Do you still see Wetherspoons food as a “bargain”?
Posted by BeneficialJuice2878@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 709 comments
I ask this as a worker there… And the company is struggling because of all the changes they’ve made to the food. Like getting rid of the mixed grill and steaks, and replacing everything with cheaper to make alternatives. for example the gourmet burgers and the jacket potato’s.
as a worker, I even find it off putting getting food to eat on my break there. But curious if others find the increasing prices off putting…
DotComprehensive4902@reddit
No, as the portions have shrunk big time in the last 10 years
tdrules@reddit
It’s pretty reliable all things considered.
Horrible owner and ethos, but if you want cheap good cask in a nowhere zone there’s little better.
Independent_Sugar_48@reddit
Horrible owner? Seems he is a good boss, he employs thousands of staff, they all get shares, many stay 15, 20 25 years. He is great at accommodating staff and their personal situation, there is great scope for development, he is providing very reasonably priced food and drink of decent quality too, ok its cheap and cheerful also he spends big money on refurbishing large business premises all over the country. The pubs are really nice, I know people can to be judgemental about Spoons, I have never worked for Sir Tim Martin but to me he seems like a very decent bloke and I mentally salute him and his staff every time I go to my local wetherspoons indeed any Wetherspoons. I think we need more people like him. He has over 800 successful pubs and he pays millions in tax and is a huge employer. The uk would be a poorer place if we did not have sir Tim Martin and his pub empire. I salute you Sir Tim. That’s my penny worth.
netzure@reddit
“ Horrible owner” It is a PLC and Tim Martin is a minority owner.
kcufdas@reddit
Founder, Chairman and spokesperson if that clears things up
notrainsaroundhere@reddit
Founder and chairman. Single largest shareholder at approx 25%.
Yes he doesn't own the whole company but he is very much the face of the company.
SpeedConstant109@reddit
Yet you still knew exactly who they were talking about.
TruthfulRepugnance@reddit
Shareholders aren't known for their ethics either.
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
If you have decent savings then you are a shareholder too.
netzure@reddit
Millions of people are shareholders. If you have a private pension you are an indirect shareholder of many companies.
LongBeakedSnipe@reddit
Its nit even indirect, its more like an ‘ignorant shareholder’ if they didn’t realise
Iain_M@reddit
Actually at holding approximately 24% of shares, he’s the majority shareholder.
Terrible-Group-9602@reddit
Funny
Iain_M@reddit
No, you’re just pathetic
UnacceptableUse@reddit
!dick
st1ckygusset@reddit
Just like that.
WillStillHunting@reddit
That’s not what majority shareholder means. You need to have at least 50% of the shares. If his 24% shares have increased voting rights then it is possible
Iain_M@reddit
He has the single most votes, he’s the majority voting share
st1ckygusset@reddit
A majority shareholder is an individual, company, or entity that owns more than 50% of a company's outstanding voting shares, granting them controlling interest. They dictate the company’s strategic direction, appoint/remove directors, and pass ordinary resolutions.
Iain_M@reddit
Show me someone else with as much voting power or influence? I don’t mean millions of others collectively, one single person with as much voting power and influence
WillStillHunting@reddit
No one is saying he is or isn’t the most influential shareholder but he isn’t the majority shareholder - this is all I wanted to point out. There’s a big difference in terms of the level of control between a 51% shareholder and a 24% shareholder
Iain_M@reddit
I never once said he owned the majority of the company, maybe you should learn to read or just continue to make yourself look stupid, up to you.
WillStillHunting@reddit
You said he was the majority shareholder in the comment you’ve now conveniently deleted. By definition, a majority shareholder owns a majority the company so yes, you did say that. You thought majority shareholder meant largest shareholder. I think you now realise you were wrong, given you’ve deleted your comment. It’s okay lil bro
st1ckygusset@reddit
He'll resort to Name calling soon. Be careful.
Iain_M@reddit
Why? I take it you get called names often on here? Maybe you have a complex
st1ckygusset@reddit
Only when a poster has been corrected do they resort to name calling.
No complex here thanks. Just preemptive of your next move.
WillStillHunting@reddit
He denied deleting his original comment and told me I live in my mum’s basement 😂
Iain_M@reddit
I’ve not deleted my comments, but think what you want
WillStillHunting@reddit
😬
Iain_M@reddit
I know what majority means, I actually invest, so know what I’m talking about, you however I expect just sit in your mums basement
st1ckygusset@reddit
Oh, the irony.
Are you American ?
investtherestpls@reddit
Majority means greater than 50%.
Iain_M@reddit
Show me someone else with as many shares, you can’t, he owns the majority for a single shareholder.
st1ckygusset@reddit
Impressive confidence considering how incorrect you are.
Iain_M@reddit
He has the largest voting power, the single most shares held by one person, not the majority of shares but the majority for a single shareholder, so the most power and influence
st1ckygusset@reddit
Nope.
majority
A majority is a subset of a set consisting of more than half of the total elements or members. It signifies the greater part of a whole, often used in voting to denote the group or candidate that receives more than 50% of the total votes, distinct from a plurality.
Iain_M@reddit
Actually yes, he owns the single largest amount of shares, not a majority of the company but the majority of voting power for a single person
Ancient-Function4738@reddit
A majority shareholder by definition needs to have over 50% of the shares so he is nowhere near a majority. The majority of shares are publicly traded.
Iain_M@reddit
But he has the voting power that millions of others don’t
nobodyspecialuk24@reddit
It’s also that they have lots of tables and seats and no loud music, which is how most pubs used to be before the millennium when someone convinced them the route to riches was turning themselves into all day nightclubs.
AClockworkLaurenge@reddit
While true of most of them, there's one Spoons in Glasgow that now turns into a nightclub at weekends.
Learned of that change in real time when a group of us met there for pre-drinks for one guy's birthday, specifically for everyone to have introductions and an overdue catch-up somewhere quieter before heading to a club - only for strobe lights to kick in at 9pm with a DJ on mic and everything. I think we thought we were collectively having a stroke at first.
cocacola999@reddit
Ah yes there's one in the print works Manchester too
TheSeekerPorpentina@reddit
Disco spoons! They tend to happen in university towns like Leeds too.
Vaxtez@reddit
Must be dependent on the university town. Aberystwyth's Spoons is just a normal spoons, even at night.
Rowanx3@reddit
Peterborough has 2 spoons and pre covid one of them would turn into a night club 9pm onwards. Then after covid when we got a ‘uni’ they stopped doing it
TheSeekerPorpentina@reddit
I'm at uni in Durham, and the Spoons becomes Disco Spoons for a couple of nights a week, but I'm not sure which nights
TheDisapprovingBrit@reddit
They used to call the ones that turned into clubs Lloyd’s instead of Wetherspoons. Basically the same prices, same menu, they just had background music in the day and louder music at night. I don’t think they even had a DJ, they just turned the music up and put a couple of lights on.
Sniff_Sniffer@reddit
Society Rooms. The Spoons Wi' Choons!
omniwrench-@reddit
Agree that a lot of pubs have got a bit shit, but there’s a catch-22 to having lots of tables - if you can seat X-number of people for dinner, you’ve also got to stock to be able to serve that number of people dinner
A typical one-location venue can’t afford the wastage or compete on that scale in the way a big chain like spoons can, nor can they float the intermittent losses between different locations
nobodyspecialuk24@reddit
Pubs had tables for drinking and taking around, not for dining in.
Most pubs were like this back in the 90s when I started drinking, where you could sit down, chat with friends while your glass chilled out in the table, able to talk to everyone because the music was either non existent or pretty quiet if there was a juke box.
Then some bright spark realised you could pack more people in if you got rid of tables, and what’s more, you stood with your drink in your hand and if the music was loud so you’re unable to talk to anyone, you’ll just stand and drink, with your drink an ever present reminder on your hand. Add bottled drinks to speed up the bar and you have the modern pub.
This worked for a while because my generation grew up thinking the pub is what you did of an evening when in your late teens/early 20s, so we suffered through it but complained.
Future generations saw how bad and expensive it was and it stopped becoming the “done thing”.
Now pubs are in a mess and it’s mostly their fault.
Those that are doing well are pubs like spoons that hark back to what pubs used to be like, and the “Lounge” pubs that have a lot of seating but are more of a restaurant type pub than a pub type restaurant.
I get that food has become a bigger thing in pubs since margins have been squeezed in the drinks area while food remains the cash cow where they make a profit, however.
TheDisapprovingBrit@reddit
A big chunk of that was the change in licensing laws. It used to be that pubs were open til 11, after which everyone would get funnelled to either a nightclub or to one of maybe four pubs with a late license. Easy to police, easy to manage, at least in theory.
Problem was, we had a cracking binge drinking culture in the 90s, and the places that had late licenses didn’t have the capacity for everyone, which mean the clubs were rammed and absolutely banging every night they opened, but it also kicked off a lot more because people had to queue for ages to get in or just got turned away. It also stops being as easy to police when you’ve spent the night encouraging thousands of pissheads to all migrate to one central location.
So the law was changed to make late licenses easier to get, to ease the demand on clubs and stop city centres becoming no go zones after kicking out time.
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
I love spoons but I wouldn't described the app as user friendly. Looks like something that was made about 15 years
Howthehelldoido@reddit
And Yeovil...
CigsAndAlcohol13@reddit
“Horrible owner”
What’s he actually done that’s that bad? lol
Ill_Tonight_2069@reddit
Why is the owner horrible? Am just wondering as i’ve never really heard anything.
hill_79@reddit
Have a read through this thread. Lots of good reasons to dislike Tim Martin.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/s/oN3pdOMDla
Notagelding@reddit
Friendly reminder that he's not the owner 👍🏾
hill_79@reddit
He's the founder and chairman, and while he may not the the only owner, he holds a majority 24% stake 👍
GetItOnRider@reddit
Can you bring up the link (to a Reddit thread of all things lmao) that includes the list of reasons we should despise the majority stakeholders of other chain pub/restaurants in the country too?
hill_79@reddit
No but I can probably find one that explains why "what-about-ism" is a poor counter argument
GetItOnRider@reddit
Yeah, more Reddit-talk. Dismissed.
Interest-Desk@reddit
24% is not a majority, but yes it’s basically ‘his’ company as long as he’s running it (so long as he keeps happy the other shareholders)
hill_79@reddit
It is if nobody else holds more shares than him, which I believe is the case
Interest-Desk@reddit
No it’s not, a majority shareholder has >50% of votes, you will see them especially in strongly founder-controlled (like Meta) or subsidiary/joint venture companies. The largest shareholder is, in many large companies, not a majority shareholder.
Majority shareholder means they have total control within the limits of the current rules of the company (which require 75% to change).
hill_79@reddit
Got you. I'll know in future.
I'll rephrase and say "he is the largest single shareholder with a 24% stake"
desertdodo123@reddit
he is however the founder, chairman, and largest shareholder
Iain_M@reddit
Be careful, facts are not allowed in here
liquidio@reddit
In short - he leans right wing, so some left wing people don’t like him. Same old.
hill_79@reddit
That's not a fair summary, he's done crap things that have nothing to do with his political stance. Case in point, initially he wasn't going to pay furloughed staff during COVID until he got the government reimbursement money was paid, and told them to get jobs in supermarkets if they had an issue with it. He U turned after a lot of pressure. Kind of tells you the sort of person he is.
miowiamagrapegod@reddit
It wouldn't be a Reddit wetherspoons thread if it wasn't full of lies...
Jonoabbo@reddit
That is a very big misrepresentation of what he said lmao
On_The_Blindside@reddit
Much in the same way as he and other right wingers don't like some left wingers, not exactly a one way street that is it?
liquidio@reddit
Who said it was? The question wasn’t being asked about Tim Martin’s opinions.
raphamuffin@reddit
That's a very gentle way to say he's a massive Brexity cunt.
nihilistkitty@reddit
I worked for Spoons 16 - 21. I met Tim while extremely hungover at 9am on a Saturday morning. At that time we had no complaints. It wasn't a bad company to work for at the beginning. It declined quickly however. Noone that works there seems happy anymore. I have a lot of fond memories.
I wonder, do they still do a monthly bonus and extra cash and booze for hitting sales targets?
shadowbat393@reddit
Currently work there and yeah monthly bonus is still a thing. Just moral has taken a dive recently overall for us.
spacecatbiscuits@reddit
Just not a Reddit loser.
tmr89@reddit
He is right wing, therefore ought to be discredited
jizzyjugsjohnson@reddit
Well said
Historical_Owl_1635@reddit
Horrible owner and being cheap are very intertwined unfortunately, which is usually why the cheap places survive and the decent places struggle.
Much easier to supply cheap products when you’re happy to pay the bare minimum to the entire supply chain despite the ethics of it. Of course we’re complicit too as we happily choose these places to give our money.
Wise-Independence487@reddit
It’s not a good cask. They teach how to part pour which kills it
BeneficialJuice2878@reddit (OP)
I suppose you get the cask quality you pay for. At my pub bar staff are taught to put the nozzle into the drink. Which makes it “easier” to pour but a completely flat ale. And then the next one will be entirely head as a result.
PipalaShone@reddit
Something wrong here. Could be lines, cellar temperature, bad system or poor pouring for instance. You should absolutely be pouring below the surface and that won't make a flat pint if conditions are right. Sounds like your beer is not coming out as it should anyway, and if you're having to pull the beer over the surface then you are merely creating bubbles on the top to imitate the proper head.
WhalingSmithers00@reddit
Pulling a pint is difficult to teach because it varies beer to beer and even by barrel. You can feel it in the handle if it's pouring flat or lively. Some you baby, some you whack the shit out of them.
Their way to get new staff not to waste half a barrel per pint and keep costs down.
mrtopbun@reddit
I’ve never had a real ale from spoons that wasn’t completely flat
tdrules@reddit
I’ve not seen that myself. Tend to get better cask Jaipur in a Spoons than a lot of high street pubs around me.
PipalaShone@reddit
Oooh I love the sparkler debate. The pub I work in is in Warwickshire so we are forever putting the sparkler on and taking it off depending on whether the guest is from a mile north of the town or a mile south.
(Personally I am on the pro-sparkler side, but I'm from Durham).
Mister_Sith@reddit
What do you mean part pour? As in pour 2/3rds, settle then fill the rest? Idk if its just a northern thing but thats how I was trained up when I did a stint in the pub. I like my real ale as well and its fine. Some ale doesn't keep a head very well, dark ale in particular.
Horror_Ad8573@reddit
There are more wethespoons in the CAMRA good pub guide than any other chain. They also have a oleghkra if CAMRA awards for their cellar conditions and everything else around a good pint.
They also don't over pour and waste lids if beer.
Razzforshort@reddit
i go to my local spoons every friday. 2 pints of guiness £5.60 - you cant complain at that!
Virtual_Opinion_8630@reddit
is that an offer?
or is a pin £2.80 at your local?
Razzforshort@reddit
its £2.80 mate - cheapest guiness in the country.
Lopek274@reddit
I don't see Wetherspoons "food" as a food.
