Parenting at the soft play - did I handle aggressive kids ok?
Posted by bigweeduk@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 97 comments
I am in UK, and have 2 boys, 4 and 8 years old. I took them to a soft play this weekend, and they were having a great time with each other. Eventually they got into the ball pit and started throwing balls over each other. One of the balls flew off and hit a different boy nearby on his arm - he was about 11 or 12 at a guess. Him and his friend (boy, also about 11 or 12) then started to pelt the balls at my boys faces with full power. I ran into the ball pit and asked my boys to leave with me. But the other boys kept throwing the balls at my sons. Now I know these aren't hard balls, but throwing something made of plastic at full force from close range certainly stings. Especially so for a 4 year old. I turned around and said in a loud voice 'STOP'. This got them to stop for a few seconds, but then they started telling me off that my son had thrown at them first, and who am I to tell them to stop. They then started pelting me in the face too. I hurried my kids out of there, and didn't say anything else. Even though I had a VERY strong urge to throw a few back at their faces at this point. Eventually, as we were leaving the soft play I saw them again on the way out - they came up to us and were pointing and laughing.
Was I correct in the way I dealt with this? Or have I just shown my kids they should always back off and run away from challenging situations? I was by myself, and didn't want to risk the kids fathers showing up throwing fists, and make this situation even worse. In the UK, I have a feeling if I had thrown some balls back at them I would have landed in court also.
I have been mulling it over for ages, and wondering whether the way I dealt with it modelled good approach and behaviour, or not. What do you think?
BeautifulPast4722@reddit
Actually had an incident today. 2 lads doing flips on a bouncy castle (my lads 7 they were 10/11) They've done a flip, landed on my boy, then wrestled on top of him. They didnt care no matter what I said, until I told there mum who was more mortified she had to pick her head out her phone then discipline her kids.
Unfortunately this is the world we live in. I say this as i also have my head buried in my phone though. (Childs asleep)
purplelilacs2017@reddit
I would’ve also raised it with the soft play management so they can permanently banned from the premises.
EtoshaLeopard@reddit
Yep this!
11 & 12 far too old for soft play imo.
Was at one with my 7 year old and their friend (7f) , 10 yr old boy punched her as hard as he could twice in the chest. We observed he was targeting all the younger girls doing this. Really nasty.
I told the staff who immediately went to his parents and kicked them all out.
kingbluetit@reddit
Soft play areas are full of cunty parents who don’t want to watch their kids. My two are little and generally hang in the toddler bit and there are ALWAYS older kids in their smashing about with parents nowhere to be seen.
PartyPoison98@reddit
I'm confused what sort of 12 year old is at a soft play, let alone the same soft play as a 4 year old.
HeavenDraven@reddit
Plenty of 12 year olds would still enjoy the giant climbing frame type of soft play.
Spank86@reddit
And a few 43yr olds. But we have to drag a kid usually.
HeavenDraven@reddit
It's not quite a soft play, but if you're anywhere in the vicinity of Alnwick, Lillidorei occasionally do Adults Only nights!
KelpFox05@reddit
I was at soft play at 12 years old. Hell, I'd still go today if I could.
spamjavelin@reddit
Have a kid, they'll drag you round them whether you like it and/or are capable or not!
bigweeduk@reddit (OP)
There's a trampoline area in there too, which I'm sure older kids would prefer. But nothing to stop them going into other areas
Aspect-Unusual@reddit
Most softplays ive taken my kids to are for 4-12 yearolds, and they are userally mostly comprised of large climbing areas with massive slides that are no different (except being padded but also much bigger) than the stuff you see in a park, most (but not all) have a ballpit userally with a aircannon you can put the balls into and fire them out of.
ChunkySalute@reddit
It happens a lot. Lazy parents are also a cause of this phenomenon.
Not enough monitoring of age restricted areas also helps to facilitate this.
SatinwithLatin@reddit
Older siblings that the parents dragged along, most probably.
TeaPlenty3782@reddit
I would have gone mental at them and probably got in trouble with the kids parents! So you kept your cool better than me.
What I also would have done is go and tell the soft play employees and advised there are older children being aggressive to a four year old.
Most soft plays have dedicated areas by age and split into sections to avoid this sort of thing. A 12 year old should not be in a ball pit with a a four year old. Younger kids need a safe space to play where they won’t get trampled on. Any responsible soft play owner will chuck the 12 year old out of the area for younger kids and even go and find their parents.
