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Sensitive-Basis-6885@reddit

3.9mil is not much for military basically its amount for salaries for 3900 ppl for one month if they are getting paid 1000 euro gross. Lets not even talk about equipment one f16, one, costs around 70 million, i guess you can buy the wheels for that amount :P

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Ok_Macaron1885@reddit

They cant buy one bayraktar tb2 with that money

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Alone-Excitement8864@reddit

why i feel like just well operated flock of random kamikaze drones from Temu would blow up the bayraktar drone. we should do some cost efficient drons, instead of some fancy propaganda material.

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Sikish_Ustadi_31@reddit

Ananın amı it does not cost that much which happens to be the whole point of drones. Price efficiency yaaay

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Aesyn@reddit

what a username

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Commercial_Handle418@reddit

What does it mean

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Razor_EDG@reddit

master of coitus

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Commercial_Handle418@reddit

💀💀💀

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howtocounter@reddit

Thank you sikish ustadi 31

Amk!

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Archaeopteryx111@reddit

Ukraine has much better military drones than Turkey these days. No point in buying Bayraktars.

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CecilPeynir@reddit

Ukraine?

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Archaeopteryx111@reddit

Yes. Ukraine now has the most advanced military drone industry in the world.

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2026/04/ukraine-defense-industry-innovates-modern-war/412594/

https://www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-germany-drone-production/33723276.html

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Zrva_V3@reddit

These are literal toys compared to ours. We can produce these too, they're just in entirely different classes.

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Prior_Cookie_3381@reddit

Bait used to be beliavable

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senolgunes@reddit

I doubt they produce more drones than China or have more sophisticated ones than the US.

They are actively testing and developing their drones, so they have the best ones in the world for what’s needed in their situation. Cheap and effective drones with one task, and which operates without having superiority.

Saying that the Ukrainian drones are more sophisticated than the American ones is like saying than a Javelin is more sophisticated than a M1A2 Abrams SEPv3 MBT. Both shoots 120-ish mm missiles, but one is cheap and good at one job, while the other is more exposed but has many functions.

In today’s wars you would need both, but one is clearly more sophisticated.

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efesusss@reddit

It’s common sense at this point that Turkish, American and Israeli systems are the most advanced. Turkey itself is the global export leader. The two articles you sent, even if they were completely unbiased and true, don’t even claim that “Ukraine hast the most advanced drone industry”

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Ok_Macaron1885@reddit

Much better drones? It was bayraktars stopped russian advances early days of the war and no ukraine isnt making much better drones they make ton of cheap fpv kamikaze drones which also does the job and they still use bayraktars for long range missions also your country (romania) already bought 18 bayraktar tb2s for 321 million dollars now bayraktar posses naval drones tb3s and even unmanned aerial combat vecihles like bayraktar KIZILELMA

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Archaeopteryx111@reddit

https://www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-germany-drone-production/33723276.html

Ukraine’s military drone industry is now considered to be the most advanced in the world.

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KaraBoga61@reddit

Stfu Gypsy

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Ok_Macaron1885@reddit

https://www.sphericalinsights.com/blogs/top-7-most-powerful-defense-drones-in-2025-capabilities-and-comparison-for-military-strength

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/25712-worlds-best-military-drones?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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Ok_Macaron1885@reddit

Its not the most advenced its not even the most selled

https://www.cnas.org/publications/reports/drone-proliferation-dataset#:~:text=Number%2520of%2520Transfers%2520by%2520Seeker%2520Region%252C%25201995%E2%80%932023&text=The%2520entrance%2520of%2520China%2520and,States%2520only%2520provided%25208%2520percent.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/defense/turkiye-leads-as-top-global-supplier-of-drones/amp

As i said ukraine is mass producing fpv kamikaze drones as its easy and cheap to make and useful in field

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Berlin_GBD@reddit

Bayraktars had to stop being used on the front line very quickly. They were effective because Russia literally had to turn their radars off to stop shooting down their own stuff. Not because the Bayraktars are some magic superweapon. When Russia figured out how to stop shooting their own planes down, the SAM radars get turned back on and Bayraktar couldn't be used as aggressively anymore.