AndyJBailey@reddit
Getting rid of Steaks & grills was a mistake as was losing Sunday roasts. Adding Leffe on draft was a win.
BrieflyVerbose@reddit
Sourcing issue. They couldn't continue finding the meat at the same quality for the price they wanted, so they ditched the steak.
That's what my manager told me anyway.
jwrider98@reddit
I heard that people kept sending steaks back as they weren't cooked to their taste, and the wastage meant they weren't profitable anymore
Low_Union_7178@reddit
Who goes to spoons expecting their steak to be cooked to their exact like?
WarAdventurous5277@reddit
I was a Wetherspoons waitress many years ago and people would complain about all sorts. One time someone complained their battered fish was “too curled”. I took it to the room the food came up from the kitchen… turned it over , patted it down with a fork so it was flat. That was all it needed …
kcufdas@reddit
🤣🤣🤣
notliam@reddit
If you're paying for something and given the option of how its cooked, why wouldn't you complain if it's done wrong?
HalfPriceFrogs@reddit
Worked as a bar manager for spoons a good 13 years ago.
A surprisingly large amount of people send their steaks back.
A large amount of these people ask for their steak cooked rare or medium rare and actually want well done or vice versa.
They have no idea what they want and will argue about it when they are wrong.
I've argued with a guy who told me a rare steak should not be red/pink inside. There's no winning.
Lots of un-needed waste.
Work in a kitchen offshore now, no longer have these problems to deal with 🤣
kcufdas@reddit
You can turn a rare steak into a well done one but you can't do the reverse
one-eyed-pidgeon@reddit
Rare steak no blood.
Blue steaks not warm in the middle.
Had a head chef once tell me steaks all had to be over 82 degrees regardless of cook.
ambadawn@reddit
The red in steak isn't blood, it's myoglobin
one-eyed-pidgeon@reddit
We are talking about what customers ask for. You would know this if you had reading comprehension instead of an urge to correct.
kitjen@reddit
82 degrees is more than I'd cook chicken.
one-eyed-pidgeon@reddit
82 is wetherspoon and other restaurants etc temperature policy in keeping with Scotland I believe so as to keep everything uniform.
notliam@reddit
Oh dear, yeah I have definitely met people like that. Thank you for your service 😂
BrieflyVerbose@reddit
You'd be surprised at the amount of various stupid things some people complain about. It's always the boomer generation, or at least the VAST majority of the time it is.
I literally had somebody complain that the pub was too loud last night. It wasn't a gripe, she wanted me to do something about it. I told her she'd decided to come to the busiest pub in the area, on a bank holiday Sunday evening, in a town that attracts tourists and people from the next county over on BH Sundays. It was her choice to come in at the time she did and there's nothing we can do regarding the volume considering the pub was rammed. She wasn't happy. I'm not joking, interactions like this generally end in a bad review.
georgexsmiley@reddit
I appreciate that in this situation, someone was being unreasonable.
But any viewpoint which argues, "It's always or nearly always group ____ which causes the problems" is going to be wrong. Blacks, gays, women, boomers, Jews, Muslims...
Life's complex. It's rare that we can say "all of these millions of people are basically the same, and cause all or nearly all the problems."
InternationalRide5@reddit
It's not usually the Muslims causing problems in pubs.
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
You can't deny people's lived experiences.
GENERALLY,
21 year olds are not sending back their £2.29 bowl of chips because it's too salty. 65 year olds are not getting shitfaced and vomitting all over the toilets. Anyone who's actually worked in a spoons will agree with this
CatBoxTime@reddit
Ha. They should just say all steaks are medium-well as that's all the turbo oven can do :)
RevenantSith@reddit
I don’t believe they ever were profitable – I think it was intentionally there as a loss leader
asuka_rice@reddit
It was good when it lasted.
Slyspy006@reddit
That and significant wastage I suspect. Also, is Spoons moving away from gas appliances?
BrieflyVerbose@reddit
I don't know mate, I only do the weekends while I'm in university. They could well be and I'm just not clued into it!
AdministrativeShip2@reddit
I was on the other end of that. Its been about 10 years so might be misremembering.
Steaks were OK. But they changed meat supplier [ireland iirc]. And they were fine for a while.
Then the supplier got inspected and failed massively on hygiene and regulations. Just out from the horse meat scandal.
Shortly after all the whole year's went from the menu.
Google is telling me this was only a year ago. But i know at least for my local spoons it was much longer ago.
one-eyed-pidgeon@reddit
Spoons got rid of steaks last Summer.
psilosilence@reddit
Close but no cigar. It was a double edged sword - cost increases and high return rates... When I worked there nothing ever came back to the kitchen other than steaks and mixed grills being over/under cooked; less of an issue with the latter, but double the cost for the former.
High prices with a high wastage percentage = economically unviable. They could raise the prices of these dishes and reduce custom (increasing wastage/losing money through manager offers), or offset the costs by increasing prices across the board; they chose to scrap them - probably the right choice.
AirconGuyUK@reddit
The steaks were always pretty bad. Don't really see it as a loss.
fire-wannabe@reddit
I certainly miss the gammon egg and chips. I used to pop into my local on the way home and have that.
Nothing else really appeals so they lost me as a regular which is a shame.
AirlineSevere7456@reddit
Same all the good things disappeared from the menu and so I go elsewhere for a pub lunch
Altruistic-Medium-23@reddit
Don’t know if it’s all of them but at the one where u live they even got rid of the half roast chicken
Odd-Quit-1452@reddit
Getting rid of gas from kitchens so the chargrills are going
Polldit220@reddit
The once great Leffe beer, now brewed in Wales. Shameful
mcalr3@reddit
I mind about 10 year ago I used to get a half chicken and rack of baby back ribs and it was pretty decent. I think it was only about £8-10 with a drink at the time (2015)
Linkyjinx@reddit
Last time I enjoyed one was with a Sunday roast and couple pints years ago, many seem to have closed down, I remember as a cleaner in a couple of them hoovering up chips, peas and fag butts mostly lol 😂
feralhog3050@reddit
I sort of misread that & thought you were eating chips, peas & fag butts 😬
martin8777@reddit
That's only for insiders on the spoons secret menu.
Joshposh70@reddit
It's never been the same since they removed the hot dogs.
No-Echo-8927@reddit
yes, but its a spoons so i tend to avoid it
blue_rizla@reddit
Yeah I do. I live in central London. The price for a beer and a meal is a lot, lot less than you have to pay a beer and a meal anywhere else. I’m fully aware that the food is better in other places that charge more, it’s not a magic trick. But people act like it’s inedible, when it’s just fine.
A pint of Stella and a perfectly tasty microwaved curry with rice and a naan for about £11 or whatever it is? You’d pay £7 for the Stella on its own.
grubbygromit@reddit
I was in the spoons near villa park. There's were spurs fans in the toilets taking pictures of the pint prices because they were amazed how cheep it was. It's crazy even in the dame chain the prices are that different
Acceptable-Split6348@reddit
This is such a weird thing to make up. Firstly, most Tottenham fans nowadays live in Essex and Hertfordshire.
Secondly, apart from in zone 1, Wetherspoons prices in London are often as low, or lower, than elsewhere in the country.
The closest Wetherspoons to the Tottenham Stadium is The Kings Ford in Chingford. You can get a pint of Ruddles there for £1.99 or a pint of Carlsberg for £2.59
The closest Wetherspoons to Villa Park is The Arthur Robertson. You can get a pint of Ruddles there for £1.99 or a pint of Abbot for £2.59.
grubbygromit@reddit
Huh? It was on a match day. So where the Tottenham fans live makes no difference.
In Birmingham there's a spoons in New St Station which is more expensive than the square peg. Which is around 10 mins walk away. Cheery picking prices of certain drinks does not disprove what I saw.
Acceptable-Split6348@reddit
I didn't cherry pick drinks. I picked the cheapest one and then a completely random one.
Here are some more for you:
1664: £3.99 vs £3.99 Poretti: £3.99 vs £3.99 Bud Light: £1.99 vs £1.99 Carling: £2.78 vs £2.78 Coors: £2.78 vs £2.78 Abbot: £2.79 vs £2.79 Shipyard: £2.99 vs £2.99 Punk IPA: £3.99 vs £3.99
They're all literally exactly the same prices.
grubbygromit@reddit
So. You are telling me all of the wetherspoons in the country have the same price for every drink?
Acceptable-Split6348@reddit
I'll take that as a no.
Acceptable-Split6348@reddit
No.
Did you even read my comment?
No_Height_2408@reddit
More arguing
Topinio@reddit
Love to nitpick so have to say that London geography being non-linear means that both the Spouter’s Corner in Wood Green and the Rochester Castle in Stokey are nearer Spoons to White Hart Lane than the King’s Ford, which is a hella trek away. You couldn’t easily go to any of them pre-game, though.
Acceptable-Split6348@reddit
You're probably right, but it doesn't change the fact that OP's anecdote is clearly made up.
No_Height_2408@reddit
More arguing
pslamB@reddit
Rent rent rent (and indirectly, workers' rent via higher wages)
_a_m_s_m@reddit
Land Value Tax time?
Terrible-Group-9602@reddit
Cheep cheep
one-eyed-pidgeon@reddit
As someone that has worked for most pub chains over the past 25 years, I can tell you that 9 times out of ten you are getting the same product in a Marstons, Greene King, spirit group pub as you are in a Wetherspoon.
Hellolaoshi@reddit
The owner of Wetherspoon must be very good at negotiating prices from his suppliers and cutting out extra costs. I was at a Wetherspoon the other day and I had a good time. If I had gone to Greene King it might be 3X the price because I would be paying Greene King and the pub landlord.
Farscape_rocked@reddit
The didn't sell Guinness until around the turn of the century because Guinness wouldn't give them a good enough price.
Paradroid808@reddit
They operate on low margins. Read an article that they're paying £10 in various taxes for every £1 of profit they make. I think it was also Whetherspoons that negotiate good prices on beer approaching it's sell by date.. still perfectly good and in date and since they've high turnover, generally wastage isn't a problem as they're able to sell it within the 'still good' window.
Hellolaoshi@reddit
Yes, they can sell it within the "still good" window. If I go to Wetherspoons, I always pick the cheaper "still good" beer. Multiply that X10 for the regular customers.
HatOfFlavour@reddit
I've also heard they screw over brewers by ordering all their capacity for a while then suddenly dropping them and waiting until.they have surplus stock just about to expire and then offer to buy it severely discounted.
chuill@reddit
Correct - it's called Just In Time and they have it worked out to a t.
Paradroid808@reddit
Thanks for the confirmation.
one-eyed-pidgeon@reddit
It's not actually a thing and never has been.
The beer is bought in bulk and distributed from one site as opposed to from multiple breweries delivering to individual pubs.
one-eyed-pidgeon@reddit
They don't do this. Didn't do it 20 years ago either 👌
Rowanx3@reddit
Wetherspoons can get better deals than a lot of pubs because of their high purchasing power. They guarantee large sales so they do get better prices than independents. However green kings will have similar purchasing power
one-eyed-pidgeon@reddit
Wetherspoon handle there own delivery and distribution instead of separate wholesalers like Blakemore and houldsworth etc
Locksmithbloke@reddit
They also buy stuff that's going out of date soon for cheap, because they know they can move it faster than smaller pubs or chains. Or they used to, anyway.
one-eyed-pidgeon@reddit
No. They never did. That was just the rumours that came from the general public it was never true and as staff we were told we had to correct customers on that nugget of misinformation.
Beer comes in bulk to one big warehouse and wetherspoon distribute.
Food comes in bulk to one big warehouse and wetherspoon distribute.
And this is why wetherspoon has always been able to keep it's prices low.
boof_the_floof@reddit
Their
brickne3@reddit
I mean I am no fan of Tim Martin but that is probably the only "good" thing I can think of that he's known for (and even then there's apparently some questionable practices going on with him strong-arming suppliers, but I digress). He can buy in crazy bulk since he's buying for hundreds of branches with insane turnover, and it pretty much allows him to name the price.
It's very interesting to watch the INSANE amount that gets delivered on whenever your local Spoons has delivery days, I've been around the pub/bar/entertainment industry my entire life and I've never seen anything on the scale of the deliveries to my local Spoons.
Poschi1@reddit
Need to remember people think paying more means better quality.
starsandbribes@reddit
This is the thing, theres so many evil chains that are somehow more expensive than independent places. If i want a pint with no morals at least have the decency to charge me half price compared to next door.
Sburns85@reddit
I am Edinburgh and spoons is the same here. They are still cheaper than most places for a pint up the high street
starsandbribes@reddit
My favourite pint in an Edinburgh Spoons is £2.49. Its by default going to be double anywhere else. My partner drinks the same pint and being able to quickly buy a round for us at £4.98 always boggles my mind.
UglyFilthyDog@reddit
As much as I love the local in our old city it's half the price in the spoons here for a pint each. It's cheap, it's convenient and I'm perfectly happy with a not bad burger if I'm hungry. Plus the staff (in our spoons at least) are very pleasant and have come to know us after about a month here. A spoons is cheap and alright when you need it. It's Greggs but with beer, what's to complain about?
Efficient_Flounder19@reddit
The Standing order one is in a loverly building too
Plastic_Library649@reddit
The Caley
I went to see Mad Max there in the 80s.
I went clubbing there in the 90s.
I went to gigs ( eg Stiff Little Fingers) there in the 00s.
Now I enjoy a pint there on occasion.
Sburns85@reddit
Had my very first legal drink as an 18 year old in there
WealthMain2987@reddit
People are just following trend with uati g wetherspoons. The food is fine for the price. Some pubs in London are charging 18 quid for burger and fries.
Harry_monk@reddit
A pint, burger and chips is less than a big mac meal. That is proof its still good value to me.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
Could instead drink real English beer and pay way less.
blue_rizla@reddit
I don’t like ales, I like a cold fizzy lager
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
Lol. Nothing wrong with good lager, just almost no pubs sell it.
blue_rizla@reddit
I like bad lager. Now fuck off
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
Goodness what a sad uneducated little guy who gets this angry over a minor debate online.
PipalaShone@reddit
Goodness, what a sad little beer snob.
Mainstream lagers sell well because people enjoy them.
Just because you want something different - I.e. the hops were picked on midsummers eve and the mash was stirred thrice (widdershins) by a naked nymph - does not invalidate their opinion!
Currently I enjoy Cruzcampo and Butty Bach. Partial to an Aspalls when it's hot. I'm not going to apologise for my choices and no one else should either.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
Actually all I want is good, full strength beer. Not additive ridden nonsense
GianFrancoZolaAmeobi@reddit
So make one, there's either a market for it in which case you'll do very well, or there isn't, in which case the market will act like everyone in this thread and tell you to fuck off.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
There's plenty, but they lack the vast distribution and advertising lower of the swill, and the lower tontie up with pub chains. Let's not pretend that "the market" is truly free.
PipalaShone@reddit
Oh I give up.
Can you kindly just piss off with your brainwashed-through-social media bullshit and leave us all alone to enjoy a fucking pint, please? Whatever pint we choose.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
Nobody is stopping you. I'm just a person on the internet.
