Viktor Orbán told Putin ‘I am at your service’ in October phone call
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cmrd_msr@reddit
Well, considering that lifting sanctions against Russia is in Hungary's interests (given the oil pipeline), I don't see anything particularly wrong with that.
Putting the interests of your country and your people above ideology or the interests of your neighbors is normal.
TheBigOof96@reddit
I have this weird feeling that Hungary relies on EU economy far more than it does on Russia, so cutting the branch (h/w)e sit on doesn't particularly strike as something in the best interests of Hungary as a state.
SlavaCocaini@reddit
The EU releases relies on consent of their members as well
Jersey_2019@reddit
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SlavaCocaini@reddit
LIBERAL
Jersey_2019@reddit
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SlavaCocaini@reddit
Lmao liberal tough guy too pussy to talk shit
Jersey_2019@reddit
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Jersey_2019@reddit
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Jersey_2019@reddit
I want to meet you irl and I'll .....😩, god give your insta id so I'll complete the sentence there
cmrd_msr@reddit
As part of the EU, it will not be able to stop cooperating with the EU.
And the availability of cheap Russian oil will make Hungarian goods much more competitive on the open European market.
TheBigOof96@reddit
Looking at the track record, it seems like Orban's strategy of cooperation with Russia didn't bring tangible benefits - judging by Actual Individual Consumption level (AIC) Hungary has now become the poorest member in the EU, getting surpassed even by Bulgaria in 2024, while metrics like GDP per capita PPP also place them among the poorest performers in EU. Seems like Kremlin is a great partner for Fidesz, but so for Hungary.
uxgpf@reddit
I'm sure EU would be more than happy for Hungary to leave.
It's money sink, ruled by cleptocrats who actively work for EU's enemies.
Have a Huxit and make it an Russian oblast for all I care.
sakezaf123@reddit
Because the other commenter was wrong, what Orbàn did with russian gas was that he paid above market price for it at the expense of Hungarians.
sakezaf123@reddit
Actually you can look at Hungarian energy prices. The Orbàn government spent over a decade paying more than market price for Russian oil and gas. So not only did Orbàn go out of his way to not support Russia, he did it at a cost to Hungarians. But I'm glad that people can reveal this easily that they don't actually know jack shit about what's going on. Orban also paid billionst to russia for a new nuclear powerplant 16 years ago, and all they managed to do in that time was to did a massive hole that flooded. I'm guessing as per usual some russian pocketed that money and left hungary hanging. (To be fair Orbàn and his buds also probably got some of that money.)
GovernmentBig2749@reddit
Ah yes, the good old....i know zero Hungaryan goods or products...
Relative_Business_81@reddit
Maybe it’s in their interest to get annexed by Russia as well? Make another economic puppet like Belarus in the east of Europe?
kwonza@reddit
Sure, Russia is going to annex all of Europe any moment now!
Also, isn’t “at your service” is just a form of courtesy? Why are people so riled up over nothing?
Relative_Business_81@reddit
Mainly because of the full scale invasion of a sovereign country thing thats been going on for nearly 6 years.
kwonza@reddit
So a full scale invasion goes for 5 years with mediocre results but also Putin is about to annex half of EU? Do you hear yourself?
Relative_Business_81@reddit
Yes. Nobody wants Russia to badly (and embarrassingly) invade their country for six years.
kwonza@reddit
Lol, “embarrassingly” is rich coming from a person with US flair. How did the 20 year-long occupation go? I see you guys are going into another one, have fun!
Relative_Business_81@reddit
Yeah America will go kidnap another world leader if you piss of the pedophile leader too much. Luckily our corrupt, also pedophile billionaires will make fuck tons of money off of the upcoming nonsense wars while poor dudes go an mow down people theyve never met.
But Americans generally all agree our government is shit and we’re all powerless to stop it at this point. Russians think they are perfect and never take responsibility for their wars and shift the blame to America. We’re not the same
kwonza@reddit
I mean, we live in a dictatorship and you in a democracy, either we like or don’t like the system we can’t change it. You can change it and the reason you don’t is because you like it, as a Nation, because Trump is doing the dirty work for both sides.
If next President is a democrat with the Congress behind him, do you think they will release Maduro, or will let Venezuela sell its oil to Cuba? Or stop sending arms to Israel? Or make UAE to stop financing regional death squads? They’ll just put the rainbow emoji back on White House Twitter account.
Relative_Business_81@reddit
You’re not wrong on the last point.
But you contradicted yourself saying we can change things. We cant. One side pays lip service to the elite and the other side pays lip service to the elite with a rainbow.
Fuck, maybe we arent too different after all
Relative_Business_81@reddit
Hey, watch what you say or we’ll go kidnap another random country’s leader from the third world. America only does what our masters in Isreal says so that we can keep our pedophile rulers rich and comfy.
But, then again, we dont lie to ourselves about how dumb as shit our government is. Unlike Russians who think theyre perfect.
