How is substance use (alcohol, cigarettes, drugs) generally viewed in the U.S. today?
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I’ve been reading about different lifestyles and habits in the U.S., and I’m curious about how people perceive things like drinking, smoking, or drug use nowadays.
Is it mostly socially accepted, frowned upon, or does it depend a lot on the state, age group, or environment?
RevolutionaryWind249@reddit
Moderate drinking and marijuana use are pretty well accepted most places. State law varies with marijuana but it's legal in a lot of states. Cigarette smoking is somewhat looked down on but people still do it. Hard drugs are usually a hard pass for most people.
In terms of age groups I think that teenagers is obviously experiment more.
Kenneth441@reddit
Also even though cigarettes tend to be looked down upon, nicotine vapes and pouches are very popular
Lophius_Americanus@reddit
100% agree with this in general with a caveat. My wife’s friend group is rather posh and I’m basically the only person in it that’s an outish smoker (by that I mean I would never smoke while I’m at like something where kids are present at all but will step outside at a bar or restaurant when it’s only adults) but every time there’s a party and people have had a few drinks every time I step outside to have one I’ve got 5 people bumming one off me.
SassyGirl0202@reddit
Yep there’s a social smoker in me when in a group of others smokers lol
braxtel@reddit
Pouches are popular now? I don't know anyone who does that as far as I am aware, and it seems too much like dip, which I always found absolutely disgusting. And I say that as a former disgusting cigarette smoker.
No_Town_1181@reddit
Mechanically it operates like dip but there’s no tar and other gross shit so it’s more like taking one of those tiny paper restaurant salt packets to put in your mouth.
jmilred@reddit
Pouches are extremely popular by me, the tobacco free ones that do not require spitting. The appeal is they are odorless and not obvious, but still deliver the nicotine. I am sure there are a lot more people around you using them than you realize.
Feisty_Water_3164@reddit
I don’t know anyone who uses pouches but pouches have lot of front space at convenience stores which makes me assume they move a lot of them.
SassyGirl0202@reddit
Agree, but in CA we can’t even get flavored pouches, we go to NV and have to stock up.
arah91@reddit
I think a big add to this is well cigarette smoke is basically at zero especially for younger people, vaping amongst gen alpha and Gen z seem pretty high
CHICAG0AT@reddit
Cigs are back with young adults as a cool alternative to vaping and I'm not joking
Accomplished-Fun215@reddit
It's extremely regional. I used to live in Richmond, VA and people there definitely still smoke.
ArtDecoNewYork@reddit
Even in NYC I find it to be pretty common
AdmiralMoonshine@reddit
Whats your definition of hard drugs? I feel like it doesn’t take straying too far off the mainstream to discover things like mushrooms, mdma, acid, and cocaine are not only accepted, but surprisingly normal.
Feisty_Water_3164@reddit
Mushrooms are pretty normal in my circle
Pernicious_Possum@reddit
For real. I think heroin (and friends), and meth are really the only things considered “hard” anymore. Hallucinogenics and blow just aren’t looked at as serious drugs anymore. Crack is a different story. Not a lot of casual crack smokers
just_pudge_it@reddit
I agree with this one. Those are what I would consider hard drugs
Notansfwprofile@reddit
MDMA and coke are definitely hard drugs. If you have a shred of the addictive personality traits it will pull you in pretty hard. Hopefully a sense of self preservation overcomes it. It’s popular because it’s fun, and it’s so fun it can easily ruin your fucking life.
I would consider acid and shrooms as hard in higher doses because of how profound the effects are, but not life ruining addictive hardly at all. People who microdose everyday need to have a serious conversation with themselves though.
AdmiralMoonshine@reddit
For sure for sure, I was speaking more on their acceptability, not perhaps how they are actually classified. If I was at a party and saw someone doing MDMA or coke I wouldn’t think twice. If I was at a party and saw someone shooting heroin or smoking meth I would leave immediately. To me they are an entirely different category.
Notansfwprofile@reddit
Fair enough, I knew plenty of potheads who would leave a party if people started doing blow though, or at least started questioning what type of circle they were running in. Though things don’t typically get that out of hand when sharing blow with people, since you got to shove about 50 dollars of it up your nose to really start getting the obvious crackhead vibes.
AdmiralMoonshine@reddit
Yeah, with blow the wheels don’t really start to come off the party until about 4 or 5 in the morning. As long as you leave before then you’re not gonna see anything crazy.
mooshinformation@reddit
I think for the "mainstream" weed is barely accepted and anything else is a different category. I do think quite a lot of ppl understand that psychadellics are not addictive though, but they might view ppl who do them as woowoo.
AdmiralMoonshine@reddit
That’s what I’m saying. Hell even my dad and stepmom are out there doing the occasional edible, but I don’t think they’d touch a psychedelic. A couple of my uncles though…
mooshinformation@reddit
It's crazy how much its changed recently. I have a cousin who got arrested for growing weed in his closet in highschool and it was a big secret. He started a legal business growing it a few years ago and his parents were proud of him. His wife divorced him, took the business and now the whole family agrees, he's being "resourceful" doing it "off the books".
catbert107@reddit
This was my first thought. In addition to the drugs you mentioned, as booze & blow have gotten less popular recently, ketamine has exploded in popularity since COVID
AdmiralMoonshine@reddit
I feel like ketamine had a brief pop post-Covid, but I find far fewer people have done it than the other four mentioned. That being said, pre-Covid it would have been very hard to find, now it would not be.
catbert107@reddit
For sure, it's nowhere near as socially accepted as any of the others mentioned. It still carries too much of a social stigma with it. I find that it is far more manageable and recoverable than MDMA, though.
Especially as it becomes more acceptable for its therapeutic value, I think it's recreational value will only go up. It just still has a strong stigma associated with it
The big caveat is that ketamine is way more addictive than MDMA, and it's potential for abuse is a lot higher IMO
fartassmcjesus@reddit
I dunno about the hard drugs thing... I'm a bartender in a pretty wealthy ski area and almost all of the patrons use coke.
AvailableAd6071@reddit
Most people would be real surprised if they found out how many people they know do coke.