You enjoy paying way over the odds for mediocrity if that's wat you want.
TheLordJalapeno@reddit
Could you please tell me more about the naked nymph beer ? Any nymph piss in it ?
PipalaShone@reddit
Closely kept secret. You have to be in rural Dorset at the right time inthe correct moon cycle.
blue_rizla@reddit
I apologise if you think I was yelling at you. I was being facetious with you my anger. I was actually making fun of you.
Dyalikedagz@reddit
Nah we got it, was quite funny.
Icy_Reply_7830@reddit
He knows, he’s still taking the piss 😂
That_Jamie_S_Guy@reddit
Could not be a beer snob and let people enjoy what they enjoy for free.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
I'm not. I just find it weird when people moan about prices when there's something just as good cheaper.
blue_rizla@reddit
One minute after posting this, you posted this:
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
Yes. Not wanting enshittified things is not snobbery. It's basic standards
__e_n_t_r_o_p_y__@reddit
Stella is not enshitification!
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
Really? A beer that used to be quite good and 5% is now brewed with additives and is about 4% is not enshittification?
__e_n_t_r_o_p_y__@reddit
I haven't touched it in 4 years, but I believe draft is the same as it was ABV wise
cupidstunt01@reddit
'Old' Stella was 5.2%. We used to refer to it as 'Fred West', as opposed to 'wife beater'.
'6 pints and you're guaranteed to want to bury your wife under the patio'.
sshiverandshake@reddit
It's 4.6%, and if you're quibbling about a tiny 0.4% decrease which they supposedly did to reduce Alcohol Duty, I think you have bigger issues than enshittification.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
You missed the additives.
sshiverandshake@reddit
Unfortunately we don't have Purity Laws like Germany, it's just part and parcel of ordering a lager over here. If I want a beer without additives I'd just order something else.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
Or go somewhere which sells German, Czech etc lager? If you're paying 7 quid for a pint I'd want 5 per cent and no corn.
PipalaShone@reddit
So you love real ale but also want strong beer.... and if the taste is nice who cares if there is corn in it (unless you are corn-intolerant IG...), it's not as though corn is arsenic.
I don't really think you know a lot about beer in general, you've just been susceptible to marketing (yah yah Czech Pilsner) and gone done an Internet wormhole on real ale and taken it all as gospel.
Drink. What. You. Like. And leave everyone else alone. Your borrowed opinions don't matter to anyone else.
Dyalikedagz@reddit
To some people, it isn't 'just as good' though. In fact you and I know many people who actively dislike real ales/stouts etc.
I like most beers, real ale, Guinness and lagers included. But I completely understand why people drink cool, crisp and bubbly lagers as a preference.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
It's just a shame that most pubs only sell the mass produced, low quality ones, when for 7.50 you could have a pint of really good Helles or something
PipalaShone@reddit
But... Just putting it out there.. what if someone LIKES Carling or Stella or whatever, rather than a supposedly niche but heavily marketed lager, pilsner, etc. or a real ale that isnt as cold or fizzy and has a different flavour profile?
Its ok, you're allowed to like real ale and Helles (hilarious that one of your points is that you can get "better" beer i.e. ale for cheaper than many lagers, but you'll pay through the nose for a niche Helles though)
Drink lemon barley water if you like it, but don't be a snob when someone else prefers vimto.
Dyalikedagz@reddit
Helles is ok. That's really all it is.
This is all personal preference mate, many prefer Stella, Kronenbourg etc.
Eoin_McLove@reddit
but mans wants a stella
Ill_Tonight_2069@reddit
Moot point. You could drink tap water and not pay anything at all.
cactus19jack@reddit
You will eat the gruel and you will be thankful
st1ckygusset@reddit
Grool ??
banterboi420@reddit
Stella is brewed in Wales tbf
Keiepse@reddit
Well matey wants Proper English Beer, none of that foreign Welsh muck.
Bacon4Lyf@reddit
Yeah but it’d taste like shit compared to a modelo
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
I'm pretty certain a lint of proper beer tastes better than some plastic beer with rice or corn in it.
PipalaShone@reddit
I didn't realise they added lint to beer, that does sound unappealing. Will research lintfree beer...
Heck_@reddit
“I’m not being a beer snob”
Greggybread@reddit
A pint of Landlord with a curry? That sounds hideous.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
There's a lot more than landlord.
Greggybread@reddit
There is, but it's really not a curry compatible drink, even the pales. Delicious on its own or with wintery British food though.
AlarmedCicada256@reddit
A nice golden ale goes absolutely fine with a curry.
LateProtection4957@reddit
Thats the problem with some of you people, microwave food and a beer,is not healthy
blue_rizla@reddit
The problem with some of us people?
Mudeford_minis@reddit
And £1.50 for a frozen curry meal. Add a pound for heating up and put it on a plate and it’s not a real bargain.
Lazy-Interests@reddit
I’ve literally been unable to eat a burger and chips from there before, or at least unable to finish it, and I’m a fat cunt.
Acceptable-Split6348@reddit
What happened when you complained and asked for a new one?
ToothessGibbon@reddit
People still drink Stella?
jizzyjugsjohnson@reddit
Nothing wrong with a cold pint of Wifebeater
Wretched_Colin@reddit
It’s not wifebeater any more.
It used to be called that because it was stronger than other lagers, but it’s now less % than many other draught beers in Wetherspoons
vitalical@reddit
Don't forget the mystery "chemicals" people said was in it.
jizzyjugsjohnson@reddit
Look what they’ve taken from us
Heck_@reddit
Nah, everyone stopped drinking it completely. The guy you’re replying to is clearly lying.
What time’s the pointless contrarian meeting? I don’t want to be late and I figured you’d be going.
MonsieurGump@reddit
Lad just made a frivolous throw away comment. I suspect you may have had too much Stella.
Heck_@reddit
Nah, not today. Busy one yesterday. Thanks for caring though, man. Xoxoxo
BakerMaker11@reddit
Weirdo
Heck_@reddit
I don’t even drink. Dunno why I’m getting involved.
st1ckygusset@reddit
Why did you make that choice to get 'involved' ?
Heck_@reddit
It seemed like an extremely good use of my time
Wonky_bumface@reddit
Wow, you're a bit of a dick for someone making a casual flippant comment.
Oggabobba@reddit
Stella’s nice man
blue_rizla@reddit
People still drive a car?
People still carry cash?
People still watch TV?
Yes mate.
Dull_Palpitation_418@reddit
No it's a rip off because it's inedible. Last burger I had in a Spoons tasted of burnt grease and nothing else, it was vile. Never again.
Altruistic-Maybe5121@reddit
I would never eat there. The meat sourcing is cheap for a reason
HappyCuppiccino@reddit
Last time I went there I’d just had my baby and taken him out for the day. I nipped into Wetherspoons for some cheap and cheerful food in their outdoor seating area. It was such a beautiful day. And then they brought my halloumi wrap out with a bogie on top which had a nose hair in it. The outing was not cheerful and I haven’t been to a Wetherspoons since because the memory makes me gip.
Novel-Early@reddit
🤐🤢🤮
DeirdreBarstool@reddit
Excuse me what the fuck??? That’s disgusting!!! Did you take it back? What did they say?
HappyCuppiccino@reddit
I sent it back, they took the plate away and brought me a new meal. Maybe it was a new meal, maybe they just peeled the bogie off. But I didn’t eat it, and I didn’t fight it, I just left. I couldn’t talk about it with the barman because I thought I was going to be sick 🫠 thought I was just being sensitive and hormonal as I was freshly in new mum land, but nearly 5 years later I’m still as disgusted. Ugh I feel ill 💀
Queasy-Airport2776@reddit
I wouldn't go back either because when I used to work there if they drop the food on the floor they'll put it in the meal.
Kirkamel@reddit
Nooooooo! That's horrific
BeneficialJuice2878@reddit (OP)
Omg!! Sickening. Yes a lot of the pubs hire awful staff because there aren’t many other options. The company is also making pubs cut hours so they’re always understaffed now and none of the workers have any morale. I’m always curious what the company will become in 5-10 years time if it carries on like this
Dogtoddy@reddit
Spoons food is ( I imagine ) as bad as prison food, I go to a Green King pub for food then move onto a Spoons for my beer 🍺 😀 😋 😉
Garlax1@reddit
I dont consider it a bargain anymore. It is order a burger, I see more plate than anything that should be covering the plate (small portions). I can get better meals from the local cafes for the same price.
Rastapopolos-III@reddit
Food I cook myself is a bargain. If I want to eat out, I want nice food.
Weatherspoons is 3x the price of a home cooked meal and 10x worse.
If I'm eating out. I am looking for something thats 3x nicer than a home cooked meal and I don't mind if it's 10x the price.
ChelseaDagger16@reddit
I’m in London and not getting food and/or a pint cheaper many places at all. The food tastes good enough to me, regardless of whether it’s microwaved or not.
peskyant@reddit
Absolutely. Some of their appetizers are actually so filling, they have a three for 14.99 deal and it can legit feed two people depending on what you order.
Meanwhile I was at this other pub and ordered corndogs for 6.50 thinking it'd get a decent amount, and it was two pieces of the mini corndog you would get from iceland.
MidianXe@reddit
I used to enjoy a steak and chips in the werherspoons but haven't bought food in one since. Nothing there that interests me otherwise.
ThickTadpole3742@reddit
Yes I do
Ambry@reddit
Drinks in spoons are cheap, but I'd only eat there if I had very few others options. The food is bad and often just microwaved - if I wanted that I could just go to Tesco's and get a microwave meal for about a quarter of the price.
Richard__Papen@reddit
You could say that about a lot of eating out. I say that about Starbucks. I can make a coffee at home for about 2p. Why would I pay £3?
cybertonto72@reddit
Been a while since you have been to Starbucks
Richard__Papen@reddit
They're surely not over £3?! Wow.
matomo23@reddit
A fiver mate
Richard__Papen@reddit
Unbelievable. For a bit of hot water and a few coffee beans. Coffee has got to be the biggest markup in the food & drink world.
BeneficialJuice2878@reddit (OP)
First time going to Starbucks in about a year and I paid £6.20 for a large matcha… Insanity since the quality of ingredients was below standard for cafes.
cybertonto72@reddit
This is the issue that places like Starbucks, McDonald's and Spoons are going to have, their make it cheap and over charge model only works when there isn't a better option available or the local customer doesn't care.
They are costing just as much as better places and they are seeing a downward trend.
matomo23@reddit
Spoons is still very much a bargain though. As is Greggs, and Maccies charges about what coffee should cost here, so it not cheap but you could never say their coffee is a rip off.
Richard__Papen@reddit
"They saw you coming!"
On_The_Blindside@reddit
Yes, if you enjoy decent coffee you don't go to Starbucks.
but then if you enjoy decent coffee it's likely going to cost you more than the 2p a cup that instant will.
Richard__Papen@reddit
I'm not that fussy mate, I don't think I have the taste buds to appreciate posh food or drink.
On_The_Blindside@reddit
Aye but some people do and that's fine isn't it?
Richard__Papen@reddit
Up to them of course.
AveyWaves21@reddit
Try about £6 to £8 depending on what you get
Richard__Papen@reddit
😮
Valherudragonlords@reddit
A coffee is over £4 here in Manchester
Richard__Papen@reddit
Bargain!
Ambry@reddit
Starbucks also sucks, IMO.
I am happy to pay for actually good food/drinks i cant easily replicate at home. I'm not happy to pay for Pret or Starbucks coffee, or essentially microwaved food!
Richard__Papen@reddit
Would we always know, though, unless someone exposed them?
CrossCityLine@reddit
Very little of the Spoons menu is microwaved.
Most of it is grilled or deep fried.
ProofLegitimate9990@reddit
Spoons haven’t even had grills for almost a year.
Queasy-Airport2776@reddit
Really? Do they still have chicken burgers because when I used to work there that's how they cook the chicken.
Gibber_jab@reddit
The chicken wings aren’t half bad
RepublicOfLucas@reddit
That's my go to, works with my diet, 15 for £7.65, pretty decent wings.
Xenc@reddit
That's the glowing review they put on the menu
Remote_Development13@reddit
Youd probably be surprised how much of the food served by more prestigious establishments for a vastly higher priced is essentially microwaved as well
Qwertyuiop4325@reddit
Mixed grill was the only thing I ever got from there tbh, haven't been since they got rid
Blundix@reddit
I do miss the mixed grill a lot
Suspicious-Water-973@reddit
Jacket potatoes are apparently super popular at the moment- so they are probably just following consumer demand.
They are also quite stable for cooking and keeping warm, as well as being a cheap way to offer food that feels very satisfying (and probably better margins)
Shot_Net3794@reddit
I got an eggs benedict and a J2O for £8, in any other place, that'd be £11.50 for the eggs benedict and £3 for the J2O
tmr89@reddit
Microwaved pre-poached eggs, tho
charachnid@reddit
Most restaurants will pre-poach their eggs the day prior and finish them off to order anyway. Nowt wrong with that.
CriticalCentimeter@reddit
There really is
hellyeahboda@reddit
Hate to break it to you but more places are pre poaching eggs then reheating than you realise
tmr89@reddit
Not the places I go, but fair enough. I know the types of places you mean. It’s pretty easy to tell!
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
I got a behind the scenes video for some posh London restaurant while scrolling the other day. I bet about 10x the price of spoons. They pre-poached, stuck in ice water and then back into boiling water when they needed to serve one. End product looked exactly and probably tasted the same too.
That said, who is ordering eggs at spoons😂😂
seadcon@reddit
A lot of places will do that and charge you double the price of a Wetherspoon's.
Restaurants are fucked. Their rent is up. Staff costs are up. Gas and electric are up. Food costs are up. Footfall is down. Every shortcut is being taken.
Cheaper ingredients. Shitter quality. Smaller portions. Higher prices.
You sir are a fool for belitting Wetherspoons. They are one of the few that are being fucking honest about it.
tommygunner91@reddit
Lots of "restaurants" also do this yet still charge the daft money however. Harvesters, toby carvery, etc are all BARELY the next notch up yet are 4x the price.
I was a chef once, I know the crqp they pull and would happily pay £7 for a burger and a pint in spoons and never set foot in any other chain pub. They have your eyes out.
feralhog3050@reddit
Yes, because it's Wetherspoons?
tmr89@reddit
Different people have different standards
feralhog3050@reddit
They do indeed. But you wouldn't expect Michelin-starred standard from 'Spoons, you'd expect a cheap, reasonably palatable, probably microwaved meal which comes out quick & with a free pint. If you want fancy, you pay for fancy
Puppygirl621@reddit
I'm really not a fancy sort but I'd much rather pop into a decent cheap cafe for nosh rather than weatherspoons, its not a hard thing to find eggs that are not microwaved I assure you.
feralhog3050@reddit
I'm with you on this to be honest! Personally I'd rather do the cafe, but one of my kids subsists mainly on garlic bread & Yorkshire puddings, and I know Spoons is a reasonably safe bet (the other kid projectile vomited all over the living room the last time she had just eggs, so we're never risking that again, lol)
Puppygirl621@reddit
I had real bad food issues as a kid due to autism so I get that, you gotta do what you gotta do, but I do gotta thank my parents for pushing me to try foods I disliked but not pushing it too crazy hard, because now I can eat most things, our taste buds do change as we age like everyone else. Big part of it for me was them getting me involved in the cooking process from a pretty young age (8ish), even if I didn't like a food I understood why I didn't like it a lot more if I helped cook it and saw how its done.
