New e-bike customer reality check
Posted by sakko303@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 59 comments
I thought I could browse company websites, find a reputable name, pick a model and buy. I met a couple on a local trail that had rad power bikes. They seemed like they had done their homework.
They told me to check out the rad power bike store in Denver (30m from me) because it’s best to buy in store so you can get maintenance etc. The rad power site has a lot of models and seems to be in good shape from a web front end perspective. Is reality way different?
I watched a YT vid on hidden costs of ebikes and now I have questions. Is Rad Power dying and I should avoid them at all cost? The store is only open Wednesday through Saturday. Is it true they will charge you an assembly fee even if you buy an assembled bike in their shop? The bike I’m eyeballing is the radster road, at $2000. What am I looking at out the door?
Help me not make a stupid decision on my first foray in to e-bikes!
CommercialSignal7301@reddit
Stick with established bike brands like Specialized, Trek, Giant, Orbea, etc.
TabascoZack@reddit
Let’s add Aventon to the list! Love my Aventure 2.0
Warm_Piccolo2171@reddit
I have the Aventon aventure M-incredible bike.
HoldingOnForaHero@reddit
Yes Aventon owner 3 years and loving it.
dkyle333@reddit
Yeah but these bikes are like over 2k right .im trying to find one with good commute dependability. And also not as much as a used car.
skullsnroses013@reddit
You can get a nice deal on upway on those brands too. Some of the bikes are even new but they're "old stock" so the business sells them to upway. I just got a really nice Bulls E-mountain bike from them with only 100 miles on it & at less than half the retail price.
skullsnroses013@reddit
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Not the best picture i plan on getting better ones on my next ride but out the door with the 3 year extended warranty & shipping i paid about 2600$
CommercialSignal7301@reddit
My solution, too. The extra warranty is nice reassurance.
skullsnroses013@reddit
💯 % i love knowing that no matter what happens in the next few years with it I'm covered.
skullsnroses013@reddit
Better picture
simonfan2@reddit
Salsa has some great e-bikes! Love my Salsa Confluence!
da4@reddit
I'm going to add Lectric to that list, they seem to have cleaned up their production issues with their XP4 model - and I absolutely love my Xpress 750.
Lorandite@reddit
You are comparing 50 to 100 years of bike production to a company that has less then 10 years of experience, probably less then 10 engineers also.
Apples to chewing gum
Kong28@reddit
And SpaceX is the one launching rockets every 3 days and not NASA. Other EV manufactures are leaving Ford in the dust.
Obviously having the scale and inertia of a huge company is good for "oh wow I didn't think they'd go bankrupt", but doesn't immediately make their product better than a newer company's.
stillyoinkgasp@reddit
By your logic, Rad should have also been on that list.
Not to mention that the quality of bikes from Specialized et al eats Lectric et al for lunch.
Apples to Brussel Sprouts.
Salty-Entrepreneur11@reddit
their bikes are crap
Same_Bit2000@reddit
Aren’t they all well over the mentioned budget?
CommercialSignal7301@reddit
If you shop carefully, there are deals.
growmeeoohgrowmeo@reddit
I’m getting royally bent over by cannondale on their ebike. You’d think a big company would stand behind their equipment……
Jeff_Pagu@reddit
What’s going on if you don’t mind sharing?
growmeeoohgrowmeo@reddit
450 bucks for a new battery on a three year old bike
SammySchnitzel@reddit
That's not a bad price in my opinion. Specialized charges $1000 for a replacement battery for my 2021 Como 3.0 ebike.
Your battery wore out kind of fast though.
CommercialSignal7301@reddit
Just curious if you bought it through a shop or directly from Cannondale?
Kyeld@reddit
That's not really outrageous. Ebike battery prices aren't dependent on the age of the bike.
Relative-Display-676@reddit
Cost me $350 for new battery on a no name Chinese brand ebike after two years. But get this, they had 6 months warranty 😂.
Jeff_Pagu@reddit
From what I’m reading Bosch ebike batteries are warrantied for 2 years, unfortunately you may be past that. Can’t really blame Cannondale for it
CommercialSignal7301@reddit
At least there’s still a company to contact.
sassysquatchlove@reddit
Find an AIMA dealer. Way better quality than a Rad Power.
Significant-Safe-793@reddit
I carefully researched my ebike purchases and went with very established brands. Both then went bankrupt...VanMoof and Rad. My Rad is still running great though with 1,100 miles on it. No problems at all
bigthaddy00@reddit
I have a Trek Allant 8+S as my daily commuter and love it. Mid drive is the way to go, I like having no throttle I like that it still feels very much like a bike just with some assist.
