Anyone found it touching that after all the years data was mia, laforge and him were still best friends in the Picard finale?

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Torlek1@reddit

I wonder if PIC S3 will finally cause Trek fans to rewatch Nemesis more.

I don't like that film myself, but I do wonder.

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babiekittin@reddit

What is this Nemesis you're talking about? The last Star Trek movie was First Contact.

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Waste-Dragonfruit229@reddit

No no, you're forgetting the one where Data reveals his primary purpose is as a floatation device. I think it was called Star Trek: Attack of the Stretchy-Faced People.

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BalasaarNelxaan@reddit

I will always be of the view that the most infuriating thing about that film is that it is so so so close to being a great proper Star Trek movie..

In the middle of a war posing an existential threat to the Federation where people are dying left right and centre they come across a planet with the magical ability to heal people. However, in order to use it they have to break the prime directive. Cue a conflict between Picard the idealist (TNG esque writing) and an antagonist who argues the ends justify the men’s (DS9 esque writing).

That scene where Picard and Dennehy are in the ready room is one of the finest scenes in the whole franchise. Picard’s “how many people does it take before it becomes wrong” speech is absolutely stellar.

How did they get it so wrong?

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beetlejuice1984@reddit

To me, it makes a great star trek double episode. Its not the massive blockbuster film of First Contact, but a hell of a opening to a season 8 that never came.

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poptophazard@reddit

Read Michael Piller's book "Fade In" about the writing/production of Insurrection. It's very transparent about everything that went wrong and what the movie could've been. (I still enjoy the film for what it is, flaws and all, but it had the bones to be so much more).

While not responsible for everything that's wrong with it, Patrick Stewart meddled a lot, often for the worse.

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WiglyWorm@reddit

Um, excuse me, I think you're forgetting about Crisis Points 1 and 2.

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BK_0000@reddit

Nemesis is a masterpiece compared to Picard.

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Triad64@reddit

Rene: "I'm not your uncle. It's the other way around." :D

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StillhasaWiiU@reddit

I rewatched.it last month, it's just a bland story. The characters just didn't do much.

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Misaniovent@reddit

I just watched Nemesis for the first time. It was fine!

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BalasaarNelxaan@reddit

IMO now that Nemesis is no longer the final chapter it’s slightly more tolerable. A lot of the bad taste of that film is that the TNG crew deserved a better send off.

The events of S1 and S3 effectively reframe that film as a traumatic milestone from which the crew had to slowly recover.

Data’s death and Riker and Troi leaving the Enterprise leads to Picard deciding to accept promotion and then throw himself into the Romulan rescue effort. Then the synths rebel and Picard leaves Starfleet under a cloud.

Then we find him decades later trying to process his suppressed grief over Data’s death in a world where Starfleet is no longer what he wants it to be and synthetics are banned and treated like the bogeymen. The events of Nemesis being the catalyst for that story actually fits nicely.

I mean it’s still a shit film and Stuart Baird can rot in Hollywood Hell for what he did.

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Torlek1@reddit

My question is within the broader context of franchise fatigue.

Spiner said he hoped Nemesis would have been the first part in a two-part final chapter. The second part, however, would be a TNG-DS9-VOY crossover.

It's a double-edged sword, given what we know now about Marvel franchise fatigue.

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beetlejuice1984@reddit

I wanted to hear it was Geordi that looked after spot in her final years.

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l008com@reddit

They killed him. Then he came back. Then they killed him again. Then he came back AGAIN.

At what point does nothing mean anything anymore?

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Larielia@reddit

A very touching reunion.

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ClutchReverie@reddit

I thought Data died in Nemesis?

I haven't watched Picard yet though I 100% will. Just haven't gotten to watching much of anything these last few years.

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tininai@reddit

They somehow got the data transfer work on b4 I guess. So it is Data's memory in b4's body? Or they used b4's body but the extra head they still have from the time traveling episode?

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Regular_Jim081@reddit

That's the neat thing, he did.

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spaghettibolegdeh@reddit

Since when were they best friends lol

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Available_Sir5168@reddit

I don’t get it. Is data dead or not? Was he killed or not? It’s like they regretted killing him in Nemesis

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juliet_alpha16@reddit

I know I did. I just find it amazing that Data had some amazing faith in Geord to have him go poking around in his head. Literally.

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ericsonofbruce@reddit

Thats what friendship is homie

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Kahnza@reddit

I don't watch the new shit. TNG, Voyager, and DS9 are all I need!

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ReadySteady_54321@reddit

Picard S3 is basically S8 of TNG.

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Triad64@reddit

It's even more, because the characters grew and had flaws in ways they never would in the series, and yet it feels completely right and needed after 30 years.

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OkJelly8882@reddit

I call it Star Trek: the Previous Generation.

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rando1459@reddit

I nope’d out of Enterprise as soon as I heard lyrics in the intro.

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Historyp91@reddit

When you come across someone complaining about the ENT theme song in the wild in 2026:

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d1rron@reddit

SNW is decent so far.

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Colodavo@reddit

Ok boomer

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d1rron@reddit

I dont think I finished Picard. I had high hopes, but meh. Season 2 was unbearable lol.

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so-semi-precious@reddit

IMO season one was ‘fine’ season two sucked so much season three was slightly better than ‘fine’ with some pretty big highlights

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Triad64@reddit

If I could add my humble opinion and subtle observations, it's a whole lot better than slightly better than fine. :D

It hits a grand slam and rights several wrongs the franchise endured in Nemesis. It does so many little and big things right, and lets the characters shine for the first time in some ways they never could in TNG.

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PastorNTraining@reddit

…again…

He has risen, again.

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