Well I'm a believer
Posted by Suspicious_Tailor542@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 59 comments
it finally happened to me. un used magazine that sat in the safe (loaded at 20 rds) exploded and made one hell of a racket.
babj615@reddit
What brand is that?
Suspicious_Tailor542@reddit (OP)
Stribog straight mag. Non reinforced.
RGBlowMe@reddit
Looks basically like an ETS mag, and those are known to do this. They're junk.
RGBlowMe@reddit
Common ETS mag L.
PoweroftheINTERNET@reddit
The only magazines I’ve ever had this happen to me are the factory Stribog gen 1 mags
Big_Z_Diddy@reddit
Aluminum GI mags last longer (my objective experience), and are lighter than polymer mags (a verifiable fact).
CFishing@reddit
Pmags are heavier than aluminum mags.
Big_Z_Diddy@reddit
That's pretty much what I said.
Fuckoakwood@reddit
Wait what?
Anyone have an explanation on what happened
msur@reddit
A magazine with plastic feed lips broke under spring pressure and barfed up 20 rounds of whatever it was holding.
once0217@reddit
I had that happen when I bought a couple Amend2 mags because they were cheap. Nothing like playing 60 round pickup by yourself. They didnt break at the feed lips, they just couldn't physically hold 30 rounds. They now get used for malfunction drills.
TemperReformanda@reddit
What actually happened here? Did the rounds fire, or did the magazine just break? I'm trying to understand what would cause the rounds to fire here.
bikumz@reddit
Plastic feed lips do be cracking. This was a huge problem with the scorpion mags, no clue if it still is.
SurviveAdaptWin@reddit
Which scorpion mags, and for which scorpion?
I have a CZ Scorpion with 2 CZ 20 rounders and some PMAGs and now you got me worried.
RH762@reddit
The Gen 1 and 2 CZ clear factory mags were the ones with cracking issues. The windowed black mags are find.
I’ve had bad luck with the Prepper gun shop/manticore arm clear mags with steel feed lips too. The plastic retention tabs that hold the feed lips will break. It seems like they also reduced the spring tensions on the follower which prevents my Evo from locking back with them.
ButtstufferMan@reddit
I bought mine like 2016 ish and those were the shitty mags.
bikumz@reddit
Cz Scorpion factory mags. Believe it was across the 20 and 30 rounders.
Beebjank@reddit
Same with Glock mags. Hate them
Free_Road697@reddit
Lmao glock mags are reinforced with steel, sorry you bought non oem ones.
Beebjank@reddit
Nope, these are OEM lol. I have more that are still in the original OEM packaging too when I did the bulk purchase. Also have had two baseplates fly off the bodies of 33 rounders.
Free_Road697@reddit
Ive had glock mags that have been loaded and uploaded for over 15 years of service. Glock mags dont explode lol.
Beebjank@reddit
Odd. Mine constantly have issues while no other reputable magazine has even gotten close to replicating. Sample size of two Glock mag compatible firearms and 3 OEM Glock mags in current rotation, two in the trash. I still have 4 or so more in the safe in their original packaging for when these inevitably just stop working again.
Free_Road697@reddit
Sure you do... I have over 100 glock mags in various capacities. The only thing that ever goes bad in glock mags are the springs, and thats after THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of rounds. I shoot close to 500 rounds of 9mm monthly just through my glock 17, 19 and pcc that takes glock mag alone. Pmags swell and feed lips break, ets are hot garbage, promags are trash, oem has never been an issue ever. Ive ran countless drills where ive dropped empty mags out straight to the ground and never even had a baseplate pop off. And Im not even a glock fan boy, im a sig guy. But my company made us carry glocks for over a decade so I acquired a TON of glock stuff. In that time.