JeremyFromKenosha@reddit
Rad used to be reputable. They were high-end, in the early days. They got drained from some lawsuits and don't seem to have sprung bag. They are not able to support the customer very well now, as they're insolvent. They're not making updates. I'd avoid them, unless you're up for "A Project" or are ready to have zero customer support a year from now.
You'll be safe with bike shop brands.
Aventon is a pretty good bet, as they work with 1800 US-based bike shops to get you service if needed. I have one and it has been great for over 2500 miles and 4 years now.
Lectric is a medium quality value brand, but their customer service is excellent. They're a good bang-for-buck option, just not using the best components. Local bike shops won't support them as often. I have one of these too, and I can see why they're less expensive. Quick-release skewers with disc brakes is kind of cheesy and they won't stay aligned very well over bumps like my Aventon's thru-axle. The features and display are well-sorted, but more basic. Component quality is not as good. For example, mechanical disc brakes instead of hydraulic. It's serviceable, but just not as "nice". Fine-tuning things is not always possible, for example the clamp for the seat rails will never be quite perfect in terms of the saddle's fore/aft lean angle. You won't notice these things if they're all you've experienced, but once you've tried something higher end, you won't be able to overlook them any more.
$2000 will get you a nice entry level Trek. Top quality everywhere, just not as fast or fully-featured. Accessory support, service support; all will be great. They don't advertise the highest speeds or ranges, but the experience of pedaling one like a bike is MILES better than some janky Chinese thing that's basically an undercover moped that can't reasonably be pedaled. The result is that you will go unpowered more often and enjoy the ride more too. (unless your mission is just to go 28 mph as fast and far as possible, in which case, why not just get a nice used Honda scooter?)
James-B0ndage@reddit
If you’re looking for reliable, look at Velotric, it’s the only non big bike brand(trek, giant) that my local bike shop sells. Their bikes are ipx6 water resistant and their batteries are ipx7, I saw a reviewer toss the battery in the ocean and it still worked perfectly.
yangbanger@reddit
I would not buy anything electronic from a company that just went through Chapter 11 bankruptcy, but that’s just me 🤷♂️
mickeyaaaa@reddit
I'd risk it if its 50% off...plus I can repair it myself if it breaks down.
Graywulff@reddit
My business school professors said this as well.
yangbanger@reddit
jimschoice@reddit
I really like my Radster Trail. I bought it in November fully knowing the company was likely disappearing in January. But, they were selling them so cheap at Best Buy that I just jumped on it. It ended up costing $700 after taxes and the 20% cashback paypal was offering.
I definitely would not buy one at full price now.
I sold my $300 China direct bike for $300, and love the Raster, so I’m happy!
steampower77@reddit
I just bought two Alibaba bikes for the price of one bike on American soil with a rebrand.
JollyApe@reddit
What do yall think about pedego?
dianas_pool_boy@reddit
Buy a bike from a bike manufacturer. Do not buy a bike shaped object from some company that popped up last year.
bradland@reddit
During COVID, e-bike sales exploded. I'm talking parabolic sales growth. Most of the e-bikes sold were import bikes sold by US marketers. Rad Power was one of those companies, but they are not the only one.
Let's stop for a moment there and be crystal clear about what I'm saying when I say "import bikes sold by US marketers". Rad Power is a marketing company, not a bicycle company. They don't design and engineer e-bikes. They spec e-bikes that are manufactured overseas, imported, and sold to customers. They're not quite drop-shippers (RP has stores, support, operations, etc) but it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy.
On one end of the spectrum you have drop shippers. These are sellers with no domestic market presence. They sell through common marketplaces direct-to-consumer (D2C), and the bike's ship from overseas to the US. Any domestic warehouse operations are part of the marketplace and fulfillment company they use, not the e-bike marketer. The marketer's only focus is sourcing the right bike to fit the market demand at the correct price. They're notorious for a lack of support and popping in and out of existence in a revolving door cycle of business startup and roll-up.
In the middle, you have online D2C brands like Rad Power, Aventon, Ride1Up, Lectric, and others. These marketers have their own web presence. Some have a small retail presence. They have closer relationships with their manufacturers, but they are still not engineering companies who are designing and engineering new products. They are buying what is available overseas, selling, importing, and supporting the product.
