Do normal people take the bus?
Posted by Jonathan012021@reddit | AskAnAmerican | View on Reddit | 552 comments
I feel like in the UK and Europe, everyone can take the bus easily but I heard buses in USA are only for the poor?
EnvironmentalYam2058@reddit
People hate on the bus system in the US but where I’m at commuter buses are full of downtown office workers. Houston and DFW metro. It’s not uncommon in Houston for people to use the park and ride in the suburbs to take the commuter buses into downtown. And hospital workers living in downtown/midtown to take the metro train to the hospital district. And in Dallas they have a lot of Dart park and rides connected to the Dart trains to downtown and the Train that goes between downtown Dallas and Fort Worth that during commute hours is packed full of commuters. But both have problems with expansion because everyone keeps saying only poor and homeless use the public transit and they don’t want to fund it and that it takes away their rights of having a vehicle by increasing the public transit options.
vibe_ology@reddit
Interesting conservation. I don’t live in the US and don’t drive due to a health issue so I rely on buses and public transport. What do people do in the US if they cannot drive?
Ill-Woodpecker1857@reddit
When I lived in Baltimore it seemed to be mostly lower class that used public transport. The light rail on game day being the one exception that comes to mind.
When I lived in Pittsburgh it seemd like mostly upper middle class people on the way to/from office jobs.
Im not sure how much the specific routes I was taking played into that view of things.
firerosearien@reddit
Within a city, especially those that were built before cars (like NYC or Boston), it's common enough. To get from city to city it's not especially common, except maybe the NYC-Boston route.
BearsLoveToulouse@reddit
I lived in the NJ suburbs and I know my father took the bus to commute into NYC. My mom hated it because it was really inconvenient to get to the station and didn’t save a particularly large amount of money.
QuietObserver75@reddit
I'd say the bus was pretty popular among college students out in more smaller college towns.
LexiD523@reddit
The $5 Chinatown-to-Chinatown buses back in the day were quite the adventure 😆
MacaroonSad8860@reddit
you just never knew if one might explode between NYC and Boston! I was so grateful when Megabus came about
OnlyMrGodKnowsWhy@reddit
When you’re in one and you pass a different one on the highway pulled over because flames are shooting out of it
firerosearien@reddit
I never had the pleasure but I definitelt heard the stories
ScatterTheReeds@reddit
😄 people carrying live chickens on their laps and whatnot 😂
catchingstones@reddit
I take the bus to work. I own a car, but I’d have to pay to park and then walk from the garage. The bus is practically door to door.
quitealargeorangecat@reddit
Most people take the train in New York since buses have to deal with traffic. I take Amtrak to get to other cities because I’m not gonna waste hours of my life on the bus.
firerosearien@reddit
The bus is significantly cheaper than the train, which is not an insignificant consideration for many
KevrobLurker@reddit
Routes like Peter Pan are way cheaper than an Amtrak ticket. Some train tickets can be bought on special bargains, though.
Kenderean@reddit
Taking the bus to commute from NJ into Manhattan is super common, too. The NYC-Philly route is fairly common. And on the NYC-Hamptons route you'll even see rich people.
KevrobLurker@reddit
The Jitney!
GypsygirlDC@reddit
Buses are super common from along the entire DC-Boston route
dkesh@reddit
Intercities are pretty common for students going to in-state colleges. Megabus and it's successors are always packed around school break times.
FezzesnPonds@reddit
This. Cities built for horses are not car-friendly and generally have good public transit options.
greetcloud@reddit
It can vary. Where I live now all kinds of people use public transportation. People take busses and trains everywhere. I have lived in other places where mostly lower class people took the bus.
sluttypidge@reddit
The only bus routes near my home are an hours drive away.
crasho7@reddit
America just doesn't have comprehensive public transportation, outside of a few big cities. I lived in small towns in Korea and Italy and didn't own or need a car. I moved back to my mid size town in Michigan and tried to make it with a bus pass and zip car. Impossible. I bought a car in less than a year
Eccentric-Elf@reddit
I don’t live near any public transportation. No buses, no taxi, no train. Uber yes but that’s expensive and I don’t want to use it especially alone. I have a car but if I’m drunk or plan to drink then obviously can’t do that.
katarh@reddit
"Buses are for poor people" are what the racist, bigoted, suburbanites will say, as they sit and stew in a traffic jam for an hour.
Illustrious_Code_347@reddit
Outside a major city, they are definitely only really used by the poor or disabled … Inside a major city? Probably still only used by the poor or disabled. Depends on the city though. In Boston, like NYC, we have a pretty robust subway system, and everyone takes those, rich and poor alike.
But in more than 30 years in this city — and actually in the city city, Boston proper, not just suburbia — I can’t think of even a single time I’ve taken a bus. They seem to be ridden almost entirely by blacks, which makes sense in a lot of ways since many of them live in some of the poorer neighborhoods on the periphery of Boston — where it’s not too much of a pain in the ass to have a car, but where the subway doesn’t have as many stations as in the city innards, so the result is that the people from those areas who do not have a car are the ones riding buses, who are in fact poor blacks.
Living-Night4476@reddit
Depends on how far away from the school you are. Too close you walk too far you have to get a ride somehow to school via parents or friends. I lived right on the edge of being picked up by a bus so I got picked up first 6:40am-7am rode entire bus route to get to school. And school officially started at 8am. To be able to ride the bus home I’d have to stay for 9th period to be on elementary school bus line and still was last to be dropped off so I’d get home around 4:30-5pm after I walked the mile from my bus stop home.
FinanceGuyHere@reddit
I’ve lived in certain towns where everyone took the bus because the road which connected towns was only one lane. So if you didn’t take the bus to work, you would simply get stuck behind the bus!
I now live in a house that isn’t really close to a bus stop/route so it would be a pain to use it daily
gaymersky@reddit
It has been my experience that yes it is heavily dependent upon lower income I lived in Baltimore, Providence, Southwest Florida. All of them have adequate transportation but only being utilized by economically depressed people. I know because I used to be one.
zoppaTheDim@reddit
There are a handful of cities where public transport is used by almost everyone but multi-millionaires.
In the rest, busses are for the poor because they’re of deliberately limited use.
tcspears@reddit
Depends on your state, and also if you’re in an urban area or rural.
In cities, it’s super common. To take a bus from Chicago to NYC, tends to be more limited to budget travelers, as it’s a 30 hour bus ride, or 2 hour flight.
lfxlPassionz@reddit
Very location based. Busses are usually either privately funded or city funded if an area has them at all.
It used to be really common to use the bus for all your transportation where I live but during COVID they significantly reduced the number of busses and the time the busses run. They stop at the specific bus stops less often than they used to as well.
Because of this, way less people use the busses and it's been really rough for the disabled community in the area.
shammy_dammy@reddit
Are we talking local metro buses or long haul buses? In other words, are we going to work or school or are we going 800 miles away to see grandma? If it's the former, yes....with an asterisk. Many metros do not have existing or fit for purpose transit options. I have lived in a place where I took the bus to and from work on the daily, but I was lucky that my metro had a system and that I lived on the line that took me exactly where I wanted to go. If we're talking go see grandma 800 miles away, there is no way I'd be on a US bus to do that. Also there are huge portions of the US that have no bus service so that's not happening.
Waltz_whitman@reddit
Yes
thesweetestberry@reddit
I won’t take the bus to travel but I have taken it daily to work. I think the distinction is “what kind of bus?” City buses get a mix of people. Commercial buses that cross state lines are not usually desirable.
b0ingy@reddit
I take it every day twice a day
RonPalancik@reddit
I take the bus some places (too far to walk and not near the subway). Why not?
Money-Ad8553@reddit
On a national level, yes, this is because Americans tend to focus on car ownership and view taking public transportation as something contemptible and below them.
Now, when you go to more developed cities like New York, Boston, Washington DC, etc… you see more people taking the bus. I don’t own a car at all.
jevverson@reddit
I'm 40+ years old and only ever rode a bus as a Tourist.
xpunkrockmomx@reddit
I think it depends on your location.
brubauers@reddit
I can definitely see "normal" people taking the bus to work in LA or some other major city like that. Here in Albuquerque, it's almost like a mobility lifeline for a lot of people who are low-income, don't have a car, or both. I just wish it were a bit safer on certain routes.
GruntingButtNugget@reddit
I’m in Chicago, I take both the bus and the train on a regular basis. I think I’m a “normal” person
ClearLog2014@reddit
Conversely I am in the Chicago suburbs and almost never take a bus because either there's no bus going to my destination or taking the bus takes 3 times longer than driving. The reality of living in urban sprawl . . .
TeamTurnus@reddit
Yah yall (chicago) have a very normalized use of public transit (its nice, I like visiting Chicago since I dont have to drive around as much to get places)
citygirl_M@reddit
Me too in Philly. Have a bus stop on my corner and take it several times a week. Also “normal” and have a car. It’s too inconvenient to park a lot of places I’m going.
KevrobLurker@reddit
Northeastern US cities from Wash DC to Boston & some Midwestern/Great Lakes City you can commute to work using a subway, light rail or bus. Having a car is much more convenient, if you can find a parking space. Parking can be very expensive in places like Manhattan. (NYC)
potlizard@reddit
Busses are always dodging some deranged nut in a Pontiac Aztec.
zinky8@reddit
Most people in LA do not take the bus. The only people taking the bus there are people who can’t afford a car. If you can’t afford a car in LA you are likely poor.
archseattle@reddit
If OP is referring to “normal” people as white collar than I would agree with you for LA. Seattle and NYC, plenty of normal people take the bus. If blue collar is “normal” I think the answer is Yes in most large cities.
zinky8@reddit
I took the bus once in LA and I will never do that again.
HighFiveKoala@reddit
Not the bus but I took the LA Metro train (A-Line) from Long Beach to Little Tokyo last weekend and a guy tried to smoke his meth pipe in the train. Another passenger threatened to beat his ass and kicked him off the train.
I think I'd rather sit in traffic than go through that again.
archseattle@reddit
Rush hour is your best bet for not running into crazy people. Can get a bit wild outside of these times.
mina-ann@reddit
And even at rush hour you may still have crazies high on who knows what screaming on the bus. I am so glad I don't have to ride public transit anymore.
PackersDelendaEst@reddit
Most blue collar live in the suburbs and drive to the city for work where I am. I don’t know a single person in my blue collar industry that takes a bus to work.
brubauers@reddit
I guess that’s why I answered the way I did- I was born and raised in NY and it was kinda normal
boulevardofdef@reddit
In the movie Speed, which is about a bus being hijacked in LA, the writers felt like they had to justify Sandra Bullock being on the bus by saying she'd lost her driver's license.
ZHISHER@reddit
Not LA-I lived there until my 20’s. The buses were egregiously bad.
I live in Boston now, and definitely. I take the subway every day because it’s faster than sitting through gridlock. My boss lives in a $6M house but often takes the bus because he can sit and send out emails rather than drive.
HighFiveKoala@reddit
I took the LA Metro train (A-Line) from Long Beach to Little Tokyo last weekend. A guy tried to smoke his meth pipe in the train before another passenger threatened to beat his ass and to take it outside.
MTB_Mike_@reddit
No normal people are taking the bus in LA. You only take the bus if there aren't better options.
cryptic_mythic@reddit
Plenty of regular folks take the bus or the metro in LA
MTB_Mike_@reddit
Question was about the bus not the metro, and no, very few people take the bus. It was only recently they pulled a PSA to remind people not to shit on the bus. Almost everyone who rides the bus is because they do not have a car, they have no other options. "Normal" people in LA (the average person) has a car and does not ride the bus. Yes there are some people that ride it but its not the norm.
Extr4Sp1cy@reddit
I live in LA and I take the train/bus daily. I consider myself a “normal” person. I actually sold my car years ago because parking and traffic was such an issue. Where I live most places are easily accessible via walking. I’m going on 3 years no car and it’s only inconvenienced me maybe 3 times.
Financial_Test_6391@reddit
I have a few routes I use and I look painfully middle class. It probably looks like I have a recent DUI, but I just find it convenient sometimes :/
therealdrewder@reddit
No they don't.
__plankton__@reddit
It definitely has a stigma in LA among people that don’t
brubauers@reddit
that's the point I was trying to prove 😭
brubauers@reddit
I wouldn't know, I don't live there lmao just an assumption
jiggjuggj0gg@reddit
Then why are you answering the question if you’re making up an answer?
brubauers@reddit
Because it’s a realistic answer? Big cities and buses go together because it’s just an economically smarter idea
MadCityVelovangelist@reddit
I lived in LA and the bus system is a mobile homeless shelter. More employeed /well off people use the rail but rarely the bus. It's unfortunate, but also it's not a safe environment.
Quicherbichen1@reddit
And public transportation here in Albuquerque is free for everyone.
brubauers@reddit
As long as you aren't taking the ART bus, it's not terrible
beachbum19722025@reddit
Oh damn, I love the ART as someone who mostly gets around on bike or walks.
Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit
Yeah, I don't know what that person is talking about. I commute using ART and love it. Doubt I would choose to use public transit if I didn't live and work close to ART routes.
beachbum19722025@reddit
I also have a car, but prefer walking, riding my bike and public transportation to driving. That is used for heading out of town.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
Cool
xpunkrockmomx@reddit
Our town is free also.
Shoshin_Sam@reddit
Wait what? How could public buses be not safe? What could happen?
therealdrewder@reddit
You're spending a lot of time among strangers, emphasis on strange.
Shoshin_Sam@reddit
Is that essentially anywhere outside your home?
brubauers@reddit
https://www.krqe.com/news/albuquerque-metro/man-arrested-following-stabbing-on-art-bus-per-apd/
take a look for yourself, Sam
Shoshin_Sam@reddit
Shit that’s messed up. But what’s interesting is also that the article didn’t talk about a motive at all. It’s like it is commonly understood that the why doesn’t matter, which is crazier. I mean it’s hard to accept this was just random and can happen to anyone. Feels like they must’ve had a history.
Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit
I'm a "normal person" and I take the bus in Albuquerque. 😂 See a lot of other commuters, too.
I think in Burque, it's more about where you live. Despite all the complaining by people who don't actually use it, ART is great and makes commuting by bus super easy. But it's limited, and buses in the rest of the city are much more of a hassle.
