Simple Questions - April 07, 2026

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FreSchDude@reddit

Looking for a budget GPU under 300. Found a 9060XT, 8gb VRAM within budget. Worth taking that over the B580 with 12gb vram?

Heaviest game expected is Return to Moria and flight simulator, 1080p.

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If the 9060xt 8gb and b580 are the same price, then I'd go with the 9060xt. If the b580 is significantly cheaper, it could be the better call, as it's about 20% less powerful than a 9060xt but will have more VRAM.

That said, the 12gb of VRAM on the b580 could mean it holds its value better, but it doesn't sound like the games you play are likely to need more than 8gb, especially not at 1080p resolution. And even if they do, you can just bump the texture quality setting down a notch.

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FreSchDude@reddit

Yeah was thinking that. Benchmarks show the 9060xt getting 20fps more consistently at even 1440p, without vram issues. Usually the price is a good 80 euros more but it's on discount and is quite a bit cheaper than the b580, around 20 euro less, hence why I'm tempted to get it.

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Vloxalion@reddit

you might be able to find a 3080 under 300. otherwise 2080ti/3070 or 6700xt/6750xt are more towards 200-250 and offer similar/better performance than the 8gb version of 9060xt.

relative strength of gpus gpu content creation charts. this chart made 6 months earlier but has more 40/30 series, aaa games charts within latest gpu review, also here's bf6 scaling. current gen non-highest end cards and non highest cpu fps/esports games charts they all would give more performance than they show due to driver updates since they were made, but they test with (9800x3d/9950x3d) to bring out as much capability from them as possible (just 9600x in esports one though), at 1440p/4k the cpu doesn't have as much of an impact, and these are tested at usually very high/max graphics settings so lowering to high would really increase the framerate. 8gb version not in charts except for fps/esports one,

install nvidia drivers with nvcleanstall. use ddu before installing drivers for new card even when going nvidia to nvidia or amd to amd.

undervolt+overclock for more performance at same/less power (nvidia) - vid comments have good info, guide methodology applies to other nvidia gpus. ancientgameplays and imwateringpsus have guides for amd.

you can bring 40/50 series features to the 30 series with https://github.com/xHybred/NvidiaProfileInspectorRevamped/releases , this is ancientgameplays' recent vid on the non-fork of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L1OpYvaTxM

assuming you have am4 with that price level of gpu?

ddr4 oc guide

update your mobo bios.

update chipset drivers from amd website. https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/

excellent script for windows debloating / telemetry + ai removal / update disruption pausing <-highly recommend. run after feature updates because microsoft adds back in the ai and other junk

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CertifiedDiplodocus@reddit

Ryzen 5 9600x, 7600x or 7600? 16GB. The first is ~195€, the other two both ~165€. (GPU will be RX 9600XT)

What exactly is the difference between the latter two? I know the -x model is "overclocked out of the box", but dont know what that actually means for performance and energy efficiency.

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Vloxalion@reddit

The 7600x has higher default power/speed and would have better general silicon quality from the binning process. The 7600 comes with a cooler sufficient for it. How's the price on 7500f though? 100-130€? aliexpress if not in retail, seeing it for 112 in belgium/poland, not germany? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGbW7orZS-A for cpu variation explaination

Imo the real question is 9600x vs 7500f should the pricing on that be low, zen5 vs zen4. This has all 4 mentioned here in the charts, defaults. With a weaker gpu like that, it may not make very much difference except in things like shader compilation https://www.techspot.com/review/3052-amd-ryzen-7500f-vs-intel-core-i5-12400f/

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CertifiedDiplodocus@reddit

better general silicon quality

That sounds significant.

With a weaker gpu like that

9060 XT is considered a weak GPU?

7500f is 147€ in Spain (so 20€ cheaper than the 7600x, and 50€ cheaper than the 9600x). It may be worth considering, I suppose - I notice BG3 had a pretty heavy drop, which isn't surprising, but it seems to do decently with the others. Had heard it described as a lower-end CPU, though.

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Vloxalion@reddit

better silicon quality allows higher clocks, which is in part why the defaults on 7600x are higher - its why there's product segmentation. 7500f is a 7600 that didn't make the cut to be a 7600 and/or whose igpu was defective so it got disabled, manual oc varies from about 5ghz to 5.3ghz depending on cpu, mine does 5.1 before requiring a lot more power for higher, ancientgameplays' 7500f cutoff is 5.25 for example.

it is weak compared to the 5090 that site used in the testing. additionally, its also weak compared to a used 3080/4070, and similar enough performance to a 3070/2080ti 6700xt/6750xt when not vram limited. uses less power, more vram, and has fsr4 though. see my reply to freschdude in this thread for more info on what i mean. its the cheapest high vram current gen card however.

it depends for cpu on how long you plan on keeping it before upgrading i suppose. 9600x would have a warranty because its not oem as well in case you have an asrock or lesser extent asus mobo? could get it and not think about it any more till like, 11600x3d or something has been out for a while.

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CertifiedDiplodocus@reddit

Thanks for the detailed response, very helpful.