That being said, Ukraine doesn't make any long range multirole drones like Bayraktar. All of their drones are cheap, disposable ones. So they don't have anything that competes directly.

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P-l-Staker@reddit

Oh here we go!

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elbay@reddit

Idk man Ukrainians seem to like them

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Citaku357@reddit

My god I didn't know drones could cost that much

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JRJenss@reddit

We paid 6 million euro per TB2 - just the drone, but with the electronics and the munitions the price had doubled. Ultimately, the price for 6 fully equipped drones was around 70 million euros.

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P-l-Staker@reddit

The ones with weapons attached to them probably do.

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BlokZNCR@reddit

That money can buy almost 2 Bayraktar TB2

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Ujemegaz@reddit

I think they are sold in packages. Need training, a command post, probably spare parts and designs to be produced locally. All in 10m. I think we already got a handful of them.

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AcanthocephalaSea410@reddit

They can buy 3 Bayraktar drones, but we are giving them our Bayraktar drones for free. This isn't a huge amount of money; they could buy basic military equipment. The amount is so small that it hasn't even been reported in the Turkish media.

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averege_guy_kinda@reddit

jihad supports jihad

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Any-Consideration470@reddit

Serbs try not to sound like Israelis: Impossible

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averege_guy_kinda@reddit

Muslims try not to be NAZIS: Impossible

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Worth_Tailor1358@reddit

They owe us after the game

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LastHomeros@reddit

Considering how Kosovar hooligans made loud noises right in front of the hotel where Turkish players stayed to prevent them from sleeping before the match and how most of the Kosovar supporters booed during the Turkish anthem, Turks owe nothing to you.

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Any-Consideration470@reddit

Are you upset that Sweden removed that Danish coach because of the matches they had with us lil bro?

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Vyoin@reddit

Same shit also happens here, football hooligans are everywhere

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Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit

Shitty people are everywhere. But İ'll only remember the Kosovars that celebrated with us and gave us free beer

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KakaoFugl@reddit

Fortæl dem bro!

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Worried-Owl-9198@reddit

Take my taxes my lion spend them as you please.

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FortisPatria@reddit

selling world cup for not even €4 million is crazy😭🥀

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Kosovar91@reddit

We will hold Serbia Hostage for One million Dollars!

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Dull_Cucumber_3908@reddit

lol!

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Jazzlike-Moose3123@reddit

I think its mostly for paychecks of personal ,food,training and showing support. You can't buy any dangerous weapons with that money. So it wont scare anyone but it would reassure kosova that we are on their side.

Good move.

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HYBRIDLqTHEORY@reddit

Next Balkan war confirmed

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blendorana@reddit

Imagine being a serbian and not being obsessed with Kosovo

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longtermistCarrot@reddit

Imagine being Kosovar and not being obsessed with ultra-nationalist delusions.

Let's not kid ourselves. Serbia isn't the one that doesn't wanna cooperate anymore with it's regional partners.

Both Rama and Vucic have had great conversations recently about their goals to get into the EU and cooperate more on things like trade cooperation and stability for furthering their EU accession goals.

Kosovo is the one here that is trying to destabilize all these stable peaceful cooperative attempts in the region, which is why Kosovo has even fallen out with Albania.

And Albania is much more reasonable nowadays than Kosovo. Kosovo is just further isolating itself and turning into a rogue state.

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Krasniqi857@reddit

Kosovo does nothing, all they do is trying to finally kickstart Kosovo to be more into the lens of EU and Nato. Its Serbia that constanly cries Kosovo this Kosovo that for their votings

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blendorana@reddit

Your portals never post about serbia or the shit they do if it doesn’t involve us, cant say the same for the other side bruh leave us alone deal with the problem being ugly and retarded for gods sake

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NoReportedTaxes@reddit

I think thats the money for the planned Ammo-factory

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Perfect-Nail9413@reddit

planned Ammo-factory

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NoReportedTaxes@reddit

5.56 and 7.62 production lines should run in 2027 while drone research should start in 2028

English Report

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NidzoMadjija@reddit

They really want to prevent any kind of peaceful reintegration in the future, do they?

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avdaxumaxu@reddit

Sarcasm? What kind of peaceful reintegration was ever on the table.

