I have 2 points on my record and a year of experience , if a choice between me and another driver with 3 months experience but clean record and zero points , who is going to get hired ?
Posted by East_Indication_7816@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 53 comments
kickniteasy@reddit
Whoever is cheaper to insure. You keep saying 2 points isn't a big deal but 2 points and a recent incident is a big deal to insurance companies. I get where you're coming from, things happen and nobody is perfect all the time, but money is often the deciding factor all other things being equal.
PathofEnlightment@reddit
Not You.
diragono@reddit
You’re extremely argumentative with people telling you they’re probably not going to want to chance a driver with an incident already vs one without. As you said, your experience is only 9 months difference…that’s a drop in the bucket. You’re both still rookies. It’d be a different argument if it was a 10 year driver with 2 points vs a 3 month with zero.
Honestly, I’ve seen you post numerous times about different things. Mentioning going O/O with no experience, bragging about a local route then complaining about them wanting you to run another turn, them wanting you to run in weather, I mean the list goes on from all the posts I’ve seen from you. You have a very victim mentality about this job. No company gives a shit about you, if you won’t/can’t do the tasks they’re asking they’ll find someone who can.
Unless this company you’re asking about is a little mom/pop one and you have a personal connection then it’s more likely they’re going to go with the clean MVR especially either your lack of experience as well.
Crashy1620@reddit
I think the clean record driver would get the call back. IMO a clean record is more valuable than minimum experience with points.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Even with no experience ?
wetstorm95@reddit
A company will see that you come with bad habits that will likely only become worse, mixed with why you need a new job and the minimal experience . A new person is trainable the way they want.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
2 points in a year is bad habit? What have you been smoking?
pingus3233@reddit
2 points period is a bad habit. You're supposed to be a professional. Any kind of moving violation is a problem.
Also lots of companies like to hire drivers with zero experience so they can train them from the ground up instead of trying to break existing habits the company doesn't like.
Radiant_Swan187@reddit
There are plenty of people out there with ZERO points over 30 years. Yea. Its a habit.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
there are also plenty with over 3 points on their record. You are saying nonsense.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Plenty is not all.
wetstorm95@reddit
Don’t ask for opinions if they’re going to hurt you so much. Good luck with your future employment.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Im not hurting. You are the one who making things up like 2 points is a DUI . Get.a life loser.
wetstorm95@reddit
I didn’t equate the two at all.. i didn’t even say you were unemployable. perhaps take a break from reddit while you simmer down.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Yeah you been making things up l ike having 2 points in an MVR with 1 year of experience is doomsday. Get a life you sore loser.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
A new person has not made a mistake yet, and has not proven how he handles a mistake. It could be worse than 2 points. LIke someone who would end up killing people doing u turns, or the new guy who run over and killed dozens in Colorado. 3 months and 12 months is 9 month difference. 2 points on MVR is like a mosquito bite and everyone is better off make these mistakes early than later . So your reasoning is flawed.
wetstorm95@reddit
My reasoning isn’t flawed. It’s major things that companies think of, whether you agree or not. The interview, and who knows who will also have a huge impact.
You’re very touchy in your replies though. If you’re so dead set two points and 1 year experience wins then enjoy the new job offers 🤷🏼♀️
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
You making things up , and making a big deal of a 2 points in the MVR that came close to 1 year of driving experience. So that is like 2 points in a year. As if 2 points is similar to a 3 points or 4 points or 5 points. 2 points is the minimum points beyond zero.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Because 2 points is really almost nothing. 2 points in the first year is a mosquito bite. Anyone knows it is always better to make mistake early. Because if you don't know then you will not learn. Making these tickets is part of learning. If you dont make mistakes you never learned.
Bigbadsmurf@reddit
The guy who was more confident and respectful. As always.
Unique-Ad-2544@reddit
That means absolutely nothing it's first come first serve at these big companies I have witnessed this multiple times across the years.
