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Posted by Brave-Influence7510@reddit | greentext | View on Reddit | 87 comments
Posted by Brave-Influence7510@reddit | greentext | View on Reddit | 87 comments
SudhaTheHill@reddit
How dare you get your credits from the university or American Samoa instead of Harvard, Jimmy. I know you bootstrapped yourself through a law degree while working in my mail room but how dare you.
Brave-Influence7510@reddit (OP)
jimmy was a better lawyer, he caught the people in the sandpiper cause, chuck would have never done smthing like that
FunCryptographer7625@reddit
I think idolising jimmy is not the point of the show...
Mindless_Let1@reddit
Pre-fall Jimmy was a great person. Helping the elderly is no joke
Flat_University_2254@reddit
don't you mean Pre-Saul Jimmy?/s
C00kie_Jar@reddit
Pre-fall Jimmy was honestly a better person than Chuck. A little looser with the law, but a much funnier and, despite his tendency to lie, more honest person
HamBlamBlam@reddit
Too late, I’ve already masturbated to him.
r0wer0wer0wey0urb0at@reddit
Prime tribute material
seanthebeloved@reddit
He is much sexier than Chuck.
Ptaku9@reddit
It's all good man, everyone did at least once.
XygenSS@reddit
say that again?
wompod@reddit
No no the joke is "come again?"
Riftillion@reddit
Don't mind if I do
HiYoSiiiiiilver@reddit
Nice
Aspartame_kills@reddit
Yeah chuck had all of the knowledge but jimmy had that game sense of how the real world and grifters work that would be super useful for a lawyer to use for good. Unfortunately jimmy did not go that path
Haru1st@reddit
You can only get spurned so much before the luster falls off of the self-righteous.
airfryerfuntime@reddit
Yeah, and he broke the law a bunch of times to catch them.
Torture-Dancer@reddit
I’m pretty sure he broke a bunch of legal procedures in the process
ocajsuirotsap@reddit
"B-b-b-but why won’t you hire me in your very prestigeous law firm brah? Is it because I'm a serial swindler with a criminal record???"
dalepo@reddit
Harvard is basically an elite filter: you either come in rich, connected, or brilliant. The degree often feels less like access to unique knowledge and more like an overpriced branding exercise, considering how much of the education itself is already available for free.
real_roal@reddit
I mean, honest answer, he knew his brothers past and how slimy he was. He didn't think Jimmy could change, and ultimately he was right.
Maybe if he was more supportive and nurtured better behavior Jimmy could have been an honest lawyer and not saul, but that's not good tv.
Lord_Chromosome@reddit
What do you mean ultimately he was right? He was a large component in his own self-fulfilling prophecy lmao. That doesn’t prove him right at all.
Not to mention that Jimmy did change. The finale of the show is literally him confessing and taking responsibility for his actions, leaving slippin’ Jimmy behind.
coolguygranny@reddit
Finally someone who understood the show
real_roal@reddit
Sure, Jimmy changed after he already became a slimy lawyer that had ties with the cartel. He was capable of change, but it took the entire world being taken away from him to actually admit to what he did.
And yeah, Chuck played a role in Jimmy becoming Saul, but it is hard to know if Jimmy wouldn't still become slimy if Chuck didn't get in his way.
bell37@reddit
Did we watch the same show? Chuck led him on, telling Jimmy that he has to “work the cases” as a public defender to gain experience and expand a client base. He also told Jimmy that his hands were tied and it was Howard who was blocking him from being an associate at HHM.
This was obviously going on for a while so to Jimmy, he was under the presumption that if he were able to show how good of a lawyer he was, Chuck would be able to convince his partners to let his brother in.
Chuck knew Jimmy was pursuing a dead end. Chuck wanted that and hoped that he can keep Jimmy perpetually stuck as a measure to “contain” him. Another messed up thing is that Chuck knew his brother would never have a solid client base, because he will always be representing poor and shady people. So in turn, if Chuck was actually correct in his assertions (Jimmy was not a real lawyer and would never be), then he knowingly enabled hundreds of poor people being legally fucked over bc he couldn’t confront his brother. Now Imagine a portion of those people were actually innocent.
What’s ironic is that by pushing him to be a public defender ended caused Saul to be a very effective lawyer in criminal defense. Saul did build a client network, only that his network involved a growing list of bad characters.
namethatisntaken@reddit
I know you got a bunch of replies already but their relationship is meant to be a tragedy. Saul wasn't an inevitability but a mutation from the fallout with Chuck. The show isn't simply Chuck was right all along but a self fulilling prophecy. That, and even though Chuck is by no means the most evil person in the show (or even compared to Jimmy), he's still incredibly toxic.
real_roal@reddit
I agree chuck is no saint and played a role in Jimmy becoming Saul, but im also not so sure Jimmy wouldn't have been a slimy lawyer if Chuck didn't get in the way. It seems to easy for Jimmy to bend the law or do shady shit for a victory, and it doesn't seem like he cares more about the thrill then justice. If Chuck did accept him, he probably wouldn't become saul, but im not sold on the idea that he wouldn't still be slippin jimmy.