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NidzoMadjija@reddit

It is always on the table, too bad nationalistic zeal is preventing any kind of peaceful resolution at the moment, but it does earn a lot of votes

Curiously, during the covid era a lot of Kosovo residents whipped up their old Yugoslav documents and went to the nearby southern towns to get vaccinated, so maybe it's not all bad

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avdaxumaxu@reddit

It is better to be peaceful neighbours in two countries than resentul neighbours in one. For one side it never was an option and frankly speaking, neither is it for the serbian side who always get a hissy fit the moment they see any type of positive confirmation of the albanian identity - e.g. an albanian flag.

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NidzoMadjija@reddit

We already are, Serbia and Albania. There's just this little thing getting in the way...

And realistically, why is living in Serbia not an option? It sure as hell was preferable to hundreds of thousands that fled hoxhaist regime, especially when you get a free apartment and zero bills forever, all paid by the federal budget.The way you put it sounds like the current state of affairs is somehow exclusively Serbian fault, and that absolutely zero xenophobia and intolerance is coming from the Albanian side, which simply isn't the case both now and in the past centuries.

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NidzoMadjija@reddit

We already are, Serbia and Albania. There's just this little thing getting in the way...

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NoReportedTaxes@reddit

The factory shouldnt pose any obstacle for EU integration. On the contrary, Kosovo will be even more desired for international markets

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I_scream_trucks@reddit

Making up for their indecision in the past war, however little it may be.

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chi_rho_eta@reddit

Kosovo threw the match and now they get the payout.

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Interesting-Ant-6726@reddit

USA is stepping down

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Ok_Local_3504@reddit

someone else is needed to step on serbs then.

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ChestCharacter1157@reddit

Any proof of that ?

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blumonste@reddit

Sending a shipment of simit or balık kraker for their soldiers' lunch?

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Ok-Respond9504@reddit

Lol 4 million nothing

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RoyaleKingdom78@reddit

Did erdogan pay that 3.9 million euros himself? I thought it was billion

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Vyoin@reddit

Bu arabalardaki cama tutacak yapıştırma cezasından gelen parayı yollamıştır

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Round-Essay378@reddit

ondan daha fazla para gelmiştir

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EnesAkhan@reddit

Giving more money would cause some dispute so they are giving small enough money to not be enough to buy any big stuff but big enough to buy off small arms (or maybe some factory idk) remember Turkiye still got "good enough" relations with Serbia too or others in the region you cant go off triggering others by donating some huge ahh money to a military in the region even if we have good relations with Kosovo or Bosnia

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LegiiSKG@reddit

Just good enough? Our president said that Erdogan regularly calls him to congratulate him on his birthday and on his family's patron saint day (slava), and even to check on his mother's health lol. If that doesn't constitute good relations, then I don't know what does /s

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Vyoin@reddit

do they also fuck eachother secretly

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Round-Essay378@reddit

probably

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zog_i_zi@reddit

Erdogan: whatzz up lil bitch? Srećna Slava. You think I forgot that you need to bring presents for Sultan.

Vçq: I didn’t your majesty.

Erdogan: is your mom dead yet?

Vçq: No.

Erdogan: I hope she will soon LOL. Hey pussy! Say that Murat was the greatest hero and all Serbs are pussies.

Vçq (on national television): Murat was greatest hero and all Serbs are pussies.

Erdogan: LOL. BiTCH. Kosovo is Turkey! Fck you!

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cursedsenpai@reddit

And you just believe everything he says? 😂😂

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EnesAkhan@reddit

Hey its just how fragile things can be in Balkan politics 😅

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AtaturkWarrior1923@reddit

Money

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ALGAZAR27@reddit

We love Kosova :)

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jadijadija@reddit

bruh, 3.9 mil is nothing, don't make a fuss out of it.

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DebtCollectorForMami@reddit

its 3.9 million more than zero

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P-l-Staker@reddit

I think what they mean is that it's not like they're building up for war. Just Turkey playing the geopolitics game.

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mikewazoski59@reddit

Considering greece provides zero actual aid to serbia, at least turkey is doing something. For example, a single Iranian drone costs only around $50k, so even a small budget like this goes a long way with the right equipment.

