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AtomicMonkeyTheFirst@reddit

In that recent Louis Theoux documentary literally all of the guys he interveiwed were raised by single mothers. I would guess that most of the guys who subscribe to those guys are as well.

Before you start talking about toxic masculinity you might want to consider what's really driving it.

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Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit

the solution to sexism is traditional gender roles

Poetic

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AtomicMonkeyTheFirst@reddit

And that is exactly the kond of self absorbed, entitled attitude which guarantees nothing will change.

Do you want me to get the big long list of all the ways single parent families have been proven to damage children?

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I think that guy's idea is to encourage more two parent households, which can probably be gay, straight or anywhere in between--or have any type of relationship dynamic they want. Regardless the kid needs to have another role model who's close by and easily accessible, imo.

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MartyMcBlart@reddit

You’re all special ed.

Firstly - gov took away all teacher power by making it impossible for teachers to do anything of note (expelling students LITERALLY costs the school money)

Secondly - parents are fat and lazy and all bad behaviour is pushed back on teachers - either you get “but he not like this at home?” Or you get “isn’t it your job to make them normal?” Or WORSE “I don’t care how he behaves just get his grades”

Thirdly - the algorithm is so geeked now that these kick streamers and Instagram reel racists are LITERALLY the only things these kids consume. They get their news from Free.England.From.Jeets and so their entire worldview is shaped by either Nasdeep from Pakistan, Yeshua from Israel or Manny from the Philippines.

Yes - as a male teacher I know there aren’t that many of us, but we’re feeling it too. Yes - some teachers can be uppity but blame the trusts and the government for setting unrealistic expectations on teachers

But this shit is happening because the internet is literally poisoning our kids with AI slop and fake news and our parents are too fat and lazy to deal with it properly - it’s not our job to make your kid normal. That’s literally YOUR job as a parent.

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stop_talking_you@reddit

there are only like 2 out of 30 kids white nowadays

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Arcane_Monkey@reddit

I really feel like more male teachers would be the solution here.

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chanbr@reddit

Yeah there's just not a lot of male teachers and 'positive masculinity' male role models sadly.

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peppermintaltiod@reddit

There's never really been a lot of male teachers.

It used to be that if you didn't have a good male authority figure at home you still had the priest/pastor at church, a coach, or a scout master.

But boys don't really do sports at anywhere near the numbers they used to, hardly anyone goes to church, and boy scouts has been bleeding since the 90s.

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joe_m107@reddit

They’re just Scouts now. Turns out it’s not just for boys anymore.

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lemonprincess23@reddit

Meanwhile the Girl Scouts is still only for girls, it’s odd

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peppermintaltiod@reddit

You can kind of look at it as a business decision.

The boy scouts saw a big drop after the molestation scandal and after the mormons pulled out and started their own group about 10 years ago.

The GSA on the other hand has been loosing numbers to more conservative, and outdoorsy, alternatives like american heritage girls, Frontier girls, and pathfinders.

Historically the GSA was more progressive than the BSA so when they started to massive membership drops to more conservative groups they shifted about as close to the right as they could without alienating their core members.

The BSA responded to almost the same problem by shifting to the left in order to attract people that normally wouldn't try scouting because of the more conservative culture associated with it.

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peppermintaltiod@reddit

Yeah I heard about that. I don't think it will really change much.

When I aged out and went to venture crew, coed scouts that goes to 21 and is also run by the BSA, the group was 7 guys and 2 girls that were basically just there because they were the daughters of one of the adult leaders.

Don't get me wrong, plenty of women seem into the outdoors, they just seem to be socialized into not really expressing it or enjoying it from a distance. Once you get them out there they're just like any guy, but until then it's like you are trying to get them to break some sort of big taboo or something.

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HabaneroEyeDropes@reddit

Schools are cutting sports because “they have nothing to do with getting into college”.

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mischling2543@reddit

Good. The education budget should be spent on actual education.

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CapitalImpossible640@reddit

Where do you live? In the backwoods USA, all our local schools put most of their funds into their shitty football programs.