I would also try to find the kids parents and politely advise them what’s happened. If they are offended, they should’ve raised their little darlings better!
trin6948@reddit
A well managed soft play is worth every penny. I use my best teacher voice and stare at the little angels. They usually stop.
superjambi@reddit
Are you Mark Corrigan?
bigweeduk@reddit (OP)
Not sure who that is?
BlurryBenzo@reddit
He is an honourable man
That_Advertising9832@reddit
Peep show. This is literally a scene that happens to him
Puzzleheaded_Win_134@reddit
Why is your shirt so clean?
Jeremys_Iron_@reddit
OPs not the borough, she wishes she were!
djh_is_here@reddit
Chance would be a fine thing
Wizzpig25@reddit
Hey, clean shirt!
Baggin55@reddit
They’d of accidentally tripped up somehow. Told my boys school if some bully’s wouldn’t stop then he is to hit hard and fast. He’s 7. I also said I’d be bullying the parents. For some reason it all stopped.
lapsongsue@reddit
I used to do karate and when doing the classes aimed at self defence we were told no matter how experienced you are, if someone wants to hurt you they will. If you feel threatened, run away. If you can't easily get away, do as much as you can to buy yourself enough time to get to safety.
There's absolutely no shame in walking away from trouble. What could've been kids getting a bit too excited and taking things too far, it's not unreasonable to assume the worst outcome being a bit of cheek followed by sheepishly leaving you and your kids alone, is actually a lesson in using judgement when you sensed reasoning won't work.
They might get called names for doing this, but it's better than physical harm, or embroiled in something more serious that involves the police and they have to establish who was at fault.
Pale-Drawer2086@reddit
I just think you need to talk to the kids.i love how everyone is immediately jumping to the conclusion that they are terrible kids (or by extension their parents are bad people). A simple no, sorry my kids hit you but that's not kind could have defused the situation. You are the adult, you shouldn't be scared of their dad.
Spank86@reddit
A kid at soft play grabbed my god daughter round the neck the other week. I waited tossed if she would deal and when she didnt I picked him up with one hand pinned him to the floor and said "stay" in my best inherited primary school teacher voice.
When she wandered off he was still staying still.
Basically what im saying is lessons need to be learned.
Remote-Jellyfish-551@reddit
Reminds me of the time I was at a soft play and a 12 year old was messing about in the baby area. Told him off politely and explained this is for babies and he was too wild.
Mother stormed over and shouted at me to stop parenting her child causing a huge scene. Told her she is not parenting her child so someone else has to. She was stumped at that one and I got her permanently banned from that place.
Other people’s children are the worst.
Puzzled-Job9556@reddit
You can almost guarantee the sort of scum that the parents are.
FunkyYoghurt@reddit
A 12 year old at a soft play is ridiculous. You did the right thing. I don't know why society think it's wrong to tell off other people's children. Why not? Are school staff the only people allowed or something?
frostieslice@reddit
No, you did great. The little shits! Also, I always think it's a good thing for your kids to see you stick up for them!
Pockysocks@reddit
I'd have also told the people running the soft play. Good chance they aren't going to want an unfriendly environment for customers in their business.
helpmaboabjings@reddit
Lol one day those kids are gonna mess with the wrong adult.
I mean what else could you have done? I think you did the right thing and protected your kids from being hurt.
ImmediatePiano6690@reddit
Then the parents that do the bare minimum to look after the kids will scream bloody murder, acting like them and their kids are the pinnacle of civilised society.
IlIIIllIIlIlllII@reddit
I personally, with respect, think you're overthinking it.
Kids can get silly in stimulating enviroments, that doesnt make them bad kids. Some of the comments where, i assume adults are making life long predictions for these children based off one interaction is shocking.
This is escpeically true in soft play where the rules are a bit different and they are in an enviroment that encourages them to take risks and be excited and they are likely in a heightened hyperactive state.
If kids are going to rough play anywhere, its going to be in the ball pit.
You are within your right to step in and decide for your children when enough is enough. But, at the same time as you said they are plastic balls and your kdis arent made of glass. They need to learn themselves how to deal with situations too, they need to learn to decide what they are happy and unhappy with, you dont want them to grow up reyling on you to step in for them.
