Forces rescue downed aviatior in night raid
Posted by Firecracker048@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 273 comments
Posted by Firecracker048@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 273 comments
wezl0@reddit
The propaganda rebound from this coming from American accounts is kind of funny. Lose as much metal as you want, but since we got the guy we can totally win a ground war now...
It looked like we could have narrowly avoided a ground invasion, but this will certainly embolden the administration. I think the gloaters (which is already just a hilarious position to take at this point in the conflict) might lose their appetite once the FPV vids of jarheads looking wide eyed at the camera come in. I can only shake my head and chuckle at bit. Nothing learned from the invasion of Ukraine!
QuinedQualia@reddit
Yep, apparently losing a bunch of assets and rescuing a single pilot has won the war for the US again! Not sure how many times they’ve won now, and yet:
Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116351998782539414
WayOutbackBoy@reddit
This single pilot would have been the center of the war and a massive political coup and bargaining chip for Iran and he was in their territory for days and the US got to him first deep in Iran. Instead it has emboldened Trump even further. That is humiliating for the IRGC no matter how you slice it.
tommytwolegs@reddit
Humiliating? They downed his plane. The straight is still closed. It's now under a toll system by Iran, they are making more money than ever. Every day this drags on is humiliation for the US.
The funny part to me is leftists should probably be the ones actually cheering trump on. In one outcome the US removes all its bases from the middle east, a giant win for leftists geopolitically. In another the world economy crashes which would be a giant win for climate change.
The outcome of trump somehow forcing the straight open without either of those things happening is so unlikely they should be his primary supporters at this point. He might have to switch parties to maintain any support by the time this is finished.
Jacinto2702@reddit
You don't know anything about the left...
tommytwolegs@reddit
A breakdown of the modern capitalist system isn't desirable to them? Or do they like the US military bases all over the middle east?
MrCookie2099@reddit
Breakdown of the capitalist system because the world economy collapsed is not the objective of the left.
tommytwolegs@reddit
How else would socialists expect capitalism to collapse?
MrCookie2099@reddit
Through the inevitably of capitalist enshitification and its need to make the line go up.
tommytwolegs@reddit
How does that result in socialism?
MrCookie2099@reddit
Socialism is the offramp to capitalism's natural need to maximize profit over all other considerations.
tommytwolegs@reddit
But like, how do you see that transition going smoothly as opposed to being the result of a collapse?
MrCookie2099@reddit
What, like people voting for public works and trusts like libraries, schools, and PBS?
tommytwolegs@reddit
I didn't think a whole lot of socialists believed they would ever get there through democracy
MrCookie2099@reddit
Ask the Nordic countries if they thought so.
tommytwolegs@reddit
What in the world would that have to do with what actual leftists think
MrCookie2099@reddit
They're socialist democracies and have been so for decades. Their economies are strong and they have large, well protected middle classes. This is exactly what leftists want. If this is hard for you to accept, maybe talk to more leftists before telling them what their beliefs are?
tommytwolegs@reddit
Do the workers own the means of production there?
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
The IRGC is not making more money then ever since their economy is still crippled by the rest of their country being under siege via air strikes and internet disruptions. Additionally, claiming you have air superiority and only being able to down one plane, while having both pilots be rescued close to Isfahan of all places is a tactical failure on the Iranian’s part.
It’s clear you’re being desperate if most of your paragraph isn’t related to the tactical operation this article is referring to, it’s an F-15E, we’re meant to take losses in these sort of peer to peer conflict since I’ve seen everyone sworn Iran can regularly shoot down F-35s before this conflict.
qwertyalguien@reddit
This isn't a peer to peer conflict, not by a long shot. It's extremely asymmetrical, and the real pivot this war goes around is the strait. And the real battle is more political: Iran wants Trump's popularity to crash and pressure him through the midterms, forcing him to concede or crush his current dominance in congress and put a stop to his plans in the US.
The IRGC doesn't need a working economy, or even a working country. They just need to keep pumping drones and missiles, and they can get stuff from allies like Russia.
That's why the US, despite it's complete air and naval dominance, is on the strategic backfoot. Because it takes very little for the Iranians to block the strait, but it's very VERY costly for the US to open it.
tommytwolegs@reddit
Are you equating the IRGC revenue with like, the entire GDP of Iran?
Because they make money separately, largely through oil revenues, which are booming.
We are now all paying them indirectly at the gas pump and soon, the grocery store as well as nearly everywhere else.
QuinedQualia@reddit
Wars aren’t won and lost through humiliation, and the aircraft being downed so far are certainly humiliating for the US “warfighters.” Ofc Iran wanted the pilot, but it’s also a single operation. Iran also wants a ground war, which would create a much different picture. We will see if they get it
studio_bob@reddit
Many Americans are so pampered they cannot conceive of higher stakes than hurt feelings so if their "enemies" are supposedly mad/sad/humiliated/spinning they think that's the same as "winning." We see this same kind of talk around the Ukraine war and domestic partisan politics.
IronBENGA-BR@reddit
In a way we cannot blame them, it's easier to sell war propaganda to a people who never had to experience war firsthand as a civillian. When was the last war the US fought in their own soil? But still, there must be a time of reckoning for those people.
Thisconnect@reddit
I think you underestimate the spectrum you're working on. Getting this guy back only brings you from total political defeat to the middle of "its bad idea war"
studio_bob@reddit
Not a big deal. At the rate things are going, Iran will get another opportunity to grab an American airman soon enough. How many A-10s, Black Hawks, C-130s, and SF operators is the US willing to burn to try and save them every time Iran shoots down an aircraft?
Dogulol@reddit
its not totally unfeaseble that the guy wasnt found. He was in a quite remote dessert, and was sending his location to the US. Since Iran doesnt have air superiority, its totally plausible the US can get a person in and out of the country especially in somewhere so remote. The only reason it took this long was probably bc the crew was injured
photochadsupremacist@reddit
And if people believe all these planes and helicopters were shot down without any casualties, I've got a bridge to sell you
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
They are not shot down since we can clearly images of those parked C-130s before they were destroyed. There are footages and image of the wreckage site with no casualties to show for it,
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
Ain’t those the same ones the US admin claimed were only “damaged” yet photos of the planes show them torn in half?