FormerPresidentBiden@reddit
I think that's pretty likely tbh
Jimmy was earnestly trying to change and if Chuck had let Howard hire him at HHM, he wouldn't have needed to revert to slimy tactics just to generate income
namethatisntaken@reddit
Not just likely, but it's what the creators intended. Even Gould said this in an interview
the_oniontaker@reddit
Kind of, but Jimmy had everything he could need at Davis and Maine and he blew that up on purpose. Jimmy isn't just slimy, he is incredibly self destructive, if he feels secure he will go and do something risky that normally ends up blowing up in his face.
MakimaMyBeloved@reddit
Couldn't have said it better. Chuck was horribly mentally challenged, but he was right about Jimmy being a sly fox
GardenerSpyTailorAss@reddit
I think thats kind of the point of the show tho, "is the sly fox doomed to fate or can he change?"
And with the pre-determined nature of a prequel, it's interesting because we're still asking which came first...
lllaser@reddit
Jimmy didn't have the one thing he wanted most, the respect of his brother. Davis and main felt like a souless job to him. Working at hhm either before or after bringing the sandpiper case wouldn't have felt that way
C00kie_Jar@reddit
I firmly believe this. It was in Jimmy's nature to be slimy and slippery, but it's not impossible to change one's nature. But of course, Chuck refused to even think for a moment that Jimmy could be anything but a criminal, and so that's what Jimmy became
gjb94@reddit
His motives still weren't particularly pure imo. He did it to impress Chuck and possibly Kim, not because of real ethics or belief in the law. It doesn't really make for a solid bedrock of new found morality.
Especially considering he was never an off the rails good person, he was deliberately and ideologically a Machiavelian based on his views of his dad and his encounter with that scam artist as a kid
Simple_Exchange_9829@reddit
It’s not important if a lawyer believes in the law or if "Saul" simply wants a prestigious job, a partner and good income. The motivation isn’t important, it’s nothing holy. In the end you need a professional to navigate man made rules for clients.
gjb94@reddit
Sorry that last one was ignoring the relation to the actual chicanery scene. You're right Chuck was absolutely wrong about that
gjb94@reddit
The topic wasn't is he worthy of being a lawyer it's was he trying to change and was Chuck still right to hate him. My guess is a great deal of lawyers are bad people
Max200012@reddit
L take. Chuck made Saul Goodman
BlackIronSorceress@reddit
Honestly I don't think Chuck was right that Jimmy was inherently slimy. Jimmy just grew up watching his father get suckered by conmen and Saul was a result of the lessons he learned. He definitely could've grown from it though if he cut off contact with his brother and stopped seeking his approval. I'd argue Jimmy would be much better off if he wasn't stuck caring for Chuck.
Bestialman@reddit
He pretty much made everything within his power so Jimmy wouldn't change.
Jimmy was showing a lot of improvement and he just couldn't accept he could change so he did everything to sabotage his career.
He was a lunatic and a terrible brother.
thr33beggars@reddit
Well as the man himself said:
“I am not gay! I know he swapped those loads with me when we kissed! I knew it was a blowbang. One after another. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. He - he covered my face, he got that idiot at the copy shop to blow him. He sucked my cock once on a dare. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That dildo! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that, ass wide open? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy! He defecated on my chest while I jerked off. And I swallowed for him! And I shouldn't have. I took him into my own ass! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the my pants! But not our Jimmy! Couldn't be precious Jimmy! Blowing them blind! And he gets to be a straight!? What a sick joke! I should've topped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to top him!”
Dhelio@reddit
Neon_Rhino@reddit
the_marxman@reddit
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DrThunderbolt@reddit
"Walt I fucked Ted"
-Saul
Bigoweiner@reddit
Classic episode
SmaugRancor@reddit
RaiderCat_12@reddit
I cried AND came reading this
CacklettasMinion@reddit
https://i.redd.it/wcvvxltkcltg1.gif
prussian_princess@reddit
ThrowawayIntensifies@reddit
Brilliant
alayks@reddit
jayeddy99@reddit
Since childhood he felt Jimmy took the easy path and resented that even tho he did things by the book and became successful Jimmy was always his Parents favorite. Plus Jimmy is naturally charismatic where Chuck was kinda awkward/stiff.
Blasteth@reddit
Jimmy had the charisma. Chuck had his pride as a lawyer, someone serious. The second Jimmy stopped just being a funny guy and also became his "equal", you can see why someone that was never seen as funny or charismatic would lose his mind when he loses the only thing he had over his brother.
griffmeister@reddit
Also, the charisma his brother had over him really stung. You can really see it during the flashback where Jimmy has dinner with Chuck and his ex-wife. Michael McKean mentioned a piece of Chuck and Jimmy's backstory in an interview: Chuck made their Mom proud, but Jimmy was the one that made her laugh.