Beebjank@reddit
I’ll take pics for you when I get home. Every single magazine in current rotation has these cracks
Beebjank@reddit
Glock lovers BTFO. All of my opened mags look like this
shmiddleedee@reddit
I've got a kuna. Right now the only mags for it are the ones made by them and they have a propensity to cracks I'm about 3k rounds in on 4 mags with no issues yet though
mrfixdit@reddit
Define racket, like did rounds start popping off or did you just happen to be near the safe when they started dribbling down?
Suspicious_Tailor542@reddit (OP)
About 15 ft away in the dining room. Sounded like a quick brrrt of shit getting thrown against the wall i guess?
KittehKittehKat@reddit
Baby A10.
Delta-IX@reddit
Babe10?
Aniquin@reddit
Clear plastics are generally more fragile than opaque ones because they don't have the reinforcing binders like fiberglass.
agnes_of_rome@reddit
It has little to do with that. Many commodity plastics are fairly brittle on their own. To fix this, we add plasticizers to them. These plasticizers are non-reactive liquids that can migrate over time, which is a major part of why rigid plastics can become brittle as they age.
Another thing that can ruin plastics is UV exposure, although probably not in a safe.
ZeroPointSpecter@reddit
It’s not really about “binders like fiberglass”; fiberglass is a reinforcement, not a binder. Not all opaque plastics are reinforced, and not all clear plastics are weak. It's mostly luck of the draw.
ArmQueerFolk@reddit
Opaque plastics are weakER regardless of if you get lucky with a good one though. There’s a reason the T mags aren’t getting recommended by folk who need the rifle working to live.
WarriorPoetVivec1516@reddit
Lancer are great. Worth every shekel.
GildSkiss@reddit
Now let's see a good mag do it.
Suspicious_Tailor542@reddit (OP)
I actually have had a plum ak74 mag do the exact same in the safe. Quality stuff fails too.
singlemale4cats@reddit
One might argue that quality stuff doesn't explosively disassemble itself while at rest
tykaboom@reddit
Metal doesn't do this.
Ok_Muffin_925@reddit
This makes me wonder. I have two .22LR magazines that my dad loaded in the 1970s. He passed, I inherited the his Hi Standard pistol an these mags have been in storage ever since. 50 years is a long time for mags to be loaded. Of course they are not polymer magazines.
RandallOfLegend@reddit
Clear plastic is inherently more brittle. Leaving the mag loaded wasn't what killed it. It already had a crack and just crept over time. It was going to fail in a few load/unload cycles anyway. Better to fail outside your firearm.
Mysterious-Plan93@reddit
"~THEN I SAW HER FACE!"
E_Rock99@reddit
dd_smithing@reddit
Now I'm a believer! 🎶
Edge-Evolution@reddit
And not a trace 🎵
SaintEyegor@reddit
Of doubt in my mind!
singlemale4cats@reddit
This is why I like metal reinforced feed lips
Forsaken-Storm-1700@reddit
Laughs in gen 3 pmag.
sexywizard420@reddit
I've had an issue with cracked feed lips, emailed global ordinance and they mailed me a replacement mag for free.
ABlackEngineer@reddit
Stribog? Everyone gets the metal feed lip mags anyways
Suspicious_Tailor542@reddit (OP)
Well, Colorado so im shit out of luck basically 🤣
jdmerk@reddit
Maybe you can warranty it? Typically maintenance isn’t considered the same as a new acquisition in the eyes of most of these gay laws. Just a thought.
bones_1775@reddit
Go out of state to buy them
Suspicious_Tailor542@reddit (OP)
And yes stribog. Og straight mags. I have a handful of the curved but this one was my "I've got to see it to believe it mag" that I left loaded.
throwaway11675@reddit
I have never seen this type of failure most of have been a micro crack that finally failed
ErgoNomicNomad@reddit
It's incredibly common
Suspicious_Tailor542@reddit (OP)
Incredibly common. Ive been waiting for a failure for years and it finally reared it's ugly head.
LeAdmin@reddit
Lancer or 'nuffin.
earl_the_recker@reddit
At 20 rds? Lol