Thoughts on the recent resignation of 3 Greek ministers over the EU farm subsidy scandal?

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Twofingers_@reddit

Resignations means nothing, they need to be set accountable for their actions and get punished.

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UzayK@reddit

LOL is crete like the sicily of italy or something? Genuine question

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TheNihilistGeek@reddit

It is the Greek version of Texas but without the oil

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Arpaxtiko21@reddit

History & geography seems your weak subjects dude

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mikewazoski59@reddit

True but Cretan prosperity always comes before Athenian bureaucracy.

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magnificent_wts@reddit

A bunch of former and current rich politicians are cretan. Like the pictured dildo.

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Worried-Owl-9198@reddit

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

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FantasticQuartet@reddit

The vast majority of the EU farm subsidy scandal happened in the island of Crete.

Also Mitsotakis is of Cretan descent.

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mikewazoski59@reddit

Instead of going to Brussels or Athens, it ended up in our people's pockets. Good for them! As long as Crete wins, I don't care how.

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TinyAsianMachine@reddit

You are everything wrong with Greece. Everything else I can live with, people like you are the only thing that keeps me from liking it.

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PieBright8211@reddit (OP)

Why do Cretans talk this way? Are they seeking independence or autonomy? What's the deal with you guys?

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They have historically been very corrupt (its not a recent thing) and a disproportionate number of political leaders originate from there. They are used to receiving preferential treatment, they are like a spoiled brat who leeches of their parents and is used to stomping his feet to get whatever he wants

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Substratas@reddit

Why do Cretans talk this way?

Because they’re culturally similar to Italians, not to Balkaners.

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Fatalaros@reddit

This isn't the case with all Cretans. Crete is however a very big island with significant population, that has both a a productive agricultural/fishing sector and tourist sector - almost self-sufficiet. Given that it is also an island, communities there have developed independently to the rest of Greece giving it a stronger regional identity (as if Greeks aren't already super regionalists) with strong family and community bonds. Did I mention the gun culture? So big voter base, coupled with difficulty to conduct inspections and control gives rise to criminal activities, corruption, family mafias and all our favourite balkan activities. Very good food also.

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Defiant_Being_9222@reddit

Of course they aren't seeking independence, lmao. If they were independent, they wouldn't be able to steal funds from other Greeks.

Also, I was joking... I hope most Cretans don't think like this. Then again, I have nothing to do with Crete, so I wouldn't know. All I know is they have been dominating the political scene lately. Both the PM and the opposition leader are from Crete.

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mikewazoski59@reddit

First family

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Rundas77@reddit

Οσο η Κρητη κλέβει εσυ να σαι χαρουμενος!!! Σιχάθηκα

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Substratas@reddit

Instead of going to Brussels or Athens it ended up in our peoples pockets. Good for them! As long as Crete wins, I don't care how.

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foodforkitties@reddit

Uhhhhhh no, they just “stole” the amounts that could’ve gone to other Greek farmers, who didn’t have any high-up political connections.

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mikewazoski59@reddit

Keep thinking that

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FantasticQuartet@reddit

Chad Crete.

I'm Peloponnesian but I respect the hustle

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Worried-Owl-9198@reddit

Thanks dude

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AtaturkWarrior1923@reddit

Wait, does ever authorities resign after scandals?

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Worried-Owl-9198@reddit

Greek ministers

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ddykl123@reddit

They do that, and then they proceed to tell you it's not their fault and "there's hardly any spillage" and "you're overreacting".

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NoReportedTaxes@reddit

„dear EU, it seems that Greece has 5 billion sheep more then last year. Please increase aid proprtionally. Thanks“

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Jazzlike-Moose3123@reddit

This has been going on for decades now i think?

Our politicians only want to get us in EU so they can steal that money for themselves lol.

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CockamouseGoesWee@reddit

And this is why everyone left Greece because it's led by these dipshits.

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Substratas@reddit

And this is why everyone left Greece because it's led by these dipshits who never do what the people need, just do what they can do maximize profit.

The unfortunate thing is that the local politicians are nothing but the reflection of the average citizen at the peak of their power. It’s the local, ultra corrupt cultures that breed such monsters in the Balkans, so they won’t be disappearing anytime soon.