I feel like if you were concerned you could have gone and sat with them at first not immediately remove them because YOU didnt like it. If like you said they are throwing plastic balls at you, remember that this is a ball pit at a soft play, they are children and you are an adult, you might keep your head but this is very exciting for them.
Tell them to stop, if they do it again, tell them to stop again or you will speak to their parents, that normally works. If they keep doing it then get your kids to move along and dont let them in the ball pit.
I guess where I then say it might be you overthinking it is this assumption that a man might turn up to assault you, a women in public, at a childrens soft play, because its a little bit of a leap..
cloudswalking@reddit
Sounds like you kept your cool admirably. Well done.
Would I have done things differently? Yes... but I have a lot of experience with children. I'm used to holding boundaries, and my adrenaline wouldn't have spiked. I would have said quite a lot more to the preteens, firmly, but not raising my voice much.
As an example, I was in a large jacuzzi in a hotel when a group of teenage boys also got in. One of them talked very disparagingly and crudley about some girls in the swimming pool and all the boys laughed, and two joined in with the crudeness.
I told them how disappointed i was that they said such things, particularly in front of the myself and the other two women in the pool. That their mothers and grandmothers would be mortified to hear them. I met each of their eyes and most of them blushed or looked very abashed. Two tried to brazen it out, so I spoke to them directly. And after a very short time they both apologised.
I think, generally, our society is scared of standing up and speaking out, and yes, there is a small danger in doing so, but that danger is only present becase not enough people do it.
I would have used what happened as a teaching opportunity for the preteens, and my own childen. I would have definitely discussed it again with my own children afterwards at home, going through different scenarios like, what if they were on their own etc
It's worth looking at non violent communication for yourself, and modeling it to your children . Self confidence and articulacy are the biggest self protections. Your children live in a society that allows bullying and rape culture to be prevelant. So you need to bring up children who can defend themselves in every way.
There were no consequences for those preteens, so that encourages their behaviour. Every single adult in that space allowed that to happen. And you felt unable to do it on your own. Most people would do what you did.
If you want to be more able to deal with these things and teach your children not to be victims, then you need to learn those skills.. self defence, non-violent communication, de-escalation techniques- and read up on how children's, pre teen' s and teen's brains work.
The first few times, when your wound up and full of adrenaline, you won't do brilliantly, but it's like first aid, the more you do it, the easier it gets.
The most important thing as a parent, is to be gentle with yourself. Acknowledge all the good things you did in the situation, and decide if you want to do the same, or differently next time. We all do the best we can. All the time.
Weary_Pickle52@reddit
I would question in this specific situation how the parent would have stood up to them verbally though and had any justification- yes they were being rough throwing the balls back, but it was her children who were initially throwing balls over each others heads that initially hit the teens. IMO the whole situation would have been alleviated by her asking her own children to apologise for hitting them with a ball in the first place and asking her own children to stop throwing the balls (at her own admittance not at each other, but over their heads which would only potentially hit other children). If the teens had then antagonised her children after her own children had boundaries/ acceptable responses put in place- complaining about their reaction may have been more valid. The OPs children run the risk of becoming the teens who just throw back and laugh, as they weren’t reined in either for their antics- if they had been playing catch fair enough, but they weren’t they were also throwing balls that could hit someone else- this would be easy for anyone else in the ball pool to misinterpret as being thrown at them. The tweens reacted, but how many other children were also hit/ or potentially hit whose parents ushered them away as the OPs kids were throwing balls that may hit them. This parent dashed away as they were embarrassed, their subconscious realised they had no right to even attempt to correct the behaviour of other children throwing balls at people, whilst allowing their own children to do the exact same thing.
bellabanjsk@reddit
You did great! I’d have maybe demanded to know where their parents were and then stomped over and given them an earful too, but otherwise you stuck up for your kids and that’s important. I would definitely not have left them to deal with those older boys.
Eoin_McLove@reddit
I love the idea that you even considered throwing balls back at them but didn’t because you were worried about going to court 😅
This has to be fake
SatinwithLatin@reddit
Parents of bullies are often bullies themselves.
Mango5389@reddit
This is so true
InsaneNutter@reddit
We live in a country where 6 police officers turn up to arrest two parents working from home because of criticism towards a school in a private WhatsApp chat.