TGans@reddit
He also said he would be the mouse to Putin’s lion.
cmrd_msr@reddit
its old story:
https://read.gov/aesop/007.html
pimmen89@reddit
Nope, Hungary has undeperformed the rest of the EU, being overtaken by Bulgaria recently, and Hungary actually paid above market rate for the Russian gas and oil. Putin obviously remembered that I think.
Prosthemadera@reddit
Yes, The Guardian article explains it, you should read it.
And in 2005? Or say, 2001? Nothing, it's not relevant.
They paid for the oil. Why should Hungary be thankful for something they paid for 17 years ago?
kwonza@reddit
That would make a better headline
Prosthemadera@reddit
True, they are happy with annexing Ukraine, after having killed tens of thousands of innocent people!
Read the article before commenting.
Czart@reddit
Maybe if you guys weren't actively invading Ukraine right now, your disingenuous whining would hold water. But you are invading them so you really should keep your muscovite trap shut.
cmrd_msr@reddit
Why? They're more useful in the European Union.
Eexoduis@reddit
True. The will and welfare of the people is irrelevant. It only matters that they serve the Empire, I mean Federation, well.
pantsyman@reddit
Yeah... Ok i mean it's not like you could really say anything else without mysteriously falling out of a window or a short trip to the gulag/frontline so i can see why you would say that.
cmrd_msr@reddit
Why should a country give up cheap fuel in favor of expensive fuel? For what purpose?
pimmen89@reddit
Because the cheap fuel funds an enemy of the EU.
cmrd_msr@reddit
Orbán is elected by Hungarians. He is not appointed by Brussels.
Consequently, he must work in the interests of Hungarians, not Brussels.
This is fair.
Practical-Pea-1205@reddit
If Orban doesn't feel the interests of Hungary align with those of the rest of the EU he's free to leave. He opposes literally everything the EU does and is only there to sabotage.
pimmen89@reddit
I didn’t say he was appointed by Brussels, I said that he is funding the EUs enemies by buying Russian energy. Hungary is incredibly dependent on the EU, hurting the EU hurts Hungary long term.
Especially since Hungary is not allied with Russia, Orban is merely in favor with Putin, and it’s short sighted to bet your countries well being on the biological health of a 73 year old man.
sakezaf123@reddit
Look, this entire debate you're having is irrelevant. Because the "cheap russian gas" is a myth, and isn't even how it was sold to hungarian voters. Out of the last 16 years Orbàn has been in power, hungary spent 10 overpaying for russian gas, buying it above market price. In hungarian government controlled media this was sold as "russian gas being better quality, than other options". Which is obvious bullshit.
Make-TFT-Fun-Again@reddit
Because said leader of the Hungarians can get a better deal for himself and his cronies by colluding with Russia rather than reap the rewards of participation in the EU, which come with too much oversight.
The latter would benefit too many people, making the individual cake slices too small for a mouse of such appetite as Orban.
He is profiting from the “cheap oil” by layering on a generous layer of taxes for his own empire, for the good of Hungary of course.
pantsyman@reddit
Yeah whatever, Putin and Orban suck ass, btw please keep reporting me russian propaganda bot.
Lizardledgend@reddit
If the funds for that cheap fuel will then be used to blow up your neighbours, I think that's a pretty good reason to opt for more expensive options
Prosthemadera@reddit
Really? A Russian seeing nothing wrong with a country being at Russia's service and the leader of Hungary arguing that his country should be happy to be at the mercy of Russia?
BasicBanter@reddit
“Your country”
Chipay@reddit
What I don't get is that Orbán has clearly been a mole for Russia for years. If that's the case, then how the hell did Putin not forsee the freezing of hundreds of billions of dollars in the EU? Unless, of course, Orbán is an even greater idiot than Putin.
rebootyourbrainstem@reddit
Well, they were counting on a quick victory, and then there would be no point in freezing the assets.
Also they were counting on the EU being in general completely incapable of making decisions on the basis of geopolitics.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Pretty much, while Europe is still astonishingly weak in current geopolitical conflict between Russia-China-US.
It certainly had a shining moment of its own, won't change the fact that they're gonna become much weaker once the US completely backs out of NATO and such.
Kattenaars@reddit
Trump needs congress approval to leave nato. He will never get that
RealAbd121@reddit
Most ministers didn't even know about the invasion either, they were left in the dark on if it's posturing or a real invasion, Putin is just REALLY that paraniod and close to his chest!
Eexoduis@reddit
Dude is such a scummy fat chud. Robbing his country blind, stymieing Ukrainian aid, all so he can continue stuffing his face at everyone else’s expense. Of course there is only a single country (the leadership, not the people) that benefits from his blatant corruption. Russia! That once noble power that now expends all its resources and capital to kill and rape and plunder. Hungarian, Russian, and Ukrainian lives are being ruined by Russian leadership and their cadre of morbidly obese puppets
SlavaCocaini@reddit
He is not stopping any Ukraine aid, all EU members are free to send money, and everyone in the EU benefits from cheap energy, not zionist stooges give af about their livelihoods.
sakezaf123@reddit
This is a hard to understand comment, but Orbàn is a massive Zionist, who's on great terms with Netanyahu. Putin is also buds with Netanyahu. Both of them support Israel, but Orbàn is an especially great supporter.
