What’s one thing you could never give up about living in the U.S. for another country?
Posted by FunSeesaw7089@reddit | AskAnAmerican | View on Reddit | 699 comments
I’m Australian and we have tall poppy syndrome, so it honestly fascinates me how in the U.S. people can just fully be themselves without getting judged for it. Like being openly friendly, starting conversations with random people, that kind of thing. It seems so normal there, whereas here it can come off a bit weird.
RavenRead@reddit
Air conditioning and heating. Living at an optimal temperature at all times.
Water and bread for free in restaurants. Free refills.
Dryers. No hanging clothes outside and getting bugs and dirt on your clothes.
Screens on the windows and doors.
Talking about anything and not being thought of as “oversharing” or “too open”.
Adept_Carpet@reddit
It's so weird when you go to a nice place in some countries and they charge $0.05 for sugar in your coffee and $0.25 for an extra napkin. The waiters inevitably make a big deal about it.
I appreciate the frugality but I wish there was an option to take a $5 surcharge and just get what I need without a hassle. Being literally nickle and dimed for everything makes a meal that might be less than half the price it would be in the US feel more expensive.
JohnnyOneLung@reddit
Where have you been charged for sugar and napkins?
helpitgrow@reddit
As a child I was shocked when I was at a McDonald’s in England and asked for extra ketchup and they charged me. I had to go back to my mom and ask for money. It was probably like .15 cents but kid me didn’t think it was right when I can get a handful just for asking back home.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Uh... that does not happen ..yo may be miaremembering or asked for wacky too much ketchup
Burnallthepages@reddit
I had to pay for ketchup and sauces at McDonalds in the UK.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
I dont believe this. Unless you ordered 10 of them.have never seen it
Burnallthepages@reddit
IDGAF whether you believe it or not. Obviously facts are facts. You are probably like 15 and have never left your home country.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Lol ketchup swilling liar says what? I do tseeany facts here at all."facts are facts". Lies are lies bro
Burnallthepages@reddit
You are obviously a bored child acting as a troll but in case anyone else is interested….
Here ya go!
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Oh btw they have never charged me so they must just not like your face or probably your personality which....no surprise honestly
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Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Also can't open whatever stupid link you sent
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Lol says the weird liar.noonecharges you for ordering g the normal number of sauces. I get charged extra for extra sauces in Canada and the USalso.sorry you are such a pig and heap one at that. Lol here ya go!
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Ypu are a liar but nice try though I lived in the UK for years and still do half the yearo i know you are just a liar but nice Rey with your little attention getting atories.althpugh maybe you like to go in there and annoy everyone asking for 20 packs of ketchup like an American. Lolol.
RiverTadpolez@reddit
It depends on the franchise whether they charge for the little tubs of sauce with foil lids (some locations it is all free, but typically every McDonald's has free ketchup from a self-service station with little paper cups, inside the building. Just to explain why some people might be disagreeing with you.
bubblyH2OEmergency@reddit
maybe they are just a lot older than you. in Germany at McDonalds in the 1980s and 1990s, ketchup was 20 pfennigs.
helpitgrow@reddit
Yep, haven’t been to the UK since the 80’s.
LoudSheepherder5391@reddit
Have they stopped doing that?
When I was in Germany about 10 years ago, I was charged for ketchup. Like 20 or 30 cents.
I don't even use ketchup, but both me and the person working there were not native Germans and had trouble communicating. I just took the ketchup to get my food and move on.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
That is a laughably negligible amount and probably mea t to be dissuade rather than anything.
SerDankTheTall@reddit
So, exactly what they said?
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
No This was many years ago and fractions od a penny not 25 cents or whatever
Direct-Wolverine7846@reddit
Happen in Mc Donalds Panama.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Well I can't speak for panama
soup_curious_@reddit
Losing it at the mental image of a 5 year old being all aghast and offended at the audacity of having to pay for ketchup packets at a McDonald's 😂
I'm on your side, but damn that's funny
ForestOranges@reddit
Can confirm this, I went to several European countries this summer and it was definitely a thing.
DrBrappp@reddit
FREE THE CONDIMENTS!
Cthulwutang@reddit
$0.0015?
Ihateregistering6@reddit
Not napkins, but I remember in Australia that each ketchup packet was like 10 cents.
cjdstreet@reddit
You have not been to a nice place then. Europe's dumps may resemble nice places in america so you got confused
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SnoozuRN@reddit
Paying to use the bathroom in McDonald's, even though you are eating there. The the US McDonald's is where you go to use the bathroom on a road trip!
Crash217@reddit
I swear every time I’ve had to pay to use the bathroom in the last dozen years it was the nastiest bathroom I’d been in for the month too!
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Never been anywhere in the world where this happened.
never_cake@reddit
I have never seen this anywhere.
IReplyWithLebowski@reddit
Never being cold or hot sounds so bland tho. It’s ok to be a little uncomfortable in life,
elenchusis@reddit
We can be uncomfortable when we go outside. It's nice to be comfortable when you're sleeping
IReplyWithLebowski@reddit
Well, you can also use warmer bedding in winter and lighter in summer. We’re living on earth not a space ship. I wonder how much power it would use if everyone in the world did this?
SarcasticNinja1775@reddit
You remind me that BORU from a couple days ago of that guy who got mad that his neighbor was showering too much and turned off their water supply, so they could save "resources."
IReplyWithLebowski@reddit
For suggesting that not everyone on earth needs to live in a climate controlled cocoon?
How soft actually are you?
