Gulf airlines now operating at half capacity as recovery continues - charts
Posted by TheNational_News@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 27 comments
Posted by TheNational_News@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 27 comments
Longjumping-Pea-2876@reddit
It's almost like relying entirely on a massive widebody hub-and-spoke model becomes a massive liability the second global transit demand drops tbh. flying half-empty a380s is just burning cash at this point.
mvpilot172@reddit
Those countries aren’t going to allow their flag carriers to fail, they’ll have plenty of cash.
Twitter_2006@reddit
Love the aircraft because its an engineering marvel and amazing to fly on as a passenger, but other than that, no thanks if I'm the airline.
SIIP00@reddit
Depends on the airline, it has been essential for Emirates and lots of airlines have extended their plans with them.
Twitter_2006@reddit
I wish the A380 had Freighter versions built.
sofixa11@reddit
I mean, it's not like point to point airlines using narrow bodies do dramatically better in case of global transit demand dropping. Both styles are fucked, one is just a big worse off.
And in this case, demand hasn't dropped at all, there is just a war preventing lots of travel.
SIIP00@reddit
Demand has not dropped. It is more-so less supply due to limitations with air space and the risks of bombs dropping in the gulf nations.
They would be completely fins if their hub was in Instanbul for example.
joshwa1290@reddit
Asking as I’m an Australian who’s travelling from Australia to London in September with emirates via Dubai, what would the airlines do if this was continuing on in 6 months or even years? Can they set up new hubs that avoid the Middle East or they’ll continue to take it day to day as they have been?
Mikefrommke@reddit
The three major Middle East carriers are basically a branch of those countries governments. Even if they found an airport that would work, not visiting their home countries is a major issue. I think they’d rather park the planes.
lordnacho666@reddit
I wonder if somewhere like Ethiopia sees an opportunity here? It's just on the other side of Saudi Arabia, I would imagine a flight to Asia or Australia would be similar.
sofixa11@reddit
Ethiopian already have a big hub in Addis, and are building a new and bigger one. They might be able to take some of the demand if they can scale up. But they are range constrained due to their airport's height.
ozg111@reddit
Istanbul is more likely
SIIP00@reddit
in September you should be fine. The war will either be over or they will find a secondary hub.
leesionn@reddit
I’d imagine that (barring any strikes on infrastructure like airports), they would have established safe flight paths especially in terms of take off and landing to clear any potential dangerous airspace as quickly and safely as possible.
I think the Iraq war was something like 4-6 weeks of massively disrupted operations and then a gradual return to stable, largely recovered operations
Gluecksritter90@reddit
I am actually still amazed so many passengers are still willing to fly through these airports despite, you know, the occasional ballistic missile.
gianiisvat@reddit
I am also thinking about it for a trip in late June to Jakarta. 600 to fly though Abu Dhabi vs 1350 via Singapore
SmartRefuse@reddit
$750 is worth it to guarantee not being shot down bye a middle.
gianiisvat@reddit
It is 2 tickets, so 1500 for both. Still thinking about it...
ZeePirate@reddit
So that means you are questioning if the cost of your life is $750….
gianiisvat@reddit
I depends on the probability. At 1% it is 75.000, at 0.1% it is 750.000 .... Will wait this week and then decide.
jontech7@reddit
I flew through Dubai a week ago on Emirates (and also 10 days before that). It was fine, and the plane was only like 70-80% full so me and my Dad ended up getting an entire row for 17 hours (I'm not sure how I would have survived that flight without that lol)
I wasn't really worried about getting shot down, instead I was focused on delays. All of my flights to and from Dubai were on time, but I spoke to some people in the Dubai airport who had flights cancelled or delayed, and ended up getting stuck there longer than expected. Obviously there's an elevated risk to your safety just being in the region, but I think it's much more likely that your plans might get disrupted by a random drone or missile. Whether you should travel through the ME really depends on how flexible you can be with your schedule, because the situation can always change over there
justhereforoneday@reddit
Got first class from BKK with emirates for 4 people at 6k. Current prices are a joke.
lizardman49@reddit
The average person is incredibly stupid. More news at 12
__bee_07@reddit
Seems that there is no bonuses this year for Emirates and Qatar Airways staffs
sneijder@reddit
Don’t be sleeping on their cargo operations and the price of cargo forwarding now as capacity is throttled, especially pharma.
sneijder@reddit
The be clear, their actual freighters.
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