SlavaCocaini@reddit
How much free money and weapons do they send to their buddy?
sakezaf123@reddit
Ah, so if a country is poor, but they regularly speak in favour of Israel, and support and vote in favour of more EU support for them, and against any resolution condemning them, they are fine in your book? Oh they also made a "cute" head of state montage about how hungarians should vote for Orbàn, that is on Orbàn's facebook right now, where they prominently feature Netanyahu.
Not to mention that JD Vance is in Budapest at this very moment meeting with Orbàn and speaking to the press about how Hungarians should vote for him, to boost his nonexistent reelection chances.
Kindly fuck off and go back to selling your bullshit to americans, or whomever is still receptive to it, us hungarians had had enough of Putin and Trump's meddling.
SlavaCocaini@reddit
Hungary has a rich Jewish history, why is that so strange? You got a program with that? You act like they are giving Israel free money and weapons. The prime minister's Facebook page has campaign videos on it? Lmao perish the thought. Would the US ever interfere in elections?
Eexoduis@reddit
Hungary defied the ICC genocide warrant in 2025 by inviting Netanyahu to the country. Hungary consistently blocks “anti-Israel” motions in the EU. Over 150 Israeli corporations, many defense, operate in Hungary. The country is also a top purchaser of Israeli defense and military equipment.
SlavaCocaini@reddit
The EU doesn't have real anti Israel positions and the ICC is a farce to begin with
Eexoduis@reddit
Stop minimizing Hungary’s support for the Zionist regime.
Orban withdrew Hungary from the ICC due to its attempted prosecution of Israeli officials. You say the ICC is irrelevant. Orban still chose to withdraw rather than simply ignore it because he is openly supportive of Israel.
Orban banned the Irish band Kneecap in 2025 over their support for Hamas.
The company that made the pagers used in the Hezbollah attacks was literally based in Budapest.
Hungary is Israel’s closest European ally
IZ3820@reddit
Tim Pool gets paid to say stuff like this. Do you?
SlavaCocaini@reddit
Tim Pool the capitalist gets paid to say that the US interferes in elections?
IZ3820@reddit
Tim Pool the Russian stooge gets paid to whitewash Russia's aggression and lie about Ukraine being a warmonger. It's an invasion, not a war. No invader is clamoring for peace, they are just lying to continue their invasion unimpeded.
sakezaf123@reddit
Disregard this commenter, I'm pretty sure noone genuinely believes that Syria was a russian "humanitarian intervention". None of the russians I know do. And neither does the Russian government. It was there to serve russia's geopolitical interests, granting them a port on the mediterranian. Not to mention that as an added bonus they got to cause a refugee crisis, which helped them cause significant damage to the fabric of the EU.
SlavaCocaini@reddit
You mean a humanitarian intervention in the civil war of a failed state like Syria? Or you mean the Ukranian invasion of the donbas?
IZ3820@reddit
Lies again. If you're saying this for free, you're gullible.
DanDan1993@reddit
How can Russia support Israel when they are helping Iran with satellites?
I agree there's a complicated somewhat relationship between them both (Putin and netanyahu), but saying Russia supports Israel is... Something
sakezaf123@reddit
Because it's not their war that they support directly, as their geopolitical interests currently diverge, but I've said that Putin is buds with Netanyahu which before the last 4 or so years meant that they did work together, and tried bringing Russia and Israel together. If russia didn't attack Ukraine, and Israel didn't decimate Gaza, then they would have continued their work on bringing the two countries closer diplomatically. Also Putin is currently directly financially benefiting from the war in Iran, as one of the first things Trump did was easing sanctions on russian oil. So Russia can now sell quite a lot of oil, for pretty much quadruple the price they could have done even 3 months ago.
DanDan1993@reddit
"if Russia didn't attack Ukraine", "if Israel didn't decimate Gaza"
What if axis won WW2? Would Russia and Israel still be buds?
I agree with your premise but saying Russia supports Israel is just plain wrong. It has interests and some communication... But Russia is straight up giving satallite services to Iran, Intel and weapons deals against Israel and US.
sakezaf123@reddit
Russia is still perfectly fine with trading with, and maintaining positive diplomatic relations with Israel. But anyway, my premise, as I've stated again in the last comment, was that Putin specifically supports Israel.
DanDan1993@reddit
Having diplomatic relations doesn't mean support.... Germany still has diplomatic relationship with Iran. Does that mean Germany supports Iran now?
Putin doesn't support Israel. Putin supports Russia (or Putin rather), and sometimes that aligns with Israel.
Saying "Russia supports Israel" while completely ignoring how Russia arms and helps Iran in the current conflict is either delusional or just plain lying to yourself and others.
sakezaf123@reddit
Do you just not read my last sentence? I've ended every comment now with the assertion that it's not Russia as a whole who supports Israel, it's Putin.
Prosthemadera@reddit
Wow, this is crazy. He's not just a traitor but also very pathetic.
But I love how all these leaks come out so close to the election. Can't wait for this asshole to leave.
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