Trump vows 'a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back'
Posted by TheMirrorUS@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 347 comments
Posted by TheMirrorUS@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 347 comments
vixenique@reddit
Could this actually happen ?
Slight-State6@reddit
No.
When people say "no" to Donald Trump he says "no" back and does what he wants to anyway.
Open_Cold_8995@reddit
I could also shit a herd of hyenas out of my ass. In both cases you would have to see it to believe it!
ChameleonPsychonaut@reddit
It could, sure. I could also be struck by lightning while being attacked by a shark, according to the laws of physics, but I'd bet my life that's never going to happen.
Taphouselimbo@reddit
Is he counting our American civilization that he is juicing for every dime or only the proud Iranian people? Pedo jackass president.
ifnotthefool@reddit
America, how have you not stopped this madness?
adriatic_sea75@reddit
We can't. It's by design.
Dragoncat_3_4@reddit
Donald Trump approval ratings today
The latest data shows the president’s approval hovering in the high 30s to low 40s.
You could. It's just that, evidently, not enough of you give a shit.
adriatic_sea75@reddit
No, it's not that enough of us don't give a shit. We do not have the infrastructure to consolidate resistance.
If this was France there would be a bathtub through a window of congress by now, the Supreme Court building would be on fire, and we'd be in the streets of the capital shutting everything down. But this isn't France.
Tell us, from wherever you are, how do we oust this government when we're all broke, tethered to jobs that we're terrified of losing because we'll be without the bare minimum of income to stay alive and no health insurance, with little to no paid time off or sick leave to use if we want to participate, we can be fired on the spot for taking time off, and having no public transportation infrastructure to get us rapidly to a centralized place of rebellion? Go on. Tell us how to do it.
5Dprairiedog@reddit
I think a bigger problem for an uprising is the fact the US is huge. In France you could have the entire population descend on the capitol without much effort - the furthest distance is like an 8 hour drive (and they have better public transportation). Driving from Seattle to DC is at least 40 hours. In a huge country like this, with many miles of nothingness in the middle, it's very hard to concentrate everyone and make the government do something If you had even 10 million people all in one place it would send a message. But 10 million people all spread out across thousands of miles is much less of a message.
adriatic_sea75@reddit
I agree. That's what I meant by public transportation infrastructure. If we had high speed rail that could get us to a centralized point, but our current systems are not going to get all of us flying and driving and taking a bus for days to get to a place.
cette-minette@reddit
Protests here are not all in Paris. We often have simultaneous demonstrations in all areas. So instead of ten million in one place, could you arrange one million in each of ten places at the same time? Or 100,000 in 100 places?
And variety. Not just marches. Depending who is angry about what, we have lorries blocking roads, tractors putting tonnes of manure or rotting crops in front of government buildings, workers blocking roundabouts and major road junctions by camping with cozy bonfires that melt the road surface.
MyOtherACCBanned@reddit
Biden Afghanistan pull out the objective right thing to do less popular than this unjuified war trump started 💀
feo_sucio@reddit
The Doha agreement to pull out of Afghanistan was signed during the first Trump admin. Classical example of Republicans shitting the bed and leaving Democrats to clean up the mess.
MyOtherACCBanned@reddit
That's true but the public doesn't read so they see it as bidens fault
feo_sucio@reddit
YOU called it the Biden Afghanistan pull out. Do you not see yourself as part of the problem here
MyOtherACCBanned@reddit
Yes
Open_Cold_8995@reddit
Self awareness on reddit? Now i have seen everything
Tdayohey@reddit
My brother, what do you suggest us do? We can be loud, vote, protest, buts that’s about it.
GalaxyPatio@reddit
I mean it's kind of like leaving an abusive relationship, right. You want to do something but your abuser could very well kill you and we are dealing with a man, and a majority in the decision making roles in his administration, that would be not just willing, but eager, to kill a huge number of us, which is the real, honest reason that nobody has acted meaningfully. People aren't willing to die, especially for something that may not have guaranteed results. And the people who have legislative or judicial power to do something are either on his side or benefiting from this in some way.
ComprehensiveLime695@reddit
To be fair, he’s still historically unpopular for this time into his term. Also the survey was done before the latest Dr. Evil tweet.
Barnacle_B0b@reddit
I voted against Trump.
I'm also a liberal progressive white man and, have literally in-person in a number of dialogues in bars/backyards/protests/seminars, been told that men like me are the problem, and need to stand aside to let "the future of the left and the Democratic party have their voice and their time". Meaning women, LGBTQ, marginalized ethnicities and minorities, anyone non-white non-male.
So ya: go for it all you "centrist" democrats and leftist revolutionaries. I'll be here, as support, but now you get to take the reigns for direct action like you always wanted. I'll keep toeing the line on voting Blue as I always have but, we sure found out in 2020 that won't change or protect anything now will it?
What's your plan for when they don't let you vote in midterms? Go to the MAGA packed courts? Do you realize that if your opposition no longer obeys the law or "follows the rules" that you are not beholden to do so either?
"The nazis started shooting us in the streets, so we held a vote saying they must stop shooting us. Somehow, we did not have enough votes to win"
ifnotthefool@reddit
Lol, who says im a centrist? I am definitely not that. I hear you, though. Preach!
cosmicosmo4@reddit
The regime has a monopoly on violence, an unimaginably capable surveillance apparatus, control of the courts, and a majority hold on every local police force. They pardon their own terrorists and convict peaceful protestors from the other side of terrorism. You wanna volunteer to come over here and spend a few decades in prison while your family is devastated financially?
ifnotthefool@reddit
I hear you, just so crazy. I can't imagine how this is even possible. Need more checks and balances or something. Just so wild someone can just do whatever they want and nobody can seem to stop them. Bad design, lol.
cosmicosmo4@reddit
Yes, the last couple years have revealed that a lot of the checks and balances we thought we had are actually just norms that nobody dared violate, and the system was vulnerable to someone willing to violate those norms.
StillCorgi1516@reddit
Don't worry.Its been called off.
Practical_Hippo6289@reddit
Schwifftee@reddit
A gaze blank and pitiless at the sun
Limp_Profession_3936@reddit
Oh?
Practical_Hippo6289@reddit
Just posting this in the general sense of civilization as we know it ending in chaos and violence. Yeats wrote this just after WWI but the symbolism of the "beast" is there and that could certainly be applied to Trump today.
Limp_Profession_3936@reddit
Well, that, for sure. But I was questioning the deeper intimation of the poem and post.
LearnFirst@reddit
He's insane. Full stop.
mamroz@reddit
And no one will do anything about it! They are all a bunch of evil, power hungry imbeciles. There are no adults on board and the world will be taken along for the train wreck.
Carbonatite@reddit
The most disappointing part of all of this is that there is not one person with the decency to try and stop this monster. The rest of the world is fervently praying for a blood clot to end his terror because nobody around him has the goddamn human decency to say enough is enough.
karshberlg@reddit
Get a grip man, he's surrounded by people who agree with him. No one "fervently praying" is even close to the seats of power.
loralailoralai@reddit
You need to re-read what they said. Because they said ‘the rest of the world’ is praying for something- because the sycophants around him are just enabling his insanity.
karshberlg@reddit
Again, saying no one around him has the decency to stop him is implying that they ever would but they just don't have the decency.
It's like saying "why won't a single nazgul have the decency to stop Sauron!?", it's just not something to question at all because the answer is obvious they're with him 100%
Carbonatite@reddit
You basically just reworded what I said lmao.
karshberlg@reddit
I mean to me this implies that someone disagrees with him but not enough to cause a "problem", but ok I get it.
OatSoyLaMilk@reddit
The options are:
Quit: Be replaced by someone even more loyal
Something that'll get me banned from Reddit to type: Everyone at that social strata is too obsessed with their own pleasure for the sacrifices that would entail.
Go to the media: Be ignored because the MAGA loyal are still too high off the 2016 and 2024 wins to abandon him and everyone who hates him has too much learned helplessness.
Hell, barely anyone will even make major financial decisions based on him until that becomes the order of the day. You think there are adults in the room willing to risk their nest egg to stop him?
adamsoutofideas@reddit
All they will do is parades on weekends... which are kinda like a reverse protest, saying "we disagree but only enough to show up to a parade that's fun, never miss a day of work or even brush up against breaking any laws".