RatchetStrap2@reddit
Two things you learn when you become an adult.
Cheese is expensive
Everyone does coke
Fine-Spinach5528@reddit
ever since fentanyl came out coke is soft /s
Gorkymalorki@reddit
Yeah I am glad I had my party days back in the 90s when coke was just cute with aspirin etc. I would be way too scared of fentanyl to do any hard drugs nowadays.
jbcsee@reddit
Everyone I know who uses it just tests it first, the test kits are cheap.
TitanInTraining@reddit
Exactly this. Responsible use includes testing. They're no reason not to since it's easily accessible and cheap.
FeralGiraffeAttack@reddit
Just to be specific, marijuana is legal on a statewide basis in 24 states and the District of Columbia (and medical cannabis is allowed in 40 states)
Princessformidable@reddit
I live in a state with no legalization or medical and in the Metro it's decriminalized with a $75 fine and there are legal strains like Delta 9 ( Don't quote me on which Delta is the legal one I just don't like weed)
jbcsee@reddit
I guess it depends on what you call hard drugs. I know so many people who do things like coke, mdma and psychedelics (mostly mushrooms).
AUCE05@reddit
I would been fine if they were all illegal
ReferenceCreative510@reddit
I just roll my eyes and not inhale smokers' exhaled nicotine if I'm walking by them. I was raised not to indulge in drugs or cigarettes (considering I'm asthmatic, I've never wanted to use them anyway). Alcohol's something I've never bothered to try, even though I absolutely could.
soggysocks6123@reddit
Im from the Midwest. I got a couple friends that frown on any kind of alcohol use. They’re kinda different people tho, they have lots of special rules and are definitely not the norm.
Cigarette use seems trashy, even the Indian casinos (the last hold out near me) have banned indoor cigarette use.
Drugs are hit and miss, many people use marijuana and don’t cause a problem. Yet everyone who’s caused me a problem in the last year turned out to be a marijuana user. Marijuana use is often tolerated, hard drugs like meth or Coke are not tolerated by the general public.
Oddly enough pain medication use is on the downfall near me. Kinda odd but I’ll take it.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
As a former smoker, it is awesome to read the casinos are now non smoking.
soggysocks6123@reddit
Im torn on it honestly. I don’t smoke, nor do I like smoking but to me it seems crazy that a business owner can’t smoke in their own business.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
What makes a casino owner any different from any other business owner that can't smoke in their businesses (restaurants) because the city has deemed them non-smoking.
Ok, let me put it to you another way. How much does that business owner make off that cigarette? How much can the business owner make off of someone that would not have gone in if the business allowed smoking? It is rare someone spends under $20 in casino and usually 10 times that or more.
soggysocks6123@reddit
Well it’s an Indian casino, so the difference is that they can legally do it, thus why they just like last year decided to ban it even tho they could continue.
But for the most part im referring to state regulated businesses being inspected and rejected over the years by a garbage 2nd tier attention deprived state level governments (mostly just Michigan).
I know a guy who once had his business shut down for 3 months and then paid 11 thousand dollars to downgrade his ventilation system to a state approved system so he could open his doors. He complains that he now has half the efficiency, but this is what the state wants, because they want him to close his doors.
It’s all a big show.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
That last part makes no sense .
soggysocks6123@reddit
I’m well aware, but luckily for state level governments, they often have a monopoly on what ever the issue is.
Brave_Speaker_8336@reddit
Super dependent on the environment, though in general alcohol is the most accepted and harder drugs the least accepted.
Ok-Equivalent-5131@reddit
As someone in their late 20s I’d guess that number of people who have done hard recreational drugs in the past year starts falling off a lot in the mid-late 20s. At least that’s what it seems like iv observed based on friends from college.
Also depends on your group. People who do drugs are more likely to be friends with people who do drugs.
Brave_Speaker_8336@reddit
I’m sure it’ll fall off with age but it’s a relatively varied group: from class, sports (pickleball, volleyball, climbing mostly), dorms/randomly assigned roommates, various college social events etc. Not run club but there are a couple that came from preparing for a marathon together, but also some from college parties (none from clubs though)
Demographically, the main thing that I can think of in common is that most are from California but that’s about it. There’s a pretty range of family financial backgrounds and careers, eg it’s not like a majority in investment banking or anything like that
Drew707@reddit
Mushrooms are another one that is being more normalized. LSD still has a lot of weird baggage, though, that mushrooms do not.
Remember when salvia was a thing? That shit was 1000x more terrifying than mushrooms or LSD.
LF3000@reddit
I had a friend in college back when salvia was big who was applying for a job with the federal government. He stopped smoking weed because the job was going to drug test, and did a bunch of salvia instead. What a time!
(Sidenote: he got the job and is now a highly successful academic at a top university. All sorts of people do drugs!)
Opening_Total7711@reddit
I agree that mushrooms are being more normalized but I still don't think they're even close to the level of acceptance as THC. They still kind of carry the hippie stoner "i wanna see wavy trees" vibe outside of stoner circles. Or maybe within too lol.
Drew707@reddit
That's kinda how I see LSD, too, but with the added MK Ultra lore.
MyFace_UrAss_LetsGo@reddit
Alcohol is a pretty hard drug. It's just socially acceptable.
Relevant_Elevator190@reddit
It depends. A couple of beers is much different than hard liquor.
Princessformidable@reddit
If you are properly doing Ketamine the same thing is true. It's super chill in small doses people just only hear about k-holes.
digger250@reddit
It can cause irreversible bladder control issues. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4544340/
Princessformidable@reddit
But it doesn't mention frequency of use or dosage . This needs more info.
digger250@reddit
It's best to be informed about the consequences. Otherwise just FAFO.
DonNadie2468@reddit
I would disagree. It's the amount of alcohol.
A couple of beers or a couple of mixed drinks (depending, of course, on who mixes the drinks) can be pretty much equivalent.
Doing one shot of booze after another will, obviously, get you very drunk very fast.
But you can (and people do) achieve the same effect by chugging a couple of sixpacks of beer.
It might take a little longer, but the result is the same.