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merdeauxfraises@reddit

As a Greek I have to agree. I don't think the average citizen is better than the corrupt politicians and would totally do the same if they found themselves in power. That said, the average doesn't mean 100% of the population. There are still about 40%-50% of the people who are genuinely good and honest and are suffering because the rest of the population are complete and utter dipshits.

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meremetallica@reddit

That's ironic considering the current government got an even higher percentage of votes from Greeks living abroad that it did from Greeks living in Greece. More specifically in the USA they got more than 60% of the votes which is unimaginable.

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CockamouseGoesWee@reddit

There is absolutely no one sane to vote for. You've got the Devil or Satan to choose from. It's like how Kim Jong Un gets 100% of the vote every year

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meremetallica@reddit

It is a choice between absolute incompetence and absolute corruption. Absolute corruption seems to have the upper hand for now.

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CockamouseGoesWee@reddit

100% my dude. And it's depressing seeing people fall for extremism

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merdeauxfraises@reddit

Not enough. I want all of the implicated people GONE and JAILED.

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TheCharalampos@reddit

No geek politician has ever been corrupt.

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trisul-108@reddit

My thoughts: great for Greece.

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Happy-Hour88@reddit

A country that relies mostly on tourism and agriculture will never be a modern, wealthy society.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Tourism is the worst. I miss those days when we had all the beaches to ourselves.

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Substratas@reddit

Tourism is the worst. I miss those days when we had all the beaches to ourselves.

Do you think the reason we don’t have them for ourselves anymore is because of tourism?

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Well, you can't grow crops in the sand.

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Happy-Hour88@reddit

High tech and business services is where the money is.

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More_Ad_5142@reddit

Dear Greece, we don’t have access to EU funds. Can you please steal some on our behalf so that our politicians have extra some pocket money. They keep stealing from the people. Yours Truly, Turkey

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Lvl100Centrist@reddit

depends. how many goats do you own, brother?

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Electronic_Ad_6171@reddit

They should learn from the Albanian PM, which has made corruption legal.

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kodial79@reddit

The asshole in the picture is the one who should be resigning.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

At least they have the decency to resign.

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Accomplished_Way_538@reddit

NOP the got ousted from the government.. They didn't resigned

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Fuzzy_Pen_6006@reddit

Greece is a country with huge potential, yet terrible purchasing power. Something needs to change.

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psyspin13@reddit

yet terrible purchasing power

Hum ho, have you forgotten the misanthropic bailout agreements and insane austerity measures Greece had to endure (and still does). The only purpose of these misanthropic austerity measures were to kill any purchasing power. Greece lost > 30% of its GDP within a few years, Ukraine that has many years of war lost LESS than that. Productivity plummeted, salaries/pensions were slashed around 50% and STILL Greece is under the bailout agreements, meaning it CANNOT increase salaries/pensions (it needs to maintain insane budget surplus that not even industrial countries like Germany COULD maintain in their golden years) . So, any surplus the Government makes, goes to the ECB.
Of course it doesnt help at all that the current government is the most corrupt Greece has seen in the last 40-50 years.

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CorazonCracker@reddit

We really are the potential man of the Balkans

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Fuzzy_Pen_6006@reddit

I hope that Croatia won’t be next Greece. We also heavily rely on tourism, yet we have potential to feed half of the Europe.

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Different-Ring1510@reddit

Can't build infrastructure and strong cities overnight.. some countries went for it early on.. others were chilling.. Croatian mentality is killing the potential progress.. people are happy with having enough..

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Redararis@reddit

greek society is addicted in clientelism like americans on fentanyl.

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Lvl100Centrist@reddit

what is interesting about this is the coordinated social media operation to distract from this, even on reddit on some subreddits here

censorship and lack of press freedom are at an all time high in greece. The government literally pays (via our taxes) online trolls to subvert, poison and destroy online spaces. This group is literally named "Truth Team" (or "Ομάδα Αλήθειας" in greek).

The government has been accused of deploying an extensive network of online trolls on X and TikTok for damage control, including a dedicated war room called Omada Alithias which serves as its mouthpiece. These operations systematically target and suppress dissenting voices, critical media outlets and investigative journalists – particularly those who have exposed the wiretapping scandal – through co-ordinated attacks and gaslighting tactics. These have included downplaying the scandal and dismissing investigative work as fake news.

