Same. I see way more of those 6th gen Accords than those 4th gen Camrys down here in Arizona and California. Even with the transmission issues, somehow the Accords are far more common than the Camrys.
I think part of it has to do with the fact that the Accord was actually outselling the Camry at this time.
Sometimes I wonder how much more life General Motors could've gotten out of the W-Bodies with sharp styling, competitive powertrains, and nice interiors. Everyone said the platform was ancient (and it was) but even these final generation cars were quiet and smooth riding, reliable. Lifeless steering in probably every variant, but that could actually have been addressed unrelated to the platform.
Yeah, rust killed more of the Tauruses than mechanical failure did, they were pretty reliable overall. The transmission was a weak point, but that's because nobody every did the 30K fluid services the manual tells you to do lol
I found the Accords either rusted or got mechanically totaled by Honda's habitually shitty automatics. I still see a few L31 Altimas every week, those were solid cars. But around where I live I'll literally see at least a half dozen XV30 Camrys every single day. IMO it was the best car on this list.
My in-laws had a 2004 LE that had 400,000km on it when they sold it a couple years ago, original engine, transmission and transmission fluid. Someone else here commented about the 4T65E not being too bad, but let's be honest, it's a steaming pile of shit compared to the Toyota U transmission (my in-laws had the U241E specifically).
Of the cars in this comparo I pretty regularly see all of ‘em except the Dodge, Hyundai, and to a lesser extent the Impalas do seem to also be drying up… the rest of them were and still are pretty plentiful.
They also had stupidly good build quality. Those 6th gens and other Accord gens as well are some of the only cars I’ve seen whose interiors are able to withstand the Arizona sun even being parked outside. Even on Craigslist and shit I’ve never ever ever seen one with a cracked or melting dash.
Compare that to other common vehicles of the era like GMT800s or late 00s Camrys and it feels like half of them have cracked/melting dashboards.
100%. My Accord spent its entire life in Arizona and Texas. Nothing melted. Nothing smells like crayon. Paint in amazing condition (no idea if it was garaged, but likely). The build quality is light years behind that of my Maverick, though the Maverick is much safer, much more capable, with about the same inflation adjusted price.
Probably garaged or resprayed, those Honda clear coats struggled in the sun.
Glad to see someone else can vouch for me. My Mazda, also being a Ford product, definitely feels worse. Much more hollow and creaky plastic. The only things to straight up break off though is the sunglass holder latch, and a pin holding the cargo cover up. Also smells like straight up cancer as opposed to the Accords which smelled like sweet cancer lmfao.
Yeah, I only see the Camry left. But it's Southern California, so there's a heck of a lot of those Camrys. Even the previous generation still has quite a few on the road.
Not sure where you are in Canada, but I live in Southern Ontario (Toronto, specifically) which is salt central, and I see these Camrys everywhere. I'll even see at least one XV20 every day, and an XV10 at least once a week.
The guy saying the Buick will outlast the Camry is running on pure Americope. There is a certain subset of American car enthusiasts who can't stand the fact that the Japanese made a better American sedan than any American company made.
Most of these were pretty good cars overall, and personally I see all of these with regularity except for the Dodge and Hyundai (although the latter didn't sell in big numbers).
Madi473@reddit
The quintessential Camry is that era, that Forrest green with gold accent and the beige cloth interior
turb0_encapsulator@reddit
the early 2000s were a good time for luxury cars and a bad time for mainstream cars.
glenn_rodgers@reddit
And of those 8 cars, you really only see the Camrys left. Even the Accords mostly fell victim to that shoddy 4-speed…
ArcticBP@reddit
I se a lot more of those Accords than the others
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
Same. I see way more of those 6th gen Accords than those 4th gen Camrys down here in Arizona and California. Even with the transmission issues, somehow the Accords are far more common than the Camrys.
I think part of it has to do with the fact that the Accord was actually outselling the Camry at this time.
jondes99@reddit
And there were plenty with manual transmissions.
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
That too. It's a huge struggle finding a manual Camry, Accord not so much.
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
I see far more Accords than Camrys.
hillbillydeluxe@reddit
W bodies are still running around like cockroaches. If you're reasonable about service intervals the 4t65 wasn't that bad.
Loved my regal gse
IAmWellBehaved@reddit
Sometimes I wonder how much more life General Motors could've gotten out of the W-Bodies with sharp styling, competitive powertrains, and nice interiors. Everyone said the platform was ancient (and it was) but even these final generation cars were quiet and smooth riding, reliable. Lifeless steering in probably every variant, but that could actually have been addressed unrelated to the platform.
Alchemic_Psycho@reddit
I see a fair few of this gen Taurus’ and Altimas still rolling down he road
ice445@reddit
Yeah, rust killed more of the Tauruses than mechanical failure did, they were pretty reliable overall. The transmission was a weak point, but that's because nobody every did the 30K fluid services the manual tells you to do lol
uberdosage@reddit
Wasn't the automatic in those accords really only problematic for the 6 cylinder models?
