AI Engineer, France or Canada ?

Posted by jiii95@reddit | expats | View on Reddit | 33 comments

Hello, so I read many past similar posts, and found out most people preferring France over Canada. I am going to detail my life so I can see other perspectives on my already made decision.

I studied stats and data in Italy for BA, then a second BA in computer science at a Parisian university, then an MA in AI in Paris. I worked two years with an American multinational as AI Engineer, and now working with another startup in Lyon in the same field. I am from a Muslim background, quite liberal in some areas, conservative in most others, and very conservative in some other ones. I speak English natively, and French around B2 level.

Now it has been 5 years since I am in France, but the idea to move to Canada has been bugging my mind for quite a bit. Firstly, I ll talk why I want to move to Canada, and then I ll outline the reasons that remind me from time to time, why I want to quit France.

Firstly, I am a big fan of north american lifestyle, having lived in the US for two years when I was 12. I almost listen to bluegrass and country music everyday. I almost master the cultural codes and references. I read American literature and philosophy all the time. I love the mindset of freedom and adevnture and risk that categorises north America. Even clothes, I wear only north American style clothes, and I was told that. For me Canada/USA culutrally not a big difference culturally, generally speaking, I wouldn't live in the US because of politics. I love the Canadian wilderness, as I am a hunter as well, a tradition of family. I love nature and greenness and wide spaces in an insane manner. It is a real therapy for me. Recently, I got in contact with someone who is trying to find me a job there, he s a senior manager in a company there. The list goes on and on.

Secondly, when I came to France, I fell in love with this country, the rich history and culture, relaxed job culture and quality of life, crazy and diversity of nature, as I have lived in Brittany, Avignon, Paris, and now in Rhone close to Alpes. These factors made me fell in love with this country, but not long enough until I started to feel disappointed, I am someone who values his dignity a lot, and I felt that the racism in France is a real thing (I am the last person to adopt victimhood discourse, usually, if you tell me something not Ok, I would reply with something way worse, without hestiation, but I am not into that business, I love quite peaceful life !), if not direct sometimes, then subtle most of the time, from different directions, because of my name, you feel you re always suspected, it is seen and felt. What made the situation worse, is the politics nowadays, and the media having all freedom to say whatever they want about Muslims, but you can't say a damn one word of truth about something else ! People wise, I have no issue, nor generalisation in my mind, I find the French the I d like my children to be like, because I resemble them as well, personality wise, but it is a paradox hahaha Lastly, there is a huge sense of hierarchy in the society, or in the corporate world, which is not suitable for me as well, I know very well, it is not the case in Canada this hierarchy thing as in France, and of course in Canada, Muslims have it easier, it is a fact, I don't need an opinion ont this, not read, heard from many friends's mouth, as I have many friends in Canada.

Professionally, I feel I will be stuck with a very low salary here in France (45k), and with less probability to go up in the professional upward mobility ladder. Contrary to Canada, I know close friends went really quickly up there. Given also I am in the AI field, I feel Canada would be better for me, as they are now laser focusing on developing this area well, also, I intend to found a startup, and given proximity to the US, things can go well given the right circumstances. Also salary wise, Canada offers a high salary, but some might say, well, you have less offer in healthcare, housing and so on, but that s debatable.

Family wise, I d love my kids to grow up in a society where they re not hated, stigmatised, and pscyhologically well, not many, not all, of type of unfortunately psychologically affected generations that grew up in France with Muslim or Arab names and origins. I still have no kids, I am only 30.

Lastly, I read before comparision opinions about Canada Vs. France, and most of it is about healthcare system, salary, and those typical topics, but I tried to lay down above, how I personally feel about it.

In summary, it seems France can be a great place for "Whites" (No negative connotation, just a description :) ), or even Asians, but those with Arab or Muslim origins, it seems, the atmosphere is amplifying day by day, given that the political discourse shifted from security/crime delinquency to civilisational clash and identity politics, which is a major shift. Canada, for someone with my origins, fortunately with the field I am in, is the optimal place. Because before thinking about money, days off per year, or whatever, there is the psychological aspect and comfort matter a great deal, if not all the deal, surely not all those with my origins would share the same situation of life and analysis, but surely someone and many I know told me so. l also haven't yet bought any property or something like that, and not married, but with someone, so quite mobile !

I would love to hear your counter arguments, show me errors or gaps in my personal analysis, or if I am just exaggerating, thank you very much !