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
The U.S said they destroyed them after they were damaged. There is literally an image of these things parked and destroyed. Additionally, it’s telling the IRGC hasn’t taken any pictures or footages of bodies, we’ll be seeing dozens of dead soldiers since these transport crafts can carry hundreds.
The only proof they released was a zoom in image of what is alleged to be a body only for it to be a car.
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
I’m talking about the attack on the Prince Sultan Air Base that saw several US aircraft destroyed, like E-3 Sentry, while the US government claimed they were only “damaged”.
Exactly, yet the US government claims they were only damaged, which is obviously a lie, and you just claimed the U.S. blew up its own damaged airplanes on its own base.
Why would parked planes be full of soldiers? And why do you think the C-130 only exists in transport versions?
While the US government doesn’t release any “proof”, it just claims destroyed planes as “damaged”, while insisting how it destroyed 99% of Irans military capabilities every other day.
kapsama@reddit
Accounts like these literally reminds me of Baghdad Bob. Just pure Jingoistic propaganda.
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
how exactly since Iran still hasn’t offered any proof of any casualties despite the site being there for nearly a day, and them actually admitting the Americans destroyed their own planes recently?
kapsama@reddit
You guys argue that every American loss either didn't happen, or if it did happen it was an accident or deliberate. Every single one.
photochadsupremacist@reddit
Where are the images when they were "parked"? And the footage coming out is what Iran wants to come out.
The US has been lying about everything since the start including casualties. People need to stop being so gullible.
Procrastinator_5000@reddit
Wow, being critical of the US and this war is one thing, but you are seriously delusional if you think they could/would hide the fact people were killed here. Casualties are being reported since the start of this war.
You need to learn the difference between western reporting and Iran reporting, there is a huge difference whether you like it it not.
photochadsupremacist@reddit
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2003/9/14/americas-secret-casualties
https://theintercept.com/2025/05/02/trump-yemen-war-us-casualties-death-toll/
https://theintercept.com/2026/04/01/iran-war-us-casualty-numbers-trump-hegseth/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
So, I’m assuming your sources are vague posting and no real footages or images from the IRGC side despite how easy it is to prove these type of losses
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
You can literally go to r/war and r/combatfootage to see the parked C-130s parked and destroyed in the same spot.
Also, once you start using that they lie about everything excuse line even if there’s clear evidence of those aircraft posted by Iranian accounts all grouped up with one another on the same site with no American casualties within the wreckage, then that is just straight up denying evidence.
QuinedQualia@reddit
And what, the rescued pilots were also parked? The helis? The US blowing up its own planes means we are winning?
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
The U.S is not winning overall, but that operation is a success for them since rescuing the pilot is obviously the operational goal here, and do note they were 20KM from Isfahan with plenty of recorded Iranian casualties. The Iranians have recorded their search of the site showing no American fatalities as well, which would’ve dampened it a lot more than the equipment losses.
TrizzyG@reddit
Got any evidence to the contrary? No? Then you ain't selling jack sh*t
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
Why do you think gloating is a crazy position to take in this conflict?
CommunalJellyRoll@reddit
Conflict? no this is US killing brown folks again.
procgen@reddit
The US killing people who called for death to Americans
🤷♂️
CommunalJellyRoll@reddit
Are you serious? That doesn’t mean you get to go kill people. Especially since it’s propaganda. They agreed to everything we wanted. Trump pulled us out so we can bomb them.
procgen@reddit
nah they're massive sponsors of global terrorism (setting aside the issue of how they treat their own people). no sympathy here.
CommunalJellyRoll@reddit
So is the US. We are literally the largest exporters and funders of terror.
procgen@reddit
great, so a conflict sounds perfect?
Illustrious-Run3591@reddit
For what it's worth, I am perfectly okay with Iran blowing up the global oil supply, and I hope it impacts you.
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
It’s insane how you try to equate US military loses with Iranian civilians like it’s all the same and as if the average American is suffering just as much of this war as the average Iranian.
So no, it’s not “great” and conflict is never perfect
procgen@reddit
eh, the average american needs to live in the belly of the great satan. it's not an enviable life by any means lol
CommunalJellyRoll@reddit
If it’s a peer force sure. They are not. Again we had all we wanted the. Trump pulled us out of treaties to start a war to bomb brown people to distract from files. Terrorism.
procgen@reddit
sure looks like a peer force to me, based on how this is going. again, i don't see a problem here.
and if you think either party could be trusted to abide by the agreements, you're a fool. war is the only surefire way to settle an existential question like this (and nuclear ICBMs make it one)
CommunalJellyRoll@reddit
Not even close to a peer force. Are they bombing US cities? How about those Iranian carriers? Or their Boomers? Long range bombed, medium range bombers? Long range escorts? Satellites? ICBMs?
They have suicide drones, medium range missiles, and short range air defense.
procgen@reddit
and yet the US is currently being humiliated. maybe the things you listed don't actually matter much in practice?
CommunalJellyRoll@reddit
Humiliated because we are doing the same shit Russia is doing. We can literally do better but the decision makers are stupid af. Acting like this is a peer force is laughable. We haven’t lost our whole Air Force, half our navy and 3000 personnel yet.
procgen@reddit
"the US could totally do better if it wanted"
I dunno man, I don't buy it. happy to have the US and Iran settle this for us in any case
CommunalJellyRoll@reddit
Not starting shit to start with. If you have to fight don’t base assets within range of strikes you cannot protect against is a start. Have enough buildup to get things done is a simple second. Stop housing soldiers in civilian areas because you know war crime. And take your opponent seriously.
procgen@reddit
you can play armchair general all you like – the US is demonstrating itself to be a paper tiger. the causes are immaterial... it's the effect that counts.
loggy_sci@reddit
Humiliated according to Redditors
Capable-Yam4557@reddit
This is just another "Hamas were killing Israeli first"
Iran is hostile to America is not without reason. Back when 1979 revolution happened, the new regime wanted to arrest the Pahlavi family, but America gave them asylum instead.