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P-l-Staker@reddit

Greece provides zero actual aid to Greece. So what's making you think they should be somehow aiding Serbia? 😅

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PieBright8211@reddit (OP)

Damn, the Romanian made a great point. Why aren't you guys giving us money, why?

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P-l-Staker@reddit

And why do you never wear those sexy underwear I bought you last Valentine's day? 🤨

I think we need to take a break from our relationship. 😢

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PieBright8211@reddit (OP)

Typical greek vanishing the moment money is mentioned.

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Flashy_Art_2289@reddit

Money? Where?

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Prigorec-Medjimurec@reddit

In the Serbs pocket.

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Vyoin@reddit

Not anymore

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bostanite@reddit

Uhmmm why would we be doing that exactly? 😂

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DryDatabase169@reddit

Thats like 30 trucks. 4 big houses

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KakaoFugl@reddit

3.9 million? Are they helping them building catapults and battering rams

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Careless-Situation68@reddit

how many helmets you buy with that?

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Firm_Shop2166@reddit

What’s happening is that Sultan Erdogan is attempting to revive the Ottoman Empire and re-islamize the Balkans. But we’ve had enough of that shit for 400 years. He’s not gonna be able to do so because, luckily, Turkey’s economy is fucked due to his Destroy the Modern Democratic Secular Turkish Republic dream (which is actually a nightmare for everyone else and for Ataturk).

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JaThatOneGooner@reddit

The government made 3.8 million, that’s all

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o6u2h4n@reddit

Kosovo is brothers for Turkey. They show support to each other even if it is small.

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Alexandros2099@reddit

Albanians after being under Ottoman rule for so many years, independence in 1912 they sure do love the Turk's...

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NikomedesV@reddit

Bizim vergiler yine bizden uzakta geziniyor.

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Luka-VRS@reddit

Ponoviće se 1912 godina☦️

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huge_bull_nuts@reddit

€3.9 mil

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MightySuki@reddit

Ottomans helping Ottoman leftovers

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ImamTrump@reddit

How much did Albania give ? Exactly.

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Alp2316@reddit

Meanwhile, the annual inflation rate in Türkiye is 55%. 12 million people are unemployed. 7 million children go to bed hungry. 14 million people live on state aid. And as if everything were fine in their own country, they are providing 3.9 million in military aid to Kosovo. They are spending the people's taxes as they please, without consulting the people. We are fed up with this government.

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bilalcelik1984@reddit

This is only a start. Soon it will be billions.

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tiga_94@reddit

3,9m is nothing though

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VukKiller@reddit

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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

Turkey regularly even gifts equipment to various nations. They are pulling various countries to their sphere of influence. This is happening for 1-2 decades now.

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OhWellImRightAgain@reddit

3.9 mil barely buys a patriot missile lmao

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celBanat@reddit

It can also buy supplies, equipment, fund some defenses, at least it's something.

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mikewazoski59@reddit

Considering greece provides zero actual aid to serbia at least turkey is doing something. For example, a single Iranian drone costs only around $50k, so even a small budget like this goes a long way with the right equipment.

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Consistent_Guava8592@reddit

Probably around a month of corned beef .

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Large-Assignment9320@reddit

Probably goes to buy turkish stuff.

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Citaku357@reddit

I mean thats how this works

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International-Bar151@reddit

Righhht nothing beats milking momma germany

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Ntinaras007@reddit

They will probably get smalls arms and ammo.

Or jeeps from WW2.

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EvilInGood@reddit

Why are we not helping our best neighbor Greece as well? Greece and Turkey are best friends after all

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senolgunes@reddit

Then they couldn’t say that dış güçler are helping Greece to prepare for an invasion.

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P-l-Staker@reddit

our best neighbor Greece

Not gonna lie, you brought a tear to my eyes 🥲

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Plebmar@reddit

I'd say help us, but it'd get stolen before it even crosses the border.

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EvilInGood@reddit

Goes straight to Romania💔

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Dead3Avenger@reddit

Nice

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Jose_Caveirinha_2001@reddit

Turkey gives huge money to Muslim Brotherhood. Go to visit Sarajevo and everywhere you'll see signs saying "paid by Turkey". Now, they want to expand the group.