Then you have tier 1 manufacturers like the big-3: Trek, Specialized, and Giant. These companies have engineering departments who design bikes. The manufacturing is still outsourced to partners, but the bikes you buy from these manufacturers are one-off designs that are exclusive to each of the manufacturers. They maintain a network of dealers who will support the bike and provide warranty repair, as well as service out of warranty.
Price scales with tier, because each tier adds overhead.
During the COVID e-bike sales explosion, all segment saw growth, but the D2C segment is the one that really grew. Rad Power was, for a moment, the larges e-bike seller in the world (by volume). That growth meant the entire company grew. The very things that made RP the leader in growth are the things that dragged it underwater when the post-COVID market contracted. All that support staff had to be paid. The company sold a lot of bikes, so they had a lot of customers, but sales contracted hard and fast. Next thing you know, new sales weren't bringing in the cash needed to support operations.
All businesses are growth-dependent, but the D2C e-bike business is especially harsh. Because these companies are primarily marketers, Rad Power's competitors were racing to the bottom of the market. Prices were dropping fast, and Rad Power found themselves competing with other companies with lower overhead. This squeezed margins, and pushed operations deeper into the red.
At some point, it because unsustainable. Rad's pandemic growth led to operational bloat that ultimately killed the company. It's retail presence — once a differentiator — was now an anchor around its neck.
And so here we are today. Rad has been through bankruptcy. They're still around, but they're a shell of a company, and there is no guarantee they'll exist in a year. There's no guarantee that any of the D2C brands will. If there is a silver lining, it is that the D2C e-bike market went through a real trial-by-fire. Companies like Lectric appear to have found a sound operating model that balances product, marketing, operations, and profitability.
The product we ended up with is largely disposable. Don't buy a D2C e-bike thinking you'll keep it for decades. At some point, it will become unserviceable, and you'll buy another one. That day will come sooner than you think.
ActFew4005@reddit
If you're in the Denver area I highly recommend ebikes USA in Denver. I just bought from them on Saturday and they were incredibly helpful. I went in thinking I wanted one brand they carry and ended up getting something else. They are about $100 more than I would have spent straight from the manufacturer, but include the build and a safety inspection after you've ridden a bit and before 90 days from purchase date to make sure all is going well. They also handle all the warranty work in house so you don't have to deal with the brand's customer service, and they prioritize service appointments for those that purchased from them (although they'll service for anyone!)
Really had a great experience with them and I got my bike today after purchasing Saturday night.
RCLogger@reddit
You’ll pay a fortune for Specialized or Trek. Look at Velotric or Aventon. Good bikes from strong companies and half the price.
RoundSyrup4424@reddit
Start with Aventon, Veloctric, and Lectric. Quality brands that won't break the bank.
If money is no object, you can look at Trek and others, but the quality of these is so good, I don't recommend wasting your money on more expensive brands.
sakko303@reddit (OP)
Thank you, there is a local bike shop that is rumored to carry aventon. I will go check them out.
I did look at trek and I know these are higher end, but some were listed at over 10000. I drive a used Prius C that I paid 14.5k out the door so it got me thinking maybe I am not the right customer for an ebike.
But if there are 2k e-bikes to be had that are reliable, serviceable, and enjoyable, I would like to get in to it.
I am learning by the minute the trouble rad power is in, and this is all helpful feedback, thanks 🙏
RoundSyrup4424@reddit
Happy to help! Aventon has 1800+ dealers so it's likely you'll have one near you. My LBS sells all three brands I mentioned. I'm partial to Aventon, but all three are good. Be leary of anyone saying only one brand is good.
Whoa, yea 10k is ridiculous. Fellow long time Prius owner btw. I was thrilled when I found out I could get a quality e-bike for under 2K. Already put 4500 miles on mine in under 8 months.
Aventon bikes have a 2-year warranty, and they cover parts and labor, so be sure to buy one from your LBS, not online.
I didn't know anything about e-bikes until I started researching and purchased my Aventon Level 3 last August. I've learned a lot since then. Watch a lot of videos; that helped me a lot. I've even changed both tubes, both tires, and put on a new chain and cassette.
The Aventon Level 3 that I have is an amazing bike, but they just released the Aventon Level 4 REC for $100 more which is even better, so I'd recommend that one over what I have if that kind of bike interests you.
sakko303@reddit (OP)
Oh very cool, appreciate the response. You are a proper wrencher now man, that is cool. I would like to learn to do maintenance but having that store as a backup that can help me out is important. I saw a level 3 review and really liked what I saw, I will check that out and the new 4 if I can.