If garlic bread is a regular I personally make my own on mini naan breads for real cheap, mixing some finely minced garlic with butter then spreading it on top, dunno if they'd like that but I've served it to my real young cousins and despite being fussy they loved it.
feralhog3050@reddit
Yup, all three of us are autistic, so we know what we like 😬 He's getting a lot braver at trying things at home at least, but if we're out for the day sometimes you just want something safe & stress-free. Hungry Horse & Greene King are the usual haunts, or Pizza Express (though he doesn't like their weird garlic bread & happily chows down on a marghertia)
Shot_Net3794@reddit
Exactly, it's like going into McDonald's and expecting wagyu beef imo
I know Wetherspoons is shit, but it's shit that I don't mind
PharahSupporter@reddit
If it tastes good, does it really matter?
AdministrativeShip2@reddit
The Hollandaise tastes really bad though.
PharahSupporter@reddit
I mean I have never had an issue with it personally.
tmr89@reddit
😬
Hugh_Jorgan2474@reddit
My stomach doesn't care how it's cooked
tmr89@reddit
😬
Shot_Net3794@reddit
It's very rare to find a restaurant at a reasonable price which doesn't now
Gabbaandcoffee@reddit
Yes absolutely. It’s cheaper than McDonald’s, Burger King or subway. It’s not amazing, but it fills a hole for a reasonable price
Master_Sympathy_754@reddit
It's cheaper than most takeaways as well, and probably a bit healthier
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
Yeah it does the same job for cheaper while also functioning as a pub to relax with your mates in
AirconGuyUK@reddit
Fast food prices seem kinda crazy now given it's mass produced and production line prepared.
Why is any McDonalds meal £11?
Calling it the Chicago McStomach Buster doesn't change the fact it's beef, in a bun, with sauce, and some fries..
Why the fuck is it £11?
BeneficialJuice2878@reddit (OP)
And their wraps being £4.50. Sure a wrap of the day is cheaper but Jesus. It’s not even like you can go and get a cheap mid day snack anymore because nothing is a decent price
InternationalRide5@reddit
Shwarma chicken wrap was on special in local Spoons today. £4.95. Includes a beer. Chips £1.50 extra.
Grgsz@reddit
I may be an outlier here, but I used to frequently go to spoons for the food specifically. Their 3 for (used to be 10, now much more) is really good. I got the meat feast pizza, fried prawns, halloumi sticks.
I welcome the downvotes, but I honestly think spoons pizza is the best out of the options - Franco manca, zizzi, prezo, Pizza Hut, domino’s
Master_Sympathy_754@reddit
Ours is a good place to take the kids. During the day anyhow.
That_Jamie_S_Guy@reddit
IMHO their pizza is the only thing in the menu they get right.
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
Halloumi fries and shawarma chips are pretty good
Realistic-Product963@reddit
Still 3 for 10 on Mondays (outside central London)
Happy_Ad_3918@reddit
Agree - spoons pizza is genuinely really good and better than most chains at a fraction of the price.
The 3 for £10 was brilliant, would get 2 of them and feed us and our kids for £20.
Low-Run9256@reddit
A part of me died the day they stopped selling prawns
MyDadsGlassesCase@reddit
I used to go for their breakfasts. There's been such a deterioration in quality and size while the price has risen that I don't enjoy it anymore.
But that isn't exclusively a Spoons thing. The amount of places in general that I would recommend for a breakfast has significantly reduced so it's definitely an industry thing
Pitiful-Ad5290@reddit
I think the breakfast is an amazing bargain . I honestly think it’s the only place I go to and don’t feel I’ve been robbed . Shops supermarkets fuel all rob us blind 🤬
Immorals1@reddit
No. It's never been good but it's noticeably worse, smaller portions and pricier to the point it's not really 'cheap'.
The clientele also make it pretty unpleasant to sit in sometimes and the staff are extra stretched
Maximum_Ad_5571@reddit
Very little is cheap nowadays. Wetherspoons is still cheaper than most, and of reasonable quality too.
BeneficialJuice2878@reddit (OP)
Oh yes… they are having to cut hours company wide so they’re always understaffed. Food has over an hour wait time on the weekends at my pub. So awful
CatBoxTime@reddit
They should stop taking orders if Chef Mike is too busy.
Ding!
DeirdreBarstool@reddit
Maybe location dependent. I have 3 spoons near me and I’ve never waited more than 10 minutes for food.
Do I go there for a fancy meal? No. But can I go there and get a reasonable pizza and a pint for about £10? Yeah. So I do. I’ve also never had a bad pint in Spoons. Paid £6.75 for one yesterday elsewhere and it was vinegary.
I have noticed some things on the menu like jacket potatoes that are way overpriced, I won’t bother with those.
Thin-Dragonfruit2599@reddit
They have some fantastic real ales at the one near me for £1.99 during the real ale fests. Can't get that anywhere else
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
My local at uni will often have some ale on for 99p when they're trying to get rid. Spend a couple hours talking shit, come home fairly drunk because I'm a lightweight, haven't even spent a fiver.
pilljunkey96@reddit
This is eat, the food I see as filler for the pints, and the cask ales they have on tap for cheap, couple of them and a meal for under a score petty reasonable night IMHO
PipalaShone@reddit
Are you good at your job? Apply somewhere else...
brickne3@reddit
Spot on about the clientele, the number of times the police have had to be called when I've been in is shocking. Most recent was somebody ODing in the garden at noon, the one before that was a guy who started pissing on the wall while a manager screamed at him (rightly) that there were children in the room and what he was doing was a sex offense. That one was at about 11 am.
HotelPuzzleheaded654@reddit
The food is fine for what you pay, relative to anywhere else you’d eat out, it is still very cheap.
Ambitious_Coffee4411@reddit
It still feels like good value for money which is becoming increasingly hard to come across these days
Yes the food isn't great but it's good enough quality for what you pay, I mean where else can you get a pint and reasonably portioned meal for around a tenner?
wizard_mitch@reddit
I find it is becoming more of a bargain, it's prices are increasing at a slower rate than elsewhere, it seems especially good value when you compare it to the increases at places like McDonald's
LuDdErS68@reddit
Our team had a Xmas lunch in Spoons once. Perfectly acceptable and good vfm.
Strawberry5252@reddit
I still think it's bargain. Yea, it's not gourmet but it's got some good food. I love the breakfast wrap and the pepperoni pizza is good. The chips have improved somewhat but still aren't great. And the selection of beer and ales at a good price can't be beat.
Suspicious_Steak_696@reddit
No even if it’s cheap I could not bring myself to support that traitor owner. Nothing is worth that
dek-tep@reddit
that prick owner is a large part of the reason why prices are so high
dek-tep@reddit
fuck Wetherspoons
40something_milf@reddit
Much prefer the prices in wetherspoons than anywhere else. The muffin meal deal, unlimited coffee for less than 3 quid is excellent IMO
WeSavedLives@reddit
Prices are increasing across the board. Wetherspoons is still the cheapest around so, yes i still consider it a bargin
glasgowgeg@reddit
Depends, The Merchant in Glasgow (Stonegate owned) is cheaper for some food than Spoons, and nicer quality too.
3 small plates in the Spoons round the corner are £14.99, but in The Merchant it's only £13.
quurios-quacker@reddit
Tony macaroni can be cheaper if you get the pesto menu. Same with IKEA can be cheaper with their specials of the day. Under £10 is what I expect from spoons but they don't keep to it like they did
CaerwynM@reddit
What's tony macaroni?
RockNRolla1991@reddit
italian resturant think they are only in scotland
Weekly-Reveal9693@reddit
Think they're part of the Nardini group.
Malcolm_Malcolm@reddit
It’s the other way around. The Nardini family sold up about twenty five years ago.
phoebsmon@reddit
Better than the English chains, although they once sold me pasta that was too spicy to finish. Impressive, really.
RearAdmiralBob@reddit
They used to sponsor Livingston FC, including naming rights to the stadium, which got called the Spaghettihad.
Beefstah@reddit
Once again I am reminded that Scots are the masters of a nickname. That's amazing.
nobodyspecialuk24@reddit
You can’t compare 15 or so IKEA cafes that are a loss-leader side show to overpriced cardboard furniture situated in commercial parks to high street pubs.
Never heard of Tony Macaroni and if I didn’t know we were taking about restaurants I would have thought he was a character in a David Walliams children’s book.
quurios-quacker@reddit
I forgot it was Scotland only. It's an Italian restaurant has a menu you can basically get pasta and a drink for less than £10. Semi competitive to spoons in price but nothing else
nobodyspecialuk24@reddit
Sounds good, I’ll have remember next it we’re north of the border.
Middle_Ambassador_33@reddit
"Character in a David Walliams children's book" that got a hearty chuckle out of me good sir/madam. Kudos and good day! ❤️
glasgowgeg@reddit
It's relative, isn't it. Depends on your other options nearby.
I find the Stonegate Pubs group tend to have nicer food, for a similar price to Spoons (or even cheaper)
For example, in Glasgow I'd rather go to The Merchant than Spoons for food, even if the drinks themselves are a bit more expensive.
charliecollector2601@reddit
We mostly use Spoons for a breakfast on a Sunday as theres one at our local shopping centre. Get to Spoons for 9, have breakfast and by the time we're done the shops are opening.
For two adults and a toddler (two large breakfasts including extras, a kids breakfast which comes with side and a drink, and two hot drinks) we pay less than £25, and thats after the recent price increase. I think it was about £22 before but its still cheaper than many other places.
bolasaurus@reddit
It's the one place we can always get a decent and affordable breakfast that caters for my partner's severe allergies. We can't just drop in anywhere and expect his needs to be catered for. Evening meals are usually fine with a bit of research, but breakfast is a total shitshow when you're diagnosed with a strong wheat allergy, and a nut allergy that WILL send you to the hospital. Spoons has us covered every time while we're travelling and it's been incredibly helpful.
Head_Priority5152@reddit
Yes very much so. Sure its more expensive than eating at home but it's pretty reliable as perfectly acceptable dinner with drinks for cheaper than any other local restaurant by far. If want a meal out its 100% my go to. If its 'date night' or the whole army of family it's where we go that everyone can fi d something on the menu to fite their taste and budger
AutoGeneratedUser359@reddit
2 meals for £5. All through my college years. Good times.
DeapVally@reddit
I used to be a manager for them. The burger you got back then, and the sadness that it is now, is not worth it. Greene King and the Lounge pubs have better food. I'd rather go to one of them if I want a chain pub. And Greene King show football.
InternationalRide5@reddit
Wetherspoons do not show football. That's a win for me.
WorcsBloke@reddit
It's creeping in. Apparently they'll be showing the World Cup in at least some branches. I don't hate football, but this is definitely a reason for me not to go at those times.
SockSock@reddit
The green king hungry horse near me is absolutely abysmal. I threaten my daughters that I'll take them there for tea if they don't behave or tidy their rooms. Works every time.
lewiitom@reddit
A burger and a pint at my local Greene King costs about £20 though - which is over twice the price of my local spoons and it's still pretty rubbish.
BeneficialJuice2878@reddit (OP)
Personally - I think the breakfast is the only food that’s a bargain. Cant go wrong with a cheap brekkie and tea. Company shares are down 8.5 to 5.5 in just one year so… they’re definitely struggling across the board lol.
Queasy-Airport2776@reddit
To be honest I'm glad they are. Owner of the company is a knob.
Iain_M@reddit
545.00 in April 2025 and 592.68 in April 2026, not a bad increase in the past 12 months of 8.75%
WorcsBloke@reddit
Tbh £4.99 for a filled spud, side salad and soft drink these days is a genuine bargain. So is £1.85 for unlimited coffee. I don't really care that it's a self-service machine. And an 8" pizza and a soft drink for £6.00 is also fine, though there's too much emphasis on chilli for my liking.
I must admit I take a slightly perverse pleasure in going because of some of the silly things you read about Spoons. You know, the "it's all filthy and full of racists" lines. Of course branches vary, but I'm sitting in the sunny beer garden of the George Hotel in Bewdley (Worcs) right now with a coffee and it's lovely.
Also, and I'm aware this is seriously YMMV, I'm not a dog person, and having a pub where you're not expected to deal with dogs in the aisles or to excuse them barking every two minutes because their owners can't be bothered to train them is bliss.
misskittygirl13@reddit
I refuse to eat anything other than chips in a Spoons, they can't even make decent cheesey chips. The food is vile pre made garbage made by the lowest bidder.
Rifled_Through@reddit
Fish, chips and mushy peas with a pint for £12 If it's still cooked the same way it was 10 years ago, the fish is freshly battered and fried to order... Which is crazy when you consider how most things in a spoons is known to be microwaved.
Source: worked at several Wetherspoons sites for a decade
JustStraightUpLost@reddit
One thing spoons has generally is consistency. Chicken wings in Aberdeen spoons are the same as chicken wings in Cornwall spoons. Maybe the microwave operator may be better in another but there’s very little difference.
Betrayedunicorn@reddit
The company is not struggling.
It’s struggling to have infinite growth, which is a problem for all companies. Squeeze squeeze squeeze until everything is fully squoze, just so number go up.
Wetherspoons profits are in the quarterly propaganda magazine. It’s recovered from the three year covid setback and has grown year on year.
I still find the good good value at the moment.
gravitasmissing@reddit
It's fast food a pint large glass of wine chicken and nachos and change from £20 barging. When you can spend £15 for a pint and a glass of wine in pub not even in the xentre of town.
Tonybham01@reddit
It was never a bargain.
National-Raspberry32@reddit
Yeah I got breakfast there for like £3 the other day, nowhere else does it that cheap. And when you’re paying so little the quality doesn’t matter anyway, as long as it tastes alright.
CurmudgeonLife@reddit
I think the food has degraded to the point where a cheap microwave meal from Aldi is higher quality than a lot of what they serve in Wetherspoons.
RosyPosyMe@reddit
We're going today (myself and three kids) and it's a relatively cheap, clean, sit-down meal that is maybe a twice-yearly treat
Cunthbert@reddit
I think cheap is a better word instead of bargain nowadays. It’s still edible if you pick the right stuff, and you can’t really moan about the drinks prices, however there’s no doubting it’s not as good as it once was.
No-Structure-8125@reddit
I couldn't tell you the last time I stepped foot in a Weatherspoons. It probably is still a bargain compared to other pubs, but the patrons and the owner leave a lot to be desired.
Obvious-Water569@reddit
In the context of pub food, yes it definitely is.
snarkacademia@reddit
No. It's not very nice food and you're supporting a really bigoted owner who shafts small breweries. I have stopped going altogether.
rmas1974@reddit
I have always liked Wetherspoons food and found it to be good value. I was VERY disappointed by the removal of my favourite large mixed grill!