Communal-Lipstick@reddit
You honestly sound jealous of the AC. And we have extreme weather here, its more than a little uncomfortable. Try cleaning and cooking inside Arizona when it's 120° outside.
IReplyWithLebowski@reddit
I’m Australian and I have an AC.
I still think aiming for the same temperature year round indoors is unnecessary and wasteful.
Communal-Lipstick@reddit
Thats not even possible. You can put it on the same temp in the winter and summer but it isn't even close to the same temp. Its a mystery but if youre thinking our homes are like the space shuttle, not even close. In the winter we still need to wear sweaters in the house and shorts inside in the summer. I lived on the beach in Santa Monica, CA (Los Angeles) and I didnt have an ac, I could always just open the windows. 99% of the planter just isn't like that. Life with an AC/Heat is just so much better.
What are winter's like where you live?
Ov_Fire@reddit
Carbdoard houses. Try to build by European passive house standard.
BeerForThought@reddit
You don't have an outside kitchen?
LettingHimLead@reddit
When more people die of heatstroke in Europe than those that die of gun deaths in Europe, it’s time to install AC.
IReplyWithLebowski@reddit
Having an air conditioner, and living in a climate controlled environment that doubles worldwide energy usage are very different things.
czarfalcon@reddit
Nah, I’m typically pretty frugal, but I draw the line at being uncomfortable in my own home. Life’s too short to be sweating or shivering in the comfort of my home. Plus my electricity is 100% renewable, so I can use as much of it as I want guilt-free.
IReplyWithLebowski@reddit
I mean there’s a big difference between having a constant temperature, and being sweating or shivering.
BeerForThought@reddit
Agreed. You shouldn't feel cold inside a building during the summer. That's wasteful, unnatural, and hurts your body's acclamation to the hot weather outside.
Sallyfifth@reddit
I HATE having to dress unseasonally in order to be comfortable in my office.
iamkme@reddit
I live in Australia right now and line drying clothes here is a totally different experience than in the US. Things dry super quick and it keeps your clothes so crisp and nice.
ethnicman1971@reddit
Drying them in the sun gives the clothes a nice smell and somehow makes whites whiter too.
ddpc123@reddit
Yes, I’m in the US and have always had a dryer but during the spring and early summer we’ll put stuff on the line because they seem fresher somehow.
sweetT333@reddit
The time of year I wouldn't hang clothes.
Too much pollen and tree debris.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
What does sun smell like? Lol
ethnicman1971@reddit
It’s not that the sun itself smells like anything. I guess it is more an outdoorsy smell.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Again. I do t know what that means.
MissFabulina@reddit
On a nice, sunny, dry day...hang some clothes out to dry. Then you will learn what the commenter means. Because there is a specific smell...and it is a wonderful smell...when you hang your clothes to dry in the sun.
rulanmooge@reddit
Depends on where you are. Ours would smell like cows, goats, sheep or garlic. They could smell like alfalfa, though...that would be nice.
They would also be covered in bird poop or covered in tree pollen or spent fruit tree blossoms from our orchard. Nasty yellow dust clouds from pine trees if you live closer to the mountains that surround the valley.
Dreadful_Spiller@reddit
That’s why you use a clothesline with a cover.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
I have hung things out There is no smell. I have a surely no idea what ypu are on about but probably in your head
IReplyWithLebowski@reddit
Nope I agree, clothes smell nice that way.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Hard disagree Their outside smells like nothing
Dreadful_Spiller@reddit
What your artificial “fresh linen” air freshener or fabric softener smells like. Sort of breezy, ozoney smell.
CombatAnthropologist@reddit
Ozone. It smells like ozone and your clothes have that faint smell.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Lol. What?you sound insane
yzerizef@reddit
It smells fresh and not like chemicals or that heated fabric smell that you get from dryers.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Eh. I like the smell of clothes right out of the washer/dryer. Also i dont have to worry about rain
Ocean2731@reddit
A lot of the US gets really humid. In the southwest, line drying is quicker as it is for you.
Dreadful_Spiller@reddit
Even at 70-90% humidity in the summer in coastal Texas my clothes dry in a couple of hours outside.
Ocean2731@reddit
Yes, they dry but it takes a while.
originaljbw@reddit
Crisp like a teenage boy's mastrubation sock?
aceam92@reddit
Try living somewhere damp / humid. It’s awful and nothing ever feels dry
Yummy_Castoreum@reddit
Christ, I stayed at a shit guest house in Ireland and the linens were so damp that getting into bed may as well have been getting into bathwater.
szayl@reddit
That's great for everything except towels. I want fluffy towels that only a dryer can produce. 🥹
blootereddragon@reddit
And jeans. Line dried jeans are so still! But line dried sheets rock.
iamkme@reddit
The dryers here suck. It takes longer for them to dry in the dryer than it does outside. If you pop them in the dryer for like 15 min, then line dry, they don’t dry crunchy.
TrixieLurker@reddit
As a kid we dried our clothes during the nicer months and it was great, but for winter, had to use the dryers at the laundromat.
Quirky-Invite7664@reddit
I don’t like crisp jeans. I have a weird thing about how clothes feel against my skin.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Especially in summer it only takes an hour or two to dry (In WA)!
When I’m worried about bugs, I just throw it in the dryer for about 10 minutes and I’ve never had a problem.
iamkme@reddit
I live in Canberra and it only takes an hour or two n the summer there too. Now, it’s more like 3-4, but that’s still not bad. My dryer sucks, so line drying is better.