I tend to hang on to things until they really start showing their age (current laptop is 10yo), so might keep the CPU for a while, but this is my first ever build so who knows. Will definitely upgrade RAM and graphics before I touch the CPU, though.

This is the build: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/user/EmeraldBoa/saved/tpjCFT

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Vloxalion@reddit

either 7500f or 9600x

better deal on single tower, single tower 2fans, dual tower, 240mm aio, then 360mm aio more expensive than one you picked. all will cool those 100w or less cpus very well.

board options

dual channel is pretty important, a single 32gb dimm is ok due to dual rank offsetting the performance penalty somewhat, but for lower capacities you'd really need two, 2x8gb kits are 'half rank' so you'd need two kits of them to get full performance (due to dual rank with 4x8 would slightly exceed single rank 2x16). i see 2x16gb kits on ebay es for 200-300 euro, just don't get one rated for 5200 or 4800, those are micron's initial dies which were terrible in comparison to everything else. like i see this https://www.ebay.es/itm/287258788316? rgb hynix kit or wait that's from usa i puzzle out what the spanish means from latin roots... looks like 250-350 in spain or eu? still cheaper than new for sure that one from usa is 430euro from pcomponentes here's some ddr5 information collation to expand more on ram

990 pro is pretty expensive. for games its not worth the price, and for production well for a little bit more there's t710 so not worth it there too. dram isn't important for games. p510 is a little better than the 990 pro in almost every metric but power and sustained writes for a lot cheaper, there's a couple dramless gen4 ones in there, t500 is similar perf gen4 and also dram, t705/t710 are better drives. somewhat cheaper used, seeing stuff go for 150-250 but the lower cost ones are qlc.

better models of 9060xt16gb for cheaper(gigabyte not great gpus this gen, thermal gel that can leak instead of ptm7950 for one reason), with savings of rest of build(if not change your ram choice) you could perhaps go xfx 9070 which would be a much better gpu. 4070 seems to be around the price of 9060xt.

dunno if you had that case or not or just liked the looks, but picked a couple excellent alternatives for cheaper

cheaper good a-tier psus of higher capacity, or 750w version of 13 m for 5 euro more.

dunno if you have that monitor or not (from external monitor of laptop?) but i see 1080p 24'' ips 180hz+ for 90euro, 24'' 1440p 240hz ips for 170, and the excellent 24'' 1080p 300hz ips mini-led 25g64 for 180 from amazon/pccomponentes

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/6FWkdq

check out my comment history for a whole bunch of relevant info can't spend the additional time to paste it here and tailor to you

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CertifiedDiplodocus@reddit

oh, thank you! need to go to sleep/pass out but will read properly tomorrow.

(don't have monitor, and it just vanished from stock in all of 1 day so point is moot anyway)

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Turnabo@reddit

7600 comes with a CPU fan, 7600x does not. This does not mean every model chip have a x and non x version. There are also other differences.

There is comparison on their website, https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors.html

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CertifiedDiplodocus@reddit

Thanks. I knew about the fan, but AFAIK the advice is "buy your own, it's terrible" lmao

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Specific_Frame8537@reddit

Twice now since I've bought a 5070TI have my monitors flashed off and cycled through the inputs, could this be a bad cable issue?

The monitors are AOC 24G2 24, and I'm connected to the gpu with Display Port cables.

Nothing on the actual computer changed, but it happens to both monitors at the same time.

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Vloxalion@reddit

I heard something with the 50 series needed a mobo bios update to solve some problem that sounds like that, is it up to date?

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Specific_Frame8537@reddit

I haven't updated my bios at all since I built the PC and frankly I'm scared to. 😂

I know next to nothing about this stuff.

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Vloxalion@reddit

There's lots of vids about how to do it. If you have intel 13th/14th gen you MUST update the bios to prevent further damage to your cpu. If am5 cpu almost all boards have a bios flashback button, am4 is rare so you'd need to do it from within bios.

First, find your exact model of motherboard including revision. Then go to its support page on manufacturer's website, should be under bios/driver/firmware section. Choose the latest non-beta bios, or if the latest beta has been out for 3+ months the latest beta bios. Follow instructions if there are any to rename the bios file. Put it on a fat32 formatted usb flash drive. If using windows MAKE SURE BITLOCKER IS OFF AND YOUR DRIVES HAVE UNENCRYPTED or write down your key. Turn off pc and put it in a specific usb port on the mobo according to your mobo's manual. If you have bios flashback button, press it and wait for it to finish. If not boot pc and enter bios, use its bios flash functionality. Do not lose power during flashing. Once finished, boot pc (takes longer due to ram retraining, ddr5 takes longer than ddr4) and enter bios again, either enable xmp/expo/docp or manually overclock your ram, do your other bios settings, save&exit, it'll train ram again with new parameters then boot up your os. Your mobo manual/website should have information on how to do all this.

if am4/am5 also update your chipset drivers, amd website on the support page

see reply to freschdude's question in this comment for a lot of gpu information.

if there's failure to flash and don't have the bios flashback button, you'll need a programmer device to attach to the chip on your mobo and flash it externally, i think $25 or less for a ch341a that doesn't put 5v through the 3.3v stuff (v1.7 or mod/solder an earlier cheaper black pcb one) (or other similar programmer) and a soic8 clip.