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FlamingTrashcans@reddit

Absolutely this. The football cult is real. Makes it hard af to get social studies jobs

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appolzmeh@reddit

What schools are cutting sports? My high school was busy cutting academics so the goyim would think sports were more important than education.

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phoncible@reddit

If true that's about the most braindead take I've ever heard.

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Stunning-Field2011@reddit

Because those type of men at the church or scout hut can’t be trusted not to rape.

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chanbr@reddit

Yeah, and that combined with demonization of all masculinity really sours boys. Then people wonder why young boys are turning to people like Tate.

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HabaneroEyeDropes@reddit

Teaching is allergic to masculine role models.

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PangLaoPo@reddit

Not really. I always thought that I would love to teach and get a job helping kids and shit. But the pay is absolute dog shit. Like you can’t get ahead on a teacher salary. So I’m in sales. Also the environment has apparently gotten so soft you can’t even discipline anyone anymore…

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HabaneroEyeDropes@reddit

You do not get it because you do not work in education, you work in sales.

Education is not some empty vessel that will allow you to live your help da kidz fantasies. It is a corrupt field full of rancid cunty people who will make hell on you if you are a guy, because they think you automatically have it better.

Example, teacher A has the personality of a toilet, so her students walk all over her. You on the other hand, assert yourself and teach the little shits a life lesson in endurance and discipline, so they give it up. Teacher A will accuse you of just having it easier because you are a guy, and every time she sees you laugh, she will go straight to HR and say that you must be doing something wrong. HR is even worse, so they will make your life hell. Same with the kids, if they hate that you gave them a consequence, they will make shit up or go online and see what they can find to fuck with you.

The shit pay conditions and the weak unions are almost directly a result of this culture and the personalities that make it (i.e. weak, envious).

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IcyPride2973@reddit

Went the same route. Deep love of history and always wanted to be a middle school-ish teacher as I didn’t want to deal with high schoolers. I felt like, at least anecdotally, my classmates were the most perceptive around 6-8th grade. I enjoy teaching people and seeing that “lightbulb” moment happen.

If you can sell a car, you can sell a lesson. Just not willing to take a $100K pay cut, but the government benefits wouldn’t be too bad.

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lookyloolookingatyou@reddit

Don't worry, the English government has paid me all of your tax dollars to solve the problem. I surveyed every woman in England and I've found the perfect "positive masculine-presenting" role model to interview for a magazine that nobody has read in fifteen years:

Lord Chadwick von Chadbrooke III: Multimillionaire globetrotting professional footballer descended from the gentry, with a spacious home in the country, a white blonde wife and children, a staff of brown housekeepers, a fleet of Aston Martins, and everything else you're not allowed to want for yourself. Nobody has ever told him "no" in his life. He somehow overcame his innate inborn misogyny and found a way to respect women and unrestricted Muslim immigration at the same time, and if you respect women and vote your borders away, you'll be just like him!

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El_Kovidente@reddit

How would you go about wasting tax payer money in the least efficient way possible? Depending on your answer we may make you head of the civil service.

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sakurako_sama@reddit

Do they actually want a solution though. Victimhood is a way of life for these people

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OkMedia3514@reddit

The alternative is so much worse, a whole generation of young men with no economic or romantic prospects. This is the type of stuff that overthrows governments.

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Lolazaurus@reddit

That is already happening and they don't care.

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JustChillin3456@reddit

I’m writing my thesis on this

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CapitalImpossible640@reddit

An 8 part rant on 4chan isn't a thesis, anon

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IcyPride2973@reddit

Dm the link when finished, would be interested to see your findings.

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Pizzasupreme00@reddit

This would fix shit almost overnight. Unfortunately some schools are downright hostile to male teachers.

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MyDogIsDaBest@reddit

Yes, the masculinity crisis is brewing because there world started to demonize it and tell boys to suppress it because it's wrong. It's like telling a cat not to hunt birds and mice because it's mean. It's instinctual. But this suppression remained, but developed into druggie degens like Andrew tate that showed that being the opposite and being a massive dick to everyone has worked for him. That's an outlet for boys to be boys, so they start listening to that shit.