The real question is, how will Muslim Brotherhood coexist in the same country where a huge US base is?

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roflstones@reddit

Nato base and us base are 2 different things

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Jose_Caveirinha_2001@reddit

Just like "I have a country house" and "my cousin has a country house".

When it's time to make a barbecue for your birthday, things are done.

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Responsible-Door-634@reddit

From the perspective of modern weapon systems Inadequate

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Perfect-Nail9413@reddit

It could be for the MKE factory.

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KakaoFugl@reddit

3.9 million 🤣 are they in need of catapults, battering rams and war horses 🤣🤣

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Perfect-Nail9413@reddit

It is mostly likely to build a new MKE factory.

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KataraMan@reddit

3.9M? We have third rate politicians that have stolen more from the state than this!

/s

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defnotachicken@reddit

I don't think you need the "/s", its probably true :P

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Sensitive-Emu1@reddit

We win again, Erdogan has 128 billion missing. You do everything we do a little worse.

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EnesAkhan@reddit

This isnt a first time thing . Turkiye constantly donates money to Kosova army but for some reason they decided to make it a big deal 😅 well its big emough to buy off small arms

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Plebmar@reddit

Shit, the local cleriks have probably stolen more.

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ElDudo_13@reddit

177 used Toyota Hilux from Germany, one can equip a small army with technicals

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AlternativeCover3117@reddit

new ferrari for the son of department of defense of kosovo

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Dazzling-Session-181@reddit

That's like - 1 tank or something.

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Dazzling-Session-181@reddit

Actually now that I think about it - with the EU stagnating and going from crisis to crisis and the USA withdrawing from the region, this might be a sign that Kosovo will soon run out of outside money to support its state. If Trump pulls the KFOR, I give Kosovo 1 year before imploding on itself. Turkiye will have to step up the lifeline, cause I do not see the Albanians or Croatians picking up the tab.

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Royal_Association750@reddit

Reparations for kicking us out of the World Cup but they couldn’t name it like that

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Divisive_Ass@reddit

Isn't that like,two bags of peanuts worth?

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OkBag8209@reddit

are they giving cash or worth of drones?

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BardhyliX@reddit

This is compensation for us selling the game last week.

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Neuralprotocol@reddit

Is Kosovo that much of Turkiye's proxy?

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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

Probably the corrupt akp giving money that can only be used to spend on his son in laws company

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Hopet28@reddit

The Turks are trying to make these *? relevant, to strengthen them, but in reality there will not be any significant progress with it or with any outside help...

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ChestCharacter1157@reddit

If you look at their forces from 10y ago and now, there is progress and not small one

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Hopet28@reddit

No matter how much they do or try to progress, it will only look as something on paper, while in the real life nothing.

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ChestCharacter1157@reddit

10 to 12y ago they didn t even have military, nor any military equipment aside small arms, they disn t have their own electric grid system, water supply, they didn t have any survailance system that are in their hands, i can keep going.....

Today they have everything, the only thing they do not have is one sign by Serbian govenrment

And you are telling me that is only on paper and it is nothing.... i have to be rude now, that is moronic thing to say

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Sekalino@reddit

€ 3.9 million or ₺ 200 motherflippin million

Yay big number ^^ ecomni stonk

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Various-Mousse848@reddit

Next year in Prizren! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOegsSmU9Xs

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shraman4@reddit

We got 10.5 million dollars for attending to World Cup btw. We needed to thank them in a way

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UnhappyBreadfruit607@reddit

(it's actually bribe money for loosing WC qualification final) We are actually aiding Kosovo so what

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LegiiSKG@reddit

That sum is pretty insignificant when you look at the amounts of money that major militaries in the region spend annually on defense. Even compared to Kosovo’s annual defense budget, it amounts to less than 1.5% of the total.

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muformoon@reddit

This is probably just for start

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Kindly_Scientist@reddit

bruh 4 million is nothing for millitary

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DaWhiteSingh@reddit

Come on man! Can we stop kicking the Balkan ant nest to start new global wars to paper over debt... please.

The world needs a rest.

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