_badwithcomputer@reddit
Crappy mini splits in the main living room only is terrible. Give me forced air HVAC.
adlert1@reddit
Being charged €1 for lukewarm tap water was the most infuriating thing about the time I spent in Germany. I was chronically dehydrated there.
SuspiciousPriority@reddit
Lukewarm tap water in a glass the size of a baby food jar!!!
chinchaaa@reddit
I’m from the east coast and grew up with free bread. I live in Texas now and they don’t do free bread here. It’s depressing.
yeasayerstr@reddit
Living in Germany forced me to sacrifice all of those. The hardest was AC—until I ran a window unit one summer and it raised my energy bill the next year by almost 1000€.
jtet93@reddit
Water in restaurants is such an annoyance to me when I travel. I want like a big ass cup FILLED with ice and a ton of water. I swear I’m always so thirsty in Europe lol
Appropriate-Bid8671@reddit
Define "anything" because in my experience, americans don't have honest conversations about much.
SavannahInChicago@reddit
In Rome, where it was 80s-90s, our housekeeper would turn off the weak ass a/c when we were sightseeing and we would come back to a hot room.
exdeletedoldaccount@reddit
One place I visited that did bread right was France. Every restaurant I went to in Paris had a bowl of delicious bread the waiter constantly refilled.
Quirky-Invite7664@reddit
And free public toilets with toilet paper IN the stalls
secular_contraband@reddit
You mean you don't just have a room with a hole in the floor to shit in?
aceam92@reddit
Having lived abroad and now returned to the US, this is a good list of what I missed most about living in the US.
BakedBrie1993@reddit
The sense of individualism that allows me to rock a practically bald head and still be considered hot to a lot of guys is the same individualism that is getting us in trouble right now, but it's a privilege not everyone has. I can leave my house in pasties if I want to. I can hold any job as a woman (except president it seems). I eat a ton of different types of food each week. My grocery store is one block away and packed to the brim. My extended family is super diverse- racially, sexual orientation, careers- and progressive. I still cherish all of that even though things feel dire right now. Ask me again in 5 years lol
secular_contraband@reddit
You can't base that "not being open to a female president" on one or two cases. Imo, the country would be open to a female president who wasn't a heinous, horrible, murdering person.
BakedBrie1993@reddit
Huh? Lmao they were running against Orange.
secular_contraband@reddit
That's just how heinous and awful she is. You can't run one super unlikable woman, lose, then call the whole country misogynistic.
ManateeNipples@reddit
Hahahaha glad you made it so easyb to throw your opinion in the toilet 🤣
secular_contraband@reddit
See, that's the funny part. I can sit here all day telling you I'd love a female president, but the simple fact that I don't like the one you like makes me misogynistic.
BakedBrie1993@reddit
Please list all the "heinous" things she has done. I have my own list. None of the things on it come close to being as heinous as what the despicable man currently in office does.
Yes, we are so misogynistic that we chose a rapist oligarch twice.
secular_contraband@reddit
Hillary sat by as her husband, the PRESIDENT fucking raped and murdered as well.
I also hate Trump, so do with that what you will.
BakedBrie1993@reddit
Your answer is something her husband did when she wasn't in office?
This is embarrassing. Try again.
secular_contraband@reddit
Are you kidding? He went to Epstein's island more than any other politician, and she hasn't said a WORD about it other than to deny it.
BakedBrie1993@reddit
So a reason to not vote for Hilary, someone who has worked in politics her entire life, is that her husband cavorted with Epstein, not her, her husband.
And so the better option was to vote for Epstein's bestie who held no prior political office? 🤡🤡🤡
The only way that makes sense is patriarchy.
ManateeNipples@reddit
Nope and you won't pull that bullshit with me. You know my point isnt that she's great but if you're still saying that stuff about her after you see what Trump has done, if you really still think she was worse than what he is, that says everything about you that anyone needs to know and the only people who should bother with your nonsense is other smooth brain maga geniuses.
secular_contraband@reddit
Hey, while I've got you here.
I've always wondered, what DO people like you think actually happened to Mark Middleton?
BakedBrie1993@reddit
I think the same thing as his family. He had persistent depression and suicidal ideation for years that got so bad in his last months that it concerned his family and then he killed himself. Absolutely no evidence to support another theory.
I also don't think the Clintons have murdered dozens of people.
secular_contraband@reddit
He shot himself in the chest with a shotgun AND hanged himself with an extension cord???
You'd agree with the narrative to and shut down down all investigation too if you were scared and threatened with your life. Come on, now....
Extra_Shirt5843@reddit
Honestly, the big issue for me was the bait and switch. Had there been a full, fair, primary and she won out, cool. But it just felt like a manipulative play to avoid her having to run much of a race and it didn't sit well with me. My state will go blue regardless, so I honestly didn't even vote for pres this time, but yeah. I'm a woman and am all for a strong, competent, woman in office, but I admit the whole thing sat wrong with me.
Yourlilemogirl@reddit
I'm allowed to be an independent woman without a male chaperone in public. For now.
RobinFarmwoman@reddit
But you're in Texas, you can expect that to change soon. Especially if you're pregnant.
Incineroarerer@reddit
This is the case in most places in the world
No_Walk_Town@reddit
I'm an American living overseas, and I was really surprised how much I missed pepperoni, breakfast sausage, and just seasoning in general.
Here in Japan, they have a phrase that doesn't translate to English very well, but you could call it their "ABC's of seasoning." And that's: sugar, salt, vinetar, soy sauce, and miso.
Which is fine at first - one thing I loved about living in rural Japan was getting my hands on some local soy sauce - it tasted completely different from any soy sauce I'd ever had.