After the last no kings rally, people were questioning the legitimacy of a weekend parade as a demonstration of dissent, and all the no kings people were calling everyone who had notes "jobless losers" , suggesting they don't have anything to lose so cant criticize people who would only "protest" on the weekend.
If im in control of a country with the most powerful military and the biggest demonstration against my power only has attendees when it's on Saturday and everything is completely peaceful, while any suggestions of real action are dismissed as being unfair to expect people to take that kind of risk... I mean, that's as close as you get to a blank cheque on acting insane and taking apart whatever you want, right?
It's insane how broken the American people are with all their tough talk. They won't take any risk no matter how criminally evil their government becomes. You could send people around to hold people by their ankles and shake the money out of their pockets, like high-school bullies, and no one would do anything... hell, you could kidnap people off the street and send them to prison for not being white and... oh right, they're already doing that.
This is why I dont buy the assertion that there's two America's. If one America is willing to do this and the other won't do anything to stop it, that's just one country where the people who disagree get to pretend they're not responsible.
Im happy this is the end of the USA running everything and cannot wait to start focusing on something productive.
Kazuma_Megu@reddit
Real question: When January 6th happened what did you think or say about it?
What would you say or think if the same thing happened today with the tables turned?
iwasstillborn@reddit
For a protest to be meaningful, it must be inconvenient to people who don't protest. Shut down a highway for an hour. The non protestors must be forced to take a stand, for or against. And if the signs says "Hold billionaires accountable for pedophilia", it becomes a little bit harder to defend.
stephenph@reddit
Make it "uncomfortable" and I tune out or even protest against. Cause damage to my stuff and will call the police, block me and if possible you will move or be ran over
MartyrOfDespair@reddit
Cattle.
stephenph@reddit
It does not matter the cause or what signs you have....
Fickle_Blueberry2777@reddit
If you’re saying these things for yourself, you’re part of the problem.
stephenph@reddit
No it just means that I don't put up with bullshit. I have things I need to do, and places to go and your protest is not more important then that.
iwasstillborn@reddit
You're right. After all, what's a little pedophilia among the ruling class?
Front_River_2367@reddit
I want to share an experience of mine at the last no Kings day of civil-obedience just so you have an idea of how absolutely unserious we are and how fucked this country is. Once the "protest" started and a few speakers came up to talk about how difficult the past year was, how we're all here for each other, and the importance of "saving our Democracy^TM", they announced that a march through town was planned. I actually had a glimmer of hope for a brief moment, "we're going to harass ICE at a local hotel they're staying at? Or better, the ICE detention facility? I don't fucking care if it's 12 miles away I'll march if that's where we're going" I thought to myself. Then a sweet old lady who described herself as a middle-school language arts teacher came up to prepare us for the logistics of said march. The march was organized to stop at 2 places: the local Bank of America branch for financially supporting the Trump regime, and the local library because "that's a place where ICE has been kidnapping our neighbors". The nice lady then taught us a marching song with a jaunt appropriate for childrens' afterschool programming:
"You put one foot, in front of the other... x4
And lead with love!"
I did not join the March.
At this point I believe we, Americans, need to suffer immense tragedy and loss before the people will ever act as little more than unquestioning cattle.
AnOnlineHandle@reddit
History suggests people will just become more and more cattle, never rising up, which is mostly a thing of fictional movies. Look at Russia or North Korea or China.
Or this quote from "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45", which is a German's account of what it was like living through the Nazi takeover of his home country.
Front_River_2367@reddit
I understand your point of view, but there are also many examples of revolution borne from disenfranchisement from the systems of power. I'm not saying it will happen or is even likely, especially when you consider how fucking stupid and individualistic Americans are, I'm only saying that it's a necessity if we're going to see any kind of mobilization from the US populace.
Also, I feel like China is a poor comparison in this case. I met a good handful of chinese students in college, and from what they told me they don't mind the authoritarian oppression of their speech that much as they feel like the government has done quite a bit to improve their and their family's material conditions. Like, I don't hink their oppression is good or even necessary for their prosperity, but if your government is improving your life without endless bloodshed I'd understand why one would fall in line.
That book sounds like a good read, thanks for the excerpt.
AnOnlineHandle@reddit
We saw a mobilization at the last US election, and the majority of the US population voted for this and stayed home, despite having lived through one Trump term and knowing exactly who he was. How could you still have faith in the US populace at this point?
Front_River_2367@reddit
There's 2 things to that:
The first trump term wasn't nearly as destructive as what we're seeing now in just 1 year of his second term, and even then the worst of the material impacts have yet to be felt. It's the difference between someone saying "I'll kill your dog" and that person actually killing your dog then threatening your life afterwards
I never said I have faith in the US populace, in fact I despise these willfully ignorant dipshits. I personally believe that anything less than something worse than a second great depression wouldn't be enough to get them to critically view America's role on the world stage since WWII. It's not that suffering is the key that will finally get Americans to wake the fuck up, but rather it's a prerequisite.
AnOnlineHandle@reddit
We're still dealing with the hyper inflation from all the money printed during his first term that he and other conservative governments printed in an attempt to buy their way out of covid after they massively mishandled it. Millions died.
Front_River_2367@reddit
Good talking points. And do you think the average american knows anything about that or even cares? So many still believe covid was a "hoax". Frogs in a pot and all that.
AnOnlineHandle@reddit
Which is exactly my point?
PocketPokie@reddit
This, 100% - The only good thing about Trump is that he has done more to end American imperialism and hegemony than anyone else. We will all suffer for it, but we've been living off the backs of suffering and slave labor since the inception, so karma or something
Front_River_2367@reddit
Honestly, he serves as a good face to the evil, rotten, inhuman project that is the American empire. Previous presidents performed well at "competently" destroying the world and extracting as much capital value for oligarchs, but now we finally have an honest representation of what "American Democracy" really is.
robotermaedchen@reddit
THIS!!! this is just stripping the last mask of and saying all the quiet parts out loud. It's worse, yes, but not by much.
MaddogBC@reddit
They seem to think scheduling this hangout quarterly will fix everything and is "doing enough" . * million is roughly what? 1 in 40? That means only 1 out of every 40 of them think this is troubling enough to hang out at the park and sing kumbaya a few times per year?
It's insanity that they think anything short of quitting their jobs and grinding the entire economy to a halt is going to remove him from power at this point. They are sheep willingly walking to the slaughter and participating in the murder of innocents around the world.
I too can't wait for the inevitable fall so the rest of us can live in peace again. I have lawnchairs and marshmallows and my lever action at the ready.
Front_River_2367@reddit
No, you see, writing mean-spirited messages on signs about how trump is a pedophilic tyrant will be enough to hurt his feelings so much that he, and all the people who support him, will change his ways.
godisnotgreat21@reddit
How has not the entire northeast corridor from Boston to DC not just started camping out on the Washington mall till he’s removed from office is baffling to me. That’s the obvious move. Occupy Washington. Camp on the mall until he’s gone.
miltonmoura@reddit
I agree with the lack of efficacy of these demonstrations - start instead a full worldwide strike until trump and his supporters are removed from office
DofusExpert69@reddit
I honestly think social media has made everyone so comfortable that even if they are in poverty or about to be, they will keep going because of all the optimistic media they consume (posts online, movies, games). Everyone thinks there is a main character out there that is just solving everything for them.
I am honestly really disheartened by the people that just say "Well, I can't do that because I need to make money/don't want to lose my job". Well, then don't expect any change. You are a cog in the machine that sometimes squeaks but a little bit of oil and you stop squeaking for a while and keep on working until you need a replacement. That is literally all I see.
ahmtiarrrd@reddit
They'll faint from starvation, exhaustion, dehydration, and/or malnutrition while at their desks, their dining room tables (assuming they *have* a dining room), or out and about.
A few will take action. The rest will die as mindless slaves.
S1ckn4sty44@reddit
American propaganda is some of the best in history. All while ruining the education system, technological advancements being used against us, and more.
I am sorry to say that even if it is the end of the USA, we don't have much longer left anyways. Just enjoy what time we have left in whatever way you can.
It's all coming faster than expected.
ideleteoften@reddit
Consensus Manufactori in a nutshell
DaisyHotCakes@reddit
I’ve been calling my reps because this needs to end. His entire regime needs to be removed.
RIPFauna_itwasgreat@reddit
Climate-wise we were already going for a train wreck. This would be just faster then expected
cand0r@reddit
But he's anointed by God /s
pagerussell@reddit
He's going to try and use a nuke.
