The global oil crisis is turning into an everything crisis
Posted by banned4violence@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 91 comments
Posted by banned4violence@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 91 comments
MonoNoAware71@reddit
The everything crisis was already here for some time tbh.
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
This is r/collapse yet people still react to political events instead of seeing the ongoing degradation of the Earth's biophysical system that has been happening for decades. This war is not what is causing the decline of Earth's systems. It's not about dialysis patients - it's about the integrity of all species and the physical substrate they rely on. This war could over this afternoon and it would not matter.
PowerandSignal@reddit
There's always another war...
J-A-S-08@reddit
In the banana stand?
TernarySquare0123@reddit
I don't know if you noticed, but most of us eco-collapsers have left
this sub no longer wants to temper industry. it wants to capture industry from TPTB and scale it up!
we went from systems thinking to post-rationalizations. from concern for collapse of life to concern for collapse of capital
we are no longer among friends here
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
Is there a different sub where you hang out?
TernarySquare0123@reddit
i wish, but not for climate/collapse stuff. the subs i do visit are not great about it.
i'm just getting back online after awhile but i can list some of my old climate haunts.
if you need a primer (but your username sounds familiar?) there's no great choice but i encourage james hansen https://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
Thank you!
TernarySquare0123@reddit
Happy to help!
Low_Complex_9841@reddit
what is TPTB ?
TernarySquare0123@reddit
the powers that be
Grouchy_Solution_819@reddit
Will this crisis help the environment?
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
What will help the environment is societal collapse. We won't be able to keep up the insane level of economic growth which is what causes the problems (pollution, resource overuse, soil depletion, climate change, etc. etc.). Collapse won't be pretty for humanity but it will help most species and land and water forms.
Armouredmonk989@reddit
No less oil burned less aerosols means more heat means crop failures and fires then factor in the super elnino.
Mathfanforpresident@reddit
I just think it's so funny. We effectively evolved into the pinnacle of species and created an economic system that demands we destroy the shit out of our planet.
The politicians and leaders that put us here, only constantly thinking about 3 month periods and quarterly profits, deserve to meet the same fate that nobility met whenever they forgot the unspoken pact between the classes: You're billionaires because we allowed it.
You're rich because you used to build infrastructure, public works, and actually contribute to our society. So, that was the deal. The earth isn't large enough to escape the nightmare capitalism (THE ONLY WAY AN ECONOMY WORKS GUYZ hUrrRrrRrRdUuRr) created. Or, to hide from the angry masses.
Pretend-Bat9620@reddit
That is being very generous to a country which changes what it says more than once a day. The Americans do not think.
pvdfan@reddit
This is a country where a significant part think Born in the USA is a pro-Regan patriotic song and the rise of pro-war maga Grateful Dead fans. Even asking for the bare minimum is too much.
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
Exactly. When I think of what humans are capable of -- the art, the science -- and then I see how stupid we are politically, it makes me sad.
Bigmooddood@reddit
That's what happens when you're at the pea knuckle. What goes up must come down.
AngusScrimm---------@reddit
The first completely sane thread I've read this morning. Four reality based posts in a row.
JackBlackBowserSlaps@reddit
Look at the environmental purist over here. No societal collapse for them!
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
Obviously the collapse of Nature means global societal collapse. Does that need to be said on this sub?
polchiki@reddit
Exactly, wars and refugee crises were predicted to come with climate change. More than 50 years ago scientists said a rapidly changing climate will cause increased migration, food and goods shortages, financial crises, heightened tensions, and probably war. The polycrisis is more connected than we give it credit for. Missing the forest for the trees kind of situation.
StarlightLifter@reddit
Like the waters of the El Niño we are about to see, just under the surface..
1erRPIMA-fiesta@reddit
The microplastic in our brains is quickly turning into gold !
PermiePagan@reddit
Fun fact, it appears that covid infection may be harming our ability to clear micro/nanoplastics, and that's part of what's causing "long covid", it's a preview of life with nanoplastic overwhelm!
friendsandmodels@reddit
Nanoplastics are sooo out by now, Pikoplastic is the new hot shit
Lost_Birthday_3138@reddit
Planckoplastics is next
FrozenVikings@reddit
I'm eating whole lego pieces now.
DelayedTism@reddit
The macroplastics eat the microplastics
Historical-Mix8865@reddit
Pikoplastics, I choose you!
madcoins@reddit
Obesegens are also in the running
Pretend-Bat9620@reddit
Unlikely. Polymers are large molecules, 300pm is the size of an atom.