But after a while...everything just starts to taste different shades of brown. Even the soy sauce, I've started craving the cheap Chinese takeout soy sauce from back home.
Fun fact: MSG was first produced in Japan, but it's called "chemical seasoning" in Japanese - cuz, y'know, that's what it is. And even MSG just gets boring after you've had enough of it.
I've kind of developed a bad habit of getting Domino's and McDonald's breakfast takeout a few times a month, because it's just the only reliable source of pepperoni and sausage I've found here.
boragigas@reddit
Had a conversation with a Japanese friend about their food, and how it seemed like it wasn’t spiced at all compared to Korean or Chinese food and she said that in Japan they really like to taste the flavor of the actual food. She said it somewhat self-righteously it was pretty funny.
jda404@reddit
I've heard many countries outside the U.S. that A/C isn't very common. I cannot imagine that in the summer. I live in PA which is a northern state, but even summers here are hot and humid. It's not unusual to have temps pushing 90f/32c (I know many in the south will say 90 isn't hot, to them I'd say 30 degrees isn't cold lol) I run my A/C constantly. I don't know anyone who doesn't have A/C and every store/business has A/C.
LifeApprehensive2818@reddit
To be fair, the US has some crazy temperature and humidity swings compared to many major European nations. London's average high temperature swings through about 16 °C through the year. Rome swings through 19 °C. For Philadelphia, it's 27 °C.
Able_Hunter_7966@reddit
Diversity
hisamsmith@reddit
There are things like air conditioning (I have a medical condition that makes it so I don’t sweat so no ac would be dangerous) and the ADA (American Disability Act) that would make living difficult in other countries. If we are talking about something trivial then the answer is ranch dressing.
goog1e@reddit
Yes, some of the most common meds in the USA also aren't generally offered abroad. I recall having to switch from Albuterol to a local equivalent. It was fine, but I was surprised. Other allergy meds were also not really a common thing. People just suffered.
If I had more complex medical issues I would have to do extensive research about the "usual treatment" before moving abroad.
Extension_Market_953@reddit
There isn’t Ranch everywhere!?
involevol@reddit
Cool Ranch Doritos are called Cool American flavor in some countries because they don’t have a reference for ranch dressing.
hisamsmith@reddit
According to lots of people I’ve met that immigrated to the USA from other places not really. I also have not seen it when I have traveled in the European continent or in the Caribbean. You might find it in American sections of grocery stores or American novelty shops and occasionally you might see Cool Ranch Doritos labeled as Cool American Doritos. Ranch is uniquely American. Interesting enough it was invented in the 1950s by a dude ranch owner. His ranch’s name? Hidden Valley. It was his own recipe that he served his guests at the ranch. It was so tasty that guests started taking home jars of it and eventually they started selling the mix packages through the mail. It didn’t reach its current popularity until the 1990s though.
Gaeilgeoir215@reddit
Window screens. If I ever live anywhere else in the world, I will absolutely get them installed. I don't want anything flying into my house or apartment that belongs outside.
Adept_Carpet@reddit
I went to Italy and it was hot. No AC (another nice thing about America). Asked people what I was supposed to do, they said open the windows.
But there are no screens? I remember all those Romans and Italians writing about the scourge of malaria every summer and every rich person leaving low lying areas for their health, what did they do to get rid of mosquitos?
Absolutely fucking nothing there was a cloud of mosquitos in our room 5 minutes later.
KegelFairy@reddit
I spent two months in Florence one summer and the mosquitos ate me alive. I was super sensitive and so every bite turned into a 3" welt. And then I got an allergic rash from the repellent my host mom gave me. It was not very ciao bella.
SilverStory6503@reddit
Florence is the worst! I was there for a few days and had welts all over my face for ... I forget, but after traveling to other countries and returning home with them.
Nice-Contest1499@reddit
Then come to Croatia, beautiful and just across the sea from Italy but AC is ubiquitous.
Burnallthepages@reddit
Interesting. Why is AC popular there but not other places?
Nice-Contest1499@reddit
Because Croatia is in Southern Europe and is generally hotter. You have to remember the fact that Croatia and Italy for example two countries in south of Europe are on the same latitude as New York and the closer to the equator you go the hotter it is.
So the reason why it's popular in Croatia is because you simply couldn't live without it. 3 months of extreme heat while in other countries such as Germany or Poland it may only be a few weeks to a month.
tuckedfexas@reddit
In Bosnia, AC is quite rare in homes
Agitated_Reveal_6211@reddit
Amazingly beautiful villages and cities, amazingly beautiful women, amazingly ok men (this is a joke), amazing nature!
Obi-Juan-K-Nobi@reddit
Beautiful women and OK men is standard everywhere. 😉
Agitated_Reveal_6211@reddit
Haha :)
Nice-Contest1499@reddit
Where have you been?
Blue_Star_Child@reddit
Ooo nice. What's a good place to visit?
hyliston@reddit
We visited Plitvice National Park last summer and it was amazing. There is nothing like it in the states.
Nice-Contest1499@reddit
I would recommend Zadar and Split. Come visit in early June or late September to avoid crowds. (We have 3.8 million people and 20 million annual visitors the vast majority of whom come in the summer to our coast which has like 1 000 000 people so you can guess how crowded it gets.)
TesticularNeckbeard@reddit
All of it. My wife and I took our honeymoon there, and went to several places and wanted to spend more time in each of them. Zagreb is a cool city that feels out of a Bond movie, the mountains and national park Plitvise (spelling), is very beautiful, Split has a historical and kind of party feel?, Dubrovnik is a very cool walled coastal town, truly amazing. And the food was great every where.