RoundSyrup4424@reddit
Thanks! Acquiring a lot of tools. Thankfully they are cheap on Amazon -and- doing everything myself saves a lot of money. I was even able to get a higher quality chain that should last longer this time. Same for me, I do what I can, but my LBS isn't far in case I run into issues. Or for warranty issues. Yeah, the Level 4 is friggin awesome. They put in a larger motor -and- added regenerative braking! Will have to wait though, spent a lot on accessories as you can see...maybe the Level 5 someday!
FreedomX01@reddit
Would definitely recommend Velotric ebikes. I own a Breeze 1 and definitely like the way it rides. Great support team and fast response via email if you have any problems.
MobileAware2933@reddit
Go talk to the folks at epic cycles denver, they gave me a great deal on the specialized globe haul, it’s had zero issues compared to the several flats on my partners RAD runner.
funcentric@reddit
I respect that you've done some level of homework on your part which is way more than I can say for others. Radpower was a great company at the time. Excellent customer service. I've been to their stores and there's no hard sales tactics. I loved it. I tested many of the bikes. However, fast forward a few years and they kept insisting on their business model of brick and mortar stores where buyers had trouble reaching once they got their bikes. Their bike is inoperable, doesn't fit in their car and a regular bike rack doesn't hold more than 32lbs typically. So buyers were forced to go to local bike shops who didn't want to see their bikes. Radpower stopped innovating and figuring out new strategies to compete. Meanwhile, the competition come in and destroyed them. With larger companies like Radpower, there's a lot of talk. So once bad things come in the news like battery fires, word gets around quickly. 6 years ago, they were great, but not anymore. No reason to buy from them. Their ownership changed and it was all downhill from there. Less about bikers and more about just $$$$$ and they lost the bet.
Yes, there was an assembly fee last time I was there a few years ago. That is common with any bike shop however.
Especially if you're looking for something that high above the budget pricing of $1,300, you can really afford to look elsewhere.
You may want to look into the main companies, Lectric, Velotric, Aventon, Ride1Up. Aventon does sell at brick and mortar stores if that's important to you.
Also be warned, many budget direct to consumer ebikes will be delivered with squeaky brakes and expect that the tires aren't completely inflated (by design). Biggest regrets of ebike buyers are that they are heavier and bigger than expected. Keep that in mind.
Bobbyinredwood@reddit
Electric expedition 3
DueOwl1149@reddit
Dying? Rad is dead. It's trying to pull off a resurrection, though.
Rad declared chapter 11 bankruptcy a while back and finally had their assets purchased on the cheap. This is one of the most generous articles about their prospects, and it raises more doubts and questions than it answers:
https://electrek.co/2026/03/09/rad-power-bikes-says-it-will-soon-build-e-bikes-in-the-us-but-can-it-really/
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sakko303@reddit (OP)
Thanks I am learning more and more, and will definitely steer clear of rad for now. I understand their bikes are quite good, so I hope they make it but it’s got to be tough to recover from their current position. Best to watch from the sidelines it seems for now.
Jeff_Pagu@reddit
The direct to consumer brands I trust would be Velotric or Aventon. Otherwise stick to the legacy brands like Tern, Specialized, Trek, Cannondale, Gazelle
Alwaysindica1960@reddit
FWIW I have 2 (upgraded batteries, controllers and screen from area13) Radcity4s and a Radcity5 that have been joys to own and ride.
Other than normal maintenance not a single problem. I’m lucky to have a local Rad store as well.
I also have an Aventon Abound LR that is really nice. Bought off Upway.
Lots of bikes to choose from these days but I would stick with well known brands.
Good luck with your search!
thephotoman@reddit
Rad is a dead company still trying to operate.
There are some newer vendors making a name for themselves in Aventon and Velotric. Lectric can be good value, but they do make some compromises to hit their lower price point.
There are also the legacy bike companies that also make good stuff. Specialized, Trek (and their Electra marquee—none of the others seem to have an electric marquee), Cannondale, Giant, and the other major bike manufacturers all have good ebikes. If price is a concern, check Upway.
Userscreename@reddit
Check out Eforce bikes in Denver.
ScrewySiu@reddit
Didn't RAD declare bankruptcy months ago? Still would buy a RAD over a no-name Chinese brand off Amazon/Temu, even with the bankruptcy. RAD is a brand name in ebikes and should be easy to get repairs, if needed.
I bought my Haibike back in 2020 and apparently they stopped selling them in the USA years ago. I have no issues with local ebike shops working on it.