Also, speaking as a criminologist who has actually looked into this, our public transit is pretty damn safe. 😂 I know the news stories you're talking about, but you have to remember that our local news loves to stoke a panic about crime. If you look at the actual ridership numbers vs. incidents, the picture is pretty different.
beachbum19722025@reddit
I wish Albuquerque would treat public transportation here like a service for everyone, instead of something they "have to give the poors".
Improvements to how often they run, and extended hours would do wonders for this town.
brubauers@reddit
I just feel like it has so much room for improvement, but then again, a lot in Albuquerque has room for improvement in a few regards and is actively improving which is cool to see
xpunkrockmomx@reddit
I'm a driver in a small city. Trust me, I know.
nerdmon59@reddit
This is the answer. If the buses are frequent enough and go where we need to get, a lot of people use them from all walks of life.
But if the town is smaller with a less developed transit system, usage tends to be the poor and elderly - those who can't afford cars.
xqueenfrostine@reddit
Even lots of populated cities have poorly developed bus systems. I live in a mid sized city (OKC, pop 712k) and taking the bus to work would turn my 12 minute commute by car into a 2h15min commute with at least 40 minutes of that time done on foot.
VeronicaTwangler@reddit
Sounds like Tampa. I would much rather take the bus, but not going to add an extra hour and a half each way to my commute.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
You left out the "or" between "smaller" and "less developed transit system," friend. I'm in Houston, 4th largest city in the US, and our public transit system is crap. Unless you live and work directly on a transit line, it's so slow as to be almost unusable, so this happens in big cities too, not just small ones.
Dangerous-Safe-4336@reddit
Can't afford, or are too disabled to drive.
Mustang46L@reddit
Yep. For me it would require an hour walk to make it to the bus, and that bus only goes north or south between two cities.. it wouldn't get me anywhere useful like the grocery store.
Conscious-Science-60@reddit
Absolutely! In California, taking public transit is very normal in the Bay Area but is definitely more of a poor person thing in LA. Our two major metro areas have wildly different cultures around this.
PhilipAPayne@reddit
This, exactly. I have lived in two cities where a LOT of idle class working folks took the bus most of the time, mostly because the traffic was so bad and parking was at a premium. My mother and brother live in a different city wherein the bus system is seen almost as a service to the homeless.
cranberry_spike@reddit
In Chicago most people take the bus and/or the trains. If they don't, then chances are they're weird.
Admiral52@reddit
It definitely does. I spend a lot of time in SF. I take the bus just so I don’t have to park. Other times I spend in less public transport friendly towns and I drive because the bus will take twice as long
DogsBikesAndMovies@reddit
It definitely depends on the location. Anyone who lives in my neighborhood would be an incredible idiot for paying for a car. The gas, the parking, insurance. I can walk most places and/or ride my bike. If I lived in the suburbs, a car would make more sense.
WillaLane@reddit
Not where I live, the bus stop is over a mile away and no sidewalk to get there. The ones that do are people saving for a car or people who have lost their license
StutzBob@reddit
Eh, it depends on where you are. In major cities, it's more common for everyone. Maybe also in college towns near the campus. But in most mid-size and smaller towns/cities and in rural areas, I would say that the bus is primarily used just by people that need it rather than by everyone. Cars are much preferred and much more convenient.
moonsicklovelight@reddit
really really really depends on the location. i would argue they have an association with the poor even if not only the poor use them, mostly because they’re basically the “better than nothing” option in most cases; they take way longer to reach your location.
Lemon-Leaf-10@reddit
Public transit is used by disabled, homeless, and people with so many DUIs that their driver’s license was taken away.
rickmears101@reddit
I live in Philadelphia and your are correct about the latter, that is a sentiment shared with my community and has since I was a child, only the poor catch public transport. I think it’s being more accepted now though, the older generation def doesn’t like catch Public Transport
No-Resource-5704@reddit
I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area. Lived in the east bay and rode the bus to work in Downtown San Francisco for many years. Eventually rode the BART trains. For a time I had a sales territory where I had to drive. Crossing the Bay Bridge was a pain, especially driving home in the afternoon.
After I moved on to other jobs out in the suburbs, the transit options would not work so I had to drive to work.
Trinx_@reddit
In my hometown, the bus was that way. Only went a few places and took forever. I never rode it.
myOEburner@reddit
Certain east coast cities have okay public transit, and taking a bus is acceptable in some cases. Busses are generally terrible and anyone who can avoid taking a bus will not take a bus. It is generally considered a "poor" mode of transportation.
Subways and light rail are similar to busses, but rail is just different. I don't consider rail to be unacceptable, but I consider having to take a bus as evidence of a person's personal failure to achieve even a basic level of autonomy. Again, that's in most cases. Sometimes a bus might be the only option, but that's a rare scenario.
I took one a few blocks a few months ago just do do it, and it's a terrible way to commute.
littlecloudyskye@reddit
Only in very large metropolises. In the majority of places it is not the norm.
Lexie_Acquara@reddit
I take the bus all the time, I’m not poor but I’m blind so I guess I’m not normal, lol. It depends on your location. In New York, Boston, or San Francisco normal people are taking the bus. But where I grew up in the Midwest, no one but poor or disabled people take the bus. People actually get offended if you choose the bus over accepting a ride from them and the whole concept is foreign to them. They kind of act like you are choosing to sleep on the streets rather than accept an invitation to sleep in their homes. Where I live now, in a city in the Pacific Northwest, it’s a bit more mixed. A lot if poor and homeless, but especially on the trains it will be more ‘normal” everyday working people. There are a lot of park and riders. So whereas I would have to take the bus to get to the train, they will drive their car to a park and ride and then take the train downtown, where I guess parking is expensive. In general, I prefer the bus. Cars feel like steel coffins to me, like you are in a bubble cut off from society. But most people equate cars with their FREEDUM! I get the convenience, but it doesn’t feel like freedom to me.
Efficient_Wheel_6333@reddit
I think it depends on where you live. My hometown has bus stops, but we're involved in the local Metro bus system that operates out of the county seat and I don't even know if that covers the entire county. Not all bus stops are covered; most are just a sign and you stand there, waiting for the bus.
I wouldn't call it 'for the poor' necessarily either; I've never needed to take it, but you can only ride it once a month for free with a library card. The fares are what I'd call fairly inexpensive, from what I've seen, but what I'd call fairly inexpensive and what someone else might call fairly inexpensive are 2 different things.
Ginger630@reddit
In major cities, people of all walks of life take the bus.
Tron_35@reddit
Depends on where you live. My area doesn't have that many busses, I live in a rural area with 1 small city and a few small towns and the rest is all farmland. We have busses but not that many stops, you won't be able to visit most places with the bus. The only people I've known to take busses in my area are poor, because the bus just isn't a super great option, its the just good enough option.
Rose_E_Rotten@reddit
I take the bus because I can't drive and I need to be able to get to work or a grocery store.
Donald_J_Duck65@reddit
No. Where i live, Boston, only the dregs of society take the bus.
Neverendingwebinar@reddit
I used to take the bus, but they only run two runs in the am and two at night. Then there is the issue that my bus picks up at 4:45 next to my work and drops off at the lot at 6:15 to 6:30. I start my night job at 6:00PM. So I drive because I can get to my work at 5:45 usually.
I think in European cities or some bigger US metros people have more reliable public transport and can get to their night jobs from their day jobs without hassle.
No_Double_6063@reddit
I live in a town where the bus is free so it’s very normal here! Most people I know take it, though in other cities it is seen as transport for the poor.
No_Double_6063@reddit
Chapel Hill, NC, mentioning bc we’re a smaller town and a lot of the bus comments are from cities
Ineffable7980x@reddit
Depends on where you live. When I lived in a big city, I took the bus every day. Now that I live in the suburbs, I drive everywhere.
Commercial_Picture28@reddit
I'm in south Florida. Here, only poor people take the bus. Everything is more spread out compared to places like NYC so there's not a whole lot within most people's walking distance. If you can't afford a car, the bus or uber/lyft is the only option. If you have a car, chances are you're never riding the bus. Not to mention the excruciating heat outside waiting for the bus, homeless people, and drug addicts. In NY, sometimes it's quicker to take the bus or just cheaper to live without a car. So you may see people from all classes riding public transportation in NYC.
Radiant-Swimmer-5901@reddit
I used the bus in Reno. It was, let's say, interesting. This was 30 years ago though. American guys openly abusing a Hispanic lady. I smiled at her because the rest of the bus seemed to hate her. Unfortunately I didn't speak Spanish at the time and she had little English.
allegedlydm@reddit
Answers will be very location-based. In my rural hometown area there is no bus except for one that goes into the nearest city once a day and comes back once a day. It takes close to two hours each way, and you don't really take it if you have other options. Most people there have to own a car to survive, because you can't walk to anywhere that sells food or basic necessities unless you live right in town.
In the city I live in now, which is mid-sized and much smaller than the ones you'd think of first when you think of American cities, lots of people do take the bus but it does skew towards low-income people, and this is more true now than it was pre-Covid. Ridership declined significantly here and has stayed down, because lots of people who had the means to do so shifted away from the bus for health safety and have not shifted back. Unfortunately, this resulted in some routes being cut, and now it's harder to take the bus in some parts of the city even if you want to.
Our local infrastructure is also so car-oriented that the bus can present other challenges. In my neighborhood, the bus stop with the most routes is at the bottom of a half-mile busy winding road with no sidewalks or streetlights, so you feel a bit like you're risking your life just to get to the bus. As a result, people who don't have to do that typically don't, reinforcing the economic aspects of who does and doesn't take the bus.
sail4sea@reddit
I live in a rural area. There are no busses except school busses. You pretty much have to drive everywhere. Ill walk 10 blocks to the bar though.
In the nearest city, the busses are pretty good. However, you have to live in the city because the busses dont run between cities.
Pernicious_Possum@reddit
What is a “normal” person?
MadCityVelovangelist@reddit
There is a narrative in this country that you must drive or you're a subhuman. Teens get shamed by their parents and peers if they don't get a license.
What's really sad here is many poor people are forced to drive. They'll make $20,000 a year and be expected to own a car.
Infamous-Dare6792@reddit
Yes normal people take the bus, but in many areas the bus takes 4 times as long to get somewhere vs driving yourself.
AnomalySystem@reddit
More like twice as long and in reality the bus saves you time. Because you can do stuff on the bus
codenameajax67@reddit
When I was in college riding the bus took 90 minutes, driving took 10, riding my bike took 60.
1234578910112@reddit
ur lucky you live in an area where it would only take twice as long
AndrasKrigare@reddit
And in a city, I pretty much always opt for the subway
sean8877@reddit
I saw Abbey Normal on the bus so yes
christine-bitg@reddit
I live in a large city in Texas and ride Metro buses occasionally. Especially if parking would a problem where I'm going, or if I'm meeting my Significant Other somewhere, so we can ride home in one car.
I'm over 70, so I have a card that gives me free rides anywhere that our Metro system goes.
Aggravating_Fishy_98@reddit
Buses are not as wide spread here. I think the vast majority of places don’t have public transportation at all. I feel like movies and tv shows make this stereotype about only poor people taking the bus but truthfully I’ve never encountered that stereotype. It’s more like “oh cool they have buses here so I don’t have to worry about parking or the cost of gas”
mdw2379@reddit
We don't have a good infrastructure for buses to really be feasible for most people. For instance in my town, the only bus is one that takes elderly to doctors appointments. If I want to go to a grocery store or to downtown, there isn't an option. So I have to have a car. Unless you live in on of the top 10 biggest cities in the country, your public transportation probably sucks.
TheSauceOx@reddit
I do, daily
Bitter-Tea3437@reddit
Depends where you live and how much money you have
Plenty_Vanilla_6947@reddit
Local buses inside the cities and from the suburbs to the cities are fine. However, most interstate long distance routes are sketchy at best.
On the east coast, we take trains when we don’t want to drive or fly. However, the train network is not as complete in other parts of the country.
SueNYC1966@reddit
Every day in NYC.
SufficientProject273@reddit
Yes, normal people take the bus and subway where they exist. But more people have cars in the US even in the cities so more often than not the buses and subways have more people on the lower end of the poverty scale.
Sparkle_Rott@reddit
Except in DC. Anyone taking their car into the city doesn’t have a subway stop near them or has employer-sponsored parking. We sometimes win worst traffic in America over LA.
My two coworkers who live in the city only use their cars on rare occasions. None of my coworkers from NYC even know how to drive.
boulevardofdef@reddit
I worked in NYC for 15 years, at three different white-collar jobs in Manhattan office buildings, and I can think of ONE PERSON who drove in.
HKGPhooey@reddit
I’m in the DMV. It’s cheaper and faster for me to drive into DC than to drive to the closest metro station, park and pay for my car, pay the rush hour fees for the Metro both ways. Metro’s just not efficient and cost-effective for me.
killingourbraincells@reddit
Y'all's parking is crazy - and only time I have been there was in January lol.
Remote-Wafer3321@reddit
When I was young my family lived a 10ish minute drive from West Falls Church station but getting there by bus was inconvenient due to how sparse the lines were, so we'd park at the station and take the metro into the city. Fastest and easiest solution! I didn't get on a public bus until I was a teenager going off on my own because even with better access to public transit than the majority of the country, there were (and I believe still are) too few buses to rely on if you had other options.
Sparkle_Rott@reddit
Somehow my husband’s grandmother could get virtually anywhere by public transportation. It was her super power haha
Remote-Wafer3321@reddit
You could definitely do it but my god it took ages!
Sparkle_Rott@reddit
She didn’t have a car or even drive. She as intrepid! haha
quitealargeorangecat@reddit
In New York most people take the subway because the bus gets stuck in traffic.
Head_Razzmatazz7174@reddit
It's almost a requirement to have a car for reliable transport in many areas of the US. Buses and trains only run in large metro areas, and even then there are some areas they don't go. Part of it is that the infrastructure simply isn't available to create rail and bus routes.
SufficientProject273@reddit
I'm 42 and only ever seen a city bus in movies.
Budsygus@reddit
Wait, seriously? I live in Utah which has pretty terrible public transportation outside of SLC but I see city busses almost every day of my life. They don't go where I need them to so I drive a car to work every day, but the busses are definitely there.