JimBones31@reddit
But do you have window screens?
Nice-Contest1499@reddit
On the island I vaccation on where my grandpa has a house a lot of people do but that's because it's small rural island so you couldn't live without them, in the cities 90% of the people do not.
JimBones31@reddit
Because there are not as many bugs in the city?
Nice-Contest1499@reddit
Yes, precisely.
JimBones31@reddit
Makes sense. As long as they are still common in the countryside where the bugs are.
Nice-Contest1499@reddit
Honestly I am not sure they are but you can easily buy them.
JimBones31@reddit
Good to hear!!
cautioner86@reddit
My friends who traveled there loved it, I hope to go someday!
1nfam0us@reddit
Even worse, because a lot of buildings are really old and made of stone, they often don't have proper ventilation.
My appartment in Italy has one door and two windows all on the same side. If I am not really deliberate about air circulation, the air can and has made me sick.
Trick_Football_1159@reddit
Can you elaborate? What do you mean about non-circulating air making you sick?
username-generica@reddit
We had that same problem with midges in the UK. A British friend of mine who moved to the US used to joke with me that we’d make a fortune off of global warming if we had a ceiling fan and window screen installation business in the US.
holymacaroley@reddit
We went to Venice, back when we lived in the UK and it was cheap to visit other countries. The big mistake was that it was June, so unbearably hot and so many mosquitoes. So, yup, had to have the small window open and we were getting eaten alive, even with bug spray. My friend is a polyglot who was fluent in 4 languages and somewhat passable in others. She insisted we let her set up our accommodations. We thought we were renting a private apartment where we could use the kitchen so we could make food occasionally and save some money. Instead, we were in someone's apartment who was still there, couldn't use the kitchen, had to be quiet all the time we were there. At that point, I wished we had just gotten a hotel.
coffeegrindz@reddit
Same in France when I was there last summer. Add to that the fact that very few apartments even have ceiling fans because they are so old. Nothing like sitting in a 7 story walk up apartment roasting because it’s a heat wave and you don’t even have a fan to turn on let alone ac🥲
FruitPlatter@reddit
Immigrated to Norway. Single-room AC units are sold in multiple big box stores every summer. It's getting popular, thank fuck.
SavannahInChicago@reddit
Oh, that’s why the girl in Italy was sleeping with mosquito netting.
luthiengreywood@reddit
What?! I live in Italy and have not been in a single house/apartment that does not have screens and blackout shades. Where in Italy were you?
bansidhecry@reddit
I lived in Italy and visit there every year. I’ve never been in a house with screens. I’m not taking about the “screen” black out shades can make but an actual mesh screen. I lived in Francavilla al Mare, Firenze, Foligno. Been to Napoli, Roma, Chieti, Perugia and I’ve never seen them. I have seen anti-zanzara oils and devices but never a mesh screen
luthiengreywood@reddit
So weird, yeah I know you're talking about the mosquito mesh screens. I live in Napoli and I'm sorry that was your experience. It's funny, when I lived in CA I had the opposite, no screens and no AC.
bansidhecry@reddit
Interesting. I live outside of Philly (grew up there, in fact) and every house has screens. Though older houses often do not have AC. The house I grew up in (1880's Victorian) with had no AC, still doesn't. My current house didn't but we added some mini-splits, so now it does. No new construction is without AC.
Quirky-Invite7664@reddit
In Italy, during the summer, I had a migraine. My husband couldn’t find ice for the ice pack I’d brought with me. Most miserable migraine EVER.
AluminumCansAndYarn@reddit
My friend was in greece during the summer for a wedding and could not find ice anywhere. I want to visit the Mediterranean but I am pretty reliant on cold beverages.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Eh. I live in nyc in a nice building but no screens. Pretty common.
BullsOnParadeFloats@reddit
Which floor? Because after a certain altitude, they become pretty unnecessary
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
3rd floor. And it's my 2nd apt in nyc. Bugs fly in. It is what it is. I dont have malaria
BullsOnParadeFloats@reddit
Malaria carrying mosquitoes dont live that far north, as the winters are far more brutal than Italy. Their climate is closer maybe to the Carolinas or Georgia, where anopheles mosquitoes actually live.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Oh BTW there was a yellow fever epidemic in nyc, several in fact so let's not pretend that one could never get an i sect borne disease in nyc. The point is bug screens are not ubiquitous
BullsOnParadeFloats@reddit
Theyre not as common in old buildings, but ones built in the last 75 years almost always have them. Especially if they have replacement windows.
It sounds like your landlord is a cheap bastard.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
No dude my building is less than 50 years old.also your logic neatly explains why many European buildings dont have them so...and also my building is great and I am not obsessed with bug screens like you are. Lol
BullsOnParadeFloats@reddit
Bud, where im at, we are dealing with more than mosquitoes and fruit flies. I don't really want to let wasps or hornets into my house when they are active in the middle of summer, and building a nest up in my loft attic. Its just basic common sense, not an "obsession".
I would probably include birds in there as well, as metro Detroit has a far larger variety and population of fauna than NYC.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Ok you live in some kind of insect ridden hell.dirsnt mean European cities are similar.