We are going to find out how much actual spine there is in the military. They will either refuse, or they won't.
And if we nuke a country preemptively, say goodbye to everything. It will give permission to every country with them to use them. Russia will nuke Ukraine. Taiwan is toast. Pakistan and India will pop off. There will be a mad rush by every country to get them. The US will instantly be pariahs on the world stage.
Somewhere in the military is some petty officer whose job it is to actually push the buttons when ordered to, and that person doesn't even know how important they are to the history of the world right now.
Grand-Page-1180@reddit
America needs its own Stanislav Petrov.
dumpfist@reddit
After that incident I heard they started running drills with dummy codes so that the people responsible for the launches don't know whether the launch is real or not until it happens.
chefkoolaid@reddit
If they watch the news, they probably have a clue tonight
dumpfist@reddit
Might be tough for the dudes in submarines.
chefkoolaid@reddit
Tru
Anxious_cactus@reddit
The ones who refused have already been fired. There's been like 12 generals who were fired in the last 10 days, I wonder why...
No_Foundation16@reddit
Bingo. The fix is already in. WW3 could get going tonight in earnest with Trump committing the nuclear genocide of an entire nation! Men, women and children will all die in horror because of the insane evil demon in the white house!
AnOnlineHandle@reddit
And the worst part is, just like every other stupid thing Trump has done, it was easy to see coming years in advance, the suffering and unnecessary problems it leads to after are all easy to predict, and yet not only did some voters go for it again, it was a majority of American voters who selected this, and then an even larger percentage if you include those who stayed home and decided it doesn't matter if he wins.
No_Foundation16@reddit
Yes when you include the millions that didn't bother to vote, the majority of Americans wanted Trump back in power to do what he's been doing. If WW3 nuclear war starts tonight the guilt is on their heads and in their rotten souls!
Mandelvolt@reddit
Fucking hell that is terrifying.
BenCelotil@reddit
There's still the soldier carrying the football. He might do the right thing when it comes down to it.
Undeity@reddit
These idiots probably have it hooked up to an app on their phones by now.
Clbull@reddit
If Trump actually were to drop a nuke upon Iran (and I sincerely hope this is another TACO situation where he acts tough but chickens out at the last second), I don't think it would immediately lead to World War 3. Mutually assured destruction is still a factor when it comes to waging a nuclear war.
What I think would happen is that it would make nuclear powers pull out of the IAEA, rip up nuclear non-proliferation treaties and push to arm their allies. We would go from nine nuclear armed states to possibly over 20.
The US would be rendered an international pariah overnight. The rest of NATO would expel US troops from their military bases, sever diplomatic ties and do everything they legally can to expel them from the alliance.
adamsoutofideas@reddit
Also immediately activate any terrorist cell in the USA without any allies or access to military bases to stage other attacks.
At the bare minimum, dropping a nuke means life of the average US citizen becomes way more dangerous.
It's the most hypocritical and insane response to this situation he created. You don't get to nuke the country you invaded for blocking s shipping route they control and had no intention of blocking before. This whole thing is lowering the bar for military engagement by any country. This is African warlord level shit, not "leader of the free world".
And where are the protests? It's disgusting how much can be threatened and how little visible resistance there is. Seems like most American citizens are begging other nations to get in the way of their own government before they do. It's the height of laziness and cowardice
AnOnlineHandle@reddit
Trump doesn't care. More panic and fear of the "other" allows him to offer easy populist solutions where he pretends to be tough and then hurts unrelated people and makes the situation worse and worse. Humanity is mostly robotic blobs that don't really think and go through the same programmed scripts again and again.
w3gg001@reddit
Sorry, but all wargames that started with a "tactical nuclear strike" led to the same end result, leading to actual real life anger and disillusion by many of the participants that the other team really didn't back down and constantly forced their hands and higher escalation. And trump isnt even talking "tactical"...
5Dprairiedog@reddit
And what if Trump says "If you expel the troops I'll nuke you next" Crazy, but not impossible. If he nukes a country to let people know he's serious about using them, what's to stop him from using the threat to get anything he wants? He could demand Greenland for example. He could hold the whole world hostage. Demand goods at a discount, demand this, demand that.
f1shtac000s@reddit
More important without US troops, and with Russia effectively allowed to use nukes once that precedent is set (were it to happen), the EU would be incredibly vulnerable. Trump is an idiot and completely insane, but he's not wrong about EU's reliance on the US for military support. Further complicating it is that the EU is incredible dependent on foreign energy: either they're getting it from the US an Qatar or they're getting it from Russia. The EU basically has to submit to one of these power in a real breakdown situation.
f1shtac000s@reddit
There's a considerable and growing body of analysis that suggests MAD doesn't hold any more in the modern multi-actor nuclear landscape. When two massive nation states where engaged in a potentially existential struggle, MAD was a sensible understanding of policy.
Today it very likely doesn't hold. For example, if Iran were to be nuked, why would Russia bomb the US? There's no logic there. What would happen is that nukes would be "back on the table" so to speak.
And replace them with what? This is major, major crisis for the EU right now: it's clear that the US is no longer the unquestioned ally they once were, but at the same time the EU is way behind in military capability. The EU is, despite their historical bias, incredibly weak right now: they have insane levels of energy and food dependence on global trade, and yet are extremely weak militarily.
If the US where stupid enough to nuke Iran (and who knows today), the EU would be particularly in a jam since Russia would feel very liberated in their use of their massive nuclear arsenal.
It's meaningless to say the US would be a "pariah", what would happen (and what's honestly already happening) is the completely breakdown of a world order based on US hegemony. The means, in practical terms, global trade as we know it will break down.
If/as this happens the nations that will fair the best are those with: energy independence, agricultural independence , manufacturing independence and a strong military. To give you a sense of what this means:
Russia: full energy independence, very strong domestic agriculture, already transitioned to wartime economy (articles about Russia being "weak" are largely propaganda). Russia's weakness is domestic manufacturing.
China: Energy independent except oil (imports 70%), surprisingly small amount of arable land for it's massive population (depends heavily on US and South American food imports), incredible domestic manufacturing, powerful militray.
United States: Achieved energy independence in 2019, currently massive net exporter of agricultural products, currently the US's greatest weakness is manufacturing
The EU: in some cases up to 70-80% net import for energy, overall around ~60%, could be reasonably sustainable as far as argicultural production (especially if political cohesion maintained), and not bad at manufacturing either (but with a big gap in defensive manufacturing).
As the world order shifts based on what's already unfolding the EU will be hit hard. It's biggest weakness is potentially political: if the EU does become fractured that you'll find that individual members states rely on each other to satisfy requirements (Germany has manufacturing and France has food, but they need each other).
I'm genuinely surprised how many people on this sub don't seem to understand how dire the EU situation is today.
____PARALLAX____@reddit
How does expulsion of us troops work if they refuse to be expelled? They have whole entire army bases with secure perimeter, armed guards etc
Acceptable-Bell142@reddit
Some of the bases are shared with other countries, like the NATO command ones. The US ones could be cut off from resupply, water, power, etc. I suppose.
Tricky-Campaign674@reddit
China would never Nuke Taiwan. China want a reunion not with violence and deaths.
Paul277@reddit
To think that when you do your research you find out this war is happening because of a weird religious doomsday prophecy thing that many of the Christian evangelists in the current American government and many in power in the Israeli government have
You get one side thinking they can cause the end of the world to force Jesus to return and the other side trying to bring about a Jewish wonderland.
Not sure Jesus would want to return to watch millions burn and melt in a nuclear apocalypse and it's crazy there are some that want this?
cand0r@reddit
I hate Tucker Carlson, but his last episode articulates, what I've been trying to explain to my MAGA family for years now. Modern Christianity has been perverted, and they are completely blind to it.
adamsoutofideas@reddit
It's the same logic to fill a boat with animals and find a guy named Noah to give it to, to cause a flood. Pretty sure Jesus is supposed to show up as the world goes to shit, not an invitation to turn the world to shit.
The American taliban has been running things for a long time behind the scenes. Now that they're out, I hope the world can agree that the USA is not a country anyone should support and has no place at the table, nevermind the head of it.