Altruistic-Medium-23@reddit
Well if they’re struggling because they removed the food people liked….they should bring it back.
My local spoons even got rid of chicken
Kitchen_Current@reddit
I used to work for 2 spoons and a Lloyds years ago, the biggest winners were steak & curry club and roast dinners on a Sunday.
The reason their shares are down and they’re having to cut staff etc is because the menu doesn’t appeal to some people, I remember having customers that lived alone etc but would come in on a Sunday for a roast with their mates etc.
I went for food the other week and was disappointed in the choice of food, my go to would always be steak or a mixed grill, but was disappointed to see it wasn’t on the menu anymore
Hookton@reddit
No, except for maybe the curry club. It used to be mediocre but reliable and cheap. Prices have gone up, quality and portion sizes have gone significantly down.
ultimateberk@reddit
Curry club used to be great. I used to go every week for the lamb rogan josh, was a great curry and such good value. I cant remember what the price was last time i looked but it didnt seem like it was worth bothering with anymore
Hookton@reddit
It's still only a tenner with a drink, which I think is decent value. Significantly less than my local takeaway. Not as good but still decent and, again, Spoons used to be all about getting the cost/quality balance right.
ultimateberk@reddit
Not as bad i was expecting
MeltingChocolateAhh@reddit
Yes. It doesn't pretend to be amazing food, but I feel like I pay for what I get there. And I haven't had undercooked foods or pulled hairs out of my food there before (yet)
Glass-Locksmith-8100@reddit
It was the microwaving of everything on a breakfast making it inedible that did for me , not a bargain if you cant eat it.
BisexualPands97@reddit
Tell Tim to fetch the hotdogs back. The burgers you can tell have kinda dropped off, there not as good as they used to be. The hotdogs were amazing, stupid that they ever got rid of them to try and fetch new shit that noone ever orders.
Raisinsandfairywings@reddit
It’s still better value than anywhere else so I won’t stop going any time soon. But I’m a bit upset about the change to the kids’ menu as it was genuinely one of the few places you could get an actually nutritious (not just chips and nuggets) kids’ meal. We used to always get my daughter a chicken breast with jacket potato and roast veg, but they’ve removed it from the menu.
metrize@reddit
i wish all these crap pubs closed down and we had proper convenience stores like they do in asia so if you wanted microwave food you could buy it and microwave it right there
i’m glad the drinking obsession in this country is dying out
nattydread69@reddit
I can't eat gluten so I can no longer eat any of their food.
reptipins@reddit
Days of spoons being "cheap" are long gone especially in cities
Important-Reply-7966@reddit
I don't find cheap food a bargain at all anymore.
I'd rather pay £50 on a good, well made meal, than £20 on a low quality cheap food.
When you could pay <£10 get food and a drink, that was a bargain, but everything's so expensive, I'd rather eat at home and have better cooked food.
AdventurousOtter13@reddit
The fry up remains an unbelievable price, so do a lot of the pints
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
Yeah if you like lager then you can train yourself to like bitter. Then just drink Worthington's for £1.79
ForestTechno@reddit
This. I was at a loose end after work the other week after finishing to late and starving. Decided to stop there and got the all day veggie brunch and a soft drink for less than £7 I think? Perfect for what I needed and could afford at that exact moment.
luxford2@reddit
It’s the only non-fast food place you can get a sit down meal, nationwide, for about tenner or less.
mitzibishi@reddit
With a free beer yes. Without no.
Low-Captain1721@reddit
We used to like spoons occasionally going back over a decade but for last few years the 'food' served feels more like it piss take.
Not cheap n cheerful anymore - just not so cheap & absolute shite quality
FormalAd604@reddit
It does the job. It’s not amazing but it’s cheap and you know what you’re getting.
The pulled pork burger years ago was delicious though and I’d 100% eat at Spoons more if that was still on the menu.
smellthecoffeebeans@reddit
We went to one this weekend for the first time in years and we were shocked by the portion size, price, and quality. I didnt eat anything as I am coeliac and have trust issues(tm), but my husband and four year old were both disappointed.
My one year old, however, very much enjoyed his ripe banana lol
darybrain@reddit
The large breakfast or chicken burger I get from Spoons plus a cider is cheaper and on par in taste if not better than the nearby Subway or McDonald's. The morning drunken fights can be both hilarious and annoying although finding one of the quieter spots to sit that doesn't have a fly infestation can be difficult.
Scratchy-cat@reddit
Yeah, the prices are reasonable for what you get and I personally think the food is actually pretty good, the only problem I've had is how cramped some of them are, I got stuck at my table when people sat on the tables either side and behind me as I could move my chair back and even if I could there was no room to get away from the table
Professional-Crew657@reddit
It's only really the pizzas that are worth ordering - anything else and there's a risk it's not cooked properly or otherwise inedible. It's decent value for what it is.
marting04@reddit
What I like about Spoons is the app. I cannot remember the last time I stood at the bar in a 'spoons pub, although these days you have to stand in line rather that at the bar, so irritating!
The 3 for whatever price is no bad when half cut usually get wings, nuggets and haloumi fries washed down with more pints. Last time it was cans of something called Growling Dog holy fucking shit the hangover I had the next two days! Not been back since.
PipalaShone@reddit
Just l so you know: while we have QR codes and apps because whichever group we work for thinks that it's a fabulous idea... we all hate you.
Pebbley@reddit
Food?
Mudeford_minis@reddit
Not if you like eating crap. It’s Iceland quality food at Iceland prices.
makomirocket@reddit
A chicken wrap, chips, and any drink is the same price as a pint down the road
A small breakfast, and any drink is also the same price as the same pint down the road
DanielReddit26@reddit
Just had a quick look, chicken burger with chips and a pint for £9.56... I'd say that was cheap anyway, yeah - especially for Edinburgh where a pint itself is going to be ~£6 itself anywhere else.
Zealousideal-Soil-41@reddit
It depends on the spoons, different in each pub in my town. My local I’m mostly always not unhappy with it and sometimes pleasantly surprised. It’s a shame they’ve removed so many things from the menu but it is what it is. Still cheap as literal chips, as are the drinks. You cut your cloth according to your means so I’m not complaining!
Nerry19@reddit
The foods ok, sometimes good (although ive never enjoyed breakfast there), and it is still pretty much the cheapest pub food going. Especially if your getting a pint too.
Responsible_Drive380@reddit
I don't see it as food.
SuperSheep3000@reddit
Breakfast is great value.
the-holy-one23@reddit
I used to eat there all the time. Now the menu is just awful so no matter how cheap it is, I dont enjoy it anymore.
flalex05@reddit
No. Not even slightly.
I used to get a massive bowl of chips as part of the 3 for £10 deal. Then that price went up, fair enough. Inflation etc. But then the bowl of chips got smaller. Then the chips got worse.
Now it's £15 for 3 plates, and they're smaller and arguably worse quality than before
Rebeccafyre@reddit
Oh is that why the mixed grill vanished 😞. I genuinely enjoyed that and was my go to.
BrieflyVerbose@reddit
No, sourcing. They weren't happy with quality and price so they got rid completely.
CMRC23@reddit
Ridiculous. I'm sure if they paid a little more and upped the price people would pay the difference. Plenty of other places manage it for not much more
joe_smooth@reddit
I'm pretty sure the mixed grill and steaks were the only things on the menu that couldn't be microwaved. Maybe they got rid because they cost more to make?
jon81uk@reddit
Far more of the menu is deep fried than microwaved
rbc02@reddit
Plenty of stuff isnt microwaved. Theres several reasons we got rid of them but none of the simple answers people seem to give about how to fix the issues wouldn’t work
teerbigear@reddit
I think you understand Wetherspoons's clientele less well than Wetherspoons.
AirconGuyUK@reddit
I can kind of see the logic. If expensive things start appearing on the menu psychologically it can stop people seeing you as the cheap option and thats wetherspoons entire thing.
BrieflyVerbose@reddit
According to my manager, they didn't want to do that.
GrandVizierofAgrabar@reddit
Also money saved on gas with the grill off, which before was burning from 8-23. Also reduced staffing with quicker opens as there’s much less meat prep.
spiralled@reddit
Yeah I used to go for the mixed grill, unlikely to bother now.
Raventree321@reddit
£1.50 for unlimited coffee. We probably go to spoons to eat a couple of times a month. It works out cheaper than grabbing a quick lunch/dinner than McDonald’s and keeps it simple when we’re in a rush (with three kids!
mkaym1993@reddit
Yes. It’s extremely cheap compared to other places (imo), and even if it’s frozen it usually pretty tasty
Paradroid808@reddit
I've always rated Wetherspoons grub as very decent for the price, however my last visit a few months ago (because I don't go out drinking much these days) was a bit disappointing. Burger was miniscule without much in it. Would have preferred to pay another quid for something more worthwhile.
Cost of lving, cost of everything is going up so they either have to raise prices or reduce quality, portion size or extras.
I still think Wetherspoons do an excellent job in terms of offering exceptional value in the minimal profit margin segment.. they just can't work miracles.
laszlo_panaflex55@reddit
I’ve seen the effects a Wetherspoons has on an area when they muscle out independent businesses for their own benefit. Wetherspoons open next door to an independent place that dared to serve beer later in the day but was primarily a coffee shop. Guess which one opened at 9am against which one couldn’t open until 4pm because there was a school 5 minutes walk down the road? One had to close due to not being able to open and one is still there despite me ever seeing anyone go in there for coffee when I take my kids to school
Chocolategirl1234@reddit
Recently stayed in a city centre hotel. Breakfast was £25 each. Went to Spoons and £21 for 2 of us. It was fine - can’t see the hotel being better quality tbh
Candid-Engineer-6926@reddit
It sounds like they’re following trends. I think people see steak as a premium product and they’ll go to a nice steakhouse as a birthday treat or something
Burgers are more fun, you eat them with your hands and it’s more casual, even a good burger is less expensive than a steak. It’s a more regular more casual ‘treat’
ProofLegitimate9990@reddit
Its just easier to hide the meat quality in a burger
Candid-Engineer-6926@reddit
Well but also no one expects the finest meat in their burger in a big chain eatery
Verdigri5@reddit
We went to Miller and Carter for a birthday recently and honestly I've had steak in spoons that was as good as the one I had there, for a third of the price.
Mr-RS182@reddit
For the price that you pay and it normally includes a drink it good value. Some people don’t like the quality of the food but then if you want fine dining don’t go to Wetherspoons.
Low-Put-5735@reddit
Fine dining and Weatherspoons aren't the only two options to feed yourself.
Low-Put-5735@reddit
You couldn't pay me to eat at a Weatherspoons
salty_pepperpot@reddit
It's better and cheaper than any other fast food, and it comes with beer. You also get to eat it with a knife and fork- so classy!
Mr_CAI@reddit
I miss the steak so much. Was amazing value :(
starsandbribes@reddit
The ramen bowl honestly isn’t that far off Wagamamas in quality. You can take that as a compliment to Spoons or an insult to Wagas.
The burgers taste funny, not sure if its the meat or bun but I couldn’t finish mine. Almost had a milky taste?
BeneficialJuice2878@reddit (OP)
They definitely have a weird aftertaste… especially the buttermilk pattys. They have an off-milk aftertaste really badly.
Reasonable_sweetpea@reddit
I think the food is a fair price for what it is - I wouldn’t say a bargain but it is cheap food at cheap prices and if you’re choosing to eat at a Wetherspoons, you know what you’re getting.
Agitated_Display7573@reddit
Compared to other pubs in my area, yeah it’s a big bargain
TravisTouchdownThere@reddit
I got two pizzas, halloumi fries and two pints for 20 quid today.
Latte-Addict@reddit
I'm near Leeds. Even though food cost a couple of quid more at the White Rose centre branch than say the one in nearby Morley/Batley, it's still pretty good value.
BrieflyVerbose@reddit
The company aren't struggling because of the food, they're struggling because the margins for profit are so small (hence cheap prices and then being on their staff constantly for not making mistakes), and there's rising costs such as energy and wage rises. Their sales are higher than ever, it's just they're not managing to hold onto that money due to costs.
Iain_M@reddit
They seem to be doing okay
BrieflyVerbose@reddit
As I said, the company are doing better than ever in terms of sales. But they're not making the profit due to the expenses. So they're not retaining that extra money.
It's no wonder so many pubs are on their arse. It's no wonder all the other pubs in the area are struggling while the Spoons are still doing well.
I can't talk for the whole country but the habits and behaviours of the customers have changed in the 3 and a half or so years I've been there. People used to start early with us and the pub would be quiet by 9pm. Now people are staying much much later in Spoons to the point we had to change our weekend shifts because so many staff were going home at 10pm and the place was still packed.
DollySheep32@reddit
My large pinot is now 3.99! I could buy a cheap bottle of the same quality from lidl for 3!
Additional-Let-5684@reddit
In Scotland the min price for a bottle is 6 and that's the very bottom of the barrel :'(
MyDadsGlassesCase@reddit
I used to go for their breakfasts. There's been such a deterioration in quality and size while the price has risen that I don't enjoy it anymore.
But that isn't exclusively a Spoons thing. The amount of places in general that I would recommend for a breakfast has significantly reduced so it's definitely an industry thing
Additional-Let-5684@reddit
The egg and bacon muffins are a fiver with a coffee and are actually really good, just a tip :)
Firthy2002@reddit
Went this morning as needed a pre-work brekkie and couldn't be bothered doing my homework to see where else would be open for breakfast on Easter Monday that was reasonably priced and left me enough time to negotiate Sunday bus services to work.
Whilst I admit that I miss the days when they did proper pub food, it's still a good enough place to go if you're not fussed about high quality food and can't think of alternatives that won't also break the bank.
Admittedly the price creep is a bit concerning, but 3 for £15 on small plates is still good.
BorderlineWire@reddit
I haven’t been to a Wetherspoons since before Covid, but I’ve also moved to a lower cost of living area since then where there’s better options. It just doesn’t appeal to me any more. It doesn’t feel like a bargain if there’s nothing I can/want to eat and the atmosphere isn’t that great there but somewhere down the road has a very nice reasonably priced house made offering in much more pleasant surroundings.
Dnny10bns@reddit
Love Wetherspoons. Unsure about the food, but I love the cheap beer.
malak1000@reddit
Still great and reliable food.
LockeddownFFS@reddit
It's a cheap meal and drink, you get what you pay for. Fish, chips and mushy peas is usually decent. I was surprised to see the mixed grill and steak had gone, but if Spoons don't think customers are willing to pay a price that makes sense, then that's that. Probably says something about the state of the economy too.
Over-Bug1501@reddit
Spoons is the worst. It was POOR before, it is poorer now. I would go hungry and thirsty before I spent a penny in a spoons.
Sammiepuss@reddit
Absolutely. The ramen bowl is brilliant, add chicken breast and an egg, and for less than £12.50 you've got a seriously nourishing and tasty meal with a pint that rivals noodle chain restaurants offerings at over twice the price.