MyFace_UrAss_LetsGo@reddit
Same goes for most other drugs. If you take a smaller dosage, the effects aren't as strong as a larger one.
shelwood46@reddit
I'd note that while we finding alcohol socially acceptable, outside of some very specific groups (of alcoholics), drinking to excess once you are out of college is pretty frowned on, and getting black out drunk is not considered normal (I've noticed in shows from other countries like the UK and Australia, someone will say "I was drunk, I don't remember last night" and everyone is like, "Yes, that is normal" while Americans would probably start quietly organizing an intervention).
LL8844773@reddit
I’d strongly disagree with this.
Princessformidable@reddit
I disagree and would say in the U.S getting black out is tolerated until 30.
LL8844773@reddit
4-5 drinks is considered binge drinking. I don’t know anyone who would say this warrants an intervention.
Delicious_Panda_6946@reddit
Yea us yanks black out on the regular
LL8844773@reddit
I believe excess drinking is defined as 4-5 drinks. This doesn’t widely stop after college and it certainly wouldn’t cause discussions of an intervention
tcspears@reddit
This will vary quite a bit depending on the state, as each state has its own culture and norms. In Texas, for example, Marijuana is very illegal. In Massachusetts, there are marijuana stores everywhere and you don't need a special license or card for it.
it's important to separate these out as well.
Cigarettes - growing up in the 80s and 90s it was normal to see people smoke, now it's pretty rare. In many states there are a lot of restrictions around when/where you can smoke. Compared to most European cities, smoking is not seen nearly as much in the US, nor is it tolerated as much.
Alcohol - Alcohol is legal is practically every state, but each state has different laws around it. In Masschusetts, even airports cannot serve alcohol on Sunday mornings. In NY, you can get alcohol 24/7. In NH you can only buy alcohol from state-owned stores. In louisiana, you can buy a beer in a restaurant and then take it to go. Generally alcohol is accepted in the US, there may be some that are against it, but you'll generally find it available at most restaurants and people won't be shocked to learn you drink. The rules around it are wildly different per state.
Marijuana (calling this out separately) - many states have legalized it either recreationally, or for "medicinal", which just means you need a card/license for it. I would say it is much less stigmatized than when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s, and only "druggies" and "stoners" used it. Now it's very common to see all walks of life using it in some form or another. It is controlled though, you can't use it indoors in most places, and you can't use it and drive.
Drugs (I'm thinking coke, ecstasy, heroin) tend to very by state, and often separated by urban/rural as well. They are generally not accepted, and are illegal to use or possess in just about every setting. They tend to not be looked on as normal in most circles. While they are obviously used, it's not something you would just casually bring out. For example, at a company party there may be alcohol, some may have weed gummies, but bringing out a bag of coke would be a bit shocking to most.
GSilky@reddit
Sure. We still spend more on alcohol and tobacco than education, and we still pretend like we don't. We bitch about drug addicts, and never think that clearly there are plenty of upstanding citizens doing drugs often enough to end up addicts. It's a weird Puritan v roughneck culture towards it, with both strands usually being expressed in the same statement.
potlizard@reddit
I think smoking is more frowned upon here than in Europe. Hard drug use (i.e., not cannabis) is unfortunately more and more accepted, just because “YOU CAN’T JUDGE!!” Then, when they become addicts and fuck everything up, it becomes everybody else’s problem. Alcohol is kind of “meh” because it’s legal, readily available, a rich source of tax revenue, and many/most people can drink without it actually becoming an issue.
dasHeftinn@reddit
Definitely depends on the things you mentioned. As a blue collar worker in his 30s, drinking and smoking (cigarettes mostly) are… pretty universal traits, at least where I’m at (somewhat rural south).
Not_an_alt_69_420@reddit
I work construction, too, and literally everyone I've worked/work with drinks, uses Zyns/dip throughout the day, and smoke cigarettes during actual breaks. Most of the guys who don't have their CDLs and or don't work for a company that drug tests smoke weed, too.
Adorable-Award-2975@reddit
I’m 42 and I’ll say even from when I turned legal drinking age to now it’s been a pretty big change. Just making sweeping generalizations here but drinking and smoking way down and Marijuana usage way up.
Budsygus@reddit
Cigarettes are pretty widely looked down on, even among smokers themselves. It's just hard to quit.
Alcohol is pretty widely tolerated and even celebrated until AFTER someone hits rock bottom, then it's "Oh, thoughts and prayers, so tragic, how could this have happened?" when just two weeks ago people were pouring drinks down the guy's throat at a bar.
Mostly, though, it depends on the state. Honestly it even depends on the neighborhood.
davidm2232@reddit
It varies by group. Some of my friends can't imagine smoking marijuana. Some of my friends are habitual cocaine users. Once you get into heroin and meth, you start getting judged. Most of my friends, family, and coworkers are borderline to full alcoholics. No one thinks twice about having a beer or two while driving. Alcohol is a primary element of all social gatherings.
kerisugi@reddit
Where I'm familiar with is the area on the east coast between New York and Washington DC. It depends on which drugs. Tobacco cigarettes are on the decline, and weed and edible thc is on the rise. As usual, we have a prescription drug epidemic that most of us don't think too much about. It so often comes from needing to get to work before you're fully healed after illness or an injury, and when your prescription runs out, you gotta find more, less legitimate ways to self medicate. Drinking is seen as pretty normal, but it's popularity is waning a bit.
PRABHAT_CHOUBEY@reddit
Also large liquor stores like total wine are basically being saved by THC beverages the Sell. With alcohol consumption on the decline, especially among Gen Z, they have hard pivoted to Promoting THC drinks. There is a spot here in Texas that converted there entire last aisle that used to be all beer of different flavours of Crescent 9 THC drinks.
SassyGirl0202@reddit
In CA you’re hard pressed to smoke cigarettes anywhere near food/bars etc.
shammy_dammy@reddit
It depends a lot. And it depends on which 'drug' as well.