NCSUGrad2012@reddit
The 6 cylinder models were worse, but the 4's had issues too
kyonkun_denwa@reddit
I found the Accords either rusted or got mechanically totaled by Honda's habitually shitty automatics. I still see a few L31 Altimas every week, those were solid cars. But around where I live I'll literally see at least a half dozen XV30 Camrys every single day. IMO it was the best car on this list.
My in-laws had a 2004 LE that had 400,000km on it when they sold it a couple years ago, original engine, transmission and transmission fluid. Someone else here commented about the 4T65E not being too bad, but let's be honest, it's a steaming pile of shit compared to the Toyota U transmission (my in-laws had the U241E specifically).
centurion330@reddit
Everyone loves to shit on Nissans but the early 2000s models are invincible until they get crashed in a sideshow
SaltyDalt@reddit
Of the cars in this comparo I pretty regularly see all of ‘em except the Dodge, Hyundai, and to a lesser extent the Impalas do seem to also be drying up… the rest of them were and still are pretty plentiful.
XcessiveZ@reddit
The early 2000s impala with the 3.8 was a great car.
uselessartist@reddit
Loved the Oldsmobile Intrigue commercial https://youtu.be/mGRHZlTaSjs?si=RgaUnEMIxw7IAjer
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Literally the only problem with my 2002 Accord by the time I sold it was the auto tragic transmission at almost 200k.
Those things were mostly tanks.
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
They also had stupidly good build quality. Those 6th gens and other Accord gens as well are some of the only cars I’ve seen whose interiors are able to withstand the Arizona sun even being parked outside. Even on Craigslist and shit I’ve never ever ever seen one with a cracked or melting dash.
Compare that to other common vehicles of the era like GMT800s or late 00s Camrys and it feels like half of them have cracked/melting dashboards.
Shmokesshweed@reddit
100%. My Accord spent its entire life in Arizona and Texas. Nothing melted. Nothing smells like crayon. Paint in amazing condition (no idea if it was garaged, but likely). The build quality is light years behind that of my Maverick, though the Maverick is much safer, much more capable, with about the same inflation adjusted price.
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
Probably garaged or resprayed, those Honda clear coats struggled in the sun.
Glad to see someone else can vouch for me. My Mazda, also being a Ford product, definitely feels worse. Much more hollow and creaky plastic. The only things to straight up break off though is the sunglass holder latch, and a pin holding the cargo cover up. Also smells like straight up cancer as opposed to the Accords which smelled like sweet cancer lmfao.
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Yep, I think you're right. I've seen some ROUGH clear coats specifically on the 6th gen.
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
Yeah and it sucks too because the 6th gen had some really nice color options.
theENERTRON@reddit
would laugh if the 2007 accord wins again
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
This time the 2001 won, deservedly.
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
Accord wins again what a surprise 😂
CurbsEnthusiasm@reddit
That Buick will outlast them all.
earoar@reddit
Not the Camry
TempleSquare@reddit
Yeah, I only see the Camry left. But it's Southern California, so there's a heck of a lot of those Camrys. Even the previous generation still has quite a few on the road.
Windows-XP-Home-NEW@reddit
SoCal? You should see a lot more 6th gen Accords then. It was like a 2:1 ratio when I was there of old Accords vs old Camrys.
earoar@reddit
Here in Canada it’s pretty rare to see anything pedestrian that’s older than 20 years thanks to rust.
kyonkun_denwa@reddit
Not sure where you are in Canada, but I live in Southern Ontario (Toronto, specifically) which is salt central, and I see these Camrys everywhere. I'll even see at least one XV20 every day, and an XV10 at least once a week.
The guy saying the Buick will outlast the Camry is running on pure Americope. There is a certain subset of American car enthusiasts who can't stand the fact that the Japanese made a better American sedan than any American company made.
earoar@reddit
I actually see probably as many 2003-2007 accords as Camrys of that generation. Don’t really see anything American of that age other than trucks.
thetimechaser@reddit
Phenomenal generation of sedans.
I bet we'll still be seeing some of these on the roads when the current gen of sedans is hitting the scrap yard.
IAmWellBehaved@reddit
Most of these were pretty good cars overall, and personally I see all of these with regularity except for the Dodge and Hyundai (although the latter didn't sell in big numbers).
F1_Geek@reddit
The Japanese big three used to make some incredible sporty family sedans back in the day.
Oh how I miss those cars.
ScienceMechEng_Lover@reddit
The last time Altimas were sold to people who could afford to maintain them instead of financially irresponsible people using 84-month loans.
danny_ish@reddit
Idk, by 2004 the altimas deff had the same reputation they have today. And i remember having a similar thought about that in 1996