SufficientProject273@reddit
I live in the deep south in a very rural area. No need for a city bus since everyone has a vehicle because we all live 30-40 min from "town".
Budsygus@reddit
I figured it must be a rural area, but you've never visited a city with busses before? I'm the first to say I hate big cities, but cities don't have to be all that big to have busses.
I guess I'm just surprised is all.
SufficientProject273@reddit
No. Never have or currently really go anywhere.
Budsygus@reddit
Makes sense then.
Medical_Gift4298@reddit
It's just not practical in a lot of places—the US is huge and so is where we live. Where I grew up it was possible to have school buses that run a route, but city buses just wouldn't be practical given how spread out the town was. Just not enough population density.
As an adult I live in the city and ride the bus all the time. So do my kids.
IlexAquifolia@reddit
It depends on the city. In my city it’s a nightmare to drive downtown during rush hour and parking is hard to come by due to geographic constraints, so many people use public transit to commute to work. It’s a big university city, but the university parking is so limited (lottery only) and expensive that even deans and other leadership types aren’t guaranteed parking (unless you’re at least at a VP level) and will take the bus in.
PabloThePabo@reddit
it depends on where you live and if you even have access to a bus
chesbay7@reddit
It heavily depends on where you live. Buses used to run into most areas of my county when I was young (70's-80's). Now, there's not really much suburban service. Mostly city routes, larger commercial areas and some neighborhoods directly surrounding the city.
Novel_Willingness721@reddit
Where mass transit is good, the riders can be quite diverse. The problem is not all cities (and their suburban sprawl) have good mass transit.
I live in the Denver metro area, and there has been a lot of mass transit build out in the 30 years I’ve lived here. But getting from place to place here can take an hour or more by bus and train (light rail), but only take 15 minutes by car so most will drive instead of taking mass transit. My 30 minute drive commute to work would take 2 hours by bus/train.
InsertDramaHere@reddit
Depends largely on where you live. The US is not like most European countries. We can drive 3 hours to go a few towns over and still be in our own State.
Public transportation is not quick, and not everywhere. If you live in a rural, or even suburban areas sometimes, public transportation simply doesn't exist.
thirstposting69@reddit
Define “normal”. Most bus users are there because they cannot drive, not because they choose to. I’m not aware of any major American city where bus service is more convenient than driving. I recently took my car for service and took the bus home to save on an uber. It took me 15 mins to get to the shop in the car and 40 mins to get home on the bus.
Reduak@reddit
In most smaller cities & toqns, buses are primarily used by people who can't afford a car, so working class poor.
Easy-Tradition-7483@reddit
Poor people are normal people lol. I’m comfortably middle class and I take the bus
ChanFry@reddit
My city of 150,000 only has like six buses and most of the stops are far from residential areas. So no, almost no one takes the bus.
(I have sampled public transportation in other cities — New York, Chicago, and would love to have something like that here.)
RHS1959@reddit
If you are talking about long distance inter-city busses they are not popular in the USA. They exist, you can ride the bus from New York to San Francisco if you want to but most people would consider it an ordeal. Even shorter distances people would rather drive or fly, leaving the bus to those who can’t afford to rent a car or buy a plane ticket.
AlanofAdelaide@reddit
With just my two pre teen daughters I got on a bus in Orlando. Got some strange looks
ImportantSir2131@reddit
Where we live, busses either run every half hour or every hour, depending on the route. I commuted to college on the bus. ( Eyesight can't be corrected to legally drive). Most busses didn't run late at night, and there was limited Sunday service. Saw all sorts of people on the bus, students, blue color, health care, folks in business attire.
sashaxl@reddit
I'm not normal, but can assure you that out eastern europe way, normal people take the bus...mostly under 18 and over 45. If you're in between, you might be...poor... Is that normal or abnormal?
Mapleford@reddit
I live quite comfortably in Pittsburgh and our bus system is so good I’m selling my car. I don’t have to, but I just don’t even use it anymore. It just really depends on the city and how good their infrastructure is.
ali_j_ashraf@reddit
I take it sometimes when I’m going to Oakland, Berkeley, or San Francisco
Zestyclose-Feeling@reddit
Yeah a lot of large cities are run by morons that let crazy violet homeless stay on trains/busses. So people that can afford to not take public transportation don't.
urquhartloch@reddit
Yes. It mostly depends on where that bus is going and how close it is. Its much easier to own a car and go on your own schedule so you arent having to wait on the bus or risk missing it.
Final-Elderberry9162@reddit
“Normal” people.
WTAF.
CasualVox@reddit
I've never lived anywhere that had public transport, but people in large cities regularly ride the bus.
Slow_Savings4489@reddit
I am pretty sure I am normal and I take the bus??
luigiamarcella@reddit
But are you poor? Cause for some reason OP decided that poor people aren’t normal, so…
secretsuperhero@reddit
I am pretty sure I’m not normal and don’t take the bus. I used to, in SF, but Oakland buses suck.
Dangerous-Safe-4336@reddit
I'm pretty sure I'm not normal and I do take the bus now and then.
Drew707@reddit
It's amazing that all nine counties' transportation is allegedly governed by a common entity, yet for me to attend a Niners or Sharks game by public transit, it would involve like four or five different transportation brand and take me like four hours each way.
But, hey, at least they all accept Clipper!
cans-of-swine@reddit
I am pretty sure I am normal and I never take a bus.
kerisugi@reddit
Busses are for everyone, which includes poor and middle class alike. Snobs don't want to mingle with them, and will assume you are poor if you don't drive
MacaroonSad8860@reddit
That’s definitely a stereotype. My European partner thought it too, but I wouldn’t say it’s universally true. I (raised working class, now a medium-high earner) took the bus regularly in Boston, San Francisco, and the town I grew up in. When I visit Austin, TX I take the bus if I’m drinking and can’t drive.
That said, most middle class Americans, even in most big cities, own cars. New York is probably the only statistically significant exception.
Both_Painter_9186@reddit
Major city- it’s for everyone. Anywhere else generally- poor people.
LeSkootch@reddit
My area in South Florida has a pretty developed bus system. We have a commuter rail and a high speed, too. I take the bus. Most of the main routes are pretty full when I'm using them. It's working people mostly. I see a lot of people in scrubs and uniforms. I could get a car financed but then I'd have no money for anything else. It costs me five bucks a day maximum to take as many bus trips as I need. I'm close to stops, too. Walking doesn't exceed ten minutes. I used to live a bit off the routes and would walk maybe twenty to get to a stop.
The only problem I've got with the bus system is the traffic in my area. When I take an Uber if it's raining or I'm running late I really don't even save that much time during certain parts of the day. That's what happens when all the city cares about is developing real estate I guess. Same roads with thousands of more cars daily. Smart planning.
sundancer2788@reddit
Busses are mostly used to commute into cities from the suburbs or to get around the city itself. In my area you can take the bus into NYC, or to locations along the main highway. Anywhere else you need to walk or drive. I live about 40 miles from NYC, about 50 from Philly. Lots of people work in NYC here.
Flux_Inverter@reddit
I've lived in 3 major US cities. Only 1 had a bus system you could use. There is often no bus to take. Most people drive, so low demand for busses, busses only operate in densely populated sections such as downtown. I would have to drive for several miles to find the closest bus stop; the bus does not go where I need to go.
TBH, I've lived in this metro for 4 years with a pop of 2.9M and never have seen a bus except on a college campus (campus bus). Had to look up online to see if we have a bus system. There are 13 bus routes.
barkbarkkrabkrab@reddit
Depends. If you're in the suburbs where most people have cars, you might see poor folks or the elderly taking a bus to the supermarket. In cities, buses are more normal but if their is a subway, the subways is usually slightly more expensive and faster. Also because the bus may have frequent stops, its more commonly taken by a little old lady who really can't walk more than tenth of a mile from the stops, while it wouldn't be uncommon to walk 1/4 -1/2 mile to take a subway.
Proud_Huckleberry_42@reddit
People can take a bus to work where train stations are far or don't take you to where you need to go. And your work is in a city like New York, where traffic is bad and finding parking is worse.
Appropriate_Ad9157@reddit
No
ididreadittoo@reddit
When they are available
Drunken_Economist@reddit
Interestingly enough, public transit commuters in Chicago and SF actually have median incomes higher than those of the overall population for their respective cities
nihcul@reddit
Ages 4-18 I took the bus every week day to school. After that I’ve only been on a bus once when I was visiting in Queens.
eugenesbluegenes@reddit
A reasonably wide socio-economic range ride the bus in my area but it does skew lower income to a certain extent. More so in the non-commute hours.
I rarely ride the bus because it's pretty bikeable around here and anything outside of reasonable bicycle range I'll ride BART (regional rail line) or drive.
KevrobLurker@reddit
Ever bring a bike along on the bus or train, where allowed?
eugenesbluegenes@reddit
Sure, I should have been more clear. Using BART would often entail bringing my bike if my eventual destination was beyond an easy walk from the station. Not really with the bus, since I can ride my bike as fast as the bus goes anyway.
KevrobLurker@reddit
Cool. I used to ride 6 miles to the nearest bus route, put my bike on a rack on the front of the bus, ride into the town where I worked, then get back on the bike. I later moved much closer to that stop.
LocationNo2127@reddit
I swear the questions from people from the UK are getting more and more unhinged. Yes, buses are for normal people, including the poor. What an ignorant question.
TankDestroyerSarg@reddit
If you are IN a major city, there is a lot of bus and/or light rail use by everyone. If you live just outside, there's still a heavily used network. Unfortunately it isn't always available to those who live in certain towns, or has limited-no service between certain towns. My hometown had no bus service other than for the schools. My last residence had bus stops within walking distance of both my home and my work, but only passed by my work twice-a-day, and not anywhere close to the times I needed to use it. Those both were well within the gravity well of one of the largest, most cosmopolitan cities in the country, and should be better served, if using European standards. It's not so much a poor people thing, but an urban people thing. Most of my friends who live in the city don't own or rarely drive their own cars because of the expense of having one in the city, and they can get by just fine 99% of the time without them. Between home, work, shopping, volunteering and entertainment, I have to have a car and don't use the public busses. I will occasionally use the commuter rail and subway, though.
WokeUpInMadrid@reddit
How am I supposed to take my Costco haul home if I take the bus?
KevrobLurker@reddit
Bus to the store. Uber home. About the same price as a delivery.
InevitableRhubarb232@reddit
My kid takes the bus/rail to university to save on gas and parking fees and hassle. It’s only like 25 mins longer and saves quite a bit of $
Bear_necessities96@reddit
Normal people take the bus but the majority don’t, bad stigma, low budget, and terrible urban planning makes commuting by public transportation impossible in most US cities
wild-panda77@reddit
Outside of large cities, bussing is not available.
KevrobLurker@reddit
I only have bussing available when I have a sweety. 😉
I'm retired & junked my last used car a bit ago. I live a half-mile walk from a commuter rail station. I can even take the bus there. I used to walk to the station & take a series of 3 buses on one transfer. Took me 2 hours, total, to get to work. Driving was 30 minutes on local roads. Return bus trips could be longer, but not as long if a coworker dropped me at the station. I often did hybrid bicycle/bus commutes. That was faster, + fitness. Some bus & train systems have equipment to carry a bike with you.
I like to walk a mile to the supermarket, then ride back on the bus or in an Uber, depending on how much I am bringing home. I will often shop online & have food delivered. Walking to the store is my exercise. I can bus it if the weather is bad. I do have a folding cart [granny cart] that fits on the bus.
It is actually easier to take a train into Manhattan from where I am than to bus it.
grrgrrtigergrr@reddit
I’m in Chicago. I regularly use buses. I don’t think I’m poor
DaisyCutter312@reddit
Bus is always the absolute last option for me. They never run on time and traffic is pretty much guaranteed to give me motion sickness.
L > Uber > car > walk > bus
UnusualFruitHammock@reddit
I've seen maybe 1 or 2 ghost busses in the past 4 years using the Ventra app times. They are significantly more reliable since COVID
okeverythingsok@reddit
I take the bus all the time. It's really not that bad, if you are able to avoid certain routes at certain times.
L > walk > bus > bike (when feasible) > car. I use Uber/Lyft a couple times a year max.
grrgrrtigergrr@reddit
I prefer the L, but I take a bus to get there in the colder months
Yggdrasil-@reddit
I will live and die by the 147
genxer@reddit
Mostly correct, in Alabama almost everyone has a car. I did notice in NYC the subway/bus was much more common.
UnusualFruitHammock@reddit
Is this uncommon population wise though? I mean I'm not going to do the math but NYC, Chicago, LA metro pop is 12% of the population where this is common. I know there's tons more cities to throw on there too.
StewReddit2@reddit
Insert Alabama joke 🙃
In fairness, we're not comparing 'Bama with NYC
I'm sure there parts of the STATE of NY where "almost everyone has a car".....because everyone NEEDS a car moreso in X areas of the country.
In Alabama, Mississippi, SC one can't GET any freaking where w/o a car and often the Fill-in-the-blank is Y amount of miles away.
NYC/Chicago/DC way more diverse
Just saying I can absolutely see being in NYC or DC w/o a car but MS/AL ? Please!
LunarVolcano@reddit
From NY state. Full of car dependent suburbs. It would be a major struggle to get by in my hometown without a car.
QuietHovercraft@reddit
Public transit is, on average, much better even in the car centric parts of NY state. I’m upstate and the bus systems are much more robust than almost anything I ran into in the south (grew up in TN and lived in several other southern cities before moving north).
DirkPitt106@reddit
There's an average of over 1 vehicle per capita here. I know quite a few people who don't own cars though. They still don't take the bus, they usually just bum rides off of people if they want to go anywhere.
AttitudeOne4886@reddit
Ah. The true ride share.
genxer@reddit
I'm not surprised. I kept my 2012 Toyota when I got a new one.
FormerAd952@reddit
Depends on the place, the purpose and the person. I try to use public transportation when it makes sense. It can be viewed by some as a poor peoples transportation but it isn't.
overcatastrophe@reddit
What is a 15 minute drive in my city can take 3 hours by bus. One way.
fightingchken81@reddit
I lived in Chicago and took public transportation for a while, it was good during the day, at night it's not horrible, just sometimes sketchy. Once you try to get out of the cities to the burbs public transportation is horrible and the sidewalks are few and far between.