Consistent-Cress-262@reddit
Depends and varies widely. I can speak from my perspective as an early 20s woman in the northwest US whose family is impacted by addiction, most of my friends my age hardly drink. We usually have 1-3 drinks at most and that’s pretty rare. We smoke a lot of weed though, but I’d say most of us use it for chronic pain or medicinally. I don’t know a single person who doesn’t have loved ones impacted by addiction, and I think we are cautious because of that. I have a few friends who do harder drugs but it seems tightly controlled and recreational to me. But I think they might not share certain parts of their drug use with me due to my sensitivity to it. Generally, I think a lot of people my age think it’s uncool.
Consistent-Cress-262@reddit
As for cigarettes, most of my friends do smoke cigs, but they all hand roll them. I think that’s not very common though
DesertWanderlust@reddit
Absolutely depends. The younger generations have turned against alcohol and cigarettes, but have unfortunately turned to marijuana and vaping. Just trading vices for vices, and it remains to be seen which is worse.
GrowlingAtTheWorld@reddit
All I can say is how I see it, alcohol is fine if you don’t overly imbibe too much or too often and stay away from motor vehicles. Cigarettes stink and can cause cancer smoke them if you don’t need to exhale. Drug use is stupid. And as an add on marijuana smoking has both the negative of stinking and causing cancer and being dumb.
MuppetManiac@reddit
I don’t know anywhere that nicotine products and cigarettes in particular aren’t highly looked down on.
Alcohol use is generally fine, but apart from specific areas and professions (notably Wisconsin and lawyers,) getting drunk is frowned upon. Driving drunk is not considered remotely ok.
Weed is actually more socially acceptable than cigarettes in most cases. It’s not typically accepted to smoke anything in public, and many places don’t allow smoking of any kind indoors anywhere, but being high in public isn’t really that big a deal. Driving high is not ok. Way more people do it than drive drunk though.
Hard drug use is not really acceptable to most people. There is a population that thinks cocaine or Molly or ex is ok as a party drug, but it’s not the majority.
Arleare13@reddit
Yes. Also you can’t just roll up alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs into one thing; those are treated very differently between them.
MyUsername2459@reddit
Also, with regard to "drugs", people tend to draw a distinction between cannabis and other drugs.
frostyflakes1@reddit
Cannabis used to be way more taboo across the whole country before it was legalized.
os2mac@reddit
we have a cannabis dispensary right across the street from the local FBI building... :)
MyUsername2459@reddit
Oh, I know.
20 or 30 years ago it was VERY different in terms of how it was seen.
I've watched it become more socially acceptable over recent years in ways that stoners of the 80's and 90's would have only dreamed of.
Odd-End-1405@reddit
This!!!
CharlesDickensABox@reddit
And there is a distinct difference between how people treat those who engage in substance use casually and with restraint versus how people treat use to excess. Drinking is usually perceived as neutral, often slightly positive, drinking to excess is considered déclassé.
CountChoculasGhost@reddit
Cigarettes: Bad
Weed: Depends. It is legal in a lot of states now, so obviously a lot less taboo now. But I would say people that constantly smoke or do so in public are still looked down on.
Other drugs: I’d still say bad. There may have been a tiny tiny bit of a shift in seeing addiction as an illness and not a moral defect, but I would say most people still look down on drug users.
Alcohol: A lot of younger people are foregoing alcohol. I think there has been a shift in public perception. We know how bad alcohol is for you, but until recently I think a lot of people just kind of turned a blind eye. I think more people are choosing to abstain for health reasons now though. Alcohol is still a HUGE business though and no one is judging someone for going out for a beer with friends on the weekend or whatever.
the-quibbler@reddit
LF3000@reddit
Definitely don't agree that all non-THC drugs are associated with being poor. Opioids and meth, yes. But coke, MDMA, shrooms, even ketamine are all drugs I associate with well off party/EDM/festival kids. Coke in particular is something I see as very culturally associated with rich people, Wolf of Wall Street style.
DizzyFly9339@reddit
I don’t think anyone considers cocaine to be a vice of the poor. Meth, sure. But coke is for stock brokers and lawyers.
the-quibbler@reddit
Coke has a weird cultural relevance. I would say it falls under the "poor people use illegal drugs" umbrella, in spite of this.
TitanInTraining@reddit
Poor people definitely can't afford Coke or K. Get real.
the-quibbler@reddit
The question was about the perception of drugs in America. In general, "hard" drugs are considered declassé.
TitanInTraining@reddit
Totally disagree about the "in general" part. It's hugely regional and based on the circles you are in. Where I am, Coke, K, and Weed are all extremely common in affluent circles of anyone in their 30s-60s.
Lezlord-69@reddit
Wisconsin is the drunkest state in the country. Its something like 43 out of 50 of the drunkest counties are all in Wisconsin. They were the last state to raise the drinking age, and it's still perfectly legal for a child to accompany their parent to a bar and be served alcohol. So we definitely drink a lot.
I have since moved from Wisconsin to Chicago, while there is still plenty of booze I find my group of peers is much more enthralled by cannabis. I know coke is still a popular party drug, probably less so than it used to be. Most of the drug users I know have moved away from harsher things like prescription drugs, ketamine, etc. But the same group is still into mushrooms and molly.
As a young(ish) person drinking and drug use is not frowned upon as long as you can handle yourself. I would say drug use is generally accepted. But again, Chicago is a major city with legal cannabis so it will differ greatly depending on location
strangeristalking@reddit
Cigarettes are generally frowned upon. I don’t know anyone my age who smokes outside of the occasional “drunk cig”. Drinking is very socially accepted but there is definitely an uptick in sobriety with the younger generation. I would say weed is overall viewed positively if not neutrally. Other drugs are still very much stigmatized (although shrooms are gaining popularity).
Atlas7-k@reddit
Weed is fine till I have to smell it. I would rather you blow cig smoke in my face than have someone light a joint.
dontgiveahamyamclam@reddit
Man you be trippin. I don’t smoke much these days but weed smells like a bouquet of roses compared to nasty ass cigs.
sean8877@reddit
Yeah I'll take weed smoke over cig smoke any day
LEGStheband@reddit
Yeah, no judgment but I can’t stand cigarette smoke. Way prefer the smell of weed.