The name "Truth Team" is obviously Orwellian but that is not the worst of it. Our government was responsible for the death of 79 people in the Tempi train crash and they are funding online trolls to mock their relatives and anyone who protested this or was even affected by this.

This level of informational wafare from a government against its own innocent citizens is rare for European standards. They should make a (or several) documentaries about this, and they have, and I think more will come.

This level of cruelty is unecessary, excessive and basically comical in its intensity. They are like cartoon villains. You kill someone's kids and then pay trolls to mock their death? Saddam Hussein would be proud.

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the_lonely_creeper@reddit

I agree, but you have a typo. It's 59 dead, not 79.

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Substratas@reddit

The government has been accused of deploying an extensive network of online trolls on X and TikTok for damage control, including a dedicated war room called Omada Alithias which serves as its mouthpiece. These operations systematically target and suppress dissenting voices, critical media outlets and investigative journalists – particularly those who have exposed the wiretapping scandal – through co-ordinated attacks and gaslighting tactics. These have included downplaying the scandal and dismissing investigative work as fake news.

The name "Truth Team" is obviously Orwellian but that is not the worst of it. Our government was responsible for the death of 79 people in the Tempi train crash and they are funding online trolls to mock their relatives and anyone who protested this or was even affected by this.

This level of informational wafare from a government against its own innocent citizens is rare for European standards. They should make a (or several) documentaries about this, and they have, and I think more will come.

Isn’t that what Russia is doing rn too? With all those paid online trolls? F*cking insane 🫢

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Remarkable_Echo5685@reddit

Similar situation in Serbia

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Inkaara@reddit

For everyone reading this btw we know their accounts because they are ridiculously blatant about it, for example following the government's red scare propaganda recently, and nothing is being done about them.

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Worried-Owl-9198@reddit

Bro you just described recep tayyip erdoğan 🤢everything matches up perfectly.

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Suitable-Decision-26@reddit

Bgarian ministers: You guys resign?

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TheGodfather742@reddit

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More_Ad_5142@reddit

Dear Greece, we don’t have access to EU funds. Can you please steal some on our behalf so that our politicians have extra some pocket money. They keep stealing from the people. Yours Truly, Turkey

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Brilliant_Success346@reddit

There is no hope for this country

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More_Ad_5142@reddit

Oh look another cultural similarity between Turkey and Greece 🙄

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Substratas@reddit

There is no hope for this country. His party can be involved in 100 scandals, he is still going to get votes

As long as there are people like this ⬇️

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Substratas@reddit

And this is why everyone left Greece because it's led by these dipshits who never do what the people need, just do what they can do maximize profit.

The sad thing is that the local politicians are nothing but the reflection of the average citizen at the peak of their power. It’s the local, ultra corrupt cultures that breed such monsters in the Balkans, so they won’t be disappearing anytime soon.

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Substratas@reddit

Wtf is this?!?! 😂😂😂😭💀

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Defiant_Being_9222@reddit

Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened

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accchi@reddit

Roger Federer from temu

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Inevitable_Motor_685@reddit

Epic balkan and eu moment

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Fun-Quail-7959@reddit

Roger Federer?

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CmdrJemison@reddit

What you mean "scandal"?

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Lenin9112@reddit

They should disband their whole party not replace their lost members

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FantasticQuartet@reddit

It will be interesting to see if Mitsotakis will manage to maintain the dominance he had last elections. Not just because of the scandals, but also because his opponents are much more numerous this time. New political parties are being formed.

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Dadsfinest93@reddit

the problem is just that they're too fragmented. A unified progressive-left party would be great, social democrats.

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FantasticQuartet@reddit

True. The left has a big problem in Greek in that they can't agree on anything. SYRIZA alone has how many spin off parties by now?

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korko13@reddit

Just another day in the columbia of Balkans as we the Greeks call our country. These scandals are something that is happening since the first day we started taking monet from the EU and we all know it. The difference is that for the first time we have proof and the politicians are going against the people that they gave the money....

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