the time it never existed. I had to hunt down these motherfuckers. I had so many hard drives ready to lock and load. Even when they went me off base I made a cheatsheet of storing information in my brain.
You'd never imagine how many machines I got back online with the information I stole from words written on paper that were transferred digitally and I could carry it with me wherever I go.
regularjoe2020@reddit (OP)
"The car just wants to cut off" what does that mean?
Hotdogpizzathehut@reddit
Well it's a feeling you get while doing it..
The engine kinda wants to shut off... like it will be sputtering, sounds like it's about to die... then you flick the screw half a turn back the other way to start.
regularjoe2020@reddit (OP)
i see, so just before the car dies. then turn it 1 and 1/2?
Hotdogpizzathehut@reddit
Also watch this! https://youtu.be/ZedF7QsnYag?si=aTaO0XPC0slHNzOw
regularjoe2020@reddit (OP)
thank you!
Hotdogpizzathehut@reddit
Half turn to start so 90 degrees ish on the screw. Then another 90 to adjust.
Laqota@reddit
Introduction
This comment is a bump for those who come across this question.
Although I highly recommend using a vacuum gauge I'll tell you guys both ways. I also 100% recommend you contact a professional in your area, especially elder ones. They know hundreds of amazing ways of adjusting a carburetor cheaply since they did it for decades. I've only been doing auto-mechanic stuff for 4 years.
Before I continue. If it's a single plane intake you adjust both screws at the same time while in a double plane intake you adjust each side independently. You may need to look up/remove your carburetor to check.
Adjusting Idle Mixture by Ear
Start off by keeping the motor off, go to the carburetor and find the idle mixture screws. Just fingertip them all the way in with a screwdriver.
After they're the way in. Adjust them both 1-1/2 turns back out. This is a base mixture (and some engines might even like this amount as perfect, depending on the carburetor). Do not center them, idle mixture screws can be misaligned with each other but it does not change anything but looks.
Start the motor back up, and let her heat up to operating temperature. If she sounds like she's dying or unstable, raise the idle speed up.
After she's hot. Lower the idle RPMs where it doesn't die like you lower it and lower it and she starts to sputter or diesel. Raise her up until she stops. Get it as low as it will go without running rough 😎. Then adjust one side one at a time (or both if single plane), half turns where she gets the highest RPM. Turn the idle RPMs down to compensate the speed increase. If you turn one side and it doesn't act like the RPM raises lower it back down. After you get them where you feel comfortable, raise the RPM back up to what you like (for example, I like raising my idle RPM until you can't hear the piston slap from worn cylinder walls lolololol)
Adjusting Idle Mixture by Gauge
This is easy. It's exactly like Adjusting by ear but instead of listening to the raise in RPM you watch the gauge for the highest vacuum possible. I still recommend lowering the idle to see the fine adjustments but it's not really required.
There is no set number base vacuum. It can depend on the cam in the motor and it's condition, the conditions of the valves, piston rings/walls, etc. Just get it to the highest number that the engine can achieve and then raise the Idle RPM's back up to what you want.
I followed these instructions. It doesn't run rich when in Idle, but it runs rich when driving.
If you have something like edelbrock, rochester, etc that don't have all out mixture screws you will need to buy a tune kit and put smaller jet's.
Holley's have Mixture screws that have to be carefully adjusted. These can cause annoyances like Dieseling, Hard Starts, Hard to start, Roughness, etc if not adjusted perfectly. Throw it out and buy a carburetor that requires a tune kit they are much better. PERSONAL OPINION.
Larry-Strongman@reddit
Carburetor, sounds antiquated after all these years with throttle bodies an EFI. I still recall having a four barrel Holley was so bad ass, throw in a Hurst shifter with a cue ball knob and you felt great. I digress.
Ashtar-the-Squid@reddit
Exactly how it is done often varies from carburetor to carburetor. What type do you have?
regularjoe2020@reddit (OP)
Im new to this so, im not sure. Its a carburetor for the mitsubishi 4g13 engine
Ashtar-the-Squid@reddit
I am not at all familiar with Mitsubishi but does it look like this?
regularjoe2020@reddit (OP)
do you know how to tune this carburetor? to be honest im not sure where the air and fuel mixture screw is. but i do know where the idle screw is. I've also found this image showing the Air and fuel mixture screw, but it has only one screw? the tutorials i found online usually has two screws. the image might be incorrect because it was uploaded by a random person. Diagram: https://ibb.co/gMJWdBK
Ashtar-the-Squid@reddit
Unfortunately no. This looks quite different to what I am used to.
regularjoe2020@reddit (OP)
Yes exactly! It even has my car model name in the link you showed
Fancy_Chip_5620@reddit
Have you adjusted your valves?
Can you first make sure the catalytic converter is clogged or not.
regularjoe2020@reddit (OP)
Sorry, im super new, im not sure what valves you are talking about. As of right now, the catalytic converter doesn't seem do show any symptoms of being clogged
Fancy_Chip_5620@reddit
Intake and exhaust valves in the head
regularjoe2020@reddit (OP)
oh i have not adjusted them. they are default ig?
Fancy_Chip_5620@reddit
They need adjustment every Soo many miles
imothers@reddit
Back in the day when I had cars with a carburetor, usually I found that working on the ignition got better results than tinkering with the carb. These were old enough that they had points ignition as well as carburetors - lots of maintenance on a points setup.
Imasuspect99@reddit
Are you sure that you even have a carburetor? Lol. Sorry for asking. But some people you just never know.
regularjoe2020@reddit (OP)
Yes i do, i already changed the air filter and now just need to do some tuning
Imasuspect99@reddit
What's the year make and model of the vehicle that you are working on if you don't mind me asking? I haven't seen a carburetor on a car in so long, I am just curious.
rudbri93@reddit
I got an oxygen sensor and air/fuel gauge to help with tuning my carb.
B5_S4@reddit
This is the proper way to do it in the current era of tech.
rudbri93@reddit
I think the weld-in bung scares people off. I know they make a clamp-style pipe connector with a bung already in it though, Ive just never tested to see how well they seal.
B5_S4@reddit
For a normal street car I'd just run a clamp at the exhaust exit, it isn't the best but you don't need perfection for a daily driver, and it would still probably be more accurate than old school plug chops.
Hotdogpizzathehut@reddit
https://www.thedrive.com/maintenance-repair/39831/how-to-adjust-a-carburetor