Maybe it wasn't the wisest move to dismantle their energy infrastructure just so they could virtue signal about going green. Now they're forced to import from Russia and fund that war machine, or attempt to import from the Middle East and deal with the associated uncertainty.
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This has nothing to do with jet fuel, and in fact switching energy production to renewables is by far the smartest move for most European countries, precisely because of the uncertainty around oil.
Dismantle what exactly? The main reason Europe is producing less oil than 30 years ago is the depletion of a number of oil fields.
Calling the needed switch to renewables "greenwashing" while also pointing out the dependency of imported oil, especially from Russia, is in itself contradictory.
'dismantling their energy infrastructure'. Last time I looked, going solar/wind energy instead of coal to produce electricity for domestic and industrial use was not something that was going to replace the jet fuel for our aircraft.
Nope, oil production in Europe just accounts for 4% of the global demand, the reason we're having to import jet fuel is because the amounts we produce aren't suffice for the quantities we use, not because we're 'going green'.
If? They already have skyrocketed, though naturally it could still get worse. United's quoted as saying as things are already, their fuel bill by the end of the year would be an additional $11 billion. Airlines around the world are already slashing hundreds or thousands of flights just through to May to cut down on operations and fuel usage, ticket prices are getting jacked up.
And then of course supply becomes the question too.
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Where are you based? Tankering due to cost reasons is forbidden in the EU. Is this a theoretical value or are you actually still doing it? 1400€ is actually insane by the way...
Probably yes.... I mean... "Oh no, there is a PROB30 TEMPO CB 13 hours after our sceduled arrival... Better take 7 hours of extra fuel" is probably something you will hear in the next weeks.
I just watched a video on oil shock. It’s only still ok here in the US because the last ships that made it through haven’t all yet arrived (the last have arrived at ports closer to the Middle East). The end of that armada will reach here in a couple of weeks. Then, the video says, we will feel it bad.
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Maybe it wasn't the wisest move to dismantle their energy infrastructure just so they could virtue signal about going green. Now they're forced to import from Russia and fund that war machine, or attempt to import from the Middle East and deal with the associated uncertainty.
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This has nothing to do with jet fuel, and in fact switching energy production to renewables is by far the smartest move for most European countries, precisely because of the uncertainty around oil.
rubioburo@reddit
What are you talking about? West and Central Europe never had much petroleum under their soil.
Glasgesicht@reddit
Dismantle what exactly? The main reason Europe is producing less oil than 30 years ago is the depletion of a number of oil fields.
Calling the needed switch to renewables "greenwashing" while also pointing out the dependency of imported oil, especially from Russia, is in itself contradictory.
Kanyiko@reddit
'dismantling their energy infrastructure'. Last time I looked, going solar/wind energy instead of coal to produce electricity for domestic and industrial use was not something that was going to replace the jet fuel for our aircraft.
Nope, oil production in Europe just accounts for 4% of the global demand, the reason we're having to import jet fuel is because the amounts we produce aren't suffice for the quantities we use, not because we're 'going green'.
SimilarTranslator264@reddit
Easy now you aren’t supposed to say that part out loud!!!
MancyMancy@reddit
America and Israel has truly fucked the global economy. Its insane they are still escalating, we are all fucked.
muecugem@reddit
There would be a case for suspending ReFuel EU
FullstackSensei@reddit
If jet fuel prices skyrocket, it won't be only in Europe. Everyone will feel the pain, including Americans.
This is, by no means, an Europe only problem, and Europeans will know exactly who to put the blame on.
railker@reddit
If? They already have skyrocketed, though naturally it could still get worse. United's quoted as saying as things are already, their fuel bill by the end of the year would be an additional $11 billion. Airlines around the world are already slashing hundreds or thousands of flights just through to May to cut down on operations and fuel usage, ticket prices are getting jacked up.
And then of course supply becomes the question too.
PropOnTop@reddit
Yay, more money for dictators!
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Sand0rf@reddit
Jet-A prices already skyrocketed. My local flying flying club (Rotterdam EHRD) pays almost double for Jet-A since December…
maxstryker@reddit
If we tanker from FCO we currently have a €1400 gain. It’s insane.
Fitzefitzefatze@reddit
Where are you based? Tankering due to cost reasons is forbidden in the EU. Is this a theoretical value or are you actually still doing it? 1400€ is actually insane by the way...
Mean_Passenger_7971@reddit
At this point tankering for cost reasons is cheaper than the fines.
Fitzefitzefatze@reddit
Probably yes.... I mean... "Oh no, there is a PROB30 TEMPO CB 13 hours after our sceduled arrival... Better take 7 hours of extra fuel" is probably something you will hear in the next weeks.
tamboril@reddit
I just watched a video on oil shock. It’s only still ok here in the US because the last ships that made it through haven’t all yet arrived (the last have arrived at ports closer to the Middle East). The end of that armada will reach here in a couple of weeks. Then, the video says, we will feel it bad.
parody_of_life_@reddit
Are you referring to that one short where guy explained with a visual animation! That was cool, just saw that an hour ago
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