SaiyanPrinceAbubu@reddit
Do you have any additional reading on this you could point me to?
chrismetalrock@reddit
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11128561/
Cicadasladybirds@reddit
Wow, thanks for that link. COVID was never benign, no matter how much the overlords told us is was.
PermiePagan@reddit
Ding, that was my go to link for this as well. I've also written a substack post about how my current "healthy with long covid" protocol has ended up looking like a "get rid of nanoplastics" protocol, with methyl vitamins. Wasn't what I planned on doing, I just did tests on what I needed at the bare minimum, and it's micro/nanoplastics crap.
https://andrew42alchemist.substack.com/publish/post/192878104
chrismetalrock@reddit
this link isnt working for me. maybe its temporary.
KrankyKong28@reddit
Damn, I follow COVID-related news very closely but had somehow never heard about this. Thanks for sharing.
PermiePagan@reddit
It's not something the mainstream has picked up yet. A mouse model shows it, covid infection makes clearing microplastics harder. And a lot of the effective treatments for "long covid" are also what's used for micro/nanoplastics, mold toxins, and BPAs in those fancy "nanoparticle" clinics.
I've got a lot more links to evidence on my substack, pinned post in my profile.
KrankyKong28@reddit
That's awesome, tysm!
No_Candidate2195@reddit
100% not a coincidence
PermiePagan@reddit
Nope, it appears that removing nutrients from the food stream, causing chronic body dysfunction, and then pushing it into overwhelmed lymph-liver-kidneys through chronic illness, or lung-heart-brain through heart disease is the main way they "thin the herd".
ChromaticStrike@reddit
Midastic brain.
moparcam@reddit
Article without paywall: https://archive.ph/6yWO2
GIGGLES708@reddit
Microgold
Sufficient-Bid1279@reddit
Macrogold
LarryCrabCake@reddit
FYI: the last oil tankers from hormuz before the war arrive in the US next week.
The shit isn't even in the same neighborhood as the fan and it's already bad.
J-96788-EU@reddit
Quickly, last chance to hoard and consume everything around you!
TheBroWhoLifts@reddit
Been preparing for this for a long time. Three chest freezers full, two regular fridge freezers full, full pantry, tanks and tanks of propane, solar array and home batteries. Oh, and a full tank of malice and spite towards every MAGA fuck around.
Electrical-Effect-62@reddit
god I wish I wasn't poor
TheBroWhoLifts@reddit
It definitely wasn't cheap. It took two years to build. Year 1 was just the panels at $29,000. Year 2 was the battery bank which was another $19,000 for a total of $48k paid in cash. BUT we were still eligible for the tax rebate and got $14,000 back on our returns over those two years. Total out of pocket $34k.
mimaikin-san@reddit
what happens when the power goes out?
Ill-Village-699@reddit
one last big feast with their community, right?
TheBroWhoLifts@reddit
I'm surrounded mostly by MAGA Trump trash, so no community feast. They can fuck off to the dark ages.
Ridiculously_Named@reddit
mimaikin-san@reddit
freezers consume ungodly amounts of power that I doubt a solar array & some batteries could maintain
TheBroWhoLifts@reddit
Lol hardly. If you're thinking it's a stack of marine batteries or something, uhh no. These are massive LiFePo batteries. For reference, we have three full chest freezers, two fullsize fridges with their own freezers, a kegerator, small garage fridge, and a wine fridge. Plus running everything else in the house, our three home batteries get us from sunset to sunrise most of the year. And that's not paring back which we would obviously do in an emergency.
We could run indefinitely if the grid failed. If the batteries ran out it's still not a problem. Once the sun rises, the system can black start when the panels begin to produce power. It's a self-forming grid. Wasn't cheap.
KiaRioGrl@reddit
Ours do. We farm, and run five chest freezers and two fridges. If our grid power goes out our battery setup can run them all for three days easily.
We did the math on the number of panels we need, and ordered the panels back in January (intuition based on gestures wildly at world events suggested supply chains were going to get messed up badly), and our order arrived in early February. Once the snow melt is all gone we'll be setting up the racking and getting them wired to our pre-existing batteries, so all our food preservation necessities will be completely off-grid.
solvalouLP@reddit
Chest freezers consume very little energy
Ridiculously_Named@reddit
chest freezers are extremely power efficient and keep things frozen for multiple days without any power at all
TheBroWhoLifts@reddit
We have a battery bank with 15 kWh capacity. Most of the year that gets us from sunset to sunrise with normal household usage. In an emergency we'd obviously pare back and could run indefinitely on solar and batteries.
meatspace@reddit
That's for saying it. Thats the reality check I needed.
banned4violence@reddit (OP)
I’m going to Costco after reading this article.
becomingthenewme@reddit
I would like the UN, or every country affected by this lunacy, to demand reparations from the USA. Firstly for starting this war, then for increased costs in everyday living as a result of the oil shenanigans. Going after the billionaires that encouraged Trump to start it would be an ideal place to begin. Let him feel them coming.
greasyspider@reddit
Who could have predicted this?