Seems a valid concern getting done for assualt.
Eoin_McLove@reddit
I haven’t heard of that. You got a link?
dodgrile@reddit
I looked this up because it sounded like one of those "you can be arrested for saying things on social media" things where it turns out the person was also trying to set fire to something. Nope, turns out this is entirely true, although it's worth adding that the police realised their screwup and had to pay damages for it.
donalmacc@reddit
Not OP but - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz1qy30v5o
I think the parent is implying this is. aregular thing and not a one off clear fuckup.
bigweeduk@reddit (OP)
Why would it be fake? I'm sure adults here have gone to court for less
spikewilliams2@reddit
Having stood up and very noisily threatened to punch a kids head through the wall tiles in the kids pool because he wouldn't leave my kids alone, I was surprised to receive an apology from the pool attendants after they threw the scumbags out.
Traditional-Win354@reddit
Nah, this would also be my thought process.
idontlikemondays321@reddit
You handled it fine. I don’t see anything wrong with an adult telling off a child if the parents aren’t around to do their job. Sometimes it takes a different adult to actually teach a lesson as parents can’t/wont bother to do so.
ExplodingDogs82@reddit
Soft play near me is for 2-8 year olds only …still some kids who are clearly older using it and often spoils if for my little girl.
She is a pretty fearless 2 year old but when there is a (at a guess) 14 yr old lad who bowls onto the trampoline and starts bouncing as hard as he can. It’s frightening for her as she cannot stand up and ends up being lurched around until I can rescue her.
Never quite sure whether to tell the kid off, tell the parents to sort it or tell the staff.
Really should be managed / overseen better by staff.
In your situation OP I would have been tempted to find their parent(s) and give them a vicious dressing down.
Best soft play’s I’ve been to have different floors for different age ranges to keep bigger kids and toddlers apart.
HoraceDerwent@reddit
Is this a real story 😂
A couple of 11 year-olds pelted you in the face with plastic balls and stood pointing and laughing at you as you slunk away with your kids. Cinema.
Talinia@reddit
Makes me think its rage bait based on media kicking off about "going to jail for anything nowadays while the actual criminal gets off scot free"
bigweeduk@reddit (OP)
Not rage bait. I have quite regularly seen older kids in soft play areas, but never had to deal with this kind of thing before
Talinia@reddit
I don't mean that older kids are never in areas they shouldn't be in. I mean the idea of being scared of going to court for throwing plastic balls at two kids.
I took a peek at your post history and you post in a lot of UK subs, so seems like you do actually live here, but specifically saying "in the UK" you'd end up in court makes it sound like you're not from here, and made me think it was likely fake.
bigweeduk@reddit (OP)
Hmmm ok thanks
AlwaysForever852@reddit
There's no way 11-12 year olds were in soft play - that's secondary school age!
geeered@reddit
Could well have been along with the family that had younger children.
DW_84@reddit
Believe me, you get 11 to 12 year olds in soft play.
I have a 5yo, and the amount of times that I've rounded on kids that age because they think it's hilarious to mock/wind up/trap/scare him (and his cousin) in a soft play is maddening!
Parents will dump them, then sit on phones or chat, completely oblivious to what they're little angels are doing.
I also used to manage one, and I had to push for the age limit to be dropped from 13, and get the height line lowered for this exact reason.
Glad-Feature-2117@reddit
Also, all the kids I know have grown out of soft play long before age 12!
underwater-sunlight@reddit
Quite often the older kids are dragged along because the younger siblings want to be there and the parents don't want to leave them alone. They may also make more of a day out of it by staying to eat as well
Celestial-gem@reddit
Sadly, I think it is real. Some kids are behaving so crazy because of their parents. Their parents do the talking behind others back, people of different races, nations, classes, incomes, occupations, other sexes, on and on. They affect their kids, and their kids just take actions for their parents.
I saw this, several times in a year.
kingsindian9@reddit
Errrrm, I think you handled it very well. Moment they threw balls at me i would have seen red. What were staff, other kids and parents doing/saying during all this?
bigweeduk@reddit (OP)
The ball pit is kind of hidden away under the multi level play area, so not easy to see in there unless you are inside the ball pit, or inside the play area and right outside the ball pit. No other parents or kids were around that area. Other parents in the cafe well away from play area. I normally wouldn't be in there either, but my youngest asked me so sweetly to come play with him I couldn't say no
Ok-Rain6295@reddit
You did the right thing. Throwing things back would only have escalated things. I would be asking the centre why 12 year olds are in a soft play area.