Bored_Accountant999@reddit
Depends on location. I take the bus quite often.
A lot of people in cities that don't have transit like mine have never been on a bus.
desperatehousecat2@reddit
No
SecretRecipe@reddit
For the most part they're for the poor. You'll see some exceptions in places like NYC or San Francisco but even in those cities the busses are dominated by the poor while other folks take rideshare or walk.
xo0O0ox_xo0O0ox@reddit
"Normal" is a myth
devilscabinet@reddit
It depends on where you are. City buses are a common form of transportation in really big cities in some states. They aren't used as widely in places that are more spread out. Taking buses from town to town is much less popular than it used to be.
Icy-Whale-2253@reddit
In New York there isn’t the “shame” other places put on it.
LikelyNotSober@reddit
No, only abnormal people.
JaunxPatrol@reddit
Loosely, in the largest real cities like NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, DC, LA, San Francisco, and Chicago yes, it's normal. Elsewhere, not really
high_on_acrylic@reddit
Poor people are normal people bud, they’re not exactly unicorns lol
Ok-Walk-8040@reddit
It depends on the car situation and location from your job.
TheEarthlyDelight@reddit
No matter where you live, if your area is serviced by a bus, normal people take the bus. I think it should be a rite of passage for every American to take a trip on a greyhound bus. I personally haven’t done it, but the trip lives in my dreams every night.
…also I live in chicago and take the city bus every day
NPHighview@reddit
Depends on the city. Chicago’s mass transit system is used by everyone, as is NYC’s. LA, not so much.
bobd607@reddit
buses in the UK are certainly generally lean to the poorer demographic. Trains are much more common if you can afford them.
WinterRevolutionary6@reddit
I’m really lucky that my job pays for most of my bus fare and that there is a bus line pretty directly from my home to work with decent frequency. Since there are no free parking options at my job, I take the bus to work every day. I do not take the bus for literally any other situation because it’s extremely cumbersome and a huge time sink especially when I’m trying to haul groceries across town.
mikegalos@reddit
Inside cities? Sure
Between cities? Rarely
DV_Jellyfish@reddit
I work for a transit company and we cover 17 counties over 7500 sq miles. Provide about 600k individual rides a year. For a comparison ny city is double that per day.
hsj713@reddit
I'm a normal person that takes the bus on a regular basis, asshole! 🤨
goblin_hipster@reddit
Yes. Anyone takes the bus. Office workers, students, working class, etc.
Dpg2304@reddit
Totally depends on where you live. Where I live (Atlanta, Georgia) public transit is atrocious. I drive everywhere if I can't walk or bike.
SpanishFlamingoPie@reddit
The closest public transportation is almost forty miles from me. The closest town is only four miles, but the roads are dangerous. I used to bike, but I had too many close calls.
DesertWanderlust@reddit
In my city, the "normal people" buses are the commuter lines, which have limited stops. Every once in a while, since we don't have many routes, someone will get on expecting the local service, ring the bell for a stop, and then get angry at the driver when they don't stop. I'd say it happens on about 65% of the trips.
SassyGirl0202@reddit
Yes, normal people who don’t have cars or other means of transportation.
Why would taking the bus, not be normal? Alot of people don’t ever get driver licenses.
Technical-Tear5841@reddit
Always had a car, my area did not have buses. Greyhound did have have a bus terminal, I rode one to the Navy base in the next big city to take my draft physical (I am that old). Only time I ever road a bus.
Only_Presentation758@reddit
Unfortunately not in my mostly suburban smaller city. Here the bus only goes a few locations & times; hardly ever see one. The bus depot looks dirty & is in a very sketchy part of town. I would not feel safe.
capsrock02@reddit
What do you mean by “normal”?
jmc1278999999999@reddit
Where I live it’s only for people who can’t afford cars because no one who could afford a car would put up with how truly terrible our busses are but we’re in a more rural area outside of a major city
jrc_80@reddit
Define normal
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Not unless you're poor
Darmok47@reddit
I used to take the bus to work in Washington DC. I remember at the time President Obama's National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes also took the bus to the WH.
I do remember working one job where my boss lived ten blocks directly uptown from the office so she took the bus home. One night heading home, I saw my boss go the bus stop as usual and I heard my coworker joke about "the poors taking the bus."
It was strange, because his boss made much more than he did. Just shows how ingrained these ideas are in America.
Toriat5144@reddit
No. Anyone takes the bus but if you have a lot of money you might take Ubers.
OG-BigMilky@reddit
I used to when I commuted around PDX. It’s not faster, but it sure is easier than driving in traffic or (shudder) trying to find/pay for parking
draizetrain@reddit
Well first of all, what do you mean by normal?
Prestigious-Name-323@reddit
Buses where I live are just not convenient unless it’s your only option. If I lived in a bigger city with better options, I’d have no problem using public transit.
hail_to_the_beef@reddit
Depends where you live. I took the bus a lot when I was younger but these days in the suburban area I live in, it’s looked down upon as being only for low income people, and the routes are inconvenient and lengthy.
I always enjoyed taking the bus for a night out, so I only had to pay for a taxi or uber one way after hitting the bars.
donuttrackme@reddit
Yes of course.
Enough-Secretary-996@reddit
I've only seen a few city busses in Wichita, and I live in one of the very small surrounding towns where there are no busses.
musical_dragon_cat@reddit
In a congested city, public transit is often easier than driving, but my city is very car-centric, so it's truish that poor people are more likely to take the bus, especially as bus fare here had been nullified a few years ago. Rural areas are near impossible to get around without a vehicle of some kind.
ginger_princess2009@reddit
Where I live, only the poor ride the bus. I rode it for years and more than once I was almost attacked by a man
MuchDevelopment7084@reddit
That's nonsense. A lot of us take the bus. I used to all the time when I lived in the city.
usr_pls@reddit
I am on a bus right now
OH NORMAL PEOPLE
Idk man
PhantomJackalope@reddit
In my city, you only take the bus if you can't afford a car. Mostly because its schedule is unreliable due to traffic delays and waiting at the bus stop is miserable for a large part of the year. The train on the other hand is popular with people of sorts. I take the train every day because it gets around the traffic.
heybud_letsparty@reddit
I stopped taking the bus a few years ago, it gets tiring dealing with crackheads and sketchy people. If the drivers wouldn't allow people like that to stay on the bus then it'd be different, but it seems like every time I use it there was some bullshit to deal with. And I live in a nice area. It almost seemed like tweaks just rode the bus around for something to do.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
They aren't "only for the poor," but if it's not a dense city, bus routes can be impractical. Those who are saying "large" cities have good public transit are incorrect because they're missing the density aspect. A large city with endless miles of sprawl will not have a great bus system, unless you're one of the lucky few whose home and job are on a direct line.
I'm in Houston, 4th largest city in the US, and for the one year I lived on a direct line, I took the bus each day. The next two places I lived, there were no buses that would take me to where I worked, even with a transfer. Where I am now, there are two bus stops close by, but neither will take me to a grocery store. I would have to transfer at least once. Meanwhile, there's a grocery store 2.5 miles away. In nice weather, with enough time, I can just walk there and it will be faster than taking the bus. Or I can just drive if I need to buy a lot of things.
My father, also in Houston, lives out in the suburbs and has a similar dilemma. There's only one bus stop near him and it goes nowhere he needs to go. So he drives.
Urban density, not city size, is what determines how useful public transit is to the average person. A bus that doesn't go where you're going is useless.
FormerlyDK@reddit
In and maybe around major cities, I think, but otherwise no.
WowsrsBowsrsTrousrs@reddit
In many places there are more lower-invome peolle than higher-income ones, so "normal people" are lower-income.
And in many large cities, particularly in the northeast, public transportation is much, much easier to deal with than driving a car in the city.
Healthy_Blueberry_59@reddit
It depends. I take intercity buses a lot (for environmental reasons) and the people are honestly more well off than I thought. You basically cannot buy a ticket without a smartphone and, importantly, a credit card. It's very hard for poor people to get credit and many don't have a bank account for a debit card so even a cheap bus is out of reach. It is mostly students and professionals even between the two poor cities I ride between.
jakerooni@reddit
Depends on where you are. It’s not a viable option for me. I use my car. Bigger cities in town? Sure. Maybe.
EmJayLL@reddit
I am normal ish and take the bus and subway every day. I don’t have a car. This is in San Francisco and also back when I lived in Boston. Both places are easily walkable, too.
ColumbiaWahoo@reddit
In cities? Yes. In rural areas? Not so much.
Alternative-Eye7589@reddit
I would take a bus to work if I could but a 15 minute drive would take about an hour and half and I would have to change my work schedule.
SenseAndSaruman@reddit
Most places (except major cities) don’t have a great bus system.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
Even major cities can have crappy bus systems. Ask me how I know this, I live in Houston. I have two bus stops nearby and neither one will get me to a grocery store without having to first go downtown and transfer. Meanwhile, there's a perfectly good store just 2.5 miles away.
MovieAshamed4140@reddit
America is gigantic. Bus service on a daily basis for work and routine tasks is virtually impossible for most Americans. We live in small town 10 to 25 miles from shops or jobs sometimes more. You just can’t seem to comprehend the size of our country. Sorry.
Square-Wing-6273@reddit
Wait.. so you think that poor people aren't normal?
ASSTORIA92@reddit
Only in nyc.
GypsygirlDC@reddit
There are many other US cities where riding the bus is a very normal and common occurrence
vinyl1earthlink@reddit
In Manhattan, people will usually take the subway instead of the bus, because the bus is too slow. However, in parts of the outer boroughs, the bus is the only choice.
ASSTORIA92@reddit
I live in nyc. Nyc isn't Manhattan wtf
Asleep-Letterhead-16@reddit
Yes; as long as you actually have reliable transit systems.
LastCookie3448@reddit
American mass transit barely exists, is highly inefficient, and in many many places, incredibly unsafe. American transportation is NOTHING like Europe. Our infrastructure is nothing like Europe.
Number-2-Sis@reddit
Busses aren't for the poor, they are for people who live in larger cities,
LunarVolcano@reddit
From my experience, buses are for if you don’t have a car or can’t drive. Sometimes within a city it’s convenient so you don’t have to pay for parking.
I take a bus here because I need to. When I went to London, I took buses because I actually liked to.
LinuxLinus@reddit
Depends on where you live. When I lived in Portland & Minneapolis -- yes, I am a cliché, I am aware -- took the bus all the time. When I lived in Brooklyn (double cliché) I took it occasionally, when a train couldn't get me where I wanted to go. But most of the other places I've lived, the bus was just impossibly slow, didn't get you near where you wanted to go, and/or was full of crazy people.
CornPop30330@reddit
Depends on location. In my area, no, most do not. It is a last resort and has inconvenient stops for what I need. It would take two or three times longer than just driving there.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
So are you saying poor people are not normal? What exactly do you mean by that word? Here is the thing if only poor people took the bus, there would be no busses because it costs money to run them. But if you want please go give someone $5 a day.
Most of the people I see taking the bus are handicapped or don't drive for some reason.
But I am in a car area.
Total_Guard2405@reddit
Only in an emergency
Low_Attention9891@reddit
It depends. It’s relatively normal in college towns, a few very touristy places (definitely not all of them), and a handful of very big cities.
In the suburbs and rural areas, the bus either doesn’t exist or is only used by people who can’t afford a car. In the suburb I grew up in, there’s only one bus route within “walking distance” (40-60 minute walk) that comes every hour.
At my university, it’s a lot more common, the University pays for free on-campus buses and there are plenty of off-campus routes with good frequency. Parking isn’t free and can fill up, so there’s a real disincentive to drive to campus.
10leej@reddit
If one existed, I totally would.
Strange-Employee-520@reddit
San Francisco here, I take the bus with people from all walks of life. I consider myself pretty normal, not low-income, just a transit fan. Also I wouldn't have anywhere to park if I did drive to work. I'd say people with more disposable income will uber/waymo a lot more than others, but usually in addition to transit.
machagogo@reddit
This just isn't true of standard city busses.
CROSS COUNTRY busses, yes.
No one wants to take a 5 day trip for what would be a 3 hour flight.
GreenBeanTM@reddit
Depends on where you live. I took the bus several times to get to dance in high school when my moms job schedule conflicted, but since it runs about once on hour, is rarely on time, and takes twice as long the only reason anyone would constantly use it is because they don’t own a car.
Country-Creepy@reddit
Before living in Honolulu, I rarely used the bus, however the bus system on the island of Oahu is quite robust. My husband and I lived there several years with only one car as I commuted to work on TheBus. Now we live in the DC area so I’m more apt to take the subway if I’m going into the city, but I love buses and public transit in general. I wish we had better public transit throughout the country.
West-Improvement2449@reddit
I take the bus all the time.
wordsznerd@reddit
It’s not about whether or not you can afford a car. It’s whether or not public transportation exists in your area.
Larger cities have buses and trains everywhere. In most of them, parking is expensive and there’s a ton of traffic. Most people will use public transportation, or maybe get an uber if for some reason that will work better at that time. In big cities, public transportation is almost always the most convenient way to travel.
Large cities generally extend their transportation systems partially into the suburbs, too, so that helps. And the northeast has a collection of larger cities that are relatively close together, so there are trains between them.
In smaller cities, there may be a bus or two going around downtown, but that’s it. They won’t get much use because they aren’t convenient either in location and frequency. That’s more the situation where people only use it if they can’t afford a car. Anyone who can afford to not waste the whole day on a single errand will absolutely avoid it.
Everywhere else, there isn’t any local public transportation at all other than school buses. Well, except some towns will maintain a shuttle service that elderly and disabled people can arrange to pick them up for appointments and things. Everyone else needs a car.
For travel between cities there are commercial buses and trains. But there aren’t many access points. The nearest train station to me is over an hour away, and I live in a decently-sized city. Buses are a bit cheaper, but trains can cost as much as or more than a plane.
Raddatatta@reddit
It depends on where. But generally yes as a mode of transportation if you have enough money taking your car or a train or a plane if it's far is more common. There are also long distance busses and ones that cover a region where it's taking you into a nearby city. That second group especially is less common for middle class or rich people to not just take their car for a short distance.