ArtDecoNewYork@reddit
I have nothing against either but I much prefer the smell of tobacco smoke personally
westo4@reddit
Cigarettes are increasingly frowned upon (as they are in other countries), but raping is making strong inroads, especially among young people.
Drinking is less popular among young people lately than it had been a decade ago, though.
westo4@reddit
Vaping!! Spellcheck did a number in me. Apologies, everyone!
Cinisajoy2@reddit
I think you have or I hope you have a typo.
DizzyFly9339@reddit
Raping better not be making strong inroads
Opening_Total7711@reddit
Someone has to stop these young people!
Fabulous-Ad8906@reddit
Thank goodness I still smoke cigarettes.
dasHeftinn@reddit
I certainly hope that’s not the case for raping…
PlutonicPurrfume@reddit
Might want to fix that typo friend
PNW_lover_06@reddit
spelling?
turdburgalr@reddit
Please, check your spelling before hitting post.
DrDirt90@reddit
Spell check for the raping????
frostyflakes1@reddit
It really does depend on those factors you listed. In general, drinking and smoking are falling out of favor while marijuana use is becoming more accepted.
DruncleMuncle@reddit
I feel like in adults, moderate drug & alcohol use are accepted, but smoking makes someone trashy.
lakersfan83@reddit
It’s viewed ALL DAY EVERY DAY
Thereelgerg@reddit
Depends on the substance and manner of use. Your question kind of sucks.
LongOrganization7838@reddit
It changes area to area but both cigarette and alchohol use is down by somewhere between 60-80% with gen z and older gen alpha nationwide,
Only_Presentation758@reddit
Drinking - very common
Pot - accepted by many
Vaping - popular w young people
Cigarette smoking - frowned upon
Harder drugs like coke - less accepted than in the ‘80s
ArtDecoNewYork@reddit
Drinking: Largely accepted (unless driving), especially in moderation. Though there are plenty of people who are preachy about it.
Drugs: I would say weed is fairly accepted, and probably psychedelics as well. Cocaine is accepted in some circles and heroin/opioids/meth are pretty universally considered to be bad.
Smoking: Considered not good for you but I really disagree with a lot of the comments acting like it's universally reviled. I know quite a few people who smoke (especially occasionally) and they're not low class people by any means. And then there are cigars, which are more of a niche hobby or a celebration kind of thing.
hitometootoo@reddit
Cigarettes are out of style and old fashion at this point. Not just because of the style, but we know better about the health risk for it. Instead, people will vape though from my own perspective, far less people vape compared to those that smoked before.
Alcohol is acceptable and expected for most adults. As long as you're not a lush or alcoholic, no one cares what you do for this. Thankfully, the view towards those who choose to not drink or not want to get drunk, is also much more acceptable in this day and age. Helps that the cost of alcohol is expensive too, so it's not odd for people to turn down paying $10 for a drink,
dontgiveahamyamclam@reddit
What’s a lush?
hitometootoo@reddit
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lush
Slang for a heavy drinker or alcoholic.
Physical-Incident553@reddit
Cigarette smoking is a nasty, filthy habit.
NBKiller69@reddit
I don't smoke cigarettes, but I'm indifferent if others do. I so enjoy cigars pretty regularly, sometimes a pipe.
I don't drink too often these days, but I've usually got something on hand.
For drugs I don't really mind them. I would smoke if I wasn't so worried about getting tested at work, but my true loves are psychadelics, which aren't widely tested for here.
If it matters, I'm 44 and live in the Midwest.
Darmok47@reddit
I've always wanted to smoke a pipe, but cigars are generally easier. My local cigar lounge does have pipe and pipe tobacco available. Maybe I'll try it sometime.
NBKiller69@reddit
Health risks aside, I have found it to be a very relaxing way to spend part of the evening; just a good smoke, a good drink, maybe a little music, watching the sunset while we've got this beautiful weather
Sharontoo@reddit
Smoking is disgusting. Was so glad when laws came into place disallowing it inside eating establishments, bars, public buildings etc. It’s so gross.
One-Pangolin-3167@reddit
Necessary.
Darmok47@reddit
In San Francisco its more socially acceptable to smoke a joint than it is to smoke a cigarette. Though honestly I find the smell of weed to be just as offputting as cigarette smoke. Maybe even more so. Cigarettes are also seen more as a "low class" thing.
As for drugs, marijuana is socially acceptable here and very common. Harder drugs are common enough to the point where its one of the filters on the dating app Hinge.
Flat_Ad1094@reddit
I'm not American. BUT...the USA is a huge country with a population of 340 million people. There is wide variations across the nation. With everything!
Authorizationinprog@reddit
Depends entirely on states. Colorado ,for example , weed , booze , psychs , X ,ketamine ( IV ketamine therapy is legal here by the way ) and coke are the norm in many circles. Just about everything except crystal and heroin. Whereas Wyoming just north of us is notoriously anti - weed
edgarjwatson@reddit
Freak freely, don't be an asshole
CowboysFTWs@reddit
Not an expert. But:
Alcohol, weed all ok in moderation pretty much for everyone.
Poppers and nitrous oxide, ok in certain groups. Look down on by others.
Shrooms and MDMA, seem ok only if you used at certain times/events.
Cigarettes, tobacco. Look down on.
Coke, seems look down on, unless you're wealthy.
The rest of hard drugs, you're basically a junkie.
VanillaCavendish@reddit
I use drugs every day and nobody seems to care. Of course, the drugs I use were prescribed by a doctor to control my blood pressure.
cmiller4642@reddit
Drinking floats between sloppy white trashy with Natty light to bougie at wine bars and craft breweries
Narrow_Roof_112@reddit
Yes please
Cinisajoy2@reddit
That is 3 separate questions. Drinking in bars is not as prevalent as it was several years ago. No one thinks twice about people drinking at parties. Also more liquor stores than there used to be.
While cigarettes have fallen out of favor, most stores still sell them and vape shops are really popping up.
Drugs including marijuana are still illegal in Texas.
z44212@reddit
Smoking is generally considered to be stupid and low-class. Getting drunk is also viewed poorly.
Moderate drinking is socially acceptable.