The spice bag deserves a mention as well. Yes, I miss the steaks and mixed grills, come to that I miss the Sunday roasts, but times change and things have to move on.
Cask ales are £2.20 in my local one and I have never had a bad pint in any spoons Ive been to
Wetherspoons is still bloody amazing value
Organic-Violinist223@reddit
No! For just a few quid extra we can get a better meal in a gastro pub near us now!
baulplan@reddit
Chips are definitely smaller portions but a boneless basket with chips and a pint of doom bar is still a great deal…..
No_Step8958@reddit
No, it’s shite these days.
Top-Lawfulness6711@reddit
Nah. My daughter gets a kids tomato pasta and it’s about a fiver. Tiny portion. Three pound odd for a big bowl of chips. It’s not cheap and cheerful anymore.
InternationalRide5@reddit
It's £3.50 for chips from a takeaway now, and you don't get to sit down while you eat it.
kayleighchelsea@reddit
It's not £5 a kids portion of pasta though, it's £5 for that plus a drink and a snack which is pretty good
Top-Lawfulness6711@reddit
Yeah you’re right but the pasta portion is small
sundance464@reddit
I'd say it's relative - depending where you are you'd definitely struggle to get anything cheaper these days, let alone somewhere you can sit down
It's sad that's how badly cost of living has escalated but here we are (just to say, obviously, you can get bigger and better meals elsewhere for more money)
Top-Lawfulness6711@reddit
Yeah I’d rather take her to an independent cafe that would cost the same but it’s her favourite. I just think the portion is so small even for a kid.
sundance464@reddit
Definitely - everyone's going to be different. I'm not a huge fan of the Spoons myself but there's times it's been the best option for us
matomo23@reddit
The kids bolognaise is a bargain still though. Like you say around a fiver with a snack and a drink. Cheaper than anywhere I reckon. Only chain that probably has them beat on the kids menu is The Loungers.
ultimateberk@reddit
I agree although ive found a lot of places will do free kids meals with an adult meal so swings and roundabouts sometimes
greenbeanmachine1@reddit
See lots of people saying stuff like ‘it’s ok for what you pay’ and ‘can’t complain at that price’. This might have been true 5-10 years ago but in my opinion quality (and portion sizes) has gone down while prices have gone up, even when compared to other places. So it’s no longer in the bargain category.
This is for food, not drink. Drinks are still a bargain.
theonlysamintheworld@reddit
For all the flaws, it cannot be denied that Wetherspoons offers good value. It’s the only reason I’ve ever been. It’s cheap and you know what you’re getting.
someguyontheweb99@reddit
No it mostly seems like microwave crap and the breakfasts shrink more every time I get one
CartoonistAlone8563@reddit
The places tend to attract undesirables.
WishfulStinking2@reddit
The 3 small plates for £15 is a good deal and the plates are far from small - probs do two people easily
RobertTheSpruce@reddit
I personally have no problem with Wetherspoons food. Simple and convenient ordering system, and it's never bad food, it's just occasionally not perfect.
Lost_Psychology8885@reddit
Breakfast, pint of juice and unlimited coffee top ups for about £12. I could honestly just live there and thrive not just survive.
MooMorris@reddit
I went to a Spoons in Chesterfield last year. Got 3 pints, a cocktail and glass of wine for about £15. As someone from just outside London I was staggered. I have no issues with the food. I've paid more and got worse at plenty of other places.
Major-Credit-2442@reddit
Of course, it’s considerably cheaper than the majority of other places to eat and drink at. The food isn’t amazing but it isn’t terrible either. It’s basically the McDonald’s of pubs for me, except McDonald’s isn’t even cheap now.
Pockysocks@reddit
A lot cheaper than other fast food places for what you get.
Terrible-Group-9602@reddit
Most definitely.
Shadowmantha69@reddit
No it’s now just like a pound cheaper than every where else
Individual-Carob5593@reddit
After watching that documentary, is it even food?
rbc02@reddit
Company is doing much better without steak and mixed grills, what you yapping about
Madruck_s@reddit
Lost me when steak club turned into a rump with or without peas.
I also rely miss the burger with blue cheese.
I'll still go in for a drink and a basic burger if I'm just out but if I'm going out specifically for food I'll find another chain to go to.
jungleddd@reddit
Yes. My local Spoons is pretty nice. In the morning I can get a sausage and egg muffin with a drink for £3. In the evening I can get a surprisingly decent ramen bowl with a drink for £7. Slightly more if it’s alcohol. I’ve been having my house renovated so have been without a kitchen. The spoons has been a lifesaver.
smutanssmutans@reddit
The word ‘satiscraptory’ sums it up.
OG-87@reddit
Not for like 5 years
Lonely-Job484@reddit
I rarely eat there, but you can't really argue with the bar setup
RummazKnowsBest@reddit
I used to, think it was £5 for a burger and a pint in my youth.
nunsreversereverse@reddit
Think I remember £3.99 but you had a limited choice of crap pints, only Carling etc.
marxistopportunist@reddit
But the burger was like XL. That plate filled you up
belfast-woman-31@reddit
I still think it’s good value. A mocktail and sausage, beans and chips for £5.75 can’t be beaten.
Me and my friends used to meet up for dinner and drinks and spent around £70, now we meet up in Wetherspoons and spend around £30 instead.
KitchenParty69@reddit
When they did three plates for a tenner it was unmatched for value.
Been a while since I’ve been in a Wetherspoons that’s not an airport so don’t even know if they still do it!
ShelecktraYT@reddit
I'm doing it right now 🤣
Went to Lidl to get my dinner, now it's tomorrows dinner instead 🤣
Belle_TainSummer@reddit
Nothing in 'Spoons is a bargain. They only have one price for products, and it is your soul.
Gone_For_Lunch@reddit
I’m ginger, jokes on them.
Soggy-Cranberry-8560@reddit
I've only tried the burgers and they're cheap but extremely bland, I won't be going back. There is another chain pub place down the road that does a burger and chips for the same price and it's one of the best burgers i've had.
tennisstar04@reddit
Stopped going since they got rid of the mixed grilled
Electronblue69@reddit
I had pizza and chips the other day came to £10. Around £6.30 for the pizza and just under £4 for chips and they were very nice. I'm easily pleased when it comes to food though with very basic tastes so probably not the person to ask but I'd say it was a good deal. Could probably have got it with a drink for not much more? But I bought the drink separately.
Clean_Gain_5827@reddit
Spoons food is dreadful and its not a bargain in any way. People's reverence for the food there isnt because they particularly enjoy consuming it sober. The drinks prices are the cheapest around and when you get the munchies its unlkely you're choosing to eat good food anyhow so being able to eat a shitburger and chips at the same place you get your pint is better than queuing up on the high st on your way home.
If consuming food when sober, its unusual to not be getting an uber cheap alcoholic drink at the same time, so any taste buds that may spoil the experience are pacified. And people like cheap stuff and will defend it to the ends of the earth even as they lose elderly relatives to bowel cancer from lives spent consuming nitrates, aspartame etc. Why worry about later? Especially when moneys so tight.
lumpyscud666@reddit
Yes. Still a bargain. Look macdonalds price increases and shrinkflation. Spoons is still a sensible cheap meal.
ChelseaMourning@reddit
I wouldn’t consider it a bargain anymore, but it’s still a relatively cheap meal out for a family when you don’t feel like cooking. Thing is everywhere else has gone up too, so it’s still the lower end of the scale for a decent amount of food. But I wouldn’t call it a bargain anymore.
marielheslop@reddit
Wait what did they do to the jacket potatoes?
Icy_Reply_7830@reddit
What did the jacket potatoes do to them?
gaz3028@reddit
Hungry horse is my go to, 3 of everything and a brew for about £12
EcstaticAdvance684@reddit
Hungry horse is great value for breakfast and actually quite tasty
gaz3028@reddit
As stated £12 for the full hit with a cuppa, how can you go wrong?
DiskBytes@reddit
I like their food, but they're usually in areas full of racists and shouty people in football tops and the women in there could smash the crap out of most men there.
DameKumquat@reddit
You've summed up the only one I've ever been to - it had a Wacky Warehouse so was used for kids birthday parties. The food was mediocre but cheap and edible.
spidertattootim@reddit
No, because I can do better for cheaper at home.
But then I am antisocial shut-in, so my priorities might be a bit skewed.
Popular-Jury7272@reddit
A half decent burger meal is more than it used to be, maybe £10-11 for the ones that aren't shit, which can feel like a lot. Until you remind yourself that you'll struggle to find a half decent burger meal anywhere else in town for less than £20.
envstat@reddit
I end up eating there about once a month as the old guys at work love it. It does feel like the beer + meal combo is now over a tenner for most stuff, at least what I tend to get. Think it was over £12 for the pizza one last time I was in. I'd rather eat anywhere else, we're in a city theres loads of top quality food places.
Beer is still nice and cheap though.
AquarianViolist@reddit
I’m not a regular and can’t remember previous food visit at your place but went to a Wetherspoons on Friday (it made sense as a place to meet a friend with 11y old); we ate there and I was sooooo impressed! Definitely a bargain, our table had a variety of stuff & it was tasty for the price (2 pizzas, scampi, chicken bites, burger were all 👌🏻) Only issue was I took our plates back to the bar as table was getting very FULL and the barman didn’t like that 🙊
PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit
Yeah I still think it's good value.
For beer and a burger style deals it's better than you'll find in most places.
If you're living in London they'll be one of the cheapest pints around.
I don't agree with the owner's views on various things, but if I boycotted every company I disagreed with the owner on, I'd have a hard time getting through day to day life.
SockSock@reddit
Wetherspoons has stopped me going to other shitty chain pubs and restaurants. If I go somewhere else I just compare it to wetherspoons. The food is basically the same but it costs £5 more minimum plus you have to add £6 for a shit generic pint. Plus the app works well so I don't need to leave my daughters at the table to order. All these places just microwave the slop they serve up, wetherspoons is far cheaper than all the green king, hungry horse, microwave shite and the service, beer, cleanliness etc is far better.
knockinonevansdoor@reddit
Food? That’s a hot take.
Enough-Fee-For-Me@reddit
It's awful, but I do appreciate a cheap pint
Wardicles87@reddit
Me and my family have made a thing of going for lunch at our local spoons because I travel a lot, a little goodbye for a while lunch.
To be honest I’ve noticed it’s gotten pricey but also do feel the quality of the food reflects that, I’ve noticed a good increase in quality from when I would go there for cheap and cheerful.
So no, it’s not a “bargain”…it’s reasonably priced decent food.
MildlyVexatious@reddit
I'd say so. Aways know what you're going to get there, and the drinks are cheap. Personally I like the new gourmet jacket potato's but wish they'd bring the burrito they did years ago back.
daviddawson325@reddit
Breakfast is good value but the rest is not a bargain anymore even the burger meals have gone up a huge amount over a few years
Thin-Dragonfruit2599@reddit
Still will be cheaper than many other establishments and you get a pint with it
ultimateberk@reddit
I was just commenting on this. Last year i was getting a burger with chips and a giant heineken for £5.99, long gone now
daviddawson325@reddit
Keep sneaking it up 40p every few months thinks we don't notice
Active_Doubt_2393@reddit
I simply don't like going on the places, they tend to be full of barely functioning alcoholics. At a push I'll have a pint in one, but the food tends to vary from awful to just about acceptable. Everything is either microwaved or fried in an oil which invariably needed changing at least a week ago.
sakmentoloki@reddit
It's cheaper than the alternatives, but outside the breakfast which I think is fine the food has taken a nose dive in recent years in terms of quality. But for the price it's tolerable on the odd occasion
Senior_Network_6870@reddit
Stopped going when stopped selling steak, tried the breakfast but that was cold so never came back
Careless_Tap1139@reddit
I’ve stopped using it because the portion size just shrank and shrank and many of my go to disappeared
nunsreversereverse@reddit
Comes into its own if you want a half decent beer with it. Big bottles of Asahi, be £6/£7 elsewhere. Not so much if you just want some water or a cup of tea.
tf46@reddit
Called in Wetherspoons as we were passing last Friday. Had 2 meals and 2 drinks for less than £20 for the 2 of us. Called in a Marstons Saturday night 2 meals and 2 drinks £38. Wish we'd gone back to spoons.
nyyeeaahhh@reddit
My local Spoons has been there 30 years and is always the cheapest, cleanest and best place to go to drink and cheap eat.
The company has had many big menu style changes. It’ll hold its own. Go Tim you big EU hating cheap pint flogging knight!
spaceshipcommander@reddit
You get exactly what you pay for. Find the same food for less elsewhere.
not_the_1_who_knows@reddit
The breakfast wraps are nice!
SmallHangryPlanet@reddit
The food is terrible, I know it's cheap but I wouldn't go in off my own choice.
If I'm eating out I'd rather pay more and have better quality.
Time-Invite3655@reddit
I used to enjoy the grills/steaks so I was sad when they stopped doing them. We probably go there once a month now, though often at breakfast time rather than for lunch. Comparatively, it is still affordable compared to many places and I like the accessibility of information on allergens and ingredients via the app.
Affectionate-Owl9594@reddit
I like that Facebook group that’s tracking the number of chips per meal at Wetherspoons. Some of them are absolutely shameful. But no, I don’t see it as a bargain - the quality is poor so I think the price reflects that.
MeMuzzta@reddit
I don't know if I dreamt it but I'm sure their chips used to always come with some sort of seasoning on them. This is going back years tho.
Xenc@reddit
How very British! It's a sad day when even the Spoons spuds are not safe.
two_beards@reddit
If you've got a good 'spoons, the pizza's are better than any high-street pizza place and as good as a lot of run of the mill indie places at a fraction of the price. There are a few really good independent artisan pizza places in towns I visit often that I know and trust, but they are all pretty pricey. If I fancy a pizza, have some spare cash and am in the right part of town, I'll go indie. If not, I'll go spoons.
I think the thing about 'spoons is that, pizza aside, most of the food is 5 or 6 out of 10, but you know that's what you're going to get. Go somewhere else and you pay more but could get a 10 out of 10 meal or you could get a 1 out of 10. Wetherspoons is low risk, low reward and sometimes that's exactly what people want or need. I used to travel around the country a lot and grabbing a meal in a local Wetherspoons was just easier than looking for somewhere else that would probably be more expensive and more hassle. I can go to 'spoons, order on my phone, put some headphones in and eat in peace.
Previous-Ad7618@reddit
Yup. Just went today with my kid. 2 fish and chips. A pint. An orange juice. £18.
I'd pay £18 for 1 fish and chips at my pub without a beer.
knight-under-stars@reddit
I can take my family of 6 to Spoons and it will cost me less than if we have KFC.
ConductorKitty@reddit
Not only that, but there’s probably going to be something to suit everyone’s taste. Youngest wants chicken nuggets and chips - they’ve got it, Grandma wants a baked potato - it’s on the menu, other half wants a pizza and to share some wings and halloumi fries with you - that’s on there too!