BullsOnParadeFloats@reddit
Well the area has a lot of water and hasnt completely replaced the marshland with cement and steel, like NYC has
Also, we have deer and other (somewhat) larger mammals who carry ticks that can spread Lyme disease
So you are literally using anecdotal evidence based on an area that is very close to ecologically dead to support your argument
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
I live once teal park lol.it is not ecologically d2ad. Grow up. Also ticks do not just fly into your windows. You are being ridiculous. Lol
scholarmasada@reddit
Jesus Christ dude do you leave your brain off before you start typing? No, Central Park is not representative of even a moderately natural area in most of the United States. The bugs that you’re dealing with in NYC are not the same bugs that many people across the country deal with in more natural environments. The points that you’re making aren’t insane or anything, but you’re clearly not thinking critically about how life where you are might differ from life in less modernized places. Having lived all over the Midwest, I would be uncomfortable to live somewhere without window screens.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Seriously how dumb are you? The previous pist was not about Europeans having bug screens in the middle of natural parks. It was about in inhabited or tourist visited areas. Why dont you try to get 2 neurons in a row to fire appropriately to the discussion being had.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Have you actually overturned your brain on and have you learned to read? Why are you so obtuse? I am making the point that not all Americans have bug screens. Grow the absolute f up. Miat European cities that you visit are not in the middle of nature preserves either. Jesus chroat. What is wrong with you?
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Again this os not comparable to European tourist areas. And my point of not all American rooms having bug screens remains valid
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Whatever, I kerpa bird feeder outside my windows. I can access it without having to remove a damn bug screen
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
I know that. Thar is my point .malaria mosquitos dont live in Rome either.
cjdstreet@reddit
So you went to the cheapest hostel in Italy and complain about ac?
blumieplume@reddit
My friend stayed in an Airbnb in Berlin with ac. Because of global warming, ac is becoming a lot more common even in countries far north in Europe that never would have needed ac had humans not fucked up our planet so bad. U can get ac in Europe is my point. The question is, is there anything about America that u love that u couldn’t find elsewhere. I can’t think of anything besides my family. Can u?
Gaeilgeoir215@reddit
No thanks!!!
ravenlily@reddit
Every time I go back home to Los Angeles to visit the parents they just leave all windows and patio doors open and no bugs. I don't remember bugs growing up either except for a few creepy spiders in the trees.
I moved to MN and yeah I don't open my windows and I have bug glue lights around the house.
DesperateHotel8532@reddit
My Aunt and Uncle live in LA. The first time I visited them I was shocked that we could all sit on their patio at dusk and not be eaten alive by mosquitoes. I’d never experienced that before, because I’m from Minnesota.
North-Country-5204@reddit
My dad and stepmom moved to the Bay Area from Houston. Every now and then dad will call to remind me he hasn’t seen a water roach or a mosquito in years.
armoredbearclock@reddit
I’m in the Bay Area. Our city at least has a pretty robust mosquito pesticide program. Property owners pay a special tax and the government takes care of monitoring, testing and spraying. So we do have them but we get rid of them.
RE1392@reddit
This is interesting as someone from the East Coast! Whenever I see those fancy CA houses that have entire walls that open up, I just imagine all the bugs that would get into their house. Now I’m even more jealous!
Gothmom85@reddit
Same! I love a good design show and I never understood it because the second warm weather hits, I'm a mosquito magnet. That idea always sounded awful to me.
solo_sola@reddit
Denver is like this too
thebrokedown@reddit
I’m from Mississippi, but I’ve spent a lot of summers in Minnesota. People talk about the terrible mosquitoes here, and I just laugh. Sure, we’ve got them. But have you ever lay in a tent on a sadly swampy campsite in Minnesota and wondered if you and your tent was about to be bodily carried away by them? Mississippi mosquitoes ain’t shit
WAR_T0RN1226@reddit
I visited Providence Rhode Island in the summer and had the same experience. Hardly saw a single flying insect when we were there
Slith_81@reddit
Now that I think about it, my parents lived in Florida before they passed and they always left the doors and patio wide open and I don't really recall any bugs.
Here in Indiana though I'd be swarmed with bugs for just opening my front door at night.
Jdevers77@reddit
They may have had a lania and you are forgetting it or something, but there isn’t a single place in Florida that isn’t absolutely crawling with mosquitos and gnats (no-see-ums). Even mid winter you get inundated instantly.
pubesinourteeth@reddit
Florida is where I've seen the most intense bug control. Entire rooms built completely out of screens so people can enjoy their pool
spicy_chick@reddit
Where in Florida? I'm in the panhandle and even with screens I still get the occasional bug, usually a wolf spider or flies, and lizards in the house. Probably through the doors since I've got the AC on already and don't really open the windows, especially this time of year with all the pollen.
Slith_81@reddit
Beverly Hills, I figured Florida would be worse from all the stories of giant cockroaches I've seen over the years.
I was down there from Jan-Mar, so perhaps the months makes a difference.
Still, it wasn't anywhere near like here for me. Granted they all swarm my front porch light, but I usually leave the house through my overhead garage door during warmer months or I'll get a large variety of bugs in my home from less than 30 seconds of opening my front door at night.
courtnet85@reddit
That’s about the only time of year you might get away with that
WhatWouldRaccoonsDo@reddit
The giant roaches (American cockroaches or “palmetto bugs” for those who don’t want to admit things are what they are) prefer to be outdoors & will usually only wander in during very bad storms (to get out of the rain) or significant drought (to find water). Has nothing to do with cleanliness, & you’ll pretty much never hear of swarms or infestations. But they’re huge & also fly, so you hear a lot about them.
The smaller roaches (German cockroaches) are the ones found everywhere that do swarm/infest & do correlate to lack of cleanliness.