A general rule is that we don't like to be able to smell your vice (cigarettes, alcohol, marijuana). If you smell bad, you're a loser.
I_Owe_Suzanner@reddit
Disclaimer - I am one guy in a huge country. Attitudes vary by geography and social class.
Not many smokers in the US. Smoking in bars is almost universally banned. Marijuana is legal in many states but not federally legal (complicated topic). Many people smoke marijuana, but public consumption is not seen often or tolerated in most places. But you can smell it all over the place. Too many people drive while smoking marijuana.
The big change recently is the drop in alcohol consumption, especially with young adults. Still, if you want to drink and smoke, there are plenty of places to do it. One common rule: Drunk driving is not tolerated and is seen as a stupid and selfish Get an Uber.
Meth and Opioids is a real problem in some areas. Opioids are perhaps the biggest public health problem in America.
Ok_Classic_1968@reddit
In my state any place I’ve lived marijuana and alcohol were completely socially accepted. Party drugs and hallucinogens were as well mostly, more so on the west side of the state than the east side- in my circles in the Seattle area I was a bit of an outlier for not wanting to partake in those things. I barely knew anybody who smoked cigarettes more often than just at parties or bars.
Dignam3@reddit
Cigarette smoking is generally looked down upon. Drinking (now take this with a massive grain of salt given my state) is not only accepted, but ingrained in the culture. Weed is mostly accepted, even in areas where it's illegal. My city has decriminalized it, even though it's still illegal on the state level. I think even the DA has stated they will not prosecute simple possession.
OrangeToTheFourth@reddit
Marijuana use is well accepted in my area (North Carolina) to the point where there is a cafe near me that serves thca/delta9/etc drinks as a regular part of their menu and I see families in there all the time with young kids. It's not near as taboo and it's out in the open unlike when I was younger. My job also did not test for marijuana pre-employment, but apparently most still will especially if you operate equipment.
Breweries as a family place are also super common. Generally beers/ciders/hard seltzers are seem as normal and okay as long as you don't get drunk.
The point where you're too high or too drunk to function is generally socially unacceptable in daytime. Drinking or getting high by yourself frequently is usually seen as concerning in my peer group (late 20s). Hemp gummies to sleep/for pain is outside of that and pretty accepted.
Going to the next tier of acceptability would probably be ketamine, shrooms, LSD, etc. Wouldn't be abnormal to have a conversation with someone at a concert, bar, or club about their experiences with any of the above. There's often kind of a mental/spiritual journey component to it where people will take them to have a specific experience that they like to tell you about if it went well. Any party uppers taken at a rave or music festival kinda slot into this category for me too.
Next layer I would say is cocaine. If someone works in food service they're probably doing cocaine. If it's at a party (not in my house) I'll leave you to it: I hate the stuff but you're making your choices for yourself. Keep that shit out of my house. If you're taking uppers just to get through your day or making yourself broke to keep it up ... You have a problem. I've lost one very close person to that cycle. It also carries a lot higher risk because it's easy to cut with fentanyl and shitty fillers. I personally won't be comfortable getting close with someone who is a regular user.
After that would be anything injectable... Keep that shit far away from me. If you're in my life and start using I'm going to try my best to get you access to what you need to not. If you're already using I'm not comfortable having you in my life.
Special shout-out to meth for a "stay the fuck away from me, my copper wiring, and my catalytic converter". I'm from the Appalachian mountains, and you could always tell who crawled out of a shack in the woods for food after a bender. You keep an eye on them and keep your distance. The walking dead but fast moving.
Weekly_March@reddit
It's heavily dependent on the groups you're with. I can't say there's much of an agreed upon view on it.
CantCreateUsernames@reddit
Alcohol: Socially accepted by most, but not for people under 21. Some underage drinking is accepted when done with family members and limited to small amounts of wine and beer. Binge drinking is common between the ages of 16 and 25, but becomes less popular as one ages. Alcoholism of all ages is less accepted by the general public, but sometimes romanticized in various forms of art, unfortunately. Newer generations are drinking significantly less due to a lack of social settings where alcohol is present. Drinking and driving is looked down on, but still all too common. Drinking and driving deaths decreased significantly after the drinking age was raised to 21. Drinking and driving remains a major issue in the US because we don't have reliable public transit in most places. All states raised the drinking age to 21 because it became a requirement for certain types of federal funding. Common drinks include beer, wine, and liquor. Microbreweries grew in popularity in the 21st century. Wine is drunk by many, but generally more of a middle-class-and-up type of drink. Beer is drunk by everyone. Liquor really depends on the individual, but there are microcultures of people who are really into specific spirits like Whiskey.
Cigarettes: We have seen a significant decline in cigarette use in the 21st century. It is primarily only lower-income populations who smoke now. However, we have seen a significant increase in vaping nicotine, which is not great. Adding lots of sweet flavors has attracted lots of teenagers to get addicted to vaping. There is no longer smoking indoors, with the exception of casinos in Nevada. Overall, it is viewed very negatively now, especially if you have children or are around children.
Drugs: Really depends on the type of drugs. Generally, most illegal drugs are looked down on, but naturally, drugs that poor people use are considered more problematic than drugs that rich people use (meth vs anti-anxiety medications). Pill popping has become a major issue in many parts of the US due to the ease of getting it prescribed and unethical doctors. Pills can be uppers for ADHD, downers for pain (opiates), anti-anxiety medications, or anything in between. Most of the time, people are prescribed these for legitimate medical reasons, but there are still lots of ways people abuse them or sell them for money. Lots of people become pill poppers and hide it from others due to shame. People generally don't get help if they can stay a "functional addict," which is a myth addicts tell themselves until things fall off the rails. Weed/pot/marijuana is a category of its own. Some places have legalized it for medical or recreational uses, and others still treat it like Heroin and put people in jail for absurd amounts of time. Generally, not acceptable to smoke pot in public, but less controversial when at concerts or other social events. Driving while high (on pot or pills) has become less socially acceptable over time, but it can be difficult to enforce. Too many people mix alcohol with strong medications, greatly impairing their driving ability (yet they still drive due to a lack of public transit).