Now when France Revolution happened, the royal family fled to Austria and Prussia. Did Robespierre and then Napoleon ever said "nah, it's okay fam" to them? Of course not. France denounced them, and it escalated into a diplomatic crisis and became the Coalition Wars that catapulted Napoleon's career.
procgen@reddit
war is the end effect in either case, so one wonders why it matters
BroMan001@reddit
Death to America is different to death to Americans. And even then, their only experience with Americans is them blowing up vital infrastructure or little girls, are we surprised they don’t like us?
procgen@reddit
the poor ayatollah :(
BroMan001@reddit
You’re either being intentionally obtuse or lack reading comprehension skills
procgen@reddit
i'm not going to lose any sleep over thugs killing thugs.
BroMan001@reddit
Little girl thugs. Intentionally obtuse it is
procgen@reddit
the iranian government are thugs. i don't think they're little girls
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
this is an armed conflict by definition....
QuinedQualia@reddit
You can obscure all you want but it is a war of aggression conducted by the US and Israel
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
yeah obviously, still falls under the definition of armed conflict
Illustrious-Run3591@reddit
Well, considering the entire planet is watching you guys commit war crimes and views you as on par to Russia right now, it's probably not a great time for "MURICA NUMBAH ONE"
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
On par with Russia as in military performance, or as in warcrimes?
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
Yes and worse
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
then you are stupid, sorry
Illustrious-Run3591@reddit
In terms of global opinion. From my experience the US is just as disliked than Russia over the past 5 years. Maybe more at this point.
cannibaltom@reddit
USA and Iran both have morale boosts. USA made daring rescues with no casualties. Iran shot down and damaged multiple aircraft while the US supposedly claimed air supremacy.
anohioanredditer@reddit
The film is already in development
lostinspacs@reddit
Trump being emboldened is the real problem. Iran’s ground forces seem to be stunningly incompetent.
They suddenly looks vulnerable to a limited invasion or ethnic separatism. The LAST thing the world needs is Iran as a failed state on par with post-Saddam Iraq, Assad’s Syria, Libya, etc.
SnooMuffins223@reddit
The fact that they were able to do all of this and bring helicopters to a rescue that deep in Iran is a huge moral victory for American forces. It means there might be some truth to what Abu Dawud al-Turumbi was saying about Iranian air defenses being degraded.
TomTomXD1234@reddit
They lost about 6-8 aircraft trying to rescue the 1 pilot.
WorkingMastodon6147@reddit
Tbh, those airframes were old and any pilot will always be more valuable than a plane, it takes 3-4 years to build a plane it takes 2 decades to make a pilot.
GenFatAss@reddit
The WSO that was rescued was a Colonel, and it takes 22 years of service to reach that rank
ScaryShadowx@reddit
I'm going to say great to US forces for getting the pilot out of harms way. While I absolutely don't support this war, being a POW is not something I would wish on anyone.
About 25-35% return to flying jets after experiencing an ejection, and even then it usually takes about 6-12 months to return to flying. Neither of these pilots are likely to return unless this war extends to something beyond control.
koos_die_doos@reddit
Do you have a source for this claim? As I understand it, the numbers are much higher.
kevinthebaconator@reddit
Naive question here.. Is it purely time based or could you reach it faster with talent?
GenFatAss@reddit
before 2019 it was the law that "an officer previously required at least 22 years of cumulative service and a minimum of three years as a lieutenant colonel before being promoted to colonel" but they did that away and that not a requirement anymore but its generally still done that way the reason why the law was changed was to recruit highly educated citizens to fill critical positions like medical doctors.
Usual-Ad-4986@reddit
Based, you want him to be left for dead or what?
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
It’s the A10, and two C-130 * Little Bird seen blown up on the ground. I’ve only count three.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Honestly not a lot of damage considering those units are old and are due replacement.
Plus, the less aircraft the US have on hand. The less likely for a continued conflict.
Meaning, less Americans killed for nonsensical reasons. It's a win-win situation for anyone involved.
Leoszite@reddit
Lmao, cope harder. It was 100's of millions of dollars of damage. Say what you will but it was a significant material cost.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Why make it sound like the 100 millions of damage in equipment is our problem to begin with.
Nothing the US can't replace with stockpiles.
Leoszite@reddit
Why act like it's nothing? Material runs out eventually, and the publics want to fund the ability to beat the cost of replacing this junk isn't infinite either.
RoostasTowel@reddit
So does irans.
Certain-Definition51@reddit
…Iran is not the only country out there. Not even the only enemy country.
More importantly, I wanted that money for bridges and schools.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Look on the bright side of things, if US military stops making bases around the world.
The appetite for reindustrialization and such for domestic programs might just revive.
RoostasTowel@reddit
Well we still to be starting down that road.
The USA will pull out of this area and tell the world to keep this seaway open.
The USA is also working on internalizing it's production of many things already.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Too late of an action but a good one nonetheless.
Here's to hoping the consequences in this conflict will accelerate investment on domestic for the US.
I'm sure the US is in very hard need for it.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Because it's money already spent.
quietflyr@reddit
This is really dumb logic. Loss of equipment means either you accept a loss of capability or you have to buy more equipment to replace what you lost, meaning more money spent.
If your car gets destroyed you don't say "oh well, money already spent". You had a car because you needed it. Now you have to replace it, or accept you no longer have that asset to take you places.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
It's only dumb if you cut out the context.
I included the loss of equipment in my first commend already.
quietflyr@reddit
I specifically didn't comment on your "context" of these being "old aircraft" (the MC-130J would have been no older than 2011, which is nearly brand new in aircraft terms).
You can make a weird argument for the US having less military equipment being a good thing, but the rest of your argument is completely nonsensical.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
And read the second part of that good sir.
quietflyr@reddit
I perfectly understood it. You're just wrong.
The MC-130J is a new-build aircraft. Some elements of the design are 65 years old, but all the parts of the airframe are new. Again this is typical in aviation. Parts that work (and in this case have an extensive service history) are not redesigned. Parts that technology has significantly improved upon (like engines, avionics, self-defence systems, etc) are redesigned (and all those things I mentioned are new design on the MC-130J.
Source: aerospace engineer with over 20 years of experience working with military aircraft, including the C-130J family.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
I'll take your word for it then.
Again, you didn't, but that's fine. It's just a minor difference in perspective, with the same conclusion eitherway
Gamer-Of-Le-Tabletop@reddit
What about the life risk of the pilots of the equipment that's being damaged/destroyed. I guess putting them at risk isn't a problem because they too can be replaced?