KJHagen@reddit
I live in a rural area with few people. Buses and trains are not an option. They are mainly for urban areas.
LuckyStax@reddit
Taking public transportation is looked down on in many parts of America
Sensitive-Chemical83@reddit
Depends on the city. But usually yes. The bus is for people without other options.
Conceptually I have no issue with taking the bus. I take commuter trains and subways and have 0 issue with either of those.
But every single time I've been on a bus I've seen some shit that I'd rather not.
Sometimes I'll see some shit on the subway, it happens. Maybe 2-5% of my trips I'll see something I don't want to. Commuter rail people are even better behaved. But on the bus it's basically 100% of the time. So a bus is over my tolerance limit for shit.
CantCreateUsernames@reddit
It depends on the location, but most US metropolitan areas are very car-centric and have pretty lousy transit options (especially in suburbs). Because American growth is often dominated by suburban patterns and is designed on the assumption that every adult must own a vehicle, most transit networks are primarily used by transit-dependent populations. In some parts of NY, SF, Portland, Chicago, Seattle, and anywhere with density and a good transit network, it is very common for people to take the bus, metro, or train, depending on what is available.
Nancy6651@reddit
A lot of normal people take the bus, but a lot of normal people also drive.
Grew up and lived in Chicago until about 12 years ago. They have a fairly robust public transit system. However, when I worked in the city, my employer had convenient free parking, so I always drove. Later, I worked in the suburbs, and public transit wasn't available/practical, so I drove (also needed my car for work).
Moved to Phoenix, AZ when we retired. Public transit is kinda here, but nowhere near my house (in Phoenix). From what I've heard, those of us that don't live immediately central city have to have some savvy to allow extra time to make sure to catch a bus or the small light rail system. It's recommended to have a car here.
bourbonandcheese@reddit
If you live in the country or the suburbs you likely never take a city bus.
If you live in a medium-sized city and you're in the upper-middle or above class you likely rarely or never take the bus.
If you live in a medium- or small-sized city and are lower-middle class or below you probably take the bus with frequency.
If you live in one of the largest cities like NY or Chicago and are anything other than upper class you probably take the bus with frequency.
ForestOranges@reddit
I live in a medium sized city (300,000+ people just in the city limits alone) and a lot of lower middle class people still mainly use car. I do know some people where they are/were a one car household to keep costs down.
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
No. You are considered poor if you take the bus.
mykepagan@reddit
Busses and subways inside cities are used often enough. I work in NYC on a regular basis and my car does not cross theHudson River because using the subway is MUCH faster.
In between cities? Those buses have a stigma in the USA. Part of the problem is that they take forever to get to the destination, because they make a lot of stops.
Once I was flying from London to NYC, and the (British) woman sitting next to me asked how to get to the bus station. When she said she was going to Dallas, the look of horror on my face must have shocked her. NYC->Dallas by bus would take maybe 3 *DAYS* (maybe more), and you’d be sitting next to a schizophrenic homeless person most of the way.
msspider66@reddit
When I lived in Brooklyn, I took the bus fairly regularly.
I currently live in metro Detroit. There are busses here but I have never taken one. I do work from home
waynofish@reddit
Many of us like our independence. Even though I work for myself, I still have a schedule even though it is not a pinpoint time. A bus is pinpoint, to the minute (or should be). It goes from a scheduled point A to point B.
F that. I'm on my own terms and many are like me. If I want to stop at store A and get a coffee, I will. Perhaps tomorrow I'll stop at store B and get a coke. Next day, I may be running a bit later then I wanted so I skip it all. The next day I may just say, damn I'm too lazy to cook so I'll go to a pizza joint. Next day after work, I may just feel the urge to listen to the radio, point the truck some direction and just go to no destination but an hour or two "detour" before going home.
F the bus.
Many, many, many are like me.
Olderpostie@reddit
I have found in Miami a lot of definitely abnormal riders. All too many are pushing their choice of music or religious faith on fellow passengers. There seems to be no sense of common or enforced discipline among riders. I am sure it must even annoy the drivers, so I don't know why they are so lax in enforcing norms.
Outside_Narwhal3784@reddit
Define “normal”.
oblue1023@reddit
People are talking about big cities having public transportation more broadly used (true), but something else to consider is college towns. I’ve met people who never used a bus until they went to college. I grew up in a small college town that had a pretty strong bus service since a lot of students don’t/can’t have a car. If we didn’t have a college the size we did, we would not have had as strong of a public transit option. I live in another college town that’s a bigger city now and work at the university. The buses in the morning are usually stuffed with students and other university staff as well as hospital staff. We’re a healthy mix of backgrounds and socioeconomic statuses.
I hate driving and especially parking, so I will take the public transit option if possible. I live car free in my current city. It does limit me to some extent because we aren’t a large city with quite the public transit options available to cities like Chicago or nyc. But it’s worth it to me. I did live temporarily in a town that did not have a college, and if I didn’t have a car there was no way I could get to work (the bus that existed did not go there and I would have had to walk from the closest stop alongside a highway with no sidewalks to get there).
ForestOranges@reddit
I live in a city, but like many cities in the US our bus service isn’t t the best. Even in rush hour traffic it’s quicker for me to drive to work instead of using public transportation. I do take it to the airport though to avoid paying for parking. It turns 17 minute drive into a trip that takes between 55 mins to and 1 hour 20 mins depending on how far I’m willing to walk and what routes are running at that time.
RhinoPillMan@reddit
What do you mean by “normal people”? Do you not see working class people as “normal”?
bigedthebad@reddit
I used to take the bus home from work on occasion. There was always 10 or so regulars I would see every time but there was also always some nut job.
Always.
pikkdogs@reddit
Yeah. Pretty much. In most cities and towns everyone has a car and drives instead.
tiger0204@reddit
I can drive to work in about 25 minutes. To take the bus I'd need to drive 21 minutes to the nearest stop, park my car at a convenience store, then transfer through four different routes/lines to end up at the stop nearest to my office. That stop would still require a 1.2 kilometer walk at the end.
Maybeitsmeraving@reddit
I've been taking the bus most of my life in places with better and worse bus availability. Even in the worst served areas, the majority of people on the bus are "normal." In places wirh shit bus service they're usually just poor. Every bus system gets a minor percentage of homeless or mentally ill riders, but nowhere have I found them to be the majority.
Blucola333@reddit
I do, but it’s questionable if I’m considered normal. 😏
Fappy_as_a_Clam@reddit
Only if you absolutely have to, like no other options at all.
Relatively few people do it otherwise
WokeUpIAmStillAlive@reddit
Not if they can avoid it... they let anyone on which is fine until its the dude that pisses himself and other issues sitting beside you... also they dont really clean then very often.
doubtinggull@reddit
Yes
Thauros@reddit
i live in pittsburgh so a real city but hardly nyc or chicago, work downtown where there there is no free parking and live close to a busway (basically a train line with stations only with a bus on a road) that gets me to work in 10 minutes.
the east end has many of the more affluent neighborhoods of pittsburgh and there's plenty of bus commuters in them.
ElijahNSRose@reddit
Buses are not available for most commutes.
The only real exception is school bus. Because nearly a century ago providing them became required by law.
StumbleThenRise@reddit
I live in Minneapolis. Live in the southern part of the city. Half a block to my nearest bus stop. Usually always take the bus whenever I have to go into the office downtown. It's just less hassle than driving and beats paying $27 to park at my building.
Responsible-Fun4303@reddit
Depends where you live. When I lived in the suburbs and worked downtown or a big city I took the bus daily to work. But now there are not busses where I live (small ruralish town).
Aggravating_Bend_622@reddit
It's interesting how you all always "hear" these weird annoying stereotypes about Americans 😂
SisterShiningRailGun@reddit
Dividing people into "poor" and "normal" is certainly a choice.
Phish_2000@reddit
Yes. If public transportation is convenient, why wouldn’t you use it?
Capital_Cat21211@reddit
Well you've read this thread. It appears that a lot of people just don't want to be around the poors.
Capital_Cat21211@reddit
I'm normal I guess. A white collar healthcare professional. And I started taking the bus to work, really on a whim, 2 years ago. Now I wonder why I ever drove at all. It is way convenient, and I just listen to my podcasts all the way to work.
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
Would a normal person stand out in the beating sun (or freezing cold), not knowing when a their transportation might show up?
It is a hard way to live and the only times in my life when I used the bus were times when I was broke and desperate.
AgileSurprise1966@reddit
In a dense urban area, everyone will use the bus once in a while because even wealthy people don't necessarily keep a car in the city, and for a short trip the bus might be convenient. Long haul bus rides in the suburbs for commuting or for daily tasks, or for cross country trips ( alas our passenger train system is vestigial) are more of a sign that you are hard up because everyone that possibly can has a car as it is a necessity to get basic life things done out there.
Space-Robot@reddit
Normal people are poor here
BellStriking5132@reddit
In my American city, taking the bus vs driving is 3x as long of a commute. I just can’t give up that much time. I have a family that needs me home. Adding over 1 1/2 in daily commute time just doesn’t make sense. But I wish I could take public transport with only a minimal increase in commute time.
Justmakethemoney@reddit
It depends on location, where you’re going, etc.
When I lived in Chicago, I mostly got around using public transportation unless I was leaving the city or would be moving more stuff than I could comfortably carry (groceries, etc). Most major cities have good public transportation.
Now I live in a bedroom community of a city of <100,000. The bus doesn’t even come to the town where I live, and even in the city the service isn’t great. So if you have a license and the means to get a car, you get a car and drive.
seifd@reddit
I ride the bus and I'm certainly not normal!
SabresBills69@reddit
it depends on your location. in my area I regularly take a bus.
1 most school district use school buses to transport kids
large metro cities have very good bus systems that people use ( many also have light rail/ subway systems that the buses feed or complement).
secondary metro areas the buses are decent in parts but poor/ useless in other parts. you might have bus routes to downtown/ job centers but they aren’t good if you want to go to other places because you might have to do 3 buses+ wait times.
GrouchyMushroom3828@reddit
People prefer trains where available but normal people do ride buses too.
Traditional_Trust418@reddit
If they live in a bigger city they might. There is no bus system where I live so, poor or rich, you aren't riding the bus
Chemicaldogg@reddit
I live in the suburbs of Minneapolis and only very poor people take the bus. Also, whenever I see a bus it’s at least 90% empty. Public transit here is vastly inferior to driving, so anyone who can afford a car and is capable of driving has one.
FoolhardyBastard@reddit
I love taking the bus. I really enjoy exploring the public transit options when I visit new cities.
ReferenceCreative510@reddit
I've taken the bus periodically if I'm not in a rush to go somewhere.
somecow@reddit
If available, sure. Especially when going to get drunk, or just don’t feel like driving and don’t mind them taking forever.
Notorious for being late, or just not showing up at all. But yup. Gonna be waiting in traffic anyway, why not.
robotfindsme@reddit
Depends greatly on the city. In New York almost everyone uses the subway and the buses. In Washington DC all classes use the Metro (subway), I don't know about the buses. In Cleveland most of the people who take a bus more than once a week do so because they can't afford a car. Also, lot of college towns have buses that are open to the public but heavily used by students.
Ryan1869@reddit
I think it depends a lot on where you live, some places are just so spread out, it's hard to use the bus. I like to when going into the city, but a lot of places it's a choice between a 30 min drive in my car or a 90 min bus ride with 3 transfers. Car culture is just so much more a part of the city design here.
dontlookback76@reddit
Depends on the city. Las Vegas has a fairly decent bus service. New York city is top notch from what I understand.
andr_wr@reddit
Depends on the metropolitan area - we are 50 states with very different policies about transportation investments, and in total we have \~400 "metropolitan areas" that all treat public transit very differently.
nekomeowohio@reddit
Some people who live in the city or area that is served will take bus to save money. A lot of rider in my area are either poor or can't drive so. So downtown office worker take the bus to save on high parking cost downtown and some people take them for going to game or concert as well
langstonfleury@reddit
I really tried to take public transportation when I lived in L.A. I was commuting over 3 hours just to go from the valley to Washington/LaBrea and back which was the redline subway and two buses.
I will never take public transportation in the U.S. again. One because it takes forever and two I don’t want to end up assaulted or murdered by the crazies who ride around on it all day. If it were up to me I would scrap all public transportation so we don’t have to deal with the crime around bus stops as well.
KieraJacque@reddit
Most cities have really shitty public transit and rural locations it’s non existent. I live in Kansas City and the amount of bus routes are minimal. Even when I lived in Pittsburgh with 190+ public transportation routes I worked in what they called zone 2 so public transportation was a struggle to work. There were no bus routes to my neighborhood after rush hour so I would have to walk a few miles on unlit streets home (and if you know what the hills are like in Pittsburgh , this was no easy feat) after working on my feet all night.
Js987@reddit
You’ll absolutely see middle class folks using the bus in cities like NYC and DC where commuting by car is inconvenient, but in most places generally no, as the bus in most cities is markedly slower than just driving, and has safety concerns (both perceived and real), so in most places if folks can afford to drive they do.
molotovzav@reddit
Why aren't poor people normal?
Queasy-Extension6465@reddit
Statistically I'd say abnormal people take the bus. This is based on more people driving cars.
CycadelicSparkles@reddit
Only abnormal people take the bus. If you're not at least a 4.9 on the National Weirdness Scale, they don't let you on.
CycadelicSparkles@reddit
In seriousness, though, it genuinely just depends if there is a bus and it goes where you need to go. My town has a free bus and I do use it and it is awesome. I have a car.
Creepy-Floor-1745@reddit
I would need to walk a few miles to get to a bus and that just has one drop off, 45 miles away
Busses don’t exist for many, many Americans. If you need a bus, your housing options are limited to urban neighborhoods in general
baalroo@reddit
Not in my part of the country, no. Here, public transport is the absolute last resort.
A 20 minute drive with take you 1-2 hours on public transport.
Judgy-Introvert@reddit
I take the bus to and from work every week day. I like to think of myself as fairly normal.
rwv2055@reddit
We don't have busses where I live.
DJPaige01@reddit
Even if I had a hazmat suit complete with gloves and face shield, you couldn't pay me to take a public bus.