Turn up the Nigerian prince scams and crypto rug pulls until the US is broke and can't buy anymore ammo and let them rot while Canada and Mexico finish the fences to keep them in
6rwoods@reddit
I mean, just because the US is controlled by a demented madman it doesn’t mean that all those other countries will immediately do the same. Most of the leaders of those other countries have a greater sense of responsibility and awareness of the true cost of nuclear weapons. It’s all nice and good to wave them around to scare each other, but actually using them — and to a country right next door to your own no less, where there’s no way your own country won’t feel the repercussions— is something for the insane only. I cannot imagine that even the likes of Russia are willing to nuke land that they plan to take over afterwards, much less North Korea trying to bomb SK when they’re both tiny countries right next to each other.
Glodraph@reddit
Greater sense of responsibility? India? Putin? Pakistan? Idk about that honestly.
adamsoutofideas@reddit
If youre from the USA, you've got nothing to say about other countries
Glodraph@reddit
I am not.
lets_get_wavy_duuude@reddit
there’s been so much pro-russia propaganda all over social media lately. people are like “aww look at him holding a puppy” & forget he’s still an evil dictator. hitler loved his dogs too
DespisedIcon1616@reddit
If we drop a nuke and don't get nuked back, MAD goes right out of the window and the world will change forever with that. The only thing stopping everyone from using their nukes is the threat of being nuked in return. I have no idea what is going to happen tonight but if we drop a nuke.. I guess we'll see.
hitthelow@reddit
MAD would still be in place because it relies on both parties having nuclear weapons (we know Iran is close & definitely dirty bombs but not full nuclear), and I think as you said earlier it would open a can of worms vs non-nuclear targets like Ukraine, Taiwan etc.
The problem isn't immediate WW3 like I've seen hysterics as it doesn't work that way, it's whether this is the real domino that lights the powder keg towards it.
DespisedIcon1616@reddit
Iran has allies that have nuclear weapons who rely very strongly on the infrastructure Iran has in place to get their oil. A tactical nuclear strike on Iran may as well be on the countries it supplies. We demo their infrastructure we put half of the planet in a very very difficult position.
hitthelow@reddit
Still think it doesn't mean MAD, but agree it may as well be a Franz situation.
DespisedIcon1616@reddit
I guess it depends on the opinion of the men with their finger on the button and not us in the end.
Josphitia@reddit
My only hope is that most counties want the infrastructure that nukes destroy. But all that means is the one who holds the construction contracts makes even more $
notislant@reddit
Hes talking about his few remaining hair follicles, hes got a massive new bald spot.
SeVenMadRaBBits@reddit
Radiation from a nuclear explosion can travel around the world. While the most lethal fallout is concentrated within 10–20 miles of the blast, lighter radioactive particles and gases are carried high into the atmosphere, circulating globally for years before settling.
Mandelvolt@reddit
Anyone in DC needs to shut down the city full stop, fully occupy until there is no more threat of genocide. Our fathers and grandfather's fought and died against genocide, now it looks like itbis our turn
ChameleonPsychonaut@reddit
To be fair, out forefathers before them committed genocide.
DesignerBulky7711@reddit
So is every single individual, organization or system that contributed to the development of the current world order and allows these horrible things to happen. Somebody like Donald Trump does not come into power in a vacuum. This is the result of systematic failure across time, driven by greed and hunger for more and more power. Even now we are seeing empty words from leadership around the world, "calling for all parties to abide by international law", as if international law actually has any true meaning. International law never existed, or at least was never intended to be applied equally. This was already shown decades ago, and recently it has been unambiguously demonstrated and broadcast worldwide live as Israel commits genocide against Palestinians with international impunity and support. So many people have blood on their hands, so many countries and organizations are complicit.
Barnacle_B0b@reddit
Not as insane as Republican voters who thought Donald Trump should be President, twice, after attempting to incite the January 6th revolt.
Just remember that when supply chains collapse and you have to do desperate things for food, water, fuel, to thank your Republican neighbors for their charitable donations to your own reserves.
npmaker@reddit
The civilization he's destroying is the democratic, free United States of America.
Dave37@reddit
Most likely nothing happen, because Trump is a pussy and doesn't actually want war, he just want to manipulate the oil price for him an his buddies to do insider trading.
But if they go through, and they might have no choice because Israel might force them into further escalation by jumping the gun (as they've done previously), then everyone will suffer, including the US. If the US+Israel destroys energy infrastructure widely, it doesn't matter if the Hormuz strait it open or not, there will be no more oil from Iran.
Grand-Page-1180@reddit
I think we're way past whatever Trump wants, he's unleashed the gates of Hell.
Dave37@reddit
You look a little bit sill now, don't you?
Dave37@reddit
No he has not. He's an idiot doing idiot things together with his administration. touch some grass. You sound super-cringe with 40k larp language.
He's "unleashed the gates of Hell"? And what are the gates going to do? you're mixing metaphors. Calm down and learn to write.
Cerebral_Heat@reddit
If we can't speak up against this game being played with human lives across the globe, we're still living in chains. How do you think the rest of the world sees you? Do you actually enjoy being known as the people who loot the planet for oil and money? Because that's exactly how the world sees you right now—as global plunderers hiding behind a flag.
Opening_Acadia1843@reddit
I don't know how I'm supposed to focus on work right now
nothankeww@reddit
I don’t know how I am supposed to focus on finding work right now
maddiweinstock@reddit
me too friend
PrairieFire_withwind@reddit
Why do people not see he is talking about us. Our civilization. We are one, all intertwined with our fertilizers and fuels and feedstocks for various manufacturing processes.
He is threatening civilization-suicide because??? Why? Like please make it make sense. Is he dying and wants to take the whole world with him?
If i cannot live forever no one can live? I mean, this is what it sounds like.
I cannot wrap my head around this, much less how congress can stand there and support this. Do they not understand the spew taints them too?
hapsize@reddit
why? simply an attempt to distract from the epstein files. yeah, they're that bad.
PrairieFire_withwind@reddit
Yanno. I believe you.
Lets walk thru that. Lets say he traffiked in children. That is about as bad as i can grasp. Maybe a few dead bodies in the process.
Statute of limitations must be past in most all parts of this?
So the only loss is of his reputation. And that is already in shambles. I still am left grasping at why.
The only answer i have read that makes the slightest bit of sense is that Netanyahi is actually in charge and forcing trumps hand. The US has fuckall to gain from all of this military craziness and a helluva a lot to lose. A lot of lose. So much so i am struggling to fathom how the hell we got here, exceptnit was one crazy day at a time.
MartyrOfDespair@reddit
The truth of how bad it is is horrific on a “you mock and insult writers for being ‘edgelords’ who ‘are going too far’ when they write characters doing it”. If you need a benchmark, imagine Garth Ennis. Now imagine how far apart Garth Ennis is from Mr. Rogers. Now imagine a writer that makes Garth Ennis look like Mr. Rogers. Now you have an accurate idea of reality.
IIIlIIIIIIIII@reddit
“He trafficked in children” is as bad as you think it is? He literally raped children… as young as 12! Kids that should be in like 5th or 6th grade. He participated in physically beating them, having them bound to a bed to rape them, and threatening them and their families with actual murder if they say anything! At least one in particularly was chosen because she was the same age (13!) and had the same look as his daughter…
Yeah, I think he wants to keep that covered up and doesn’t mind blowing up Iran to do it.
PrairieFire_withwind@reddit
Yes, and worse than what you describe if you read much of the original stuff.
I do not wish to write all of it out because it HAS been written and is nauseous to read.
That said, his cult knows and i do not think those files would move the needle with his cult at this point.
wamj@reddit
He hates America, he knows he’s never won a majority of the vote, and we kicked him out of the White House in 2020.
96-62@reddit
No, because he's losing the war and he looks bad.
Unlikely_Purple3113@reddit
If the antichrist thing is real, he might be this century’s antichrist, but I think he’s as stupid as he is evil
Evening_Grass_8073@reddit
To be honest, I think the antichrist excuse is just shifting the blame from our species. I think we tend to ignore how we've only been relatively prosperous this past century because of what essentially amounts to just luck. Trump is nowhere near the first of his kind, and he's likely far from the last.
TopZealousideal7223@reddit
Ah collapse.
So much faster than expected, so much worse than expected.