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Kind of pointless argument considering what it took to save one life here bud.
Gamer-Of-Le-Tabletop@reddit
In direct response to your comment.
Spending $ on equipment to be lost isn't a problem. So I asked if the personnel are just as expendable.
So I'm clarifying. Are the pilots/crew able to be replaced by stockpiles?
Certain-Definition51@reddit
That’s kind of a dumb argument though. American military doctrine since Saving Private Ryan has been:
We will risk lives to save lives, because we don’t abandon our people.
And that’s core to our recruitment and our ability to field an army of motivated professionals instead of whatever it is that Russia is fighting with.
So yeah. We have decided that risking a lot of lives to save one life is a good strategic decision.
Gamer-Of-Le-Tabletop@reddit
Well I hope the pédophilie in office is worth the service member deaths.
Seeing as I don't believe the part of the government that can declare war has yet to do so. (Might've missed it, too much is going on to avoid those Epstein files, hence operation Epstein Fury)
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Again, pointless.
Gamer-Of-Le-Tabletop@reddit
Ah yes the third option when asked a yes or no question.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
I made my point, you just won't take it.
Gamer-Of-Le-Tabletop@reddit
actually you haven't addressed whether or not Pilots/Crew are under that replaceable equipment comment you made.
But I guess it doesn't matter what "sucker" dies tho. Especially when Mr bone spurs sends em to their demise eh.
RoostasTowel@reddit
Of course they are.
It's a dumb question and a bad point you are trying to make.
The USA military trains thousands of new crew and pilots every year.
The crew are the most replaceable thing they have. Not because they all die but because they survive long enough to retire from service.
They don't want any of the losses
But absolutely they have to consider that they will lose and need to replace their staff.
Gamer-Of-Le-Tabletop@reddit
Fair point replaceable is the wrong word. If I said expendable that would be a slightly more proper wording.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
(Let me just post this again)
Kind of pointless argument considering what it took to save one life here bud.
(I edited some parts here methinks)
I get your point, but nonsensical point regardless. They're the US military, they're intended to put themselves in the thick of the fighting.
Gamer-Of-Le-Tabletop@reddit
Oh so military losses doesn't matter because it's the US' offensive war? Is that what your point is? Or am I still missing it
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Yeah, missed it by mile when the answer is right in front of your face.
SnooMuffins223@reddit
Not cope America loses about conservative 10x amount of aircraft in training 2024-2025 and if you talk to any previous or current USAF pilots they will you that most of their comrades who have died left in training incidents than combat.
At least 40 personal a year killed due to that.
Illustrious-Run3591@reddit
The real problem is that $800 billion planes are being taken out by $20,000 shahed drones. The US has an outdated and antiquated airforce, their missiles are strong but their delivery is not modernised or equipped for drone warfare. They are still using 40 year old platforms to gain air superiority.
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
Wdym try and gain, this incursion and all of the visible aircraft seen yesterday should show more than enough proof that American planes have been within Iranian airspace on a frequent basis if they’re not able to shoot down these archaic planes 20KM from Isfahan and everybody knowing where these planes would come in.
quietflyr@reddit
How exactly are MC-130Js and MH-60s archaic aircraft?
Illustrious-Run3591@reddit
Some of those were nearly sentences
STFUnicorn_@reddit
Yeah the US military budget will really be buckling after that 0.00666666667% loss…
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Cope harder? Iran just got pantsd by the US put the int their forces on the ground to rescue a guy deep in Iran territory with the entire country looking for him, and if the leaked footage is anything to indicate, quite a few Iranians died trying to fight JSOC at night.
The cope is trying to say anything good happened here for Iran
agentchuck@reddit
Pantsed? My guy, people are dead for this pointless war, including a school full of children a few weeks back. And the US government is now threatening a humanitarian crisis by destroying infrastructure for tens of millions.
I'm happy the pilot is safe. But this isn't something to reduce down to middle school humiliation rituals. Yeah, the US military is overwhelming a country with 1% of the US GDP. Great. Maybe put all of that money and might towards something actually constructive? If not for the world then at least for American citizens.
Nothing good is happening here for anyone.
Certain-Definition51@reddit
As a taxpayer, it hurts.
As a cold hearted bastard, part of the thing that keeps the American military humming is the belief that if you’re in the thick of it, you won’t get left behind.
And as a different cold hearted bastard, this will be excellent PR for the American military industrial complex. Which means more support for a war that I think is stupid. And I voted against.
Drab_Majesty@reddit
not great, not terrible energy LMAO
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
The life of one of our pilots is way more important to us than some airframes.
Drab_Majesty@reddit
agreed, which is why it's insane that they were shot down somewhere they don't need to be
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
fair shout
Drab_Majesty@reddit
definitely rescue us troops but American taxpayers are going to be the ones suffering
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
yeah
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
For optics, better than equipment lost then any American fatalities or hostages in A worst case scenario
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
You are correct, it seems the recent wars and internet back n forth have desensitized me a bit too much.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Yep, pretty much.
BarbequedYeti@reddit
Ffs look at the goal posts moving... not a lot of damage... yeah. Ok. Then you pay for it all with your own money. I would prefer some healthcare over this bullshit.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
There's no goal post moving here, just some rough assesment of the resulting aftermath and rescue of a down F15E and its pilots.
esjb11@reddit
Aswell as two damaged HH60 helicopters
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
we’ve seen footages of police and locals shooting at those helicopters, does that really count as two lost planes?
esjb11@reddit
Eeh, its not that video its about. Thats just another attempt att threatening aircraft. There were two helicopter that got dig significantly damaged but made it out of Iran. Those will likely be able to be repaired in the future hence I wrote damaged. But yes that would qualify as a loss if we keep consistent with how we calculate losses in other conflicts.
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
Yeah, but let’s be real here, any destroyed aircraft is plainly easy to track and document from all sides, so any claims of IRGC shoot downs of American crafts should be taken with a huge grain of salt without visible evidence since it just isn’t hard to provide footage/images of that. Which should be obvious from the start, but at least this little excursion and the F-15E shoot down proves why.
esjb11@reddit
Sure but there has been quite some signs over it. Pictures of damaged Blackhawk trying to fly across the border, reports of injury during it. USA not denying it etc.