JulianneElise@reddit
After reading your responses to the ones who were nicely giving you answers you didn’t want to hear, I think your argumentative attitude will work more against than points in any potential job. Best of luck 🤷♀️
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Yeah because 2 points is like nothing. Plus it gets removed in a year after the incident. That is like 9 months from now. So why is that a big deal? Plus I can even take a traffic course and 3 points max gets removed. Why you make it appear like its the end of the world?
SlothyTendecies@reddit
The other guy for sure.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
why?
SlothyTendecies@reddit
These companies don’t want to inherit points right off the bat. It’s just an insurance thing and it’s dumb. 2 points for a minor violation shouldn’t be a big deal but some companies view it as the end of the world. Hey, maybe you’ll get hired and I hope so man.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Wrong. What have you been talking? Dumb
No, companies do not inherit the specific numerical points assigned to a driver's license by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV).
SlothyTendecies@reddit
I didn’t mean they snatch your points from you, they take on the risk if they hire you, so in a way, yes they do inherit your points. But, good luck to you man, hope everything works out.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
You said they inherit points, as if 2 points in a big deal. INsurance companies won't even consider it as they start at 3 points before they increase rates.
SlothyTendecies@reddit
I didn’t mean it literally, but some companies do view 2 points as a huge deal. Best of luck man.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Some . Yeah right
SlothyTendecies@reddit
Yeah, some, as in the good ones that you need clean records and 0 points for. You can go work for some 1099 Russian company no problem, they’ll take you all day long. Hell, maybe even Western Express will take you. But I’m done responding, you need to take a break and cool off or something.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
So anything else to say?
SlothyTendecies@reddit
Nope. You’re right big dawg, enjoy the .40 cpm job.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Why when it gets removed when I take a course and gone in a year? Sorry to hurt your feelings but it does not work at all.
SlothyTendecies@reddit
My feelings aren’t hurt, I’m not the one getting hurt in all the replies. 😂 People try to help and you’re doing nothing but being combative. You never stated if you did the course or how close they were to falling off. Hopefully the other guy gets the call because I’d hate to work with you.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Joke joke joke. That 2 points gets removed in a year. Plus I can take a state driving course to get that removed and be zero (up to 3 points). so its not really a big deal . Did I hurt your feelings?
The_Okay_Baboo@reddit
They don't want to inherit points from a million mile driver with years of experience. In your specific scenario, if they would consider the three month driver, they'll probably take the 2 points as well, and would likely hire both drivers because they're always short drivers. Most companies don't want either of you.
All you can do is apply and give it a go. Don't get diarrhea of the mouth because you'd be surprised what's NOT on your record. Let them find it.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
2 points is a big deal for these companies? 2 points??
The_Okay_Baboo@reddit
Apply and find out for sure. They usually don't like inheriting any points.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Yeah I will . You know how many drivers got points on their record right? Some even got their license suspended.
jyster1996@reddit
In all honesty. It depends. I may be a new driver, but the company would look at it as what are the points for? Major violations? Or minor things. I would think they would want experience rather than a clean record
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Is 2 points a major for you? It’s obstructed view or control
RectumRavager69@reddit
I would consider that to be a pretty big deal but not enough to not hire you. However I would make you drive with a trainer for a bit and maybe put a camera in the truck for a while until you proved you had learned why that was dumb and wouldn't do it again.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
I already have a camera in the truck.
overpaidlazytrucker@reddit
If they need someone in the seat and violations are minor they don't care. They also don't care if the company is self insured, I work with two idiots that have prior DWI and they still work at my company.
homucifer666@reddit
I'd say it depends on the company and what they value. Also depends on what the points are for. Most times, I'd say the clean record has a leg up.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Even if it’s just 2 points ?
denyskaiser@reddit
A flip floppin’ sink foot washer probably.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
Why ?
denyskaiser@reddit
Because they will take dirt pay since it’s still more than working in a scam call center.
East_Indication_7816@reddit (OP)
But I only go to decent companies that accept good records and valid CDL not non domiciled ..
denyskaiser@reddit
It was a joke good sir. Have a nice day! I don’t have any useful answers.