Plus soft drinks are ridiculously cheap compared to most other places. My local has kids smoothies for 79p so they can have a second round without me feeling ripped off. Or they can have a pint of squash and a mixer for like £1.50. Went to a cafe today and it was £1.75 for a fruit shoot…
regulator202@reddit
Yeah meal and a drink for 10 quid. Can't complain. Other pubs are microwaving their shit as well but charging you 16.99 for it without the drink
liltrex94@reddit
I have no idea. I havent bought a meal in wetherspoons for about 3 years. Used to love the breakfast muffin deal before work. But I tend to only eat out on date nights now and in a Turkish or Greek restaurants. I don't mind a spoons meal, but I thought only the breakfast or burgers were good. I moved away so no more spoons breakfast muffins and like I said, date night is Turkish or Greek because damn that food is so good!
ArtichokeDesperate68@reddit
Cheap garbage food yes.
Happy_Ad_3918@reddit
I think its a decent place to get a cheap meals, but the change from Beyond Burgers to whatever they class as veggie burgers now is a huge downgrade to the point I never bother buying them.
Still the best at what it does, but it’s going downhill imo.
Except spice bags, they’re bloody lovely
Yeorge@reddit
It’s the sit-down equivalent of a Tesco meal deal. Yeah it’s cheap and cheerful, but it’s decent for a quick bite and a drink. I’m happy with a chicken burger chips and a pint, especially if I’m in London, saving myself £15 compared with going to a restaurant.
jdirbfif@reddit
I wouldn’t say a bargain, the 3 for 10 small plates used to be a proper bargain, but that’s gone upto £15 for smaller portions in what seems like no time at all
Used to be worth a little detour on a road trip, but now I find myself going to takeaway instead.
Certain drinks are still a bargain though!
After-Huckleberry580@reddit
I’m happy with it. Hubby will have a large burger of some sort. Kid has curry, rice, and poppadoms. I’ll have a panini and chips, or the new fusion bowl. Couple of drinks each, lovely. Or if it’s just the adults we’ll have a couple of beers, some cocktails and then do some shots before heading home for a movie - we are in our 40s though so a bit quieter than we used to be.
rapafon@reddit
People like to hate on Weatherspoons because of the owner. Let's make one thing clear, all owners and CEOs of multi-billion pound corporations are of suspect character at best, and psychopaths at worst, so if that's the bar, you're 💩 out of luck.
I find that you can get a passable meal and a drink for a similar price to a McDonald's, if not cheaper, with many many more enjoyable drinks options. And most importantly, it's reliable, any spoons in the country will taste more or less the same.
Realistic-River-1941@reddit
It's changed from a bargain to "you get what you pay for - and it's cheap".
It's now a rival to a takeaway, rather than a different pub. The pub food gap has closed, and I'm now more willing to pay a bit more for something a lot better elsewhere.
Whole_Ad_8229@reddit
I'm not a wetherspoons customer but it's still cheap. Everywhere has increased their prices so although Wethers is more expensive than it used to be, it's still cheaper than everywhere else.
I wouldn't say it's a bargain as it's shite microwave food, but you couldn't grumble at the price either really.
HavokGB@reddit
The quality of food has noticeably declined, but prices are still very reasonable compared to McDonald’s, for example.
AnonymousTimewaster@reddit
It's insanely cheap. I'm shocked they haven't used their position to raise prices tbh.
iwantmuscle@reddit
I think the breakfast muffin deal with free drinks is a good deal. At a lunchtime I had the meat pudding, mashed potato and peas and it was gross, meat pudding was fine as were the peas, but the potato was seriously bad
Marvel--Jesus@reddit
Never been in a 'spoons. They always look busy when I'm driving by though. Not really much competition though is there ?
EnigmaUnveiled_999@reddit
Can't stand their owner.... Will go to the end of the earth, or without, before going to a spoons.
Prefer to give my money to smaller independent restaurants/ cafes when I'm out and about
trek123@reddit
The drinks across the board are a bargain, especially given the selection available.
However whilst yes the food is cheap still in most cases I find the value is not as good now. Yes prices have gone up everywhere, but the quality seems worse and the really "bargain" options like the steaks etc as you mention have gone. It is possible to find great value meals elsewhere if you know where to look, but yes it is not as easy as walking into a chain.
Another point is the differentiation on pricing by location. Many Zone 1 London Spoons are, imo, overpriced, particularly when you know in Zone 3 it can be half the amount for the exact same food. I know of cheaper pints and food in Zone 1 in particular Vs many of the central London spoons.
None of this is to knock it, I still go there. I do particularly think the breakfast options are good value.
nwdxan@reddit
Used to be. But as you say, the menu has gone from tolerable for the price, to just sh*t at any price.
We don't eat there anymore.
wallabyspinach@reddit
I’m partial to a Spoons curry on a Thursday when it’s cheap. I’m fully aware that there isn’t a chef in the kitchen carefully grinding and blending spices. I don’t know exactly how it’s made - probably comes in plastic bags and microwaved. But I don’t much care because it tastes good and is excellent value with the included pint. Incidentally, my partner who is from Gujerat and whose mother made curries from scratch everyday, tried a Spoons Jalfrezi and said it was okay. High praise from him.
Ill-Basil2863@reddit
They do an all day brunch with alcoholic drink for £6 in the one 3 doors from me. I can't make it at home for that
grownduskier@reddit
I do, yeah. Horrible owners but nowhere else can I get a meal and drink that cheap. I find the food "reliable" - ie. i don't expect a sensational meal but it's always tasty, filling, and cheap. I don't eat meat so the steak loss was no biggie for me, but they have great veggie options at affordable prices. I don't eat there often enough to remember the gourmet burgers or potatoes changing but they all seem fine still. What puts me off sometimes is the atmosphere - the groups of "all day drinkers", shall we say, who congregate the tables around the bar; and the screaming kids from large families. But I could say that about most pubs. Headphones in, order on the app, and I know I can be in and out within 25-30 minutes with a full belly.
CyberRaptor93@reddit
Wetherspoons good is straight up cardboard. I try to avoid it if I can
Pure-Coconut628@reddit
We live in fairly rural Wales and we love going there for food still, I'm vegetarian, my partner has so many food aversions and our toddler is just picky! We can eat out the three of us with my partner having a pint and we share a dessert for less that £30, literally can't eat anywhere cheaper, and the food I honestly dont think is any worse than any other chain restaurant (Marstons for example I think is so overpriced and horrible). We end up paying nearly as much for a maccies when we have to stop at services and like I say I personally think the food is better. Is it the best pub food ever? No. Would I prefer to go to the independent vegetarian pub half an hour away? Yes. Is it better and cheaper than most chain places? 100%
Lazy-Interests@reddit
I’ve always thought it was borderline inedible so nah it was never a bargain to me. Exchanging money I do want for something I don’t want is the opposite of a bargain.
TieDyePandas@reddit
Yeah, it's still relatively cheap to take the family for a decent meal and a drink there. it's usually fairly consistent on quality and the vibes are always okay.
TrueArmchairAthlete@reddit
I walked in earlier, looked at the vegetarian options -I used to always get a burger & a pint, or the lovely six-point brewery Bengal Tiger American double IPA, at a tad under a tenner I decided to forgo the flaccid 'the plant burger' and pop to the micro pub around the corner for a nice pint and a sandwich I grabbed on the way.
Enthusiast_EV@reddit
It's reasonably inexpensive, but I find it to be quite poor quality, to be honest most pub food from chains isn't great anyway now. It's all too over standardised and made for quick preparation. I wouldn't go there myself for food unless someone specifically wanted to. For drinks it's fine. I would have almost always ordered a mixed grill and it's a disappointment that it has been removed.
PipalaShone@reddit
It's actually good value, but you do have to be in a 'spoons to eat it which takes the appeal away for me.
arnie789@reddit
We gave up on Wetherspoons food at Birmingham Airport after about the third visit. Food was always Luke warm, expensive for what it was. Hot drinks machine always out of milk. Just not worth it.
glittertwunt@reddit
The last time I ate there was about 3 years ago, the 'gourmet' burger was truly the saddest thing I've ever been served in my life. No, it was not value for money, it was an absolute embarrassment. Never even considered ordering food there since.
lucylous2@reddit
The pizza and drink deal is still my favourite of all time and best around
Hayesey88@reddit
I would genuinely only eat at a spoons of I was looking to survive
cat5crochet5femme@reddit
Portions are small so no.
captainsittingduck@reddit
Happy to hear Wetherspoons is struggling
Helena_Handcart1@reddit
It’s not just the prices which are off-putting. In the beginning the food was cheapest, basic, but plentiful and relatively good. The last time I bought a chicken panini there, there were precisely 2x chicken strips less than 0.5cm wide and about 2cm long in the whole thing. Awful. Never eaten there again.
marquoth_@reddit
I rate spoons for breakfast but not much else. You can point to the "burger and a pint" deals if you like but the other pub chains do those as well and generally much better quality. A Mitchell and Butler or a Greene King would be preferable.
Shalashaska23@reddit
I really like the fish and chips. That and a beer for 13 quid is unbelievable value. They are one of the few places I can get good cask and craft beers where I live also. There is a lot to like about Spoons.
mrsdontknowwhoiam@reddit
It’s cheaper for us as a family of 3 adults to eat at Wetherspoon than it is getting McDonald’s so yes I consider it to be value for money for what it is.
tomvoxx@reddit
Not a bargain but a reasonable price for what you get. Just compare the prices with nearby cafes and you’ll see that it’s still a decent deal. The
solar1ze@reddit
We don’t eat in there anymore since they stopped doing steak. Used to go maybe once a week. Steak used to be great and we’re not too keen on the new menu.
TrackNinetyOne@reddit
I can absolutely guarantee the people who complain about spoons not being cheap are people who never, to very rarely, eat out anywhere else
chocolateybiscuit81@reddit
Yes. I work away from home all over the UK and spoons is pretty consistent everywhere. Its cheap enough, I know what they have on offer, service is really quick, staff are friendly. Cant fault it tbh. Especially when I’m working in London.
BrienneTheOathkeeper@reddit
Yes. We are a family of 4 and couldn’t afford to eat out otherwise. The one near us is lovely aswell and the staff are great.
friendlygreengarden@reddit
It’s a bargain, but the food items don’t interest me anymore. Haven’t been there for food since they changed the menu
Rude-Possibility4682@reddit
Last time I went, the portions felt tiny, as if someone had counted out the chips onto the plate, and said no more than ten!
BocaSeniorsWsM@reddit
Breakfast muffin including unlimited coffee for £4.09? Fuck me, absolutely YES!!
FewAnybody2739@reddit
For hot food and a drink, with comfier than average chairs, and table service, yes. You've got 'normal' pubs complaining that they've got people queueing, when the solution is to have table service or get more staff.
surfermark99@reddit
It is an absolute bargain.
LingonberryNo3548@reddit
I used to think the food was pretty decent and worth the money but the changes are really pushing it. The reduction in quality food like doing away with the steaks and decoupling the paninis from the chips hurts how I view the brand. It’s not really decent food for good prices anymore but rather just about okay food for just about okay prices.
LlurkingLlama23@reddit
I haven't been back since they changed the menu, the steak was my favourite. (I know somebody else who stopped going because they used to like the mixed grill.)
BeKind321@reddit
Their burger and chips was edible but never again.
Cheap beer still compared to most places, so ok for a few pints with decent company but as they open so early a lot of customers are pissed by lunchtime …
Thoughtless-Test@reddit
3 for £10 small plate mondays and breakfast are the only ones i do now tbh
mdzmdz@reddit
The 3-for-10 Mondays (or 3-for-12 Mon-Wed in some) annoys me a bit because, and I realise this is my 'fault' but they're offering in some cases 22.50 worth of food for a tenner - so it's very tempting, but at the same time I shouldn't be eating my weight in fried chicken.
Postik123@reddit
Same here, the 3 small plates for £15 (didn't know they did it for £10 on a Monday). They are genuinely filling.
Even the burgers are kind of sorrowful now. Their chips are minging and the burger comes with about 6 of them, and nothing else.
Thoughtless-Test@reddit
Yer i often get 3 plates of wings or a pizza wings and hallumi.
Yer am not a fan of the burgers or other dishes tbh
bowen7477@reddit
I bumped into an old mate yesterday. Naturally I asked him what he's upto.
He said he was feeding alcoholics, down and outs and the homeless.
Wow I said, you work for a charity?
He replied, no, I'm a chef at spoons.
geekyminx@reddit
I miss the mixed grill and the steak but we just went out for a bank holiday lunch for four with three people drinking alcohol for £42. That’s pretty unprecedented nowadays. Is the food the best? No. But is it decent and somewhere ok to go for a catch up? Yes.
Cearball@reddit
Not the food even the drinks aren't always great.
I normally avoid anything on tap
Umi_Go_Zoomy@reddit
No. The quality and options have gone downhill. So even if it is relatively "cheap", it's not a bargain because it doesn't taste nice (or even ok) anymore and it's not worth what you pay.
Geepandjagger@reddit
They don't pretend that it is anything that it is not. I don't expect much, I don't get much and I don't pay much. I think the price for what you get and the locations you get it in is very good
Automatic_Screen1064@reddit
Cheap and cheerful - yes, bargin - no
HoboStrider@reddit
Still get a breakfast there but notice a bit of a difference in quality from a standard pub breakfast. I like how it's a consistent place to get affordable food.
I have a feeling things going on and just having it as an option I can go and get a basic meal is actually nice.
Less and less options. Do they still do that half roast chicken?
The grills a bit of a let down. Steak is a safe and quick option that can be healthy. Feels like everywhere is just doing burgers and loaded chips.
tmr89@reddit
No steaks anymore
Richard__Papen@reddit
What does loaded chips mean?
HoboStrider@reddit
Like loaded with bits of chicken and cheese and stuff. Not saying it isn't tasty but I missed just getting a basic healthidh meal. Like a grill, salad and some potatoes. It's not like I don't want chips but I like a healthy option I can turn down. 😅
Richard__Papen@reddit
😀😀
Chips loaded with chicken sounds weird. You mean sort of mixed in with the chips, rather than at the side?
HoboStrider@reddit
Yeah just all mixed together. I think they call it a Irish Spice bag but clearly just using the left over chicken, chicken gougons and nuggets. Some places do it with chilli.
Richard__Papen@reddit
Irish Spice Bag. I'd have assumed there was something different in that!!
Seems I've a lot to learn about food!!
Lower_Inspector_9213@reddit
With cheese ?
Richard__Papen@reddit
Oh ok cheers, sounds potentially tasty
Limp-Archer-7872@reddit
The half chicken was good. Shame they stopped doing it.
Right now the pizzas are good, the small plates are good. But it's not the same since they lost the mixed grill. I understand the steak problem with returns though. Some of the meals seem smaller too, skimping on chips or side salad/veg.
The curries have been a big let down recently. Not enough curry. I had two small pieces of fish in a recent one, it's not on. Avoid.
HoboStrider@reddit
The nans and poppadoms are decent just needs a bit more chicken or lamb in there. I think they do a curry club one day.