But ofcourse we should take what waring sides claims with a signficiant grain of salt. IRGC has made plenty of false claims and I,m still laughing at how USA tried to claim that the awac was just "damaged".
Illustrious-Run3591@reddit
Don't forget the E-3 Sentry
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
that wasn’t lost in this rescue mission?
Illustrious-Run3591@reddit
What an engaging and interesting comment for me to reply to.
bl123123bl@reddit
Why are we pretending this was deep in Iran, the jet was shot down at the border and the temporary base was set up in Iraq
DanDan1993@reddit
Why are you busy pretending it wasn't? Wreckage was geolocated 45km from Isfahan.... 500km from Kuwait.
bl123123bl@reddit
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/04/iran-search-missing-us-crew-member-downed-fighter-jet-second-day
Yeah that base was 500km away from the plane crash location where both pilots ejected and the first was rescued within hours, scroll down to the photo on the article for a visual
DanDan1993@reddit
"aircraft wreckage seen here" - right next to Isfahan. Why are you busy pretending something else happened?
bl123123bl@reddit
Please note that that is 500km away from the F-15E crash site and 1st pilot rescue site in Dedasht
“ Footage emerged of what was said to be night-time clashes in Iran’s Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad province, near the city of Dehdasht, about 30 miles from the coast in the south-west of the country, the area where US searches had been taking place.”
The Ishfahan site seems like a wholly unrelated and failed operation 500km away as the IRGC has claimed
DanDan1993@reddit
The isfahan site is the rescue operation..... Where US had to blow up two planes and helis they left behind. You know, the picture you sent me to look at where it clearly says "airplane wreckage" right next to isfahan
"It's unrelated because it doesn't correlate to my vibes"
bl123123bl@reddit
It’s 500km away from the F-15E crash site and first rescue that occurred within hours from Dehdasht, aswell as Dehdasht operations continuing up through last night
The Ishfahan site is further Dehdasht than Dehdasht is from both land and sea borders.
DanDan1993@reddit
What does "aircraft wreckage" near Isfahan mean in the article you sent?
Let's go the other way...
bl123123bl@reddit
Not F-15E that went down at Dehdasht, it refers to multiple deployed aircraft to Ishfahan that were destroyed
“two C-130 military transport planes and two Black Hawk helicopters, and American and Israeli drones”
DanDan1993@reddit
Yeah, the wreckage of the successful rescue of the pilot near Isfahan.
I'm glad we agree the operation was deep inside Iran territory and you agree you're pretending that it wasn't.
bl123123bl@reddit
500km inward from where the F-15E went down by the Iraqi border, “rescue operations” would have taken pace, you have not posed any logic to why 1 plane going down in Dehdasht would lead to two rescue operations 500km from each other
I guess a ironic byproduct of Israel shooting journalists all the time is that it’s killed their median literacy
DanDan1993@reddit
You've presented no logic to why these planes were in Isfahan either.
Is ad hominem all you can resort to?
bl123123bl@reddit
Apologies if I didn’t mention it in this thread but according to the UN “near-60% enriched uranium in an underground tunnel complex at its Isfahan facility”, that facility is around 20 miles from the old landing strip that was used in Isfahan, and the Trump admin has leaked the possibility of a snatch and run operation on Irans enriched uranium for months now
This would lend more credence to the large commitment of troops/aircraft/drones to Isfahan rather than being a part of the rescue operations for the pilot. The IRGC has certainly alluded to this being the case in multiple statements but time will tell who is lying
Im_not_smelling_that@reddit
Not true at all. The pilot was rescued in Isfahan province. The temp airfield was inside Iran.
bl123123bl@reddit
Footage emerged of what was said to be night-time clashes in Iran’s Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad province, near the city of Dehdasht, about 30 miles from the coast in the south-west of the country, the area where US searches had been taking place.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/04/iran-search-missing-us-crew-member-downed-fighter-jet-second-day
Im_not_smelling_that@reddit
Ok? They found him, and rescued him in Isfahan province.
https://time.com/article/2026/04/05/-safe-and-sound-how-a-u-s-airman-shot-down-in-iran-was-rescued-from-a-mountain-crevice/
bl123123bl@reddit
There’s nothing even in that article mentioning anything about that, it just says “southwestern Iran” which yeah is Dedasht
Im_not_smelling_that@reddit
I can't help you if you don't know how to read captions.
bl123123bl@reddit
Please click on the guardian article and scroll down to the image lol
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Is this the new IRGC spin they have on getting embarrassed?
bl123123bl@reddit
“The so-called US military rescue operation, planned as a deception and escape mission at an abandoned airport in southern Isfahan under the pretext of recovering the pilot of a downed aircraft, was completely foiled,” Zolfaghari
That comment from Iran quite literally agrees with my point. The guardian article also does not dispute that planes were destroyed in Isfahan just that the crash and ejection from both pilots occurred almost 500km away. We also rescued the first pilot within hours in that area while helicopters were being shot at by locals
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Iran shows literally no proof of their claims. US has the pilot, successful operation and Irans only response is 'nut uhh that's not true'.
US: "we rescued the pilot near Isfahan"
Iran: " they tired but we foiled it! No we have no proof"
You: "no this was a separation operation that Iran stopped."
bl123123bl@reddit
Why are you leaning on the summary of the quote instead of the quote:
“The so-called US military rescue operation, planned as a deception and escape mission at an abandoned airport in southern Isfahan under the pretext of recovering the pilot of a downed aircraft, was completely foiled,” Zolfaghari
Why there were bunch of destroyed aircraft in a base 500 km away from both the initial crash site and the other rescue operation is what needs explaining
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
And again, where is Irans proof of all this? Iran is claiming it's all separate with no evidence other than 'we told you so, believe it's.
Again, they've shown none of this except for the c130s and little birds the US said they scuttled in the operation to rescue the pilot. Iran is claiming it's all separate to avoid embarrassment.
If Iran fought as hard as you are, they might have actually stopped the operation
bl123123bl@reddit
The IRGC showed the crashed F-15E in dehdasht, we rescued a pilot with hours and the US continued conflict in dehdasht as late as last night
There needs to be an explication for how a second operation 500 km away could possible be related to that
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Yeah Iran can explain how the WSO was there and how the US recovered him. Iran is saying they foiled it but they don't have the pilot and their ground forces got embarrassed.
