Repair or replace 2014 subaru outback 150k miles?
Posted by Repulsive_Bottle_107@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 11 comments
brought my outback into an independent local shop and it was found unsafe to drive. the mechanic gave an estimate of 4-5k of repairs if we took car of everything but the quote with immediate issues that I'd have them do is around $2k before an additional brake inspection and steering and suspension diagnostic. I am wondering if its worth investing into this older car or if I should look into buying new.
On the quote:
- Brake fluid service - $128
- remove/replace water pump drive belt - $87
- power steering fluid service - $140
- Steering and suspension diagnostic - $87
- Oil/fluid leak inspection - $158
- Brake inspection - $42
- remove/replace control arms - $1,371
issues pointed out that arent on the quote:
- replace All struts (wear/mileage)
- front drive boots replace
- rear differential bushings replace
- Exhaust flange replacement
- drain and fill transmission
- drain and fill differentials
- suspected poor wheel bearing condition/need replacement
- Side sway bar links
- maybe spark plugs
- alignment and tire rotation
Thank you for the long read, I just worry this is going to get more expensive than $4k quickly.
prairie-man@reddit
Have you owned the car a long time, maybe since new ?
Is the car still in good condition: paint, interior, body (dents, rust, etc).
Do you still like the car and enjoy driving it ?
The car is paid for - no loan payments ?
Without commenting on each element of the quote - everything on the list is normal maintenance.
So... start chipping away at the items on the quote by priority: immediate, soon and later.
Or... get ready to start making car payments
Repulsive_Bottle_107@reddit (OP)
Thats kind of what i thought. It was my dads car bought new in 2013. Theres hail damage, paint damage, and the undersides a bit rusty. I figured doing the maintenance would be better than car payments as the cars fully paid off, just wanted to see if others thought investing several thousands into an older car was an ok idea
S7alker@reddit
we aren’t given crystal balls to see if we have a money pit situation when these things come up. They have a suspension diagnosis charge and an oil leak charge recommendation; you don’t know the full cost of repairs needed yet according to these not being done along with the brakes also being in an unknown condition.
Another issue is not knowing its service history unless you can find service records or if dealer maintained go to the dealer and talk to the service dept to see what has been done. If the car hasn’t been maintained well over the years then you may be putting good money behind bad at this point.
Is a car payment really that bad? I can’t say without knowing how much the worst case scenario of needed repairs are vs taking the whole of that money that would have gone to repairs and doing a down payment with trade in of this car instead.
I would hate that you do all this and end up in a year or so with a huge failure that requires you to go further down the pit. You said it has rust, rust belt rust or typical light rust? Another thing to get full understanding on before dropping money on the car.
prairie-man@reddit
is the local shop a Subaru specialist ? by your description, it sounds like this was the first time you have used this particular shop.
If you're not mechanically inclined; you really need a competent and honest repair technician you can trust. That person will the primary care physician for your car. Hopefully the mechanic that provided the quote, is that guy. Over time, you can figure out through casual conversation if they have a favorite beer or spirit. Occcasionally surprise them with it when you pick up your car after a service visit. Or drop off donuts when you leave your car to be serviced.
a parting comment: do a quick search to see how much a monthly payment would be for a new car. Set that money aside every month as though it really was a car loan payment. Use that for Subaru repairs. There will be months when the car is not in the shop, so that money is being saved toward a new car payment in the future,
Repulsive_Bottle_107@reddit (OP)
I do my own oil changes and can follow youtube mechanics well, the shop i went to isn’t specialized in subarus but i was recommended there anyway. The guy seems pretty genuine. I think i will set aside money and do the bare minimum repairs to keep my subie running well until i move on at some point in the future
prairie-man@reddit
very good. cool that it was your father's car.
2ndOpinionAutomotive@reddit
i've been in the automotive repair industry for many years and none of this sounds like an immediate safety issue unless somehow something is about to fall out (wheel bearing?). are you able to bring your own parts? control arm cost seems absolutely ridiculous based on me finding control arms for less than $100 online - retail could be 2x-3x but even with an alignment and (typical) 1 hour of labor each side, it shouldn't be that much. independent shops recommend replacing struts just because of mileage. I worked for an independent shop for some time and they are nothing but a scam typically. they just want to upsell you everything and half the time the advisor is just a money hungry jerk without any care in the world for what should actually be done with the vehicle. in terms of the wheel bearing can you provide photos of the estimate and their notes?
Repulsive_Bottle_107@reddit (OP)
The big concern they had is with both if the lower ball joints being very loose
2ndOpinionAutomotive@reddit
this makes sense. did you get under the car and have them show you? a little bit of play is still not ideal, but it's not an IMMEDIATE safety issue.
Repulsive_Bottle_107@reddit (OP)
Is it ok if i DM you?
2ndOpinionAutomotive@reddit
sure!