LucyLovesApples@reddit
I’d tell the workers there. At 11 and 12 they shouldn’t be in the ball pit anyway
yearsofpractice@reddit
You have your kids a great lesson in how to safely and effectively deal with a hostile situation. Seriously - you dealt with this perfectly.
Deep_Banana_6521@reddit
I would have maybe waited to see how my kids reacted before intervening. The soft play part is that it's very hard to get hurt in there. Like if you saw a kid pushing another off a slide onto a crash mat. That's why there's a crash mat.
If your lads started to cry, I'd have stepped in, but otherwise they're just having some fun.
Experiment328095@reddit
Removing yourself from a hostile situation isn’t a bad lesson for your kids
BmuthafuckinMagic@reddit
It's 9/10 the best option unless someone's life is in danger and a great lesson for kids to learn especially in this day and age where violence is the default response from some people because they have boundaries or know how to use their words.
Objective_Echo6492@reddit
Did you tell your children to be more considerate in their play and apologise to the boy they originally hit?
helpmaboabjings@reddit
Bait. Don't take the bait.
Objective_Echo6492@reddit
So you think it's a no as well?
helpmaboabjings@reddit
But. Don't take the bait
stinglikeameg@reddit
I appreciate you.
jejdhdijen@reddit
Try reading the entire post again pal.
Objective_Echo6492@reddit
Why don't you help me out and quote the bit where the parent did some parenting to their child?
jejdhdijen@reddit
So you want 4 and 8 year old brothers to stop throwing balls to eachother in a, wait for it, ball pit.
Objective_Echo6492@reddit
No, I want you to quote the bit that you think answers my question.
helpmaboabjings@reddit
Bait. Don't take the bait
Ok_Aioli3897@reddit
Exactly what I thought
Buddy-Matt@reddit
I mean, you started by trying to remove your boys from the situation, and only snapped when the two older boys continued being shits to an adult - and in an entirely reasonable manner.
The reasin they were pointing and laughing is because they clearly have zero discipline or respect, and literally dint know how else to deal with the fact the clearly upset someone else. I do not feel they have a good future ahead of them.
Ok_Address5844@reddit
I would've full sending a couple at their faces, although the wrong thing to do.
In reality I would have dobbed them in to their parents. Boys will be boys though.
Sage-Freke-@reddit
“Boys will be boys” is what lets little gits like this get away with so much. They may have more of a tendency than girls to be more aggressive, but they still need to be told it’s wrong and to respect other people.
CraigL8@reddit
I would have just said listen kids these are only 4 and 8 you’re 11. Them kids have been brought up the wrong way to continue doing it after you left though. They seen a weakness and acted on it. It shouldn’t have happened and even more so to an adult. It would have took a ball hitting your 4 year old in the eye to have them crying
Stunning-Profit8876@reddit
I mean, I'd probably be on the way to prison right now if I were put in that situation.
eluuu@reddit
jfc mate get a grip
Hostelhumma@reddit
You did the right thing by getting your children out of harm’s way. Who knows what’s going on with those boys but it’s not your problem.
Standard-Still-8128@reddit
Yes id have thrown a good few back
Ok_Aioli3897@reddit
I mean you didn't stop your kids throwing things before it got out of hand so no you didn't deal with this properly
ch536@reddit
Did you even read the post?
jejdhdijen@reddit
Oh no, his children were throwing balls to eachother.
Celestial-gem@reddit
Some kids have their own problems and they are at the edge of explosion. Your boy just triggered their buttons. Leave with your kids as quickly as you can. Let him explode.
Expresso_Presso@reddit
Don't forget to send a strongly worded email to the manager of the soft play centre
Shielo34@reddit
Throwing things at pre-teens is definitely not a good idea.
Sounds like you handled it reasonably well. Maybe another approach would be to say something like:
“Hey guys, be a bit gentle, you’re quite a bit bigger than them”.
Spottyjamie@reddit
You were fine
Sadly little gets in play areas will always be and their parents will blame your kid regardless
Its why theres some play areas i avoid due to the clientele
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