Iran runs off of propaganda and currently they got nothing for this because there is nothing for them except to say 'nut unh', which is all they are doing
bl123123bl@reddit
Seems like the fact we still had rescue operations in dehdasht last night explains how the pilot was rescued
Iran is claiming the 500km away operation, further from the crash site than the border of Iran is, was unrelated and foiled. It just seems like the military leaks about planning a commando raid on nuclear facilities in Ishfahan were true, it failed, and now we have bunch of destroyed aircraft in Ishfahan to show for it
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Except the destroyed aircraft are from the rescue operation. There are no others, Iran certainly isn't showing proof of there being two separate operations
bl123123bl@reddit
“Footage emerged of what was said to be night-time clashes in Iran’s Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad province, near the city of Dehdasht, about 30 miles from the coast in the south-west of the country, the area where US searches had been taking place.“
the guardian article clearly conflicts that
nuclearbearclaw@reddit
He's asking why you're leaning on a summary of the quote all the while he keeps ignoring the most crucial part of that quote which is "was completely foiled."
Weird, we got our guy, inflicted some casualties on Iran's bounty group/IRGC and bounced while taking no new casualties.
Looks like Zolfaghari is projecting a bunch here because his military got caught slacking. That's honestly fucking embarrassing for Iran.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Yup. Iran knew the op would be coming too.
nuclearbearclaw@reddit
Yep, they'll provide no evidence and reddit will still eat up their slopaganda.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
He already is lol he ignores the entire article except to try and cherry pick one quote to fit whatever narrative he's trying to push
When Iran shot down planes, we got the footage.
Now they are claiming to shoot down more with no footage but a bunch of wreckages that is all tightly packed. Not how shooting down works
Im_not_smelling_that@reddit
It must be incredibly hard to continue to deny the truth in the face of overwhelming facts. They must be paying you a lot of rubles.
bl123123bl@reddit
Dawg you made a point that was already covered in the first article, it’s not my fault you can’t read
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
The temporary air base was set up by Iran as seen by Iranians posting images of the grouped up destroyed C-130 and Little Bird in Iran, and wasn’t it reported to be the Isfahan area, which is really deep within Iran
bl123123bl@reddit
It wasn’t Ishfahan, it happened in Dehdasht
Big_Dinner3636@reddit
The FARP location was geolocated to Kolah Ghazi National Park
bl123123bl@reddit
“ Footage emerged of what was said to be night-time clashes in Iran’s Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad province, near the city of Dehdasht, about 30 miles from the coast in the south-west of the country, the area where US searches had been taking place.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/04/iran-search-missing-us-crew-member-downed-fighter-jet-second-day
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wionews.com/world/-us-op-was-completely-foiled-iran-s-military-says-american-military-used-abandoned-airport-to-rescue-f-15e-pilot-1775385460953/amp
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
It was 50km away from Isfahan. Just outright embarrassment for Iran. It would be like an enemy force setting up a base 30 miles away from NYC and conducting operations there.
Their 'any US solider who steps foot here will be slaughtered' narrative just went up in smoke.
bl123123bl@reddit
It was 500 km southwest of Ishfahan in Dadash lol
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
You cant make up your mind where it was.
First it was slightly over the boarder and the air strip was in Iraq. Now it's in Iran but not where everyone says it was.
This is what grasping at straws looks like.
bl123123bl@reddit
“Footage emerged of what was said to be night-time clashes in Iran’s Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad province, near the city of Dehdasht, about 30 miles from the coast in the south-west of the country, the area where US searches had been taking place.“
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/04/iran-search-missing-us-crew-member-downed-fighter-jet-second-day
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/05/world/live-news/iran-war-us-trump-oil?cid=android_app
Analysis has all the images coming out of iran 31 miles outside of Isfahan.
Iran got pantsd
bl123123bl@reddit
What am I even looking for in that article? there doesn’t seem to be any mention of location or Ishfahan
The guardian article even acknowledges American aircraft destroyed south of Ishfahan but the operation being Dehdasht
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wionews.com/world/-us-op-was-completely-foiled-iran-s-military-says-american-military-used-abandoned-airport-to-rescue-f-15e-pilot-1775385460953/amp
Iran acknowledged the US operated to get the pilot in Isfahan
Drab_Majesty@reddit
Yeah America is just tired of winning, Iran is gonna cave any day now. Bootlickers are just non stop entertainment
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
While America’s long term goals remains to be unclear and thought out with little foresight, its still best to be objective and say that perhaps Iran’s tactical capab isn’t as impressive as some might say it was given the clear violation of their airspace with old aircraft’s and boots on the ground?
Drab_Majesty@reddit
Iran is supposedly working blind right now so I am just not sure how it is mounting any successful resistance at all but sure lets rah rah some pep pep for USA dominance...
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
yeah im in favor of the rah rah and the pep pep
Drab_Majesty@reddit
I can tell LMAO
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
It's an outright embarrassment for Iran for the US to establish a temporary air strip, land multiple planes and launch a ground operation to get the guy.
Saw some aftermath footage last night from some of the Basji that got in a firefight with JSOC. It didn't end well for them.
rattleandhum@reddit
They're literally the global hegemon, have airbases all across the globe, have the world's reserve currency, the leading military manufacturers, own a majority of the satelites in the sky, and have had Iran under economic sanction for more than a decade (and strongarmed ally and enemy alike into abiding by those terms)... it was by no means a victory for the IRGC but, please, be real... this was no victory for the US either.
The Americans thought this war would be over in 2 weeks, max... and even if ground troops don't enter the fray, this conflict seems likely to last months.
Massive cope.
jordan853@reddit
Too bad any victory for US propaganda gets immediately nullified by the most recent unhinged incoherent ramblings of a delusional warmongering madman.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Yeah trump sucks.
There's a lot of unopened bottles just waiting for that day
SnooMuffins223@reddit
It truly is man.
The narrative that their foreign minister was trying build of iran being a meat grinder to any US soldier who sets foot on the ground, just got crippled.
JucheSuperSoldier01@reddit
“Degraded air defenses” while talking about a pilot rescue for a downed F15
soggybiscuit93@reddit
The air defenses would need to be degraded to get C130s into Iran
Hyndis@reddit
Apparently they even set up a FOB and airstrip inside of Iran, on the outskirts of one of Iran's major cities. Multiple C-130's of equipment and troops were brought in.