The apocalypse is like the very definition of can't get any worse. But some how, Donald Trump actually makes
Anyway- I'm calling these people who are on Vacation, while a gameshow host literally threatens the existence of another countries population.
if you'd like to join me in calling into the void and leaving a message (Murkowski and Hagerty's office did pick up)
Here's Washington DC's Senate numbers:
• AL: Katie Britt (R) (202) 224-5744, Tommy Tuberville (R) (202) 224-4124
• AK: Lisa Murkowski (R) (202) 224-6665, Dan Sullivan (R) (202) 224-3004
• AZ: Ruben Gallego (D) (202) 224-4521, Mark Kelly (D) (202) 224-2235
• AR: John Boozman (R) (202) 224-4843, Tom Cotton (R) (202) 224-2353
• CA: Alex Padilla (D) (202) 224-3553, Adam Schiff (D) (202) 224-3841
• CO: Michael Bennet (D) (202) 224-5852, John Hickenlooper (D) (202) 224-5941
• CT: Richard Blumenthal (D) (202) 224-2823, Chris Murphy (D) (202) 224-4041
• DE: Lisa Blunt Rochester (D) (202) 224-2441, Chris Coons (D) (202) 224-5042
• FL: Ashley Moody (R) (202) 224-3041, Rick Scott (R) (202) 224-5274
• GA: Jon Ossoff (D) (202) 224-3521, Raphael Warnock (D) (202) 224-3643
• HI: Mazie Hirono (D) (202) 224-6361, Brian Schatz (D) (202) 224-3934
• ID: Mike Crapo (R) (202) 224-6142, Jim Risch (R) (202) 224-2752
• IL: Tammy Duckworth (D) (202) 224-2854, Dick Durbin (D) (202) 224-2152
• IN: Jim Banks (R) (202) 224-4814, Todd Young (R) (202) 224-5623
• IA: Joni Ernst (R) (202) 224-3254, Chuck Grassley (R) (202) 224-3744
• KS: Roger Marshall (R) (202) 224-4774, Jerry Moran (R) (202) 224-6521
• KY: Mitch McConnell (R) (202) 224-2541, Rand Paul (R) (202) 224-4343
• LA: Bill Cassidy (R) (202) 224-5824, John Kennedy (R) (202) 224-4623
• ME: Susan Collins (R) (202) 224-2523, Angus King (I) (202) 224-5344
• MD: Angela Alsobrooks (D) (202) 224-4524, Chris Van Hollen (D) (202) 224-4654
• MA: Ed Markey (D) (202) 224-2742, Elizabeth Warren (D) (202) 224-4543
• MI: Gary Peters (D) (202) 224-6221, Elissa Slotkin (D) (202) 224-4822
• MN: Amy Klobuchar (D) (202) 224-3244, Tina Smith (D) (202) 224-5641
• MS: Cindy Hyde-Smith (R) (202) 224-5054, Roger Wicker (R) (202) 224-6253
• MO: Josh Hawley (R) (202) 224-6154, Eric Schmitt (R) (202) 224-5721
• MT: Steve Daines (R) (202) 224-2651, Tim Sheehy (R) (202) 224-2644
• NE: Deb Fischer (R) (202) 224-6551, Pete Ricketts (R) (202) 224-4224
• NV: Catherine Cortez Masto (D) (202) 224-3542, Jacky Rosen (D) (202) 224-6244
• NH: Maggie Hassan (D) (202) 224-3324, Jeanne Shaheen (D) (202) 224-2841
• NJ: Cory Booker (D) (202) 224-3224, Andy Kim (D) (202) 224-4744
• NM: Martin Heinrich (D) (202) 224-5521, Ben Ray Luján (D) (202) 224-6621
• NY: Kirsten Gillibrand (D) (202) 224-4451, Chuck Schumer (D) (202) 224-6542
• NC: Ted Budd (R) (202) 224-3154, Thom Tillis (R) (202) 224-6342
• ND: Kevin Cramer (R) (202) 224-2043, John Hoeven (R) (202) 224-2551
• OH: Jon Husted (R) (202) 224-3353, Bernie Moreno (R) (202) 224-2315
• OK: James Lankford (R) (202) 224-5754, Markwayne Mullin (R) (202) 224-4721
• OR: Jeff Merkley (D) (202) 224-3753, Ron Wyden (D) (202) 224-5244
• PA: John Fetterman (D) (202) 224-4254, David McCormick (R) (202) 224-6324
• RI: Jack Reed (D) (202) 224-4642, Sheldon Whitehouse (D) (202) 224-2921
• SC: Lindsey Graham (R) (202) 224-5972, Tim Scott (R) (202) 224-6121
• SD: Mike Rounds (R) (202) 224-5842, John Thune (R) (202) 224-2321
• TN: Marsha Blackburn (R) (202) 224-3344, Bill Hagerty (R) (202) 224-4944
• TX: John Cornyn (R) (202) 224-2934, Ted Cruz (R) (202) 224-5922
• UT: John Curtis (R) (202) 224-5251, Mike Lee (R) (202) 224-5444
• VT: Bernie Sanders (I) (202) 224-5141, Peter Welch (D) (202) 224-4242
• VA: Tim Kaine (D) (202) 224-4024, Mark Warner (D) (202) 224-2023
• WA: Maria Cantwell (D) (202) 224-3441, Patty Murray (D) (202) 224-2621
• WV: Shelley Moore Capito (R) (202) 224-6472, Jim Justice (R) (202) 224-3954
• WI: Tammy Baldwin (D) (202) 224-5653, Ron Johnson (R) (202) 224-5323
• WY: John Barrasso (R) (202) 224-6441, Cynthia Lummis (R) (202) 224-3424
AggravatingMark1367@reddit
Called Schiff (CA). Tried Sen Padilla but couldn’t get hold of a live person to talk to
Low_Complex_9841@reddit
Definitely stands out (I guess "I" mean independent?)
kingfofthepoors@reddit
my missouri senators don't pick up the phone
Wrong_Organization29@reddit
Thank you! Called my red state senators!
TopZealousideal7223@reddit
Thanks you!
theCaitiff@reddit
Must be nice to have a senator who gives a shit. Fetterman's office has a habit of just not picking up, letting it go to a voicemail box which is perpetually full and not accepting new messages. He's full throated in his support for Israel's war and McCormick squeaked his way into office on Trump's endorsement.
TopZealousideal7223@reddit
Yeah moved on to the below now, Steve Scalise's office answered. So did Jefferies:
TopZealousideal7223@reddit
Hello_Hangnail@reddit
Still haven't forgot about all those little kids you assaulted pal
spadgm@reddit
Pure evil!
slowclapcitizenkane@reddit
T r u m p h A s C h i c k e n e d O u t
11symetryrtemys11@reddit
He already backpedaled
RichieLT@reddit
He’s gone mad and must be stopped.
ComprehensiveLime695@reddit
He’s always been mad. It won’t stop until the GOP stops protecting him.
RichieLT@reddit
Yeah but mad like the mad king from got.
FilmScoreConnoisseur@reddit
Yeah and he was literally always that.
accushot865@reddit
Trump at 7:59 PM tonight: “Negotiations are going BIG, so I won’t bomb them just yet. Maybe Friday!”
Gay_For_Gary_Oldman@reddit
Right on the money
DANOM1GHT@reddit
Iran has preemptively stated they have frozen all communication to head off this claim.
cosmicosmo4@reddit
When have publicly known contradictory facts ever gotten in the way of Trump's reality?
afternever@reddit
🌮
firekeeper23@reddit
Or maybe 2 weeks.... or Christmas.
GreyRobb@reddit
"...but I still want everyone to think that the President of the United States might nuke them at any moment, so by 8PM TOMORROW I will make them extinct! God bless the people of Iran! -DJT"
that fucking moron, probably
Spiritual_Move_8353@reddit
TACO Tuesday!
CrazyNext9283@reddit
Taco Tuesday is over, we ate the tacos. He backed down like everyone knew the pussy would.
springcypripedium@reddit
He has ALWAYS told everyone who he was (insert Maya Angelou quote: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time)
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters," DT-2016
This was dismissed, ignored, normalized by those who said, "this is just how trump talks", laughed at and in some cases (by other insane, cultish trump supporters) cheered on.
In 2024, more than 230 psychiatrists and mental health professionals signed on to an open letter declaring Donald Trump to be far too mentally unstable to be president.
The open letter stated that Trump’s “symptoms of severe, untreatable personality disorder — malignant narcissism” have rendered him “deceitful, destructive, deluded, and dangerous” as well as “grossly unfit for leadership.”
Ignored. Dismissed while the billionaires got wealthier. What good is money on a planet devoid of life?
To billionaires: your fucking bunkers won't help you.
Here we are with trump, in his own collapse, fueling the collapse of whole planet, including anything remaining in the natural world.