C00kie_Jar@reddit
Not really the only thing he had over Jimmy (he'd always been the smarter of the two and definitely the better-off of them too), but I get your point
GrimWarrior@reddit
But "HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!!"
Applitude@reddit
Me when media literacy
irotok_isBae@reddit
The thing with Chuck is that he’s actually at his least insane and most honest when he’s going on seemingly schizo tirades like this. Almost every other scene is him operating with this fake pragmatism that he uses to disguise his deeply seeded hatred for Jimmy. Both from himself and others. He rationalizes every irrational decision he makes, and is able to do so without question from the people around him because of his status and intelligence.
The irony in this scene that this is the one of the few moments in the show where Chuck is 100% justified about everything he’s saying. Jimmy did go to the print shop and pay off that employee. Jimmy did swap those numbers.
Jimmy isn’t a real lawyer because his degree came from someone unknown online program. It’s because the law to him is just a means to an end. It’s tedious and performative. Jimmy uses his degree to finds ways around the law while Chuck has built his life around upholding its sanctity. There’s nothing more important to Chuck than the rule of law, and to see someone like Jimmy be a lawyer is a legitimate disgrace to him.
MiserableKing@reddit
He needed to die and he solved that problem himself.
WeirdInteriorGuy@reddit
Anti-AI be like:
Syreet_Primacon@reddit
WeirdInteriorGuy@reddit
Yeah. And?
SomeScreamingReptile@reddit
Welp, hidden now
Syreet_Primacon@reddit
It was when I looked at it. This is the workaround.
SomeScreamingReptile@reddit
…the things I’ve learned about after learning this
prussian_princess@reddit
2swoll4u@reddit
“Haha wow it’s just like when people hate AI, am I right guys?”
WeirdInteriorGuy@reddit
What's the difference?
Lundy5hundyRunnerup@reddit
Ultimately Chuck was right tho. Jimmy was a grifter at heart and found out for himself that he didn't fit into the society he wanted acceptance from, and then found that acceptance among his fellow prisoners.
Probably one of the best physical metaphors of the show is when Jimmy can't get his gifted lawyer cup to fit into the new company car, he breaks the holder with a crowbar and keeps the cup and goes back to his old car. He realizes which path suits him better.
ReturnRadio@reddit
I look forward to the weekly posting of this
Budget_Tomato6301@reddit
He was jealous of jimmy. That's it:
https://youtu.be/kSaIuewd9_s?si=Ms9Ae46Ka0f0G9BN
https://youtu.be/uA4-7-6x-rs?si=xZavAeChrvqgIXo3
hisae1421@reddit
Superiority complex fueled by the jealousy he feels toward his own brother’s natural charisma, which he knows he will never match
entitledfanman@reddit
The show is pretty clear that Chuck has a pathological need to feel superior to Jimmy. Being an attorney is something that Chuck holds incredibly dear, and Jimmy being equal to Chuck in something so important is something that Chuck simply can't abide. He was could stomach Jimmy being a barrel scraper picking over the legal scraps, but to be a legitimate attorney handling serious cases? To actually outwit Chuck on serious cases? He just couldn't bear it.
Wings4514@reddit
Chuck, I mean Chud, probably would’ve been much happier if Howard had just topped him
screamingxbacon@reddit
We all would have been
the_oniontaker@reddit
The craziest thing is he was right, Jimmy with a law degree did turn into a chimp with a machine gun. Chucks biggest flaw is that he can't see his part in making Jimmy like this.
CarlMacko@reddit
We must be reaching a limit for this post. I’ve seen it more times than I’ve seen my family.
Mrkillerar@reddit
OP Stop watching it on the second monitor while gaming.
HE DEFECATED THROUGH THE SUNROOF!!!
Haunting_Training_59@reddit
So you are telling me Chuck fuking sucks
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Independent_Mango337@reddit
Chuck is just an asshole
D00hdahday@reddit
He was a man with significant emotional and mental trauma.
Rather than getting proper help and admitting his issues he doubled down on delusions pushing everyone away.
He couldn't cope with his little brother turning his life around and going legit, much less as a lawyer. So he sabotaged him and literally forced him to resort to less savory methods.
Then when forced to confront his various delusions he offs himself instead of trying to reclaim his life. Felt like a spite move "I want you to blame yourself" energy.
He was a POS with delusions and a superiority complex towards his bro.
DecomposingPete@reddit
He's just wise to Jimmy's oopie-goopie, irresponsible shite.
Ylvio@reddit
Really well done drawing btw, instantly recognized Chuck.
silmarp@reddit
Well, he was a dude with lots of problems, he imagined lady justice as his girl. A man can maybe share his girl with a lot of suited suitors but not with his brother. He drew the line and had a meltdown when he noticed lady justice doesn't care about his boundaries.