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Specific_Frame8537@reddit

All that sounds way over my head honestly.

I tried enabling XMP once and my PC wouldn't post. 😂

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Vloxalion@reddit

Can't go over and do it myself man, help people help themselves and all that. Anyone you know whos tech savvy to ask for assistance in person?

Not posting once enabling xmp... not waiting for ram training anywhere from 30sec to 25min depending, an intel non-K cpu and/or H mobo, or defective ram are possible?

Try using ddu then installing drivers via nvcleanstall for something less complicated? Might help but really think its a bios before the 50-series fix.

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Specific_Frame8537@reddit

If after enabling XMP I was supposed to wait for ram to retrain, that might've been what happened but I didn't know.

I just reset the cmos to get back to a working pc. 😅

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Alternative_Pace9638@reddit

Should I just change my GPU/CPU should I change my entire system for a meaningful upgrade? I've got a 1440p monitor

I've got the MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard. With a amd 5600xt and ryzen 3 3300x and just 16gb of DDR4 RAM

Primarily play single player.

Any help is appreciated! Ideally I'd like to just plug and play but if I need to upgrade the whole system (if the price is right) I will

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Hawk7117@reddit

you could keep your motherboard and ram by getting something like the 5600x/5800xt (The CPUs, not GPUs. Gotta love AMDs naming scheme).

Either of those would keep your AM4 system running awhile longer but after that upgrade there is really nothing past that to upgrade to. Those run about $160 and $200 respectively and should buy you another 3-5 years or so. I would also advise an additional matching 16gb ram kit as well, that will also help in several modern games too.

For the GPU there are dozens of options that are faster, but without knowing a budget or PSU model/wattage its really hard to recommend anything.

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Alternative_Pace9638@reddit

Thank you very much. I have a Cooler Master 750W PSU. And my budget is kind of around 400 USD if I can keep the same motherboard, which I assume saves me a couple hundred?

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Vloxalion@reddit

none of cm's 750w models are replace-it-now ones except elite nex 230v so you should be alright there since you're in the us.

aliexpress? they often have sales/coupons, 5500x3d can be had for around 150 during them, seeing 175 cheapest reputable one now... 5600/x and 5700x go for 100-140 and 150-175 respectively on ebay. don't get 5500 or 5700 they perform almost exactly like 3600/3800x due to half the cache they have offsetting their next generation architecture advantage.

2x8gb ram goes for about 60-80 and 2x16 for 120-160 on ebay. another 2x8 with matching ics would make it dual rank if they are single rank dimms for an effective 200-400mt/s speed increase but would be difficult to do since even the same model can use different ics under the heatspreader. if by 16gb you have just a single stick, get a kit for dual channel instead its so much better especially on ryzen.

ebay again, a 3080 (10gb) for 280-330 does better than a 5060ti16gb, and 2080ti (11gb vram) and 3070 (8gb) go for about 250 those two have basically the same performance as each other so leaning 2080ti betweem them for the extra vram, you need it more at 1440p, 8gb doesn't cut it.

fbmarketplace and r/hardwareswap may have all these for cheaper except perhaps 5500x3d.

recoup some cost to effectively raise your budget by selling the old parts afterwords. could keep the gpu as a 2nd gpu dedicated to optiscalar/losslessscaling? let's say 5600 plus 3080 minus 3300x(pretty rare actually, so almost as much as a 3600 despite 2 less cores) minus 5600xt... 130+330-50-110=300, could -60 your ram and +130 a 2x16 kit if you don't want to hunt for matching ics so roughly 370 for a pretty great upgrade?

update your mobo bios and chipset drivers.

see my comment a little bit ago for lots more info https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1sefzzf/comment/oesz2nz/

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Alternative_Pace9638@reddit

Wow thank you!

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ZeroPaladn@reddit

Like the other comment said, a new CPU would get you into a good spot for modern titles. While the 5600/5800XT is available at retail brand new you can see if you can save some money with a used chip. 5700X, 5800X should be able to be found for cheaper than the 5800XT which will give you more wiggle room for a GPU.

Speaking of, another place where used helps you save money. You can swing a 3060Ti/3070 used with your remaining budget and would nearly double your GPU power on top of having access to the wonderful DLSS upscaler.

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Alternative_Pace9638@reddit

Thank you. Would you recommend the 9060xt over the 3060ti or 3070?

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ZeroPaladn@reddit

If you're adamant on buying new the 9060XT 8GB and the 5060 aren't bad grabs but you should check pricing against those used options I mentioned. If the 3070 is cheaper than both new options by a good amount then there's no reason to pursue the new GPUs IMO.

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Alternative_Pace9638@reddit

The 9060xt 16gb is available where I am. And as for the Nvidia cards I'd have to get them used. 5060 and other 5000 cards seem to be available as well. I just feel more comfortable buying retail in this case. But I guess I need to double check the best comparability if im widening the potential GPU options. Will definitely look into used in case there are sales too! Thank you again