Just being an informational dork. Do with it what you will. Carry on. :)
Coconut-bird@reddit
Lived my whole life in Northern Florida and we absolutely have bugs. There is no way I would just leave doors open with no screens. There are days I can barely walk from the house to the car.
coatingtonburlfactry@reddit
I live in South Florida and we certainly have a lot of critters. Our entire back porch is screened in with a giant cage and it wouldn't be possible to sit outside after sunset without it because of the mosquitos and flies that swarm because of all the preserve areas in the neighborhood.
finnbee2@reddit
Those lights attract insects that are attracted to light such as moths and midges that don't have mouth parts. They don't attract mosquitoes that are attracted to carbon dioxide and body heat/smell. Look closely at the killed insects. Many of the insects that look like mosquitoes don't have a proboscis. Those are midges.
Bashira42@reddit
Yes! Couldn't always get them, but did when I could at least for key windows. Subtropics of China. Yes, I'd like a breeze, but please not all the bugs coming in, or possibly an idiot pigeon, plus no cats getting out
FrostyVariation9798@reddit
To not have window screens would be beyond uncivilized. Not having AC is one thing, but if the country can't figure out window screens then there's no hope for them.
Gaeilgeoir215@reddit
It's largely an American thing, sadly. I don't know why. It's not like we're the only ones with mosquitoes!
Unable_Tumbleweed364@reddit
I like in Australia that a lot of the screens are also security screens. It makes me feel safer and I miss that here in the US!
Stan_Deviant@reddit
You can get them in the US but we use them more for people danger I think. I did really miss them when I moved to an area people didn't use them. I used to be able to leave my doors open overnight and lock the security screen and get good cool night airflow. (And in the mornings the screen was covered in preying mantis but I never got one in the house)
MacaroonSad8860@reddit
Eh we deal. I live on the fourth floor in London and apart from the occasional fruit fly I don’t get flying bugs in my flat
nordic-nomad@reddit
The volume of insects drops dramatically even 10 feet off the ground. By the time you get to where you’re at they’re pretty minimal.
Most mosquitos and flies don’t travel more than 100 meters from where they’re born. Just walking around your neighborhood and helping resolve issues with drainage and cleanliness can do a lot to make the bug situation in a city more bearable.
Sallyfifth@reddit
I feel like that's sort of a "dead-zone" for small, annoying flying insects, though? They don't usually go much higher than tall tree, because there's no food for them. Ground floor and first floor/second floor depending on your area are where the bugs are an issue.
somePig_buckeye@reddit
Just yesterday I had a bird fly in my house because I opened the door to get a cross breeze. The screen for my kitchen door hasn’t been put in yet and it was warm. The bird flew in and luckily stunned itself on the picture window and I was able to get it out. I had to turn on the a/c after that.
HerrDrAngst@reddit
Same in New York but they are not talking about living in a big city like New York or London
Anxious_Cry_855@reddit
Interesting, my aunt who lives on the 10th floor in Manhattan has screens on her windows.
No-Championship9542@reddit
You don't get bugs in rural England really
secular_contraband@reddit
Even the bugs don't want to live in England.
wbishopfbi@reddit
Yay, you don’t live where there are bugs.
Ok_You4518@reddit
It's not. Canada has window screens
EmperorJake@reddit
They are pretty standard in Australia too
Stefferdiddle@reddit
Well, you have the scarier creepy crawlers so I’m glad you all have screens.
EvenTheDogIsFat@reddit
In some American neighborhoods/social classes window screens are seen as trashy. On many high end homes they don’t install them. I guess they think that only poors like to open windows.
Semirhage527@reddit
I removed them from my house in the PNW because there just aren’t many bugs and I’ve never seen one fly into my home. It’s so nice not having screens between me and my garden.
vanguard_SSBN@reddit
Only where you need them. Basically nothing comes in. Maybe a fly or two, but they can be easily dispatched.
jda404@reddit
I haven't traveled out of the U.S. but have heard that yeah many places don't have screens on their windows and I never understood that one. Like why would you not want something that keeps bugs out but allows fresh air in.
Waltz8@reddit
One thing I find peculiar about the US is how the windows don't have "burglar bars".
nordic-nomad@reddit
In a lot of places windows are counted as emergency egress points to comply with fire codes. Which is a bigger concern in the US where the majority of buildings are just wood and gypsum.
So people of even limited mobility need to be able to get out of them in the care of an emergency. Still you’ll see them on older structures in poorer neighborhoods. Usually where drug addicts are common and will try to grab anything they can to sell. Cages around air conditioners so they can’t be scrapped for their metal is also common in those areas. But in most places cars are a bigger target for property crime than houses that might have dogs or people with guns in them.
HxH101kite@reddit
Some places do. You may see it in very low income areas with high crime rates. You will also see them for different reasons sometimes on taller buildings that are old to prevent jumpers.
In the age cameras they are needed less. Also like over half the country owns guns and of the gun owners the average amount is like 4-5 per household. Obviously where you are in the country plays a role in this. But just that at face value is a real flip of the coin.
FloofingWithFloofers@reddit
I had no idea this was an American thing, and I really should have with the way my mom talks about how bugs just fly in their house (she is SEA). I have cats, that is the BIGGEST reason we have them (my s/o actually put them together himself, a bit of work but way cheaper than having them installed!)
SnoozuRN@reddit
Yes, this. When we were in Croatia we slept with the windows open and I woke up with mosquito bites all over my face 😭. I made my husband remove them in all of our photos.
Quix66@reddit
I lived in Japan and China decades ago, and there were already screens on the windows except one out of four places. That was five floors up.