Even if someone could . . . would stop him (isn't looking likely, at least today), so much damage has been done on top of the damage done to this earth by humans for thousands of years.
SovietNato@reddit
I mean, this is who America is. He may be insane but so are millions and millions and millions of us. Maybe even most of us. Just absolutely detached from reality.
Zaynara@reddit
i'll agree there are millions like that, but only like 30%, MOST are not, but enough cannot or will not vote in important places
theprettiestpotato88@reddit
Then they are also detached from reality but in a totally different way
rematar@reddit
Early in his first term, I thought he had the EQ of a six year old. I was corrected.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201705/psychological-science-says-trump-is-four-year-old
phred14@reddit
I spotted the moment when my granddaughter became more emotionally mature than him. Unfortunately I forget which year it was, but it was several months before turning either six or seven.
phred14@reddit
Good point here. Is there any network tracking the whereabouts of various billionaires? If something is really about to go down, they will have warning and will be either at their bunkers or on the way there already. Otherwise it's more TrumpDrama.
_TheMightyQuin_@reddit
Im surprised if haven't seen anyone calling this out as literal threats of Genocide. Are people scared of using the g word now?
Donut_sucre_au_sucre@reddit
Where do you guys thinks the Doomsday Clock is at currently lol ?
16-Twelve@reddit
More than what hopeless people think it is. It could strike at any second.
OhmyMary@reddit
15 seconds to midnight
genericuser642@reddit
Hitler. Actually Hitler. Someone stop him. Please. I'll take anything else at this fuckin point. 🙏
Which-Appearance8818@reddit
Twenty years ago, I thought Dubya was the worst that a president could possibly be. Now, I would feel a huge amount of relief if Dubya was president.
GridDown55@reddit
100%
AlienHatchSlider@reddit
I used to joke that trump was a Bush family project to make W look good.
I'm so very sorry.
mamroz@reddit
At this point, I am rooting for the other side.
newtonreddits@reddit
I mean the US/Britain started it all. As far as I'm concerned, Iran was always minding its own business until US/Britain came in and bullied the entire region into letting them drill.
So always been rooting for the other side.
theCaitiff@reddit
To be "fair" it was Tsarist Russia and Britain playing their "Great Game" nonsense that lead to today. The US coup certainly didn't help, but western interference in Iran predates the world wars and it wasn't even about oil when it started.
fattmarrell@reddit
Have any of you even seen 300?
theCaitiff@reddit
300 was ahistorical slop that wanks over the spartans "dying as free men" while ignoring the helot slaves that Leonidas brought to the war and placed in front to die first.
Persia's existence as a civilization deep into prehistory is irrelevant to the mid east fuckery of western powers in the 19th through 21st century. None of what's happening today has anything to do with the spartans or the movie.
fattmarrell@reddit
Sorry it was honestly a non serious comment and just for funsies
Thor4269@reddit
I don't want Iran to win, but I do want Trump to lose
TanneriteTed@reddit
Ope, that comment earned you a -50 Patriot Score.
FairConfusion@reddit
But the DOW is at 50 000!
Nimue82@reddit
Let’s not pretend the IRGC is any better. Too bad they can’t all take each other out and leave the rest of us in peace.
SovietNato@reddit
Well the IRGC hasn't threatened to end any civilizations in my life time at least.
Nimue82@reddit
They killed over 7,000 of their own citizens for protesting earlier this year—that’s the official count, but the real number is likely much, much higher. Let’s stop acting like this is a binary, good side/bad side war. Trump is awful and evil, just like the Iranian government.
saltedmangos@reddit
Trump also claimed he was arming the Iranian protestors in an interview with a Fox News reporter this week.
Here is a quote from an Al Jazeera article breaking it all down:
“President Trump told me the United States sent guns to the Iranian protesters,” Yingst reported on the Fox News channel.
“He told me, ‘We sent them a lot of guns. We sent them to the Kurds.’ And the president says he thinks the Kurds kept them. He went on to say. ‘We sent guns to the protesters, a lot of them.’”
Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/6/has-trump-confirmed-irans-claim-that-protesters-were-us-armed
And Mike Pompeo, who was the US Secretary of State during Trump’s first term, was basically bragging about it on X a week before the Iranian crackdown in this post:
“The Iranian regime is in trouble. Bringing in mercenaries is its last best hope.
Riots in dozens of cities and the Basij under siege — Mashed, Tehran, Zahedan. Next stop: Baluchistan.
47 years of this regime; POTUS 47. Coincidence?
Happy New Year to every Iranian in the streets. Also to every Mossad agent walking beside them...”
Source: https://x.com/mikepompeo/status/2007180411638620659
Is this definitive evidence that the US backed or took advantage of the Iranian protests? No, but it does make the Iranian government’s claims about US and Israeli interference more credible than most western outlets want to present them as.
eden-star@reddit
We don’t actually know if that number is true. As that number came from the West
Nimue82@reddit
It’s wild that people here are actually defending a militant, authoritarian regime that kills its citizens for any kind of dissent. You know, like they’ve murdered multiple girls and women for not wearing hijabs.
SovietNato@reddit
Allegedly
TrickyProfit1369@reddit
Iran has the right to defend itself
Nimue82@reddit
When did I say Iran shouldn’t exist? I can support Iranians while also being opposed to their government.
finishedarticle@reddit
Two words - Mohammed Mossadegh.
96-62@reddit
I mean, Donald Trump always kept a little book of Hitler's speeches by his bedside.
PCLadybug@reddit
He was born a year after Hitler died. Sometimes I consider if reincarnation is real, and if it is what if he is just literally reborn Hitler or Mussolini getting revenge on the U.S.
ideleteoften@reddit
Something tells me that the reincarnation of Hitler would not be Netanyahu's lap dog.
FishstickJones@reddit
And by actually Hitler you mean not actually Hitler
IJustWantCoffeeMan@reddit
Lol have you ever translated Ben Gvir from hebrew?
Stufilover69@reddit
Ah, the founder of Judeo-nazism
finishedarticle@reddit
The man who coined the term was an Israeli philosopher, Leibowitz -
https://youtu.be/YzSZrvDFQ9M?is=twVmSh-AkWEkwOoC
friendsandmodels@reddit
Noooo you cant compare them to actual Nazis /s
PrinceConquer420@reddit
Why because they actually managed to get shit done efficiently and keep some of the promises they made?
Current_Paint881@reddit
I haven't been following the news much at all lately but just saw this. I just came off an overnight shift here in Australia and this has scared me a bit. For those more informed, what do you think the chances of him carrying out this threat are?
SillyFalcon@reddit
I thought the chances he would launch a war with Iran for no reason were pretty remote, and I was wrong about that. Safe to assume the chances are not zero. So maybe a 5-10% chance WWIII kicks off with a rain of nuclear hellfire in the next few hours? I’m definitely having a drink.
terrierhead@reddit
I know what needs to happen tonight to end this, and so do you. All of us do. Nobody will do it, though. Those close enough are either in the cult or too damn cowardly.
lil_grey_alien@reddit
Caligula, Nero, Ivan the Terrible, King Leopold II, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Kim Jong Il, Donald J. Trump
gingersusie@reddit
He's trolling us. He's not really going to do it, but he is loving all the attention he's getting.
Open_Cold_8995@reddit
And the attention the epstein files are NOT getting
MarcusXL@reddit
Thanks, Americans, for inflicting another 4 years of this moron upon the entire world.
Open_Cold_8995@reddit
I would argue that the election was rigged along with the fake ass assassination attempt
aa599@reddit
The non-voters deserve the most contempt.
The_Ghost_Who_Walks@reddit
I would argue that the people who voted for him deserve the most contempt…
ahmtiarrrd@reddit
"Everything Trump Touches Dies: A Republican Strategist Gets Real About the Worst President Ever"
Published in 2018.
https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Trump-Touches-Dies-Republican/dp/1982103124#
banned4violence@reddit
Well, if you don’t have a stockpile today, that’s still fine. If he does go through with it and you don’t stockpile tomorrow morning, you will have problems. Remember: full proteins are key. Rice+beans, PB+J, soy, they are your friends.
GalaxyPatio@reddit
People actually want to live through something like this? Remarkable.