That'd be like Iran sneaking in and setting up a FOB and airfield in the suburbs of Los Angeles.
pinkycatcher@reddit
Take your cheap propaganda elsewhere. There’s no way you can bring heavy lift aircraft into a country without degraded air defenses.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Yet couldn't bring down a single slow c-130 or UH 60s or Apaches.
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
It’s heavily degraded if they’re capable of pulling off missions like this in a heavily contested area since everyone knows the approximate region a rescue attempt will take place. You’ll need dozens of downed aircraft within this time period if you‘ll want Iran’s air defenses to not be considered heavily degraded.
CommunalJellyRoll@reddit
Not really. Rescuing people doing war crimes is not the morale booster you think it is.
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
His most recent post is just so unhinged, what an embarrassment for that guy in spite of the extremely night impressive night time raid they pulled off in what appears to be the Isfaha area?
Aries_24@reddit
Condolences to many on this sub that Iran wasn't able to get to him first. I'm sure they're very disappointed.
I mean he was shot down in their territory and spent a decent amount of time behind enemy lines. How do you not capture him at all and instead let the Americans swoop in extract him out.
Drab_Majesty@reddit
Sounds like you are the one disappointed because nobody on this sub said anything like that... why do you need to be so weird?
Sufficient_Bite_4127@reddit
literally all of reddit was full of fantasies about Iran capturing this guy. People were getting off to the idea that the reason the search was taking so long was that Iran had already captured him, and they were luring the American search teams to just farm hundreds of captured Americans.
Granted, most of the discussion I am referring to happened on other subs since posting regulations prevented people posting about the incident ever 2 seconds here, but I highly doubt the average person here is less of an Iran simp than the average worldnews user.
seethe lol
Drab_Majesty@reddit
seethe lol you are just spiraling because you can't prove me wrong. Show me the receipts in this sub hoping Iran would capture the pilot... pretty simple
Sufficient_Bite_4127@reddit
laughing out loud because why are you too lazy to use your fat fingers to scroll down to reply directly beneath you where someone explicitly says that
Drab_Majesty@reddit
if they explicitly said that it would be so easy for you to share it but you don't, weird that...
Sufficient_Bite_4127@reddit
I just found out that my comments with the links were getting automatically removed, which makes sense because it is against reddit site wide rules. however, if you are actually too obese to waste 0.000000000000001 calories scrolling one inch, this is what you type after the link to this sub 1sd3sj9/comment/oefxql2/
Drab_Majesty@reddit
lolwut?
Sufficient_Bite_4127@reddit
I meant after the /comments lol. sorry for assuming that was obvious
Aries_24@reddit
Are you new to this subreddit?
Drab_Majesty@reddit
Been here longer than you evidently because you cannot reference a single instance. Facts over feelings, brother.
Sufficient_Bite_4127@reddit
after one of the pilots had already been captured, people were upvoting a guy saying both pilots had "definitely" been captured and downvoting a guy saying there was a chance both would be saved. you can't pretend people didn't want them captured
https://imgur.com/a/flVmGOk
Drab_Majesty@reddit
link the post in this sub then 🤡
Sufficient_Bite_4127@reddit
lmao. I actually can't believe you are too lazy to fucking scroll to the reply directly below you, but you use the clown emoji like I am the absurd one. https://www.reddit.com/r/anime_titties/comments/1sd3sj9/comment/oefxql2/
Aries_24@reddit
Lmao you want me to go post by post, comment by comment to provide examples that this sub leans heavily anti-US
Just like r/worldnews is bad because theyre too "rahhhh USA" this sub is no better just because it does the opposite.
You being willfully ignorant doesn't change that. Give me an actual break
rattleandhum@reddit
find any post, then.
Catalani@reddit
Wow, what an insight! Both sides... bad!! You have to be on american levels of chauvinism to reach such strong aphorisms.
Aries_24@reddit
Not what I said but okay 👍
maporita@reddit
Many people view the US as the bad guy at the moment. Which shows how much damage this administration has done to the US reputation. It takes a special kind of incompetence to make Iran look like a victim.
MrPoopMonster@reddit
It also takes a special kind of total reliance and unimportantance to not have anywhere to complain about America except on American platforms.
maporita@reddit
Correct, Western countries were wrong to believe that the US would always be a reliable ally. They see that now and are rapidly trying to pivot away from them, not just in consumer electronics but more importantly our entire trade relationships and in defense.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
The only reason US sourced products aren't as popular is because they're expensive though
Just look at China, massive bully among its neighbors but still buy from them because it's cheaper and in turn indirectly makes development possible.
MrPoopMonster@reddit
And in defense? I don't see any western countries breaking treaties or asking the American military to leave their countries.
And the only western non American 6th gen fighter program that isn't crasing and burning is being developed by 2 of America's closest allies the UK and Japan. And they're not changing sides anytime soon.
Provodniik@reddit
Iran was literally attacked under false pretenses as a result of american and jewish imperialism. You would have to be blind not to see it.
fnezio@reddit
So this guy signs up (completely optional btw) to bomb bridges and elementary schools and you root for him? Nationalist loser.
Aries_24@reddit
Aw, I'm sorry 😢
Catalani@reddit
The imperial child murdering war criminal machine is dabbing on the haters 😎 🤪🤪
Aries_24@reddit
Hell yea 😎
WorkingMastodon6147@reddit
I mean I am happy that both pilots were rescued. But they shouldn't be there in the first place, and yes it was a great operation. But I don't get why people are praising this given the US military is deadly lethal and efficient at least conventionally.
Aries_24@reddit
I agree they shouldn't be there in the first place. But they are, and as long as they are that doesnt mean I am going to root for their death or capture. This whole unnecessary war needs to end. It shouldn't have been started in the first place.
Joezev98@reddit
There seem to be a lot of users who don't believe as such, so this massive show of force should help disspell that.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
It's a big win in the propaganda war.
Considering Iran has been claiming to have downed an f35 and captured the pilot in some other sources.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
People on reddit are putting up a better fight in the comment sections than Iran did yesterday
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
You should see Youtube though, boy, they make reddit look like a child.