No_Detail2408@reddit
Time to max out my credit card or nah?
Ok-Secretary455@reddit
Mmmmm the odds this scotus signs off on bringing back debtors prison is a little too high for my taste.
theStaircaseProject@reddit
So maxing out other people’s credit cards then?
ArugulaAcrobatic4018@reddit
That's called a bailout, and it's definitely coming
holytoledo42@reddit
I think people need to know antidepressant protracted withdrawal syndrome in case antidepressants become scarce.
Antidepressants can cause long-term side effects that persist after you quit them, like PSSD (post-ssri sexual dysfunction), emotional blunting, and anhedonia (inability to feel pleasure). They can also cause long-term damage if you quit them cold turkey or taper too quickly. However, withdrawal injuries can also occur when tapering slowly under the supervision of a doctor. This long-term damage is called protracted withdrawal syndrome (PWS)/post-acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS).
Symptoms of antidepressant PWS can include brain damage, neurological damage, anhedonia (inability to feel pleasure), akathisia (feeling of inner restlessness), insomnia, central nervous system hypersensitivity, severe depression, severe anxiety, panic attacks, PSSD (genital numbness and erectile dysfunction), and many other awful symptoms that can last for years or even be permanent.
Despite antidepressants being widely prescribed and antidepressant PWS being a hellish condition, no one seems to talk about it. Most people believe that antidepressants are completely safe and that antidepressant withdrawal can only last a few weeks at most.
alienchoppingboard@reddit
This is my biggest fear. I'm on an anti depressant that's known to be particularly brutal to come off of. Within 4 hours of missing a dose I start going downhill. The withdrawals can cause seizures and death but I can't stockpile it for obvious reasons. And tapering off from my dose can take people years...
Konradleijon@reddit
The world runs as oil
Common_Objective9743@reddit
Its just another lie to make u pay more for the same shit
03263@reddit
Well the entire economy hinges on oil so, no surprise.
nothankeww@reddit
smoke em if ya got em
Ok-Friendship1635@reddit
TIL this phrase is actually about a last chance.
dolphone@reddit
Get em if you don't
Cuz they ain't getting cheaper
Doughtnutz@reddit
We should brand it the Trump crisis. Never forget.
defianceofone@reddit
Maybe we can be less reliant on fucking plastic? Especially for useless consumer goods of all things.
PM_ME_YOUR_LEFT_IRIS@reddit
I mean, that’s not really the right way to look at it. We’re not reliant on plastic as much as we’re reliant on electricity, which is being produced by oil. Plastic is effectively a waste byproduct of oil refinement that we have repurposed to a truly amazing degree.
The core problem is that we need more and more electricity, and so need more and more oil.
madcoins@reddit
Human babies now have plastic in every organ when brought into this world. And all over the world too.
TheRationalPsychotic@reddit
It's been 54 years since Limits To Growth (Club of Rome) in 1972 told us the world has limits. Mainstream news has waited till we hit the wall to stop the ponzi scheme sales pitch and start talking real. Molecules instead of politics. When it doesn't matter anymore, because it's too late.
96-62@reddit
So, if you have any last minute purchases to make, make them now while you still can. Bicycle, anyone?
Several_Initiative_2@reddit
I actually did buy a bicycle about two weeks ago and have been making sure to get new glasses on my insurance.
leisurechef@reddit
I’m happy helium is finally going to pop this ridiculous ai circlejerk bubble
madcoins@reddit
Overdue
RobertPaulsen1992@reddit
The mainstream media will continue to use words like "everything crisis" before they call it what it is: collapse.
StatementBot@reddit
The following submission statement was provided by /u/banned4violence:
SS: This is looking pretty serious when dialysis patients are being affected. Just today, The US and Israel hit more facilities in Iran, so this crisis is only escalating. It seems like you can’t stockpile your way out of this crisis because you have no idea what you may need tomorrow.
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1sc9na1/the_global_oil_crisis_is_turning_into_an/oe96p7b/
RoyalZeal@reddit
Non-paywalled version for everyone else out there.
banned4violence@reddit (OP)
SS: This is looking pretty serious when dialysis patients are being affected. Just today, The US and Israel hit more facilities in Iran, so this crisis is only escalating. It seems like you can’t stockpile your way out of this crisis because you have no idea what you may need tomorrow.