I had a Norinco M14s. It was a pretty nice gun. I was shooting one day and a National Match shooter was at the range. He told me that the Norinco receivers are highly coveted in the National Match world and that apparently they are more durable and more rigid than US ones. He offered me $1200 on the spot for it and I took it. Still regret that sale. Wish I had kept it and put it in an EBR chassis.
There was one of these in 7.62x39 on Forgotten Weapons. Ian shot it and enjoyed it since the recoil was so low. Though there were some magazine issues, but nothing too major.
Norinco and Polytech both made m14 copy’s. Quality varies between the two. Polytech tends to have better fit and finish. The Norinco I have is a little rough.
They have a fairly interesting history. They were produced from tooling that was either copied or the actual tooling that was supplied to Taiwan by the US.
They were imported to the US until their import was banned in 89, and continued to be imported in sporter configuration until 94?
As far as I know, very few people in China can legally possess firearms. Apart from military and police personnel, only professional shooting athletes, hunters and herdsmen in border pastoral areas, wildlife protection and scientific research personnel, etc., are allowed to legally own firearms.
This was not always the case. During the Cold War era, guns were fairly common among the population, especially in rural areas. It was actually a contributor to the Great Leap Forward's famine due to firearms being used in the extermination of sparrows in the Four Pests campaign.
It's not really surprising that there were a lot of guns around at that time because for the past 100ish years the whole region was in either at war, dealing with rebellions, or aquiring arms for the next war/rebellion.
It also helps that up into the 1980’s and 90’s, small arms that weren’t considered modern enough to issue to frontline military forces were often offloaded to the various militias in China (ie able bodied civilians that were given a crash course on how to use a weapon in the off chance China was invaded during the Cold War).
These groups didn’t start getting disbanded and disarmed until the 80’s, so you still had villages/towns with the equivalent of WW2 era and early Cold War weapons and ammunition on hand for the hypothetical invasion of China.
One of the ways they managed to disarm them was to take all those weapons and ship them off to the US as commercial arms sales during the 80’s and 90’s; the government made money off US gun owners for buying up old milsurp guns, and they managed to implement gun control by taking those arms out of the hands of the militias for the sake of “economic prosperity and public safety”.
And apparently in July 1972, "MV Karagatan" incident was an unsuccessful attempt by the Communist Party of the Philippines-New People's Army to smuggle armaments from Communist Mainland China to the Philippines via the ship MV Karagatan.
The Cargo?
Approximately 1,200 M-14 rifles (Chinese-made clones?)
Here's a link to the story.(with pictures of the rifles)
srivatsa_74@reddit
hell yeah
husqofaman@reddit
I had a Norinco M14s. It was a pretty nice gun. I was shooting one day and a National Match shooter was at the range. He told me that the Norinco receivers are highly coveted in the National Match world and that apparently they are more durable and more rigid than US ones. He offered me $1200 on the spot for it and I took it. Still regret that sale. Wish I had kept it and put it in an EBR chassis.
donkeydong1138@reddit
There was one of these in 7.62x39 on Forgotten Weapons. Ian shot it and enjoyed it since the recoil was so low. Though there were some magazine issues, but nothing too major.
LobsterManCommander@reddit
I think the sks is just a better rifle both are worse then AKM/M16.
nglbrgr@reddit
woof
HachikoNekoGamer@reddit
By any chance is it Norinco?
CyberSoldat21@reddit
Norinco seems to be the only Chinese brand that copies a lot of guns so probably. They do make those M1A copies in 7.62x39
Salt-Wish5140@reddit
And 7.62 nato
Nav2140@reddit
An m1a in 7.62x39 sounds rad as hell
LeeFrann@reddit
We had them in Canada until they got prohibited in May 2020. Ian has a video on them
RallyPotato@reddit
Norinco and Polytech both made m14 copy’s. Quality varies between the two. Polytech tends to have better fit and finish. The Norinco I have is a little rough.
They have a fairly interesting history. They were produced from tooling that was either copied or the actual tooling that was supplied to Taiwan by the US.
They were imported to the US until their import was banned in 89, and continued to be imported in sporter configuration until 94?
GeneralBisV@reddit
Poly tech M14s with USGI bolts are the best you can get with an M14
Responsible-Purple38@reddit
Does China even have any form of gun rights?
Low-Career3769@reddit (OP)
As far as I know, very few people in China can legally possess firearms. Apart from military and police personnel, only professional shooting athletes, hunters and herdsmen in border pastoral areas, wildlife protection and scientific research personnel, etc., are allowed to legally own firearms.
FafnerTheBear@reddit
This was not always the case. During the Cold War era, guns were fairly common among the population, especially in rural areas. It was actually a contributor to the Great Leap Forward's famine due to firearms being used in the extermination of sparrows in the Four Pests campaign.
It's not really surprising that there were a lot of guns around at that time because for the past 100ish years the whole region was in either at war, dealing with rebellions, or aquiring arms for the next war/rebellion.
Verdha603@reddit
It also helps that up into the 1980’s and 90’s, small arms that weren’t considered modern enough to issue to frontline military forces were often offloaded to the various militias in China (ie able bodied civilians that were given a crash course on how to use a weapon in the off chance China was invaded during the Cold War).
These groups didn’t start getting disbanded and disarmed until the 80’s, so you still had villages/towns with the equivalent of WW2 era and early Cold War weapons and ammunition on hand for the hypothetical invasion of China.
One of the ways they managed to disarm them was to take all those weapons and ship them off to the US as commercial arms sales during the 80’s and 90’s; the government made money off US gun owners for buying up old milsurp guns, and they managed to implement gun control by taking those arms out of the hands of the militias for the sake of “economic prosperity and public safety”.
Stairmaker@reddit
So you mean offering above market rate to poor people who needed cash was a viable solution.
Best Canada can do is offer at or below market rate to people who don't really need that extra cash.
Wonder why the Canadian gun buy back is failing.
Internet_Troll14@reddit
Answer is NO.
schockergd@reddit
The answer is always how much money you have.
Internet_Troll14@reddit
Answer is NO.
GuyonaMoose@reddit
Shot lots of norincos in Canada very popular rifle
They where very hit or miss with accuracy and headspace
Tingyuns-top-guy@reddit
Yet another Chinese rip off
Rebel-665@reddit
Insurance machine. Woof.
FatFucker2988@reddit
I care more about Chinese Ian
Diligent_Activity_92@reddit
Chinese Ian in full effect!
Aggravating_Cable_32@reddit
I concur. Woof.
DanielDelights@reddit
Huh, I was studying some history.
And apparently in July 1972, "MV Karagatan" incident was an unsuccessful attempt by the Communist Party of the Philippines-New People's Army to smuggle armaments from Communist Mainland China to the Philippines via the ship MV Karagatan.
The Cargo?
Approximately 1,200 M-14 rifles (Chinese-made clones?)
Here's a link to the story.(with pictures of the rifles)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/448419778556851/posts/25816323748006438/
maverick118717@reddit
Woof
EvMund@reddit
🐕🐕
Stevko_1@reddit
they were pretty common in Canada at one point
CyberSoldat21@reddit
Chinese forgotten weapons looks great
_pxe@reddit
Norinco sold them ages ago.
I remember they were once blocked and seized because they found out the FA system was still in place and could be activated very easily.
theBFsniper@reddit
Asian Ian before GTA VI
Equivalent_Salad_389@reddit
This guy loves that rifle!
jameson3131@reddit
But it has not speed machine. Woof.
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