2PlasticLobsters@reddit
It's very common in the DC area. A lot of people take a bus to the Metro, so they don't have to deal with parking at the station & traffic along the way. I did this for a long time, till they made major cutbacks to the routes, and eliminated 2 of the 3 lines in my neighborhood. That made things too much of a hassle, and took 3x as long. I drove in after that.
There are also "commuter bus" lines in some of the more distant suburbs. These usually have park & ride lots, because they don't make many stops in neighborhoods. They're more like an express line, because after certain points, they don't make many stops to let people out. Usually it's just a few major intersections or Metro stations.
I think in most congested areas, you'll find that lots of regular people use the bus. Even if we can afford to drive, it's often more trouble than it's worth.
TheMarshmallowFairy@reddit
It depends where you are in the country. In very large metro areas, public transportation is relatively well designed and accessible to most. I lived in Denver about 20 years ago and needed to use the bus a few times; I lived fairly close to a bus line on one of the busiest streets, so it was easy enough, but I’m not sure if that can be said for the rest of the city.
But in the majority of the country, IF public transportation is even available, it’s often a large hassle (not many stops or lines so you may have to walk long distances, infrequent stops so if you miss the one you wanted you end up waiting a long time, etc) so if you’re able to buy and maintain a car, that ends up being better overall. But those cost money.
In my hometown, the bus only ran from 7am-6pm (and not at all on weekends) so if you worked anything but a regular 8-5, you probably weren’t able to use it for both getting to and from work. And about half the town commuted to the bigger city 30 minutes away; there was a bus line that ran back and forth but it ran the same hours and there was only 1 bus every 30 minutes.
I remember being like 6 and my stepmom not having her license and we needed to use the bus when my dad was gone for a few weeks for work. We’d walk about a mile and a half to the closest stop, she’d have to carry my brother up the steps in his stroller (or take him out and try to carry both him and the stroller), we’d wait however long it was until we got to the closest stop to the grocery store, walk another 1/2 mile or so to the store, and then she could only get enough groceries for her to be able to carry them home. Then the reverse going home, except this time she also had groceries to wrangle trying to get back on and off the bus. In all, it was probably at least 2 hours for only 2-3 days of food. Maybe even 3 hours (little concept of time at that age but we usually went shortly after breakfast and she’d make lunch when we got home). When she was finally able to overcome her anxiety and get her license, that entire process went down to like 1/2 hour or so (and less frequently since she could get a weeks worth of food or more).
IPreferDiamonds@reddit
I have never taken the bus and would never take a bus.
DepthPuzzleheaded494@reddit
Yes, normal people take all forms of public transit. Also poor people are normal people too but people of all wealth status take the bus and subway here.
saberlight81@reddit
Very location dependent. I would guess that in most smaller to midsized cities this is broadly true. I grew up being told that buses were a good place to get robbed, and still today am of the perception that nobody who can afford to own a car ever takes the bus (unless they are traveling to NYC or something).
That said though, in larger, denser cities with better transit and pedestrian infrastructure, taking the bus is more normalized across social classes, mostly because not owning a car is more normalized across social classes.
revjor@reddit
I do, but I’m lucky to live somewhere with reliable buses.
Dave_A480@reddit
7% of the US population uses something other than a single occupant personal vehicle for transportation.
And a huge chunk of that 7% lives in NYC.
Bus service in most of the US is usually people too poor or disabled to drive a car.
Key_Reaction_5327@reddit
Buses are just less convenient and slower most of the time here (depends, but in general). Plenty of people do take them, but if you have the ability to take a more convenient option like your own car or a better scheduled and faster train, then you would do that. I don't recall much judgment about the buses themselves, it's just that they're largely not worth it.
SmokinSkinWagon@reddit
Entirely depends on where you live. Most places that aren’t major cities will not have adequate bus service
No_One113812@reddit
“Normal people” take the bus in major cities with robust and well funded public transportation networks + their immediate suburbs. In all other contexts, it tends to be unhoused, impoverished, and/or drug addicted individuals.
Mammoth_Ad_4806@reddit
Depends. I live in a very car-dependent area, where public transportation is limited. The bus is mainly used by people who don’t or can’t drive, or don’t own a car. It’s also commonly used by students because the fare is only $1 for them.
LettuceInfamous5030@reddit
Depends on region and cities. For example, in the northeast US you’ll find more people of all demographics taking buses and public transit especially into work.
Also poor people are “normal.”
Many people on large US cities don’t have cars or seldomly use their cars. I live in a large east coast city with access to buses , subways and trains so me and my partner only have one car. We usually only use it once or twice per week.
NetheriteTiara@reddit
Depends on the city. DC, incredibly normal. New York - more people take the subways but people use the bus depending on route. Los Angeles - besides commuter specific busses (beach towns to downtown only for rush hours) - mostly lower-income on the busses and basically only low income for the train/subways. NorCal has trains that lots of people use but it covers more ground. No clue about busses there.
Not as sure about other cities.
Affectionate-Gap8869@reddit
In the southern states buses became a hot button due to the Jim Crow era. Our Black citizens stopped riding the buses to force attention to their lack of freedoms. When the buses were integrated the southern whites would no longer ride them because they might end up rubbing elbows with a black person. In fact the Alabama legislature passed a law that denied using tax dollars for inner city transportation. This is why southern states have such dismal transportation options other than driving. There are still pockets of isolation where citizens have no job because they lack transportation.
RewardFluid7316@reddit
Yes.
Gutcheck21@reddit
City yes suburbs no
SkyPesos@reddit
If the buses are frequent enough and get people where they want to go to, yes. It doesn’t have to be in a big city. I’m in a college town in the middle of nowhere, and see a lot of people that don’t look like students use the bus here.
pleasesayitaintsooo@reddit
No. Watch the scene from always sunny where Dee takes the bus. Nobody takes the bus if they have a car unless it’s somewhere like NYC
notacrookshank@reddit
Unfortunately, yes. It’s either take the bus to work or pay $22 a day for parking.
pastrymom@reddit
This statement is true for where I am
ITrCool@reddit
Depends on the city. In average-sized cities and towns where most folks have cars, it might be stereotypically viewed as the “poor man’s” transportation, but in larger cities like Chicago or LA or whatever still uses busses, they’re just viewed as common transport options.
Bluemonogi@reddit
Where I grew up it was looked down on to use public buses. There was nothing preventing people from taking buses but having a car was more common. I took the bus sometimes to get to work because I did not have a car. People riding the bus were ordinary- going to work, going shopping, going to school.
Where I live now there are no buses and people think you are weird if you walk places. Most people have cars even if you are poor.
SockSock81219@reddit
I'm middle class, am perfectly average in most every way, don't live near a major metro area, and I used to take the bus almost every day to get to work before COVID. My partner and I only have one car, the bus has always been less expensive than gas, and the schedule usually worked with my work schedule. So I'd take it if I could get to the bus stop on time.
There were usually some down-on-their-luck or elderly folks, but also other young professionals, students, a good mix. Definitely depends on your area, but taking the bus was about as normal as bicycling to work.
chameleonsEverywhere@reddit
Heavily depends on location for how many regular people actually ride the bus, but the negative connotation is absolutely there especially among white suburban people. The bus is "dangerous" and only for the poors and minorities.
I've had to argue with some of my relatives when they learn that I take public transit because they don't want me exposed to the types of people who ride the bus. I explain to them, I AM the type of people who ride the bus, but they still think they know better.
Then this perception can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If the bus is dangerous or shameful, then only people with no other option ride it. Who is stuck with no option but to ride the bus? Poor people and those on the fringes of society (for all sorts of reasons - drug addicts, homeless, mentally ill, people without family or friends who could drive them places).
CosyBeluga@reddit
Only poor, disabled and people who work/hangout in areas without parking use the bus for the most part.
Ok-Equivalent8260@reddit
I never take the bus (Seattle)
Who_coulditbe@reddit
If it was fast and easy it would be great. But for me, it's 4.5 miles to walk to the nearest bus stop. The walk alone makes it impractical, but assuming I could get to the bus stop it would take another hour to get to my workplace. I can drive door to door in 25 minutes.
Pitiful_Bunch_2290@reddit
No, it's strictly for abnormal people.
gnirpss@reddit
Depends on location, but in many places, yes. I work in a government legal office in a small city in the Northwest US. I take the bus to work every day, as do several of the lawyers in my office, including the big boss. It's a great way to avoid paying crazy fees from parking downtown every day.
InterviewLeast882@reddit
In Chicago they do. In St. Louis not so much.
bangbangracer@reddit
Everyone in Chicago will ride the bus or train at some point. Not so true in Dallas. It's pretty variable.
Outside of the cities, there really aren't buses.
iowanaquarist@reddit
What bus? The school bus? Yes, school kids that live more than a mile and a half away do.
GrowlingAtTheWorld@reddit
No bus in my town unless you are talking about a cross country bus like greyhound. I rode the bus when i visited Orlando, they seemed clean and tidy, it was just me and some maids from the hotels. I rode the bus a couple times in my college town from the airport to school and the bus driver was so nice she called ahead to make sure the bus I had to catch from the mall to the university would wait for me cause she was running a tad late.
WickedRavyn94@reddit
Yup
swfwtqia@reddit
Depends where you live. Here in Phoenix, the bus options aren’t that great. I can either drive 20 minutes or walk/take the bus and it will take 1-1.5 hrs. I would say normal people don’t take it unless they are in downtown Phoenix where the stops are a lot closer and the routes make sense.
Honeybee3674@reddit
We live in a middle sized city in Michigan. Michigan is the home of the Big 3 auto makers, which killed most major public transportation initiatives. Maybe Detroit is an exception?
My city has a bus system that is clunky and slow. The public school system uses the bus system to transport high school kids, and it's a PITA. It takes so long to get to school, we just drive our kids instead (because teens need that extra sleep). They have taken it home when they don't need to be somewhere in a timely fashion. There's a great free shuttle for getting around downtown, but not out to the hubs.y oldest used the bus the most, but found himself stranded a couple times because of the limited bus schedule. For example, he took the bus to karate from school, but didn't realize that bus stop wasn't served after 8pm, so we had to come pick him up. Same issue with staying at a friend's house...he made plans to come home on a particular route, but then found out it didn't run on the weekend. So, "regular" people might ride a particular consistent route that works, but it isn't great for getting to different locations, like doctors appointment, etc. And you have to plan at least an hour to get anywhere.
West_Guidance2167@reddit
I live in the suburbs, it would be an hour walk to the nearest bus stop.
Commercial-Land-6806@reddit
Of course normal people take the bus. The problem is that like probably 90% of the US has a horrible bus system if they have one at all. So most of us cannot make use of it. Like where I live there is no real proper bus stops and one would have to wait over an hour for a bus to show up and it only goes to a handful of locations. It's super inconvenient.
JayNotAtAll@reddit
It depends on the city. Some cities, public transit is considered something that poor people do. In others, everyone from homeless people to directors ride public transit (I once saw a director at my company on the train).
VanillaCavendish@reddit
Depends on where you are. The USA is a big, diverse country. Where I live now, buses stop running about 4 p.m. and don’t run at all on Sundays. Here, the bus is for people too poor or too disabled to drive. But in Philadelphia, it’s perfectly normal.
DessertFlowerz@reddit
I make 500k/year and am writing this from the city bus. There is urban life in America.
judgingA-holes@reddit
There is no bus system where I live.
afternoondlight@reddit
If you live in a large metro area with a good transit system like Chicago and New York it’s totally normal, but smaller cities and rural areas often have unreliable transit systems or none at all.
BookLuvr7@reddit
It depends on the public transportation in the area, but yes. Sadly many areas don't have a great public transport system
Global-Biscotti-9547@reddit
We loved using the bus when we lived on Oahu.
Cpt_Rossi@reddit
Taking the bus around a city is normal taking a bus across the country is scary.
Ok_Anything_9871@reddit
I suspect the person by person equation isn't really that different. People get public transport when it is easier, cheaper, faster or more convenient in some way than driving; unless they don't have a car and then they have to.
In many European and Asian cities public transport is often all of those things so lots of people (at all income levels) take it some or all of the time. In other parts of Europe driving is much more the norm.
In parts of the US with good public transport, more people use it. But in a lot of the US getting almost anywhere by public transport is lengthy and inconvenient - so the only people who take it are those who can't drive instead, maybe because they can't afford the upfront cost of a car.
brinazee@reddit
Depends on the city. If public transit is well implemented, yes.
TokyoDrifblim@reddit
Extremely location dependent
VisionAri_VA@reddit
Untrue. People in large, urban areas routinely use public
I was 21 when I got my first car because I didn’t need one until I got a job in the suburbs. I could still take the bus but now that I don’t live in the big city anymore, getting to where I’m going would just take too long (3 hrs to work vs 40 minutes by car).
Eric848448@reddit
In Chicago, yes absolutely.
In Indianapolis, where I grew up, no.
CountChoculasGhost@reddit
Only a handful of big cities have serviceable public transit.
In those cities, yes, “normal” people take the bus.
Reference_Freak@reddit
Depends on where you live.
In more urban areas with comprehensive mass transit, almost everyone will take the bus at some point in their lives.
In car-centric communities with poor mass transit (too few options with minimal road and time coverage) only people who can’t afford a car or can’t otherwise drive take the bus. Most people who choose to live in the communities never step on their local bus.
ALoungerAtTheClubs@reddit
Some places, it's totally normal. In my area, it's mostly the inconvenient, last-resort option and driving is normal.
incazteca12345@reddit
I take the bus and train here in Chicago. I've seen plenty of guys sporting Rolexes on the blue line. I don't think they'd be considered poor.
RobotShlomo@reddit
Unlike Europe, outside of large cities like New York, public transit is primarily utilized by the poor in many cities, and it doesn't take you a lot of places you need to go very efficiently. And the wealthy tend to like it that way.
Neenknits@reddit
In Boston and Cambridge, yes. Around airports and Disney, yes. In suburbs, council on aging supplies buses for those who no longer drive. Special events have satellite parking with buses. Buses between cities? Not a chance. Not taking those! Unless it’s a group tour! You hire a bus JUST for your group. Those are fun.