ChameleonPsychonaut@reddit
Yeah, people really see themselves as valiant survivors for wanting to live in a crumbling dystopia where every day is significantly harder than the last, having to work ten times harder for everything while also being at high risk for violence. Ask people in Haiti how much they enioy being survivors. That's what we have to look forward to. You can all have fun with that. We've had a good run (not really) but I've had enough of this nonsense. In another decade or two, many people will sincerely wish they had died now, before things get really bad.
banned4violence@reddit
I mean, in 1884, a volcanic eruption here in Iceland killed 1/3rd of the population and blocked out the sun, leading to starvation in Europe. Starvation which led to the French Revolution. I think I wanna see the coming revolution, not gonna shed a tear when the guillotines come out.
TicklishViking@reddit
You mean the 1784 Laki eruption? Because the French revolution was 1792, like nearly a century before 1884.
banned4violence@reddit
Yes, I meant to type 1784. But there was also another eruption in the 19th century, which again killed a large part of the population.
HybridVigor@reddit
Not much protein in jelly. Helps to avoid scurvy I guess.
banned4violence@reddit
The protein is in the peanut butter. The jelly is added so that combined, you get all the essential amino acids.
HybridVigor@reddit
Are you sure? PB has all 20 essential amino acids but is low on methionine and tryptophan. Fruit jellies have a small amount of methionine, but not enough to consider them to be a good source. And I don't think they have tryptophan. Maybe a specific type of jelly?
banned4violence@reddit
The bread has methionine.
HybridVigor@reddit
Ah, that makes sense. I prefer honey with my PB on sandwiches so will stick to that.
Wrong_Organization29@reddit
It's better than eating dirt and worms.
enby-deer@reddit
I’m highkey afraid he’s gonna drop an A-bomb or an H-bomb..
Icedtangoblast@reddit
Can anyone enlighten me as to how the politicians haven’t impeached him?
96-62@reddit
There are articles of impeachment once again. I'm not sure they'll work, unless Trump really does nuke them, of course. Most of the stuff that people are now saying "This is the end of American Civilisation" is the same stuff they did last war, and the war before, and so on.
Magicbeanimbiber@reddit
Because his psycho ramblings on twitter are pure market manipulation tactics. He’s not going to nuke an entire country. It makes sense once you realize him and his buddies can make generational wealth from a few trades and a single tweet. Israel also essentially owns both parties through AIPAC money.
Dragoncat_3_4@reddit
Precisely why people are worried the he will actually nbomb the entire country
5Dprairiedog@reddit
I'm also thinking that Israel has blackmail on Trump and he's their bitch right now.
roytay@reddit
fearless-jones@reddit
But consider: He's dying and wants us all to go with him? Maybe. I wouldn’t put it past him at all.
itsboringhowwrongur@reddit
What’s in it for them?
If JD Pence becomes president now, he has to be the one that gives Iran concessions to end this war. He’d be fucked come 2028. He was supposed to get an easy incumbent advantage out of this gig god dammit!
Even more than that, the US has never removed a sitting president, ever. Laws this long between conception and execution are very hard to use. Like trying to restart an engine that’s rusted together. So if you’re going to try and hold your breath for impeachment or the 25th, make sure to rip the bong first.
pagerussell@reddit
He doesn't have to give concessions to Iran. He can just... stop bombing them.
He can literally say that was my crazy predecessor and we are getting back to business as usual.
itsboringhowwrongur@reddit
No he can’t. Taco taco blah blah blah. He can’t just leave this like he abandons his wives. He made Iran stronger by giving them the strait, we’re locked in homie. It’s total war or US gives concessions to Iran.
BayouGal@reddit
The Cabinet has to instigate the 25th. No way that happens with the bunch of ass lickers he put in there.
kexpi@reddit
JFK was removed.
NoLobster7957@reddit
Not so /s for me
kexpi@reddit
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get banned.
NoLobster7957@reddit
I mean, if we get dropped into WW3 tonight, fuck it, they can ban me. I'm not taking it back.
kexpi@reddit
But then how are we going to get our daily digest of bad news?
itsboringhowwrongur@reddit
You can read Reddit without an account by using a browser and replacing “www” with “old”:
old.reddit.com/r/collapse
wilson1474@reddit
I've seen photos of emails people have sent i to their representatives and calling for impeachment,
All replies are canned and saw basically trump won the election and has the power to do as he wishes.
All these people are complete losers.
Susanoos_Wife@reddit
JD Vance would be worse since unlike Trump, he can legally run again for another term.
kexpi@reddit
He doesn't have the charisma, nor power, nor compromise.
bifkintickler@reddit
Trump has the charisma of a pubic louse
Susanoos_Wife@reddit
Fair, but let's face it, Trump voters won't care about that, all they care about is owning the libs.
SemperMementoMori@reddit
They won't show up. They're broken people. Any serious defense against them has to face this fact. They need to be demoralized and discouraged and the answer was always redirecting them BACK to MAGA whenever they get uncomfortable. They're twisting in the wind now between Epstein and Iran, I see it every day.
roytay@reddit
I understand the arguments that JD could be worse than Trump. But I'm so tired of Trump, that I'm ready to find out.
mikerbt@reddit
I’ve heard enough of this. He cannot be worse than this ending the world brinksmanship.
SovietNato@reddit
He's been impeached twice.
BayouGal@reddit
Money.
Ethereal2856@reddit
Total Accelerationist Victory
United-Hyena-164@reddit
I'm so fucking mad that it has gotten to this point. I did everything I was supposed to do in this rotten system to try to stop this. Donated, wrote letters, made calls, drove people to the polls, all that shit. And here we are. At the end. I cannot fucking believe that this is how it ends.
INeedChocolateMilk@reddit
Why doesn't any the greatest democracy in the world have any sort of system in place to prevent the most undemocratic thing to happen in her government? Seems to me that democracy has died in the US and someone should liberate her people.
The_Ghost_Who_Walks@reddit
Are you talking about like checks and balances — which got completely ignored & abandoned by the Republican Party that got majority power and enabled for all of this to happen? Or the Second Amendment — which he doesn’t have to worry about because he only ever goes to where where he’s surrounded by his true believers & sycophants, and none of them are going to become an American “Kingslayer” Jaime Lannister?
KerouacsGirlfriend@reddit
We were too busy believing we were great to look under the hood and see it was all tied together with twine and good manners.
Witty_Shape3015@reddit
Can someone explain why the entire internet is talking about how he’s jumping to nuclear? Why would he go from escalating to “bombing all power plants and bridges” to now dropping multiple nuclear weapons without directly specifying it?
I understand Trump is incompetent and evil but it just seems like a leap on logic with no foundation. The things he does make sense in his own worldview even if they aren’t smart/morally right but this feels like a stretch
ChesterNorris@reddit
"a whole civilization" is the key phrase here. You can't destroy a civilization by just bombing bridges. The implication is that he's going to use heavier weapons, namely nuclear, and wipe out the population as well.
Witty_Shape3015@reddit
i mean i think he’s just someone who uses colorful language. you could make the argument that it means nukes but you’d have to retroactively explain all the times he was hyperbolic and why it didn’t apply then but it does apply to this one sentence
ChesterNorris@reddit
I think you've hit upon the problem. One person's "colorful language" is another person's "nuclear war".
If you're in a bar fight and someone says "I'm gonna kill you!", is that serious or just colorful?
Interestingllc@reddit
Language sets the standard for many things, for a leader of an entire nation to speak in such terms is genuinely insane and will be remembered forever.
Witty_Shape3015@reddit
no, of course i completely agree. i’m not justifying the language AT ALL. I just don’t think there’s a precedent for taking him by his word
hevnztrash@reddit
stop him before he launches the nukes, ho-ly fuck.
IRockIntoMordor@reddit
"Bored of Peace" indeed
StuartJJones@reddit
Only because he misspelled ‘bored’
5Dprairiedog@reddit
~~Bored of Peace~~ Board of Peas and it refers to the size of his brain.
PhoenixAsh7117@reddit
I’m serious it’s like the FIFA Peace Prize doesn’t even matter these days
firekeeper23@reddit
Sponsored by Smith and Wesson and the people who brought you C4 explosives.
Stufilover69@reddit
After he didn't get his Nobel prize he doesn't feel obliged to think of peace (real quote)
maltedbacon@reddit
Can you imagine if they'd given it to him and then he pulled these overt threats of genocidal war?
jaqian@reddit
Genocide before dinner, such a lovely person.