You need healthy outlets for this and you took them away and are now confused why telling boys that they're evil for so long has made "me own fookin son" follow the people who tell them that their feelings aren't wrong or evil.

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rumSaint@reddit

Shocking.

Be yookay
Make teacher profession 90% female
Shit on boys and blame everything on toxic masculinity
Import people from cultures that hate wahmen
...
No profit

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appolzmeh@reddit

No no the small hats are making ridiculous returns off this

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lemonprincess23@reddit

They’re always the only real winners for anything

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TurboAssRipper@reddit

In Scotland currently there are a few schools where the students made AI porn of the female teachers, so the teachers involved the union and went on long term stress leave

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M4gikarp@reddit

That’s when you pull a reverse uno and make Ai porn of the students

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Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit

In the Yookay that will get you ten minutes community service and an executive job at the BBC.

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stinkyjim88@reddit

This is down to the yookay people coming from more conservative countries

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Autisticus@reddit

Yeah, what are the names of the offending students? I doubt its michael, james, or matthew

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WiredUpBrainJuice@reddit

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Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit

It wasn't supposed to be subtle to someone of normal cognitive abilities.

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JustChillin3456@reddit

Can confirm

I work in schools and young boys are punished more often / left behind because female teachers literally have no idea how To work with them

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MartyMcBlart@reddit

Kids aren’t just being kids though, they’re getting away with shit because parents and the government just don’t care and expect us to make something out of nothing

I get shamed regularly by higher ups for treating students like human beings because they REQUIRE you to use the behaviour system so they can throw their hands up to parents and be like “see? Don’t complain about us we did all we could”

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lookyloolookingatyou@reddit

Oh man, I always love reading these comments from teachers about parents not backing them up.

The reason this is happening is because we all remember our teachers being manipulated by the worst pieces of shit in the class and letting them off the hook because “they showed genuine remorse” with some fake-ass Disney Channel puppy dog eyes, whereas the kids who waited silently for the authority figure to decide the consequences for their mistakes got their weekend ruined with a phone call home for not being a dishonest little suck up.

Maybe you’re the one teacher in a million who always knows when they’re being fooled, but if all cops are bastards then please tell me more about your stupid life choice.

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JustChillin3456@reddit

Exactly the point I made in class. The only one to be blamed are the parents (my lib proffers reluctantly agreed)

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Lolazaurus@reddit

if you don’t have that than you’re not cut out to do arguably one of the easiest jobs

Any teacher worth their salt is putting in a shitload of work to make lesson plans or activities that aren't agonizingly boring for the kids. It also takes learning all of your kids personalities and quirks as well as attempting to form at least some relationship with their parents in order to properly teach them.

Not only do you need to do all that, but you have to deal with administration and the school system fucking you over and making the stupidest out of touch decisions. Then there's always nightmare children and their failure parents that you somehow have to deal with. All while payed pennies on the dollar.

Next year is an entirely new set of kids, and it all starts over again with kids that have entirely different needs.

Teaching is a thankless nightmare job. The only people who teach really do love working with kids, or become bitter and quickly hate their job. Nobody teaches because it's an easy job. Especially in America, and especially post covid.

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wordjedi@reddit

Easiest degree program too. People who are barely able to do college level work can still get teaching degrees

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JustChillin3456@reddit

Can confirm, chat GPT has made this degree a breeze and I’m a genuine regard

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lapideous@reddit

You'd think that like 95% of teaching teachers how to teach would be child psychology and how to effectively manipulate them into learning.

What the fuck else are they learning in college, 4th grade math?

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JustChillin3456@reddit

Both. Had to retake 1-6th math (I was the only guy in class, I’d be the first to finish the tests)

And child psychology which is more like understanding developmental stages and hierarchy of needs or when to know if a child is being abused or neglected

Building relationships with children and not being offended when they insult you is something that needs to be already ingrained in you

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Hm, our strategy of relentlessly shaming men seems to be backfiring, clearly the solution is to shame men even harder!

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Trick-Caramel-6156@reddit

Well that's what hapoend when you deny man pussy for too long.