Don’t forget, many of our cities are far apart. Boston MA and Houston Tx are as far apart as London and Libya or Russia. My daughter lives as far from me as London is to Berlin. There isn’t a train. Up and down the east coast is a good train line, Boston to NYC to DC. Other than that, there are some crappy tracks shared with freight. Efficient for moving freight. Crap for people.
You can take busses, through. Simon and Garfunkel have a song, “America” about taking the bus.
PapaTua@reddit
It really depends on where you live as good public transit is deployed really unevenly.
8n most cities public transit is commonly used by everyone. In most suburbs/rural areas, it's mostly for the poor, of it exists at all.
1235813213455_1@reddit
Where I live even poor people don't use the bus. I'm walking before I take a bus and if it's too far to walk it's too far to take the bus. Our buses suck.
Blue387@reddit
I no longer own a car and take the bus and subways here, it's also faster than waiting in traffic and better than paying the $9 congestion pricing fee to enter Manhattan
MsSamm@reddit
On Staten Island, a borough of NYC, busses are for the poor. Or students going to school. The one exception is commuting into the city for work. Then you take the ferry and subway, or you take an express bus into the city.
Busses have to travel mostly one or two lane streets. I had just started a job on Staten Island, 6.6 miles away from my house, but my car needed fixing so I took the bus for a week or two. It took 2 hours 20 minutes to get to work, more to walk from the bus stop.
A coworker drove in from New Hope Pennsylvania in the same amount of time. When my car was back in service getting to work by car took 20-25 minutes.
JuanaBlanca@reddit
The existing infrastructure for public transportation varies wildly. In Portland, lots of people take the bus and train. When I lived in south Florida, I would get people driving my and staring at me as I waited for the bus, I assume because I didn't "look poor".
Bianchibike@reddit
I think I am pretty normal, and i uses busses and train far more than car. ( So yes, normal people use busses)
Meowmeowmeow31@reddit
This very much depends on the location.
Junior_Ad_7613@reddit
I would take the bus a lot more often if it did not take three different buses to get where I go regularly. But this week they FINALLY opened the light rail stop near me, so I envision a lot more trips on public transportation!
book81able@reddit
You get to ride over the floating bridge?
Junior_Ad_7613@reddit
YES!!
Gini555@reddit
This totally depends on where you live. Most areas of the US do not have good mass-transit options, so only the poor use them. Anyone who doesn't want to walk a few miles after arriving "near" their destination, will take a car.
jackt-up@reddit
Almost all of us have cars
eskeitit@reddit
Not only that, the infrastructure makes it easier and faster to get around with a car
FezzesnPonds@reddit
laughs in Boston
OhioTry@reddit
Some large East Coast cities are the exceptions that prove the rule.
MobileOrdinary6827@reddit
There is no bus system in my home state
DadPuncher69@reddit
In Chicago you see all kinds of people on the bus and train. It's the easiest way to get around for a lot of people.
HeyPurityItsMeAgain@reddit
It depends where you live. Not where I live. I was poor, they aren't for the poor, they are for criminals.
brak-0666@reddit
In big cities with robust public transit systems, most people take buses and trains. In places that are more built around driving, the only people who take the bus are people who don't have cars.
like_shae_buttah@reddit
Yes. Americans are literally like everyone else
outsideskyy@reddit
Correct. Most people have cars here.
Unusual_Memory3133@reddit
I take the bus and am not poor. I have vision problems that make me unable to drive. Nice profiling.
OhioTry@reddit
"The poor" is shorthand for "people who don't have any other choice".
NefariousnessSea9761@reddit
The person you replied to is right and there's sources to back it up (https://www.forbes.com/advisor/car-insurance/car-ownership-statistics/). They said most, not all.
Bootmacher@reddit
Some people in my city (Houston), take a park & ride if they work downtown. They drive their cars to a suburban node, then board busses for the downtown stops. I've done it for weekday baseball games, but they don't even do that for nights or weekends.
My wife can't physically drive because she has 20/200 vision, so she qualifies for a program called MetroLift, where they will get her to/from certain places within the city by appointment.
mmbg78@reddit
59 and Hillcroft
Bootmacher@reddit
What?
mmbg78@reddit
The park and ride is there that I take
Bootmacher@reddit
Ah. I've used the Northwest, which is I think the only one in the city limits of another city. Jersey Village isn't a member of Metro, but still leases the land for a park & ride to them.
mmbg78@reddit
Driving even to freaking HEB becoming is a chore anymore lol so many people (sugar land)
AllPeopleAreStupid@reddit
Most people don't want to have to deal with the mental illness that rides our busses here.
Least-Woodpecker-569@reddit
I live in Seattle area, and I see plenty of Amazon, Meta, Google, and Microsoft employees commuting across the lake. I don’t know whether they are considered normal (I know too many to say that, and once belonged to that crowd myself), but that is a fact.
Riker_Omega_Three@reddit
Buses aren't specifically for the poor
However, people without their own cars are your typical bus riders
In the US, not having a car is not a viable thing for the vast majority of the population
Where I live, there is no reliable bus service
If you don't own a car, you don't get to work
The US is built around owning a vehicle
Only is heavily populated cities will you find reliable public transportation
pinniped90@reddit
I lived in Chicago for a few years. Used bus, Metra, and "L" regularly.
All were full of people going to work or going out or whatever. There was no stigma with using transit.
The trains were always preferred over buses just because of traffic and timeliness but I wasn't afraid to hop on a bus if that's what the journey required.
RemoteVersion838@reddit
Unless you're in a large city, North America is a car driven culture. A lot of laws favor car culture to line the pockets of big oil and emmission laws favor bigger vehicles. Transit is also less reliable and fuel is 1/2 the price of what it is in Europe so its easy to own a car.
People in major cities often don't have a car, mostly because its incredibly expensive to find and pay for parking.
hakumiogin@reddit
It varies a lot, pretty much city by city. A robust bus system is used by everyone. If its not good, then it's going to only be used by people who have no other options, who are typically poor people.
But I suppose there is definitely a somewhat-universal perception that public buses are for poor people. I live in NYC, and even though we have a great bus system, some people here who ride the subway daily would balk at the idea of riding the bus.
sagegreenpaint78@reddit
You mean the Loser-Cruiser?
Throwaway_anon-765@reddit
America is vastly spread out, and most areas are not built with bus or train routes in mind. The bigger cities have them, and are easy enough to use. But, outside of the cities, everything is so spread out, there aren’t clear routes, and there is no rail system. Where I live (suburbs), I’d have to walk about 3 miles to get to a bus stop, and the bus only travels on the main roads here. If I wanted to go anywhere, I’d have to walk quite a long way, to take a short bus, to walk a lot more. It’s not super feasible or efficient. Where I live, most people have cars for this exact reason. As a result, lower income families/people tend to rely on public transport, since it’s cheaper than owning and maintaining a vehicle. When I’m in the city, I do take subways sometimes. It really depends on where you live.
Plus, the trains in this country aren’t really covering much ground. Some cities have subways, of course. But, Amtrak has its major hubs on the east coast, and then only travels to a handful of routes going west. Again, not super feasible for a lot of places. From New York City, you can travel via Amtrak (train) or Greyhound (bus) to so many places. But, once you’re in the middle of the country, you would need your own vehicle to get around.
strongly-worded@reddit
Are poor people not “normal”?
Generally lots of people take the bus but it does depend on the city. In cities with shitty bus systems, that only come every 30 minutes and don’t go useful places, everyone who can afford a car will drive instead.
stangAce20@reddit
I have never taken the bus other than going to school as a kid.
Buses are generally the slowest form of transportation which is not good when you have a schedule to keep and/or need to go long distances.
LABELyourPHOTOS@reddit
Only in the biggest cities with great public transport do all types of people take the bus (of course not super wealthy).
In places where it's pretty inconvenient, people that can get there other ways, do.
BigNorseWolf@reddit
If you live in a city everyone takes the bus as a last resort but its there.
If you live in the suburbs or boonies there either is no point to point bus or its so bad no one would willingly use it. Most of the buses here go city to city. Driving is cheaper and more convenient if you have a car, and you need a car to live in the suburbs or boonies.
Aloh4mora@reddit
I commuted via bus to my fancy downtown tech job for 16 years... then again, I'm not normal, lol! I always say "Normal is just a setting on the washing machine."
Redbubble89@reddit
In the suburbs, no. It's an okay infrastructure but to get to some where else it's faster to drive and the bus routes aren't that direct. I take the metro downtown because it is direct and it's harder to park.
imissher4ever@reddit
Are you suggesting poor people aren’t “normal” ?
FrankDrebinOnReddit@reddit
There's no stigma attached to it in Boston. Plenty of professionals here take local city busses, but that's only true in some cities, and intercity busses are avoided by anyone who can afford another option.
OwlPelletCrunch@reddit
Logan Express is the best way to get in/out of the airport, and I swore by Peter Pan & the Fung Wah bus back in the day.
I wish we had better train infrastructure nationally, but there are lots of places around the country where getting from one city to another is cheapest/most direct with Greyhound (and they ship luggage/packages!)
Top-Web3806@reddit
If you live in a few very specific cities it’s a normal way to get around. For 99% of other places, it’s very car centric and so if you don’t have a car and have to take the bus it is viewed in some type of way.
SirGlass@reddit
It really depends on the city
You have cities like NYC and Boston or Chicago and "Normal" or middle class people will take the bus, or subway or light rail
Having been to other places like Dallas or Kansas City it definitely has the feel that most middle class people drive and busses are for poorer people
milkandsugar@reddit
Depends on whether or not your city has a transit system and whether or not you would normally drive your own car. I think there are buses where I live, but I never see them when I'm out running errands and honestly, I'd never ride a bus when I have my own vehicle.
AnchBusFairy@reddit
I'm doing my best to change that in Alaska. Maybe it's a quixotic goal, but I'm having an effect.
The rise in gas prices is going to be good for public transportation.
Fun-Yellow-6576@reddit
“Normal People” isn’t applicable in this context in the U.S. there is little to no public transportation where I live ( over 4 million people) so I don’t know anyone who rides the bus. There is no subway either.
mar_de_mariposas@reddit
Yes
OhioTry@reddit
In general, I'd say that the rule is that in cities with trains, either subways or above-ground light rail, middle-class people do use the bus as well as the trains. But in cities where buses are the only form of public transit, public transit is for the poor and middle-class people don't use it. The busses may be clean and safe, or they may not be clean and safe, but they are generally so slow and inconvenient that you'd only use them if you had no other choice. I live on the East Coast and have lived in the Midwest and South, which colors my perceptions a bit. I've read that some West Coast cities like San Francisco have fairly complete public transit systems, but that they're so unsafe middle-class people won't use them.
MetalEnthusiast83@reddit
I'm in CT, it's generally just poor people who would use buses here. In NYC or Chicago it would be different.
Melodic_Pattern175@reddit
Where I live we just don’t have public transport other than (kind of) inner city, actual city, and super busy areas. We live 20 miles outside the city and there are no buses (we 100% have no commuter trains). Just about everyone drives. No matter how old the car is, if it goes then someone will be driving it. Also, not all roads even have sidewalks to be safe from traffic if you want to walk somewhere.
rawbface@reddit
Here in NJ we have pretty robust bus coverage across the entire state.
But... I only used the bus when I was dirt poor in high school and college.
For all the insults about American's car culture, there's no way you can convince me that public buses and trains will ever be better than a the private comfort lounges we drive around in right now.
Floater439@reddit
What do you mean by “normal people“? Lower income people take the bus because they have no other option. Middle class and higher income folks might take the bus for convenience or environmental reasons, but you need to be in a location with good bus service to make that work. That doesn’t include most of the US.
I’m almost 50 years old and I’ve never been on a city bus. If I’m in a big city, I take an Uber or maybe a train/subway if I have the time to spare. But I don’t even know how to use the bus system. :/
mmbg78@reddit
Yes. It's cheaper, and more convenient
shibby3388@reddit
I live in D.C. and take the bus everywhere. The bus is where rich and poor are equals. At least in D.C.
DormantLime@reddit
Depends on where you live. I didn't have access to busses or public transit outside of major cities for most of my life and my hometown only began working on public transit after I left in my mid/late 20s. If you have access to public transit yes people take it. If you don't, which is still a lot of the US, you need a car.
NHDart98@reddit
In our small city (pop. 90K), the city bus line most often appear empty. A few poor people and retirees (who ride free) at most.
MrLongWalk@reddit
Yeah, plenty of normal people take the bus, your impression lacks nuance and does not reflect reality.
EggieRowe@reddit
Anyone can take the bus here too, but basically no one wants to if they have another option.
Rockglen@reddit
Depends on the city/state, time of day, destination, etc.
In the NorthEast sprawl there's a fair amount of public transportation, including busses. The quality varies a lot, but generally you'll be ok in getting to a destination.
Everywhere else depends on if you're asking about a major city or not. Minor cities may or may not have busses, and with everything spread out it makes more sense to get a car.
Confident-Sector2660@reddit
Ignoring people in this thread who claim they are not poor, generally busses are seen as for the poor in most big cities.
I am not poor and I own a car. I grew up taking the bus (not poor) because my mom did not drive and I did not live in a big city. In los angeles it felt like mostly poor people took the bus while other forms of transit (train, subway, etc.) were taken by everyone depending on the reason.
If you take buses to travel across the U.S. (megabus, greyhound, etc.) it does seem like people are more poor
book81able@reddit
Here’s some stats https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/2025-Q4-Ridership-APTA.pdf
In Boston the average weekday ridership of the bus system is 303,000. In NYC it’s 2 million a day.
So in the best transit cities, the bus ridership is very high and captures much more than the most disadvantaged transit users.
Personally I take the bus once or twice a month when it’s raining too much to walk or bike and parking costs are too high
kprox1994@reddit
Where I live my 20 minute commute would turn into an hour and a half bus ride with a transfer. Entirely depends on the frequency and number of routes in your area, but not really worth the time in many places unless you are really trying to save money.
DargyBear@reddit
Really depends on location. I’ve lived in towns and cities with great transportation I’d use all the time, I’ve also had better experience taking the bus service in rural Sonoma county than I have in some actual cities.
wangus_angus@reddit
Depends where. It's perfectly normal where I live, but where I grew up, most people drove. There was only one bus route—it came once an hour and only went down the major through-route, so it was more for commuters to larger areas than regular use. Here I'm in a larger city, so buses are normal—I have several routes available, plus a network of smaller independent buses.