Aquarius_K@reddit
Alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs are all very different things. Smoking cigarettes is an annoyance and a bad habit, it'll kill you too. Alcohol can be totally normalized or it can be seen as very bad. Marijuana is it's own category, same as Alcohol more and more now. Hard drugs are still seen as very bad unless you're like a rave kid or something lol. That'll get you ostracized and not able to get a job or anything.
Dpg2304@reddit
At a Phish concert? Encouraged. At your niece's 3rd birthday party? Frowned upon (apparently).
brandoldme@reddit
Alcohol and tobacco use are viewed quite frequently from my back porch.
IamTroyOfTroy@reddit
Cigs and alcohol are lame, but we love drugs. At least where I'm at. Depends on the crowd I suppose 🤷🏼♂️
IthurielSpear@reddit
Many drugs are illegal, cannabis is legal in 40 states (24 are legal for recreational and the others are legal for medical use). You can’t really lump drugs and alcohol and cigarettes into the same category though.
Drinking has decreased among younger generations. I personally don’t know very many people who smoke, if any. I see mostly older people using cannabis for things like arthritis pain and insomnia.
Personally, I don’t drink or smoke cigarettes but the cannabis helps me sleep by helping my adhd and auditory processing disorder brain focus when I’m trying to fall asleep.
Ill_Vermicelli_5705@reddit
It’s not my business what other people need to get through the day
Return_Of_The_Whack@reddit
Spent the last few years in construction/bartending. Drinking is very normalized even while on the job. Smoking is normal but frowned upon by people who aren't in the industry. Vaping is incredibly common with the younger generation. Drugs like Adderall/cocaine/marijuana/x are fairly normalized in certain circles as long as you can hold your shit. I'm in the Mid-Atlantic-south for context.
Most people who aren't in the trades/service industry cannot keep up with the late nights and heavy substance use.
Hard drugs are much less common in my circles.
Minute-Frame-8060@reddit
Looked down on with derision by some. Totally depends on socio-economic situation.
Someone who does something in public or anywhere near other people that they can smell is incredibly rude.
DizzyFly9339@reddit
Almost no one cares about alcohol use as long as it’s in moderation. Cigarettes are widely frowned upon. Marijuana is viewed neutrally or favorably by the majority, but most other intoxicants are viewed negatively, particularly opioids as we’ve had a LOT of overdose deaths in the past 10-15 years.
bigblue2011@reddit
Over the last quarter century, Americans have decreased smoking, decreased drinking, and increased marijuana use.
Some of us - in light of recent geopolitics- have elected to reverse this trend.
sr1sws@reddit
Alcohol consumption is no big deal. Smokers generally get the side-eye from non-smokers, and I'd say drug use beyond marijuana is frowned upon.
Opening_Total7711@reddit
Alcohol - Very common and accepted. Often used in drinking games that treat alcohol as the punishment. E.g., King Cup where one loser has to chug a beer. Environemnts with more young people, especially men, tend to be more heavy on consumption. Competition and masculinity play a role. A lot of "Don't be a pussy" kind of vibes.
Cigarettes - Not common or accepted. It isn't seen as cool or normal. It's generally moreso limited to occasionally smoking when out drinking. But smoking with lunch of brunch or whatever would be quite taboo. Like if you got invited to a group brunch and whipped out a cigarette you'd be seen as a little strange. Might even annoy people if they're sensitive to the smoke. Smoking vapes though is different. This is accepted and fairly common.
Drugs - This is a mixed bag. Marijuana is generally quite accepted. Mushrooms are semi-accepted but not as mainstream as marijuana. LSD acid molly ecstacy etc are kind of in the 50/50 tier. There's acceptance and there's non-acceptance. E.g., I wouldn't date a woman that does these drugs but I doubt I'd have full consensus with other men. Cocaine is a bit less accepted than the aforementioned drugs. And anything stronger is generally not normal or acceptable in a majority of cases. E.g., crack, speed, meth, heroine, fentanyl, etc.
Gordita_Chele@reddit
Big reminder to non-U.S. citizens, marijuana is still illegal on a federal level, so if you have any aspirations of one day applying for a visa or resident status in the U.S., marijuana is pretty risky. Citations, arrests, or even work related to the cannabis industry can be reason to be denied immigration status. On to the general question you asked…
Alcohol consumption is on the decline in you generations, but it’s still very common and acceptable. Marijuana use is more and more common, but how openly people smoke it really depends on the state and local laws. Cigarettes vary a lot depending on the social group and/or class. But it’s generally frowned upon to smoke cigarettes near other people, especially children, and their use is seriously on the decline. Vaping nicotine is especially common among young people, and also a little among older folks who have been lifelong cigarette smokers and gave it up for vaping.
Ok_Kick_5090@reddit
Drinking is accepted, but drug use (including marijuana) is looked down upon, as is smoking. The exception is 16-35 year olds. They have more permissive attitudes due to young age.
ophaus@reddit
Drinking among younger generations is WAY down. Smoking seems to be making a slight comeback now that people realize how utterly atrocious vaping is. Drugs are still drugs.
aspiringdeadgirl@reddit
Drinking liquor and beer are widely acceptable, so long as you're not driving and/or showing up plasterer to anywhere public.
Weed is pretty acceptable but some older folks still look down on it. For example, in Oklahoma where weed is legal, several older people (in my experience it's usually conservative women ages 50+) see it as trashy, low-life behavior and seems slightly annoying by the "stench" and politics of grow farms.
Cigarettes are widely looked down upon unless you smoke. You can't even smoke in a lot of bars anymore (at least where I am) or restaurants (thank God).
When I visited Munich, I was surprised how the city smelled like a giant ashtray! As I thought Germans took pride in eating healthy and cycling, so it was pretty jarring seeing so many people smoking in public spaces - especially so while indoors
msabeln@reddit
“There are no rules!” they say, “Don’t let anyone tell you what you can or cannot do!”
What they don’t tell you: “There will be severe consequences for any mistakes.”
Americans hate sanctimonious prigs, and basically anyone who is a buzzkill, and instead idolize cool people who do their own thing. But America is also a law-and-order country.