Due-Dot6450@reddit
Can someone made him to log out of this game, ffs!?
getridofwires@reddit
I'd start with at least a server-wide mute, but I agree he needs to be banned from this game. Current game mods appear asleep at the wheel though.
firekeeper23@reddit
There's a wheel???!!!?
lizardtrench@reddit
There's a spinning circular thing being impacted by feces, redistributing it outward and in all directions, covering everything, maybe that counts?
firekeeper23@reddit
Ahhh... more spatter than trickle down economics.
kstakka@reddit
Coup and dictatorship before the mid terms
drunkobaggins@reddit
And for the Mad King, may I recommend a Haldol blow dart?
canucksrule1@reddit
This is like the mad king in game of thrones shit!
LowOne11@reddit
History has shown, that those who live closest to the truth of Humanity and it’s survival, Universally, Worldwide, are often hated (colonialized, killed, geno****) by those who wish or have an unearthly desire to control others for no reason other than fear of truth and failure to continue to have the extreme, EXTREME comforts of being “master” or God or demigod. They are those who truly, personally, suffer from certain inferiority complex’s. The greatest fear is to be seen inferior. Add into that psychological issues otherwise. Add into that certain religion and cult-like behavior. The US is currently controlled by those fearing for their own lives and lineage, and not one actual Citizen OF THE United States, d they actually care about save for the themselves and their rich “friends”. Not even their pleb supporters. So. WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA!!!
Any_Leg_1998@reddit
That orange pedo is going to launch a nuke.
Big-Yesterday586@reddit
Yay/s
Time to go stick my head in the sand so I can function at a basic level
1tiredman@reddit
Coup this bastard immediately. Storm the Whitehouse and apprehend him and then put him on trial
CannyGardener@reddit
There was a post a few minutes ago where it displayed his actual Truth post. Why was that deleted?? there were almost 100 comments in there...much better convo than this chain.
Kazaryn@reddit
Censorship at it's finest.
CannyGardener@reddit
Just saw the same thing pop up and get killed in the r/prepperintel board as well, and then the one about Russia threatening to Nuke Ukraine in 24-48 hours was removed as well. Jesus fucking christ.
smackson@reddit
The what now?
CannyGardener@reddit
Quick google returned: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2191176/russia-issues-chilling-threat-nuke
gerald_gales@reddit
Don't click on that link, folks. The Daily Express is an extreme right-wing UK tabloid which publishes sensationalist, inaccurate, clickbait headlines and engages in hateful, often racist, narratives against minorities, the disabled, the powerless and the poor.
TicklishViking@reddit
Russia makes these threats all the time. The thing is we know they don't mean it because of MAD and the fact that Putin is not insane, he's just an asshole.
Trump, on the other hand, is actually insane and I firmly believe he will use nukes eventually.
annehboo@reddit
Why would they remove the posts??
CannyGardener@reddit
I honestly can't figure it out. Everything looked like it had submission statements and whatnot. I mean, fine, censorship, but...to what end??
annehboo@reddit
The only thing I can think of is that the sources in those posts were X or TikTok which would warrant a removal in my opinion, those platforms spread so much bullshit.
CannyGardener@reddit
Was literally a screenshot of a Truth Social post from the president on the one. The other was a post from a news agency. Neither X or TikTok =\
annehboo@reddit
welp, that’s not good. I miss the old internet 🥲
ToBeFaaaiiiirrrrr@reddit
That post was auto-removed since the OP did not include a submission statement within 30 minutes of posting, which is a violation of Rule 10 of r/collapse.
CannyGardener@reddit
Man...I wish there was some sort of exception for pressing issues or good conversation being had. Nothing crazy, just kind of a common sense thing. So if I make the same post and provide a submission statement it will stick?
ToBeFaaaiiiirrrrr@reddit
If you had made the post when they did originally and included a good submission statement, the post should have stayed up. Posting it now might be considered a duplicate post (Rule 8) since this current post covers the same topic and was posted earlier.
gmuslera@reddit
"A whole civilization will die tonight". He is talking about our one.
i_have_chosen_a_name@reddit
The American civilization has already died but it's corpse is still twitching.
orangedimension@reddit
Yeah that's the plot twist
kexpi@reddit
Followed by the collapse of the Trump family.
friendtoallkitties@reddit
I think he was talking about the U.S.
Actually I expect him to do more bombing to save face, but nothing like the apocalyptic attack he is blabbing about.
Euphoric-Canary-7473@reddit
I invite him to try, for if he doesn't do it then he becomes an exponentially bigger laughing stock than he was before; and if he does, then we see where the line is drawn, making future decisions for the rest of the nations and peoples very easy to ascertain.
Unique_Tap_8730@reddit
Even if this another TACO tuesday it shows he has to be more and more extreme to get the same effect. Eventually he will actually do something that destroys the world just to make a buck and feel strong. He has removed anyone who could tell him no, GOP backs him blindly, Dems can do nothing, the supreme court is his shoeshiner and the american media has been completely captured by MAGA billionaires.
CzIitz@reddit
The beans and the rice go in the cellar
In the cellar
In the cellar
The beans and the rice go in the cellar
Cuz this country's falling down
LandoKim@reddit
He doesn’t see Iranians as people. He is a fucking ghoul and proof that natural selection failed us by not doing its job when it comes to people without empathy.
PennysWorthOfTea@reddit
He doesn’t see ~~Iranians~~ other people as people
LandoKim@reddit
🎯🎯🎯
Unlikely-Table-615@reddit
If he is allowed to release a nuke, then we are all finished. Millions will die because he is a moron. And the US is full of sycophants.
combatcrew141@reddit
Perhaps he means the U.S. Our civilization has been damaged by this bunch.
Pumpkin_Pie@reddit
What a stupid jackassed corner to back us all into
cr0ft@reddit
Has anyone pointed out to him that he's talking about a crime against humanity the likes of which we haven't seen since the Holocaust? Just asking.
kmm198700@reddit
Call your reps and demand they impeach Trump’s fucking lunatic ass
duinius_maximus@reddit
When he says a whole civilization, I take that to mean all of human civilization in the sense that if we nuke Iran, we’re all done for.
Hinaloth@reddit
Imagine trying to erase the Persians from history. They left marks on humanity that will survive any mention of the "United States", let alone this walking cadaver's obituary.
beerinapaperbag@reddit
He's talking about the USA.
OhioIsRed@reddit
Remember speak softly and carry a big stick? I miss when we had respectable people in the government and just in general.
I know some of those people were gigantic, racist, pieces of shit.
FuklzTheDrnkClwn@reddit
Good thing Kamala didn’t win. Otherwise we’d be in new wars and Palestine would be in danger.
Locoman7@reddit
Is it 8pm eastern tonight ?
Slow_Concern_9882@reddit
Yes eastern time.
Locoman7@reddit
that's 6pm my local time so that's pretty soon!
ArabellasCursed33@reddit
That's what I've been asking is it their time or our time?
Striking-Access-236@reddit
Every threat by Trump is a confession...bye bye civilised America.
kent18328@reddit
Be careful what you wish for.
tehdamonkey@reddit
What is polymarket giving for an old fashioned nuking?
palebot@reddit
Any politician not actively trying to speak out to remove him is culpable. I don’t care what party they represent.
jms21y@reddit
and the post was ended with "god bless the great people of iran"
like bro, wtf
HardNut420@reddit
Please somebody nuke America out of existence🙏
StarshipSausage@reddit
I hope he tacos, but shit I’m am worried
DrKeepitreal@reddit
Who is the territorist here?
old-legs-623@reddit
World entering "road rage" phase of grief and denial, led by the most active perp nations?
nath1as@reddit
very orphic
mmps1@reddit
From day one the only way this was going to end was a nukin.
This is a cursed timeline, the fuck did we end up in a shite version of escape for New York? Shameful.
KopiteTheScot@reddit
There'll still be people defending him, we need to make sure these people never forget what they supported
snackerooryan@reddit
The pdf file is unhinged
MonsterTruckCarpool@reddit
If he means the USA then he’s right
No_Detail2408@reddit
FIFA Peace Prize winner btw
Sufficient-Bid1279@reddit
If there is anytime we need the liens to come save us, it’s now. V
tupikp@reddit
Nero or Caligula mad level?
Purple_Puffer@reddit
hatter level.
UncleBaguette@reddit
Sheogorath mad level. Altho uncle Sheo had at least a taste in style
Susanoos_Wife@reddit
It's not just going to be one civilization, that's just what he wants you to think.
Spiritual-End7310@reddit
This has to stop