Hapchazzard@reddit
Kinda funny how MAGAts are trying to represent an incident where the US lost an F-15 + several other aircraft to a country with "completely destroyed and nonexistent air defense" as some kind of massive tactical victory of the U.S.
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
It is given the fact that air defenses didn’t even shoot down those planes unless you’ll like to explain why the wreckage site is all grouped up close to one another with no American fatalities seen within that site. Not to mention they had to setup an FARP 20KM from Isfahan, land transport planes supported b helicopters, and get the pilot out
QuinedQualia@reddit
From the initial shoot down to now, it’s around $2bn in assets gone. Two billion dollars which should be improving the lives of Americans is going up in smoke, for a pointless war nobody wants. There is nothing impressive about putting yourself in this stupid of a situation and then yelling about how you’re winning
TrizzyG@reddit
The budget of the military is 1 trillion a year - that money wouldnt be spent on improving anything whether or not it was lost nevermind the fact that it was money already spent anyway. Most of those assets have probably been in service for decades.
Just like Iran spends their money on missiles and rockets instead of improving the lives of their own people (who might we add, are unhappy enough to revolt and suffer thousands of deaths unlike the US), everywhere else in the world is like this.
Hapchazzard@reddit
The only reason why this operation was necessary was because Iranian air defense shot down the F-15 in the first place, that's my main point. The operation can be impressive in some sense while still itself ultimately being damage control and a net negative to the U.S.
Not that I think the capture of one random pilot or the destruction of a few planes matters at all to the calculus of this dumb war, though. Open the Strait of Hormuz or actually replace Iran's regime and then I'll be impressed.
Hamiltonblewit@reddit
I’ve seen aplenty of people throughout social media noting how disastrous it’ll be for a U.S airmen to be held hostage in Iran so the first instance of it would be an enormous deal. But still, the U.S can only do so much with two aircraft carrier fleet and no proper ground invasion, it’s either shock and awe or if that fails, just bombing Iran as much as they can without much oversight other than the hopes Iranian society would collapse in some way.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Yeah Iran failed to down low flying, slow prop planes and helicopters.
If they still had significant air defenses this operation wouldn't have even been feasible. The serbs shot down one night hawk in the 90s, doesn't mean they have formidable air defenses.
Capable-Yam4557@reddit
Let's be fair here. This is definitely a significant tactical victory for the US. The morale of US military and pro-war group is rising after what seemingly a stalemate war. Also this gives them confidence that Iran's ground troops are not as terrifying as people warned. This is a blow to IRGC internal morale and image. How can they not find a plane crashed inside their own territory for 2 days? This definitely a show of incompetence of Iran's ground forces, which is a bad sign when a ground invasion is looming on the horizon.
But the US, from the political administration to the common Americans, always have a problem of mistaking a tactical victory for a strategic victory. Small wins get overblown is a common occurance from Vietnam War to Iraq War. From logistical perspective, this is a big blow to the US method of war.
This event is the epitome of NATO doctrine (that inherited from Allies doctrine in WW2) of superior firepower over personel lives. It's a heroic sentiment to save lives over equipments, but armed conflict is not that simple. Superior firepower is a very viable doctrine when the war is short and the enemy is significantly weaker like Imperial Japan and the already battered Nazi. But can the US be sure that this war would be over fast?
Logistically, saving a pilot only to lose some planes doesn't make sense, especially if Iran is using cheap method of infrared like analysts says. This could happen again in the future, because the real problem of Iran's anti-AA that downed the F15E is still not resolved. If this happens again, would the US ready to save the pilots again? And ready to sacrifice planes again? Statistically speaking, this could spiraling into a sunken cost black hole. While the US economy is a giant, can it fund similar event like this again and again and again?
Without any ground invasion, Iran will win logistically (and logistics is 80% of the war), for every millions they spend, US Army has to spend dozens to hundreds of times. With ground invasion...Iran seems weak after this event, but their strength was never in symmetrical combat. Any unbiased military analysts says the same thing: Iran will initially lose a ground invasion, but occupation will be hell for the invaders. We will see.
dusjanbe@reddit
A reminder when the president of Iran, Ebrahim Raisi went missing after the helicopter crash in 2024, the same clowns couldn't find the helicopter within Iran had had to ask Turkey for help, the Turks send in their UAV to help with search and rescue.
The US located two of their pilots within Iran and extracted both of them.
JucheSuperSoldier01@reddit
Uhh did you watch the video of where the helicopter crash was? They were literally inside clouds. The fog was so thick, you couldn’t see shit (which was why it crashed in the first place). The US new exactly where the jet crashed and there was clear weather.
RoostasTowel@reddit
Then why did Iran need to get turkey to help find it
Arkantesios@reddit
Can you read?
Sufficient_Bite_4127@reddit
the point is that if fog is the issue, then why are Turks immune to fog?
Idk anything about this incident, but you are the missing the quite clear point in the comment.
RoostasTowel@reddit
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
Thank fucking god, just shows how much we care for our pilots and aviators. We probably knew where he was for a while, and then sent in a rescue team when the time was right. According to this article we made a foward airbase IN iran, but then our c130s go stuck in the sand, and so we had to destroy it and the helicopters it carried to prevent them falling in irans hands, then had to fly in 3 more aircraft.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Yup. Outright embarrassment for Iran to have the US set up a FARP inside Iran and get in and out less than 30 miles away from Isfahan
Slumunistmanifisto@reddit
Shouldn't fucking be there in the first place....
Now watch this drive
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
yeah but at least we go him
Slumunistmanifisto@reddit
From where?
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
Iran
Slumunistmanifisto@reddit
Yeah....we shouldn't be there!
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
Near Isfahan no less
WorkingMastodon6147@reddit
The US Government doesn't care about the pilot, they care about the embarrassment and the public backlash that would have come if they captured the pilot. I am happy that he/she was rescued but don't praise the government praise the military.
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
Yeah for sure, all of my praise is going to the men and women in the armed forces who where able to pull this off.
lostinspacs@reddit
A pretty significant blow to the IRGC and a rare win for the Trump admin.
As impressive as Iran’s missile and drone forces have been, their ground forces were completely overmatched deep in their own territory. This didn’t bode well for their ability to defend an invasion.
Hopefully this win leads to Trump seeing an off ramp, but knowing him he’ll ride the momentum and double down.