PresentationFluffy24@reddit
Cigarette smoking is generally highly frowned upon and extremely rare in urban environments.
Tr33Bl00d@reddit
Only cool people smoke tobacco now /s
luckystrike_bh@reddit
It depends on if the right people are making money off it. Alcohol is becoming less popular but kills many. Nicotine is killing people left and right. Marijuana is moving up but too many people make big bucks off of booze. Harder drugs are frowned upon in polite society.
DuelJ@reddit
Moderate alcohol use is considered to be a normal thing by pretty much all.
Heavy drinking is seen as bad by most; though it's moreso seen as dissapointing and sad than it is taboo.
The kids of today are notably more skeptical of alcohol than those vefore them.
LABELyourPHOTOS@reddit
Use or abuse. Alcohol - fine in moderation. Marijuana - some places it's fine in moderation. Other drugs - not really ok. Most considered pretty bad. Cigarettes seen as pretty bad. I know more marijuana users than tobacco smokers.
AwesomeHorses@reddit
It depends what substance it is. Alcohol is generally seen as fine unless you are abusing it. People who smoke cigarettes are generally seen as stinky and inconsiderate to people around them. For weed, it really depends on the area. People who do hard drugs like meth are seen as potentially dangerous.
grayjey@reddit
I think it’s trashy but I’m very puritanical in that way
LastAcrossFinishHare@reddit
I work fast food. Over half my coworkers vape. Everyone of age drinks. A few smoke. Marijuana is illegal in Pennsylvania but a few enjoy. Nothing harder that I know of.
On the other hand, my friend group outside of work does none of the above. I met most of them through church.
Soldier8_1981@reddit
It's a fine line like many things in the US. If you like to party hard, drink, smoke, you're a hero. But if you miss work the next day, you're a deadbeat alcoholic or stoner.
Witty-Stand888@reddit
Cigarette prices and bad media have killed smoking. Young people cant afford to go to bars and drink $8 beers and they do not socialize like past generations. Drug use is out of control in poor areas.
schonleben@reddit
As others have said, there’s a range of answers to this. I’m parts of the south, I’d say that cigarettes are still relatively accepted, while alcohol is less accepted and any drug use even less. In my circles, marijuana isn’t looked down on at all. Alcohol is very accepted in moderation, and hallucinogens aren’t particularly common but aren’t stigmatized. Cigarettes are the least accepted, but there are still quite a few people who might have a cigarette after an occasional night of drinking.
No-Pickle-8200@reddit
Smoking is generally frowned upon and less common than in many other countries… for example most of Europe smokes more… although the popularity of flavored vapes has increased smoking for younger generations. There are very few restaurants or public places where smoking is allowed and many people see it as off putting.
Alcohol use is common, but I think we have less of a drinking culture than many other cultures. I lived in the UK for a while and I would see guys passed out on the train after a football match and everyone would kind of see it as a bit silly or funny… being passed out in public would not be seen that way in the US. Definitely a lot of people drink at bars or in their own homes.
Weed is legal in a lot of states and is seen as no big deal by a lot of people. I live in a state where I could legally buy it any time I want some, my neighbors often sit on their front porches smoking a joint. No big deal.
Harder drugs are frowned upon but not uncommon. Certain industries seem to have them around a lot more- for example I think Coke is really common when you work in the restaurant industry… but would be seen as extremely scandalous by a lot of office workers.
Opiate abuse has been a major problem in our country, most people probably know someone who had issues with opiates. Sadly they were often originally prescribed by a doctor for pain management after a surgery or something, and then the person becomes addicted. Some areas such as Appalachia were hit particularly hard by the opiate epidemic, because of socioeconomic and political factors.
ArtichokeInevitable7@reddit
This is very regional.
revengeappendage@reddit
Smoking is gross.
Drugs are bad, kids.
And plenty of people drink alcohol responsibly.
crtclms666@reddit
Alcohol’s a drug. My father was a psychiatrist, and he preferred I smoke weed because it’s so much safer.
revengeappendage@reddit
There’s always gotta be someone. 🙄
sparrow_42@reddit
They’re grrrrrrrrrreat!
AdAggressive1159@reddit
It's practically a necessity.
Justadropinthesea@reddit
Where I live, both alcohol and cannabis are legal,and moderate usage is acceptable but overuse of either isn’t. Cigarettes are very much looked down upon.
evaj95@reddit
Alcohol is the most socially accepted, but people expect others to not be falling down, sloppy drunk.
Typingdude3@reddit
We have very low smoking rates compared to Asia and Europe, so we kinda tackled that problem. Drinking is much less here too, simply because many people don’t want to spend the money on booze. Drugs are always looked on as bad, but I don’t have a feel for where we are compared to other countries.
sloppy_sheiko@reddit
Definitely depends a lot on the age group, state/location and sub culture.
I live in the Northern Californian wine region and drinking is not just accepted but extremely common. I’m in my 40’s and still have plenty of friends that smoke cigarettes, but a lot of people have moved to vapes. Recreational drugs are also pretty prevalent (especially marijuana) but I don’t keep the company of anyone - that I know of - that do hard drugs
Someone from a different age group and/or region will give you a much different answer.
JackPineSavage-@reddit
This is entirely dependent on the group/municpality. We still have completely dry counties in the US. Entire religious groups enforce sobriety as a means of their membership (Latter Day Saints).
The general public? Eh, its mostly dependent on the person but it varies from person to person.
Ok_Moose_7436@reddit
Cigarette smoking is still frowned upon, but I’d argue vaping is even more looked down upon lol(I think folks who vape are straight losers lmao). Drinking is kinda of a mix, Gen Z is drinking FAR less than previous generations, many of us are opting for weed instead, but some of us do still drink. As far as the hard drugs go, same as always, bad lol
SquydKyd@reddit
We don't tolerate any of that here
AquariusAction@reddit
generally IMO:
drinking - fine in moderation
drugs - bad unless it’s weed that’s a good drug
smoking - bad unless it’s fruity flavored smoke that’s a good smoke
WashuOtaku@reddit
Drugs are bad, mmmkay.
Application-Bulky@reddit
Nice try, narc