Verdigri5@reddit
They've dropped all the grills now.
tmr89@reddit
Still relatively “cheap”, but the food quality has decreased noticeably in the last few years
zombiezmaj@reddit
Still a bargain but no clue why they got rid of mixed grills... competitors like green king still do mixed grills for less than £15
TheRadishBros@reddit
Yes, it’s insanely cheap for what you get. I can’t think of any comparison.
mdzmdz@reddit
Generally it doesn't seem as good as it used to be, and a perception I have is that it used to be subsidised to an extent by the drink (as in total spent once there) but now the numbers don't work for that.
abyssal-isopod86@reddit
I don't eat out anymore, it's too expensive.
Plus 9/10 my own homemade burgers are better and cooked and seasoned exactly the way I like them.
massdebate159@reddit
I prefer to support proper pubs, not chains. Wetherspoons pubs are genuinely awful, and I need headphones to focus in there.
ultimateberk@reddit
And everyone ive been in has the same grubby sodden grimey chairs and carpet they had when they first opened. Everytime you go in one it just gets filthier and sadder
massdebate159@reddit
All the alcoholics with the shakes queueing up for their first pint of the day at 8am
ultimateberk@reddit
Theres one old cnut in my local who thinks he is some kind of ronnie kray who spends his entire day there, does not give a single care about swearing around children and gets more and more hateful and racist as the day goes on. Alwaya dreasing up in his trench coat, shirt tie and cufflinks, shiny shoes like he is some kind of big shot in his own reality show. Who are you fooling, you are an old bitter hateful waste of space drunk, dressing up to drink at 8am in spoons doesnt fool anyone
Powerful_Set_2350@reddit
Breakfasts are the cheapest calories for money around.
I think the jacket potatoes are a bit on the pricey side, for what is ultimately just a potato. Although, I have not tried them, so maybe the additional ingredients are worth it?
SpitfireEU@reddit
We went in a Wetherspoons at a haven site in Yorkshire and the prices were mostly 100% more with a few things like burgers being 50% more. The crux is that spoons food has never been good, only good for the price you Diddnt mind because you knew what you was paying for but suddenly when your spoons burger is the same price as a gourmet burger restaurant it’s not even close to being worth it.
mdzmdz@reddit
One thing to mention is that someone did a study (FT I think) and the prices vary greatly depending on the location - and I don't just mean property values but local competition and type of customers.
For example in Bristol the two "student" ones have (had?) a cheap all week "specials" menu - small breakfast £3.50, tea and toast £1.50 etc.
Then, you have the central ones next to hotels where the breakfast is a quid or two more because they've got the customers and it's still cheaper than eating in at the Travellodge.
The others are somewhere in-between.
Horror_Ad8573@reddit
The food in spoons has improved lately. A short while ago you could count the chips with a meal in one hand, the burgers were like rubber. Recently portions are better, food is hot and generally tastes ok. It's better value than most restaurants today but you know your not getting or expecting cordon bleu food.
With so many pubs though quality can vary a great deal.
Ricky_Martins_Vagina@reddit
I don't see it as a 'bargain' because it isn't particularly great quality food.
It's cheap and may sometimes 'hit the spot' but let's be honest, you're getting what you pay for.
Loxnaka@reddit
i think it depends. city centre spoons cost alot more than smaller towns spoons for example whereas chain restaurant prices tend to be more consistent (like nandos for example). In smaller towns i think spoons is much cheaper than anywhere else, which to be fair you could spin as a bad thing as it makes it hard to compete.
alanm1986@reddit
i went about a month ago, havent been for a year or so and forgot reading online the steaks had gone as fancied a cheap one with a beer plus getting the partner and kids food, just went for a burger and pint in the end, enjoyed it, cheap and filling and everyone was full after a shopping trip, shame I forgot the steaks and mixed grills are no longer though, I wouldnt knock the place myself
obolobolobo@reddit
I had a burger last week. I won’t be making that mistake again. I used to rate them as equivalent to your average high street chicken shop burger. Eatable, if not ideal, but served in a pub garden. Last week’s burger was like a warmed up drink’s coaster and the fries were literally polystyrene.
SpudFire@reddit
Yes when you get one of the food + pint deals. That's often cheaper than other cheap chains just for the food
oohliviaa@reddit
I don’t think it’s a bargain but I know what to expect. Even some other chain pubs don’t have the same consistency and quick service that I can expect in Wetherspoons for the price in there.
404pbnotfound@reddit
Wetherspoons is the best value breakfast in my town - it’s got a bad reputation because it’s spoons, but honestly it’s very chill in the mornings. I like it.
beepbop24hha@reddit
Yeah, we all know the quality isn’t great but personally I can’t justify spending £18-£25 per meal at any other place unless it’s a very special occasion. Wetherspoons prices are cheap and cheerful and has probably ruined my expectations of other restaurants because I look at the menu and think fuck paying £23 for a simple burger and fries.
rbrown1991@reddit
Still very good value compared to the other alternatives but I do miss the steaks though. I go there far less now.
Ok-Airline-7167@reddit
Used to love their mixed grill but now it’s all these cheaper alternatives that feel a bit sad. Price versus quality just isn’t the same anymore, so the bargain vibe is gone.
KingslandGrange@reddit
That's the problem for me, in a nutshell.
Used to be cheap enough to justify not being great. Now it's not.
Fit-Bedroom-7645@reddit
I used to love the mixed grills, shame their gone. But if you've got a table full of people, getting a bunch of the wee pizzas and sides to share still comes in pretty cheap
Sound_User@reddit
I don't know if tje menu has changed everywhere? But they got rid of the grill and everything is shite now.
On_The_Blindside@reddit
No, I think the quality is appalling, really find downhill imho
Ok-Chest-7932@reddit
Whetherspoons hasn't been a bargain since I first went into a whetherspoons 3 years and 10 months ago.
DrHydeous@reddit
I always saw it as cheap rubbish. Making it even rubbisher isn't going to make any difference.
TwoValuable@reddit
Wetherspoons definitely fits it's role as a cheap pub with grub. On weekends especially it's competition isn't doing food and a drink per person nearly as cheap. It is very much a bargain with the knowledge you're not paying for gourmet or bistro style dining.
It is definitely not struggling by any means, as seen by it's profits and the fact that most evenings and weekends you struggle to find a seat in a spoons.
As an employee you're probably getting told by management and head office about all the "struggles" as a way to try to encourage the upsell whilst in the tills and discourage staff from wanting more money/benefits etc.
gr33nday4ever@reddit
we only ever go there for breakfast, a full english at that price (and size) is definitely still a bargain in my eyes (and it includes a raspberry lemonade!)
angrypolishman@reddit
Wednesday 7.50ish for a pizza and an alcoholic drink bosh
MissingLink101@reddit
Used to love the Thursday Curry Night when I lived near one
Repulsive_Dig_133@reddit
Yeah, Still good. Used to get chilli and chips in weatherspoons around 2000, and latest was sausage beans and chips this year , ordered from the table, along with rounds, with the app ! Amazing.
Beautiful_Spread7866@reddit
The new menu isn’t anywhere near as good as it was back in the day. The Triple Chicken Feast and the old chicken wings were amazing. We rarely go now as might as well have a nice meal out instead. Glad we smashed it during eat out to help out to get our fill 😂
hydrora31@reddit
Half the price of anywhere else, good food that's not just fast food crap? Yeah It's a bargain. One of the few places left in the country you can reliably get a quality meal without selling your home.
DoctorWhofan789eywim@reddit
Wetherspoons is the only eat out food I see as a bargain. Amazing value, especially the curries. Almost everywhere else is overpriced, even McDonalds.
Debenham@reddit
I guess. In an objective sense, yes it is a bargain.
But, having said that, while once I'd actually go to Wether spoons in the expectation of getting a fairly good meal for my money, now I think it's a fairly mediocre meal.
And sure, snobs will say it's all mediocre and in the wider scheme of things it was, but for 10-15 with a pint, it was pretty good. Now though, there's not much on the menu that I find tempting.
ultimateberk@reddit
I dont find it cheap anymore personally. Not the bargain it once was. Its still good value on some food items but i find the qualitys not as good, the options arent as good and a lot of stuff i once enjoyed has gone or been manipulated to be not as good value. I remember a year ago i was ordering a burger with chips and a huge bottle of heineken for £5.99. Now its a lot more. Personally dony eat there anymore, ill take my money to the local chicken shop and get a meal deal of wings, thigh, chips and a can of coke for a fiver
MonkeyHamlet@reddit
Not any more. Used to be a place to get an acceptable steak as a reasonable price, now the booze is no cheaper than my local and the food is slop.
I live in Outer London, if that helps.
Slugdoge@reddit
A pint and a meal for just over £10 is definitely a bargain. All the pubs nearby in London are £7 minimum.
WillowTreeBark@reddit
£7 or something for an american cheese burger, chips and a beer. Lovely deal.
iamsheena@reddit
I like it for a breakfast!
NoEnthusiasm2@reddit
I don't like it any more. It's like canteen food now. Even though we all knew the microwave was working flat out, the steak and the peri chicken still felt like proper food.
SoggyWotsits@reddit
Absolutely. Especially when you take into consideration the higher costs of buying everything in, the higher energy costs (no cap on business energy bills), higher business rates, higher minimum wage and national insurance contributions, plus the fact that significantly fewer people are going to pubs now.
Bobby_-_D@reddit
I found the food off putting when I worked in the kitchen. But I have found the food off putting in every kitchen I have worked in after a couple months. It is absolutely fine for what it is.
MrSam52@reddit
I mean their prices are competing with McDonald, I’d probably say the food is nicer than McDonald’s and it’s a nicer environment to eat in (in most cases).
TheMarkMatthews@reddit
Most spoons customers would eat shit if it cost £5 and came with a free pint of carlsberg
Asleep-Software-4160@reddit
Cheap and not very cheerful, and I'm okay with that. It's the people I'm at the pub with that make it a good time, not the decor.
ZeroFrogsHere@reddit
Will accept a drink in spoons when skint as believe the pints are decently priced.
My pal was a KP for spoons for many years and would send us videos of them preparing food. Everything that could possibly be microwaved is. Very off putting and wouldn't eat there
Richard__Papen@reddit
What's the anti-microwave thing?
ZeroFrogsHere@reddit
Eggs
Richard__Papen@reddit
I didn't know you could make eggs in a microwave! Does it matter, though, if they taste alright?
ZeroFrogsHere@reddit
I never minded spoons food until my mate started sending us videos, I suppose it's hard to explain without them
Richard__Papen@reddit
I mean generally you don't want to know the behind-the-scenes for eating out.
skatemoose@reddit
Yeah, I still find it cheap, especially as a drink is included in the price. I'd easily be paying at least 50% more else where without the drink where I live. However, I wouldn't choose it if I were planning a meal out, I only eat in there to line my stomach before drinking or if out shopping and don't fancy BK/McDs ect but don't want to spend too much on food.
SushiRollFried@reddit
Rubbish quality, small portions and overpriced.
blue_rizla@reddit
Rubbish quality, perfectly fine portions, and very low-priced compared to anything else remotely comparable
BeneficialJuice2878@reddit (OP)
I actually think greene king pubs are better in quality for the price. They have side plates that are only a few pounds or pretty decent (better than spoons) food if you want a proper meal…
matomo23@reddit
It depends on which Greene King brand they use. The Flamin Grill menu is 100% beige and completely flavourless. It’s quite some accomplishment.
Most_Moose_2637@reddit
I'll never forgive them for stopping the chicken alfredo. NEVER.
maersyl@reddit
I don't think anyone goes to Spoons expecting quality, so I don't think many people will care. Those of us who do care about quality go elsewhere.
Veinmire@reddit
Wetherspoons portion sizes for the price are pretty fucking amazing honestly. £5.95 for the loaded chips with cheese and bacon and you could share it with two other people.
NecroVelcro@reddit
No. I had a breakfast there a few months ago and it was of such shitty quality that it would have felt overpriced even if it had only been a quid.
DiskBytes@reddit
No surprise really. I used to like the burgers, they were quality, empire steak burger. Then they went to some horrid poor quality stuff, never ate there again.
CrowApprehensive204@reddit
I'll occasionally have a jacket potato for lunch, it's cheaper than a supermarket lunch. I used to like the wrap/panini with chips but you only get about five chips now, even though you pay separate for them. And I've noticed if I go with my partner and we both have fish and chips, he'll always get a bigger portion which annoys me immensely
fvalconbridge@reddit
Me and everyone I know stopped going there for this exact reason so yes.
Nielips@reddit
That any more the food is pretty poor quality.
Maverick_Heathen@reddit
I'd rather not eat than buy spoons food
Dartzap@reddit
I actually quite like the jacket potatoes. Can't remember which one it is, but the spicey pulled meat version is genuinely one of the tastiest things I've had in ages.
moosemobile17@reddit
Would agree with many of the comments already posted, I am an ale drinker and there is always a variety on offer at my local. Up to 8 cask ales (unless one is cleaning) year round for a bargain price. Detest the owner though.
SmartPipe3882@reddit
I don't think I've noticed an appreciable difference in my perception of quality or value. I've always thought it was shit, and it's never surprised me by being anything else. For hot meal and a drink, I think it's priced fairly.
buntypieface@reddit
Nope. I used to love their big breakfasts. Last time I had one, it was shit. Meagre portions and overpriced. Disappointing.
jazzyl2025@reddit
I did, til my local one got a 1 star hygiene rating. I cant eat there now. Which is a shame as its one of the few places my dad likes.
NoisyGog@reddit
It was never a bargain, just really cheap and sufficiently “not terrible” to get you by.
I’d think of a bargain as being cheaper than you’d expect to pay for a given quality.
BG3restart@reddit
I think it's still super cheap and definitely cheaper than anywhere else I eat.
Remote_Development13@reddit
Yes, but I wouldnt if my pint of Guinness wasnt included in the cost
Wise-Independence487@reddit
I can’t remember the last time I went for food. If I’m eating out I’d rather pay that premium and get something a bit better. I still nip in for a drink occasionally and specially if I’m needing the loo and I’m out
Mammoth-Squirrel2931@reddit
Only the new jacket potatoes with fillings plus a glass of red wine for, I think, £8 but generally the portion sizes have become minute
box_frenzy@reddit
The pizzas not too bad
CalTurner@reddit
Dont see spoons as a restaurant, just some thing to eat while having a drink so if 8 can get discounted pint with overpriced food then win.
Boboshady@reddit
My limited experience of the 'new' menu is it's pretty decent - a decent range of lighter bites and table snacks, which along with the cheap drinks, make it a decent enough venue. Table service is great, too.
I'm not going for fine dining or even superb food, just cost-effective without being actively shit, and it's pulled that off for me a few times recently.
Suspicious-Brick@reddit
The portions were noticeably much smaller when I went in last about a year ago. I think a lot of them you can get cheaper in the ready meal section of the supermarket but for a meal out I understand why people would eat there.
WIZZZARDOFFREESTYLE@reddit
nothing beats a spoons 👊
Absolute bangin 👊
bosh 👊
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