In general, the US is very car-centric by design. But, most major cities have decent public transportation, if not extensive public transportation. Outside of a city, though, you're probably going to need a car.
Kankunation@reddit
In cities yes. Normal people take busses. The big difference in the US is that most people do llnot live in areas with decent public transit. They live in sprawling suburbs that are only truly accessible via car. If there is public transit or any kind, it runs too infrequently to be of any use for most people and is this seen as a method or last resort, And there isn't enough walking infrastructure at any destinations either you have to walk on or next to roads for cars both to get it the bus stop and to get to your destination after, sometimes for miles.
The US is not build for good public transit on most of the countryz so people do not use the public transit ilunoeds they absolutely have to. And the only people who have to are indeed poor (again this is different in dense cities like NYC, Washington DC, San Francisco, etc).
sneezhousing@reddit
Generally speaking taking the bus is associated with people who are low income. Bus/public transport is so bad in many cities if not most. Horrible hours, have to walk really far to nearest bus stop. Takes double the time to get where you're going. As a result anyone who can even kind of afford a car gets one.
92% of American households have at least 1 car. Most homes have more than one ie one for each adult in that house.
I think UK car ownership is like 70%
PurpleLilyEsq@reddit
In major cities like NY, DC, Chicago, Boston, LA, etc. yes. Otherwise in the rest of the country busses are very infrequent and unreliable, if they exist at all, so they are only used by people who can’t drive due to disability or unable to afford a car. Almost all American household outside of the aforementioned cities have at least one car, and often every adult in the household has their own car.
marylander_@reddit
Depends. In NYC? Completely normal. In most subburbs or rural areas, not normal and may not even exist. In citites like dallas or most of the middle of the country- less normal
BeastyBaiter@reddit
Yes but it's uncommon nationally. It's more common in a few cities but even in those, cars are the norm. Subways are heavily used in the few places that have them.
Whatswrongbaby9@reddit
I took the bus all the time in Seattle. A funny story was there was a guy in the back I dubbed the bus king. The seating in the back was kind of a square and he’d hold court. One time I ended up back there and other passengers seemed a little bothered that I wasn’t engaging
We were all commuters. There was nothing stressful or scary about it. It was great because I had three routes home and if I had a work happy hour I had zero stress. I didn’t pay for parking
Western_Nebula9624@reddit
It really depends on where you live. Mass transit, including buses, is much more common in bigger cities. In other places, it's almost unheard of. Where I live, it's technically available, but it's sparse and very time-consuming. I think it would take me over an hour to get to work if I rode the bus, including multiple line switches and quite a bit of walking, but it's maybe a ten minute drive in my car. Anyone here who can possibly afford a car will do so.
_nousernamesleft_@reddit
As others have said it depends on where you are. I have lived in CT most of my life and have never once taken the bus here. I lived in Boston for a few years and took the bus regularly.
holymacaroley@reddit
In most of the US, we have either crappy/ highly inconvenient public transport or none at all. Low income housing/ cheap apartments often in bad areas have bus stops in my city, and can connect you to only a few job areas. My husband looked into it years ago and because all the bus exchanges were so ridiculous, his less than 20 minute drive to work would take over 3 and a half hours by bus.
redvinebitty@reddit
Normal and abnormal
AdamoMeFecit@reddit
Yes we do. We also walk and take trains.
QuesoCadaDia@reddit
Depends on the city. In my city, it's mostly poor people. I take the bus occasionally and I get the impression that, perhaps with the exception of old people who can no longer drive, I am of the highest socioeconomic class on the bus.
ButterscotchOdd8257@reddit
Yes, normal peoplel take the bus in the US. Those who don't think only the poor do, but they are idiots.
Blutrumpeter@reddit
Not really unless you're in a dense city like NYC. For the most part, buses are considered for the lower class and students unless the city has clean public transport and you're a tourist. Even in that scenario, most tourists with money would prefer to rent a car or Uber
lindini@reddit
I've taken the bus 3 times in NYC and all 3 times got to see someone masturbating. I'm convinced they hire a guy for each bus for local color.
ericbythebay@reddit
When the bus takes longer than driving, normal people tend to not take the slower transit option.
Serious-Mongoose-387@reddit
i rode the bus a couple times. dirty, stinky, crowded, and a little scary. i avoid it if at all possible.
Interesting-Fish6065@reddit
It depends on where you live. Most places in the United States have almost no public transport and require a car.
I have never owned a car, so I have taken the bus many times, but, then again, I’ve lived in places with decent bus service. Car ownership is particularly expensive where I live right now, but I could afford it if I prioritized it.
LexiD523@reddit
I live in the DC area in one of the wealthier suburbs and take buses whenever it's the most convenient way to some place, but DC is kind of an outlier when it comes to public transportation.
Bussy_Party@reddit
In Chicago yeah.
But so do abnormal people.
Apprehensive-Ant2141@reddit
I have a car but I will still use public transport (bus, streetcar, ferry) when the situation calls for it.
Own-Cupcake7586@reddit
Most of the US isn't even serviced by regular bus routes. The nearest bus stop to my house is over a mile away, and doesn't have service to anywhere near my work. No combination of buses exists to get me from where I am to where I routinely need to be, so I don't bother.
Where bus routes exist, though, they are not limited to lower class people.
CheesecakeHonest7414@reddit
Sometimes I take the bus when I visit people who live downtown so I don't have to pay for parking.
shibasluvhiking@reddit
My boss isn't poor and he takes the bus. Where he lives he can catch a bus very close to his home. I think in the US it is more where you love and if there is a decent public transportation system. I drive to and from a park n ride where I catch a bus in to and from work.
And to be honest I don;t think there is such a thing as normal. That's a myth.
Rare_Independent_814@reddit
Not where I live. But if you’re in a major city I’m sure it’s normal.
ghost_suburbia@reddit
I think I'm normal. I take a bus most of the way in to work every day.
kit0000033@reddit
Sigh... My bf grew up in a richer area of town and now he refuses to take buses when he can drive himself, even if it would make life easier or save money.
Major_Enthusiasm1099@reddit
Yes. But the USA doesn't have a vast universal train and bus network like Europe does so it's just better to have a car if you have the money to get one
slippery_when_wet@reddit
It depends. When I lived in texas the only people who took the bus were the people who HAD too, so lots and lots of homeless and addicts and crazies. Now that im in Seattle it is way more of a normal crowd to where I feel safe. Still some homeless, addicts and crazies but its maybe 5% instead of 100%
brubauers@reddit
"Normal" people can and do take the buses here in the United States. Some people generally avoid it because they either have other means of transportation, such as their car, or they find the bus system in their city to be absolutely terrible.
Here in Albuquerque, New Mexico, it's free to ride the bus in the city; there are zero fares. On the flip side.. There are zero fares, which means anyone can get on the bus here. My partner has taken the bus to and from work and other places in our area of Albuquerque, and she's never experienced anything negative. The people on the bus are very friendly and keep to themselves. Tbh.. I'm not against the zero fares. It's just still being worked out
Here is a more conservative article about the zero-fare program we have here: https://riograndefoundation.org/rgf-in-national-review-take-it-from-albuquerque-free-transit-is-a-bad-idea/
OogieBooge-Dragon@reddit
Not all cities have busses.
Or subways/rail.
Most in fact do not.
Riding the Greyhound, which is a private company that provides transportation bus that does inter and tra state transportation (but again, not every city) and you can meet some very unique people on it.
And it has one bathroom, in the back. Use at your own risk.
Certain_Shake_5157@reddit
For small cities, it's for poor people or people with broken cars. I have lived here my entire life and only rode the bus once when my car was broken down.
TCFNationalBank@reddit
Answer will vary by location. My university had great bus service and it was very common for students to take the bus places. Densely populated areas like Chicago and New York that have the public infrastructure, it will be normal to take the metro and busses.
In places where the busses are very inconvenient, limited stops, one hour waits, etc., the only reason you would take the bus was if you didn't have access to a car.
Sparky-Malarky@reddit
I worked as a bus driver for 19 years.
The answer is yes, but rarely.
Honestly, the bus is less convenient any way you look at it. Most people used the bus because they had no alternative. Most were elderly, young, poor, or handicapped in some way that prevented them from driving.
A few took the bus to downtown or to the university because it was easier than parking.
MagicWalrusO_o@reddit
This is going to vary hugely based on where peopele live. In large cities, particularly ones where public transit has been emphasized over time, there's plenty of 'normal' people who take the bus, including plenty that make six figure salaries.
There are also large swathes of the country that the bus exists almost purely for people who can't drive, whether they can't afford a car, have too many DUIs, etc.
monstera0bsessed@reddit
Depends on the city. However, Lots of college students take the bus and there is not really much shame in that in many places. But there is an expectation that once you graduate you'll get a car.
OkPerformance2221@reddit
If it is a well-planned, well-funded, well-lit city bus system, everyone takes it. If it is a desperate, terrible, unreliable, smelly, gross system that is only slightly better (most of the time) than walking, it is a transportation method of desperation. This varies by city.
Far-Lecture-4905@reddit
Normal people take the bus BUT there is a bit of a stigma. I live in a city where the vast majority of people just drive everywhere and people have told me they think I am "brave" or "weird" for taking the bus as much as I do (probably 5 days a week)
Buses are not only for the poor, but there is definitely judgment around taking the bus.
Primary_Dimension470@reddit
Mostly just poors unless it’s a major city
cmh_ender@reddit
New York, Chicago LA (and a few other exceptions) Buses and trains are normal / european... outside of those areas? You better have a car.
MyUsername2459@reddit
That varies depending on where you are.
In the largest cities (especially New York City), public transportation is taken by most people.
In the rest of the country, public transportation is only for the poor. There is a general societal expectation that an adult who is able to function on their own in society has a car (or at least has access to one, like one shared by their family).
Super-Bnora@reddit
It depends. When I lived in San Francisco and Boston, everyone took the bus. Now I'm in Connecticut, and taking the bus is definitely less common and less convenient, especially if you want to take a bus from one city or town to another. Most people here drive.
Any-Concentrate-1922@reddit
Poor people are normal too.
But yes, people do take buses within cities or between towns.
lindini@reddit
I had to take the city bus to high school. The number of drunks at 7 am would imply not many.
alphaturducken@reddit
Do you mean does the average person take the bus? No, most of us live in an area where the bus either doesn't exist or doesn't exist on a practical level.
Dio_Yuji@reddit
In large cities, plenty of regular people take the bus. Outside of large cities, the bus is mostly used by the poor or people who can’t drive due to a disability. It’s ironic, because people who have never taken the bus before will tell you how terrible it is and will also constantly bitch and moan about traffic
rileyoneill@reddit
It depends on the community. In some places everyone uses them from time to time, in other places the buses are the worst way to travel and are generally avoided. Suburban bus lines are notoriously slow and barely used.
Sometimes you will see teenagers and college students (who tend to be poor) using them.
xmodemlol@reddit
Most places in the US you need a car. Some places, even if you're wealthy the subway is fine or even better.
But I think, yeah, everywhere in the US, busses are for poor people.
HarlequinKOTF@reddit
Usually busses in a city are for poorer folks, but everyone is allowed to take them.
Cross country busses are rarer but also skew to poorer folks.
jamiesugah@reddit
The US is primarily a car culture, except in some of the major cities. We don't have reliable public transit on a national scale, and many people own cars. So there tends to be the assumption that people who take the bus cannot afford a car and therefore must be poor.
HackDaddy85@reddit
Depends on the city. But most of the US is built car centric so bus schedules can be very light in many places.
IamGleemonex@reddit
It’s not that normal people don’t take the bus, it’s just that a bus has a much higher chance of having a non-normal person on it than the chance of running into a non-normal person in other public settings. And it is much easier to spot the non-normal people than the normal people, especially in a confined setting.
caryn1477@reddit
They are for people who don't have cars and it totally depends where you live as to how popular the bus system is.
I live in an area where it gets very hot and the city is not extremely walkable, so the bus is not a popular choice.
skaliton@reddit
It REALLY depends on where you are. Like big cities sure people take the bus, rural 'small towns' buses may either not exist or be so minimal that you basically can't rely on them.
...seriously where I currently live we have 1 'bus' (it is barely even a short bus) and it pretty much does a loop around the surrounding towns
KennstduIngo@reddit
Outside of a few major metro areas, bus service usually sucks, so the people on the bus tend to either be lucky enough that the service fits their needs or they can't afford a more convenient alternative.
earmares@reddit
Depends on where you live. I don't live within 100's of miles of a city bus route. We all have to have cars.
limbodog@reddit
My friend said to me "Buses are what government provide for the people they don't really care about" and I never forgot that. We have a decent subway/train network in my city, but there are underserved communities that get buses and nobody seems like they're looking to fix that.
manicpixidreamgirl04@reddit
the answer is going to vary for cities vs suburbs vs rural areas
BearCavalryCorpral@reddit
Keep in mind a lot of places simply don't have adequate public transportation
FionaOlwen@reddit
Many people bus. It depends where you live too though. The availability of bussing is not the same everywhere.
Blossom73@reddit
Poor people are abnormal?
Successful-Roof-7020@reddit
Depends on where you live. In many places the bus is so inconvenient that the only people who use it are those who have no alternative, I.e., poor people.
dr0p7E@reddit
Depends on the city, lots of places are mostly car dependent and other cities have lots of people from all walks of life taking the buses
nopitynopepants@reddit
Depends on where. In a major city with consistent public transit? No, everyone uses public transit. I take the bus every day to work, as it takes 15 minutes during rush hour, comes every 10 minutes on average, and I don’t have to worry about parking.
Pandaburn@reddit
In cities taking the bus is normal. At least the cities I’ve lived in.
RevolutionaryWind249@reddit
It depends if you're in a city that has good mass transit or not. And how much you have to pay for parking. The bus can be less expensive and if it doesn't add a lot of time to your trip it makes sense to either take that, light rail, or the subway.
jessek@reddit
I took it to work for years when I lived in a city.
Scavgraphics@reddit
Ain't no normal people on the bus!
(That's a joke, yes, normal people take the bus.)