SteadfastEnd@reddit
But many if not most other nations do have window screens.
Lumpasiach@reddit
Yes. The true core is that it's not as ubiquitous elsewhere, but those places probably don't have as many bugs as America, so it's not seen as an absolute necessity.
Adorable-Ad9533@reddit
I don’t think this is exclusively American. We have them in Oz too.
DogsBikesAndMovies@reddit
Huh. I find that interesting. Yeah, we have random conversations with complete strangers. If I'm taking my dog for a walk (she's the cutest dog ever), it's very likely that someone will complement her and then we're talking about whatever. Or, maybe I'll see someone's hair and tell them that it's awesome. Whatever. I didn't realize that this is an American thing.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
And that’s so cool!!! !
It does happen here, but it’s definitely more rare, and not “normal”.
What might surprise you is that if you go to a pub alone here, no one will really talk to you hahaha
ForestOranges@reddit
I feel like a lot of people do go to bars with friends here, but depending on the vibe people may talk to you. In my experience the less crowded or busy the bar the more likely people will talk to you. If I go to a crowded bar alone a lot of people are with friends and don’t pay me any attention, but last week I went to a bar that wasn’t super busy, I met someone else, and we must’ve talked for over a half hour!
DogsBikesAndMovies@reddit
Wow. Of all places, a pub is the most likely place for us to strike up a conversation with a stranger.
jlt6666@reddit
That's kind of the point isn't it?
DogsBikesAndMovies@reddit
Yasss!
friendofpyrex@reddit
Umm...I'm sorry, but I actually have the cutest dog ever.
SoggyEconomist8242@reddit
This was the biggest culture shock for me as a Canadian when I worked in the US. It was such a pleasant surprise when cashiers would just start a small random conversations.
DogsBikesAndMovies@reddit
That surprises me. In America, Canadians have a reputation (that you have earned) for being super friendly.
secular_contraband@reddit
They're polite, but it doesn't mean they're friendly.
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
Go to France. They’ll look at you like you’ve lost your mind. Small talk is something they really don’t do to random strangers.
username-generica@reddit
My husband immigrated to the US during the early 90s. He now complains when we travel somewhere where there isn’t air conditioning or easy access to ice in drinks.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Americans are obsessed with ice
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
There is a reason for this.
My mom was born in 1925. Her family was one hair above going to the poor house poor.
Ice was a luxury back then. The grubby Poors drank room temp beverages. If you had any kind of refrigeration, you were living pretty high up on the hog. Iced tea was a luxury item.
Mom didn’t get a proper refrigerator until the early 1960s. The type that you could make your own ice with trays. Even then, people bought big bags of ice for parties because you’d never serve drinks without some ice.
Having ice meant you had money. Either to buy it or make it. You had money to buy an appliance that goes down to freezing and the electricity to run it to keep it that cold. Ice was a status symbol in a sense.
I can drink hot drinks. I can drink cold drinks. That luke warm barely above chilled makes me gag. But I wasn’t brought up with barely above room temperature drinks like my UK cousin.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Oooook. It isn't 1925 anymore.get over it
MediumStrange@reddit
I mean a lot europanean drink sparkling water for the same reason and will complain here if they don't get it. Like I'm sorry, but we don't put gravel in our water. Ice is just way better.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Can't you get sparkling water pretty much anywhere?
Lower_Department2940@reddit
At like, the grocery store. 90% of restaurants won't have it. The only places I can even think that regularly has them are maybe bars that sell canned drinks
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Where the hell do you live? It is everywhere i go because my partner routinely buys bottles of it for the car.
Lower_Department2940@reddit
East Coast US. Sparkling water is not a common restaurant drink
jtet93@reddit
Huh???? At least in New England you can order sparkling water or mineral water at basically any upscale place. Like yeah Applebees and Olive Garden probably don’t have it but most sit down restaurants will
delta_nu@reddit
New Englander who almost exclusively drinks plain seltzer here. Everyone has it. It literally comes out of the soda gun behind the bar or the soda taps at fast food. Extremely common no matter the price of the restaurant.
jtet93@reddit
Usually the stuff in the gun is club soda, to be fair. Which is different from seltzer which is different from sparkling water
delta_nu@reddit
Ok yes to seltzer vs club soda, but the difference is essentially meaningless. Seltzer is just sparking water though.
jtet93@reddit
Kind of. Usually when someone orders sparkling water they want a sparkling mineral water, sometimes naturally carbonated. Not like a polar seltzer
delta_nu@reddit
For those of us who like sparkling water, I promise you we don’t care if it’s mineral, club, or seltzer. Just give me my damn bubbles. This conversation is getting extremely pedantic and I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove? Almost every restaurant I’ve ever been to has at least one of these options.
jtet93@reddit
This conversation stemmed from a discussion about differences between water availability in Europe and the US. I promise you when Europeans order sparkling water they do not mean club soda or seltzer. And sparkling mineral water IS more widely available over there (like any little cafe will offer it) but it’s also not uncommon here.
And I mean you’re a little off base. if I personally was at a restaurant and ordered sparkling water I would fully expect them to bring a glass bottle of sparkling mineral water to the table, not seltzer. And if someone served me club soda straight I would definitely send it back. Like that’s just not a thing, it has a very unique flavor.
delta_nu@reddit
Ok I guess we disagree on what “sparkling water” is. I am not European. I order it literally every time I go anywhere. You’re correct that mineral water is not as widely available. I typically end up with club soda and tbh I prefer it over mineral water. It does not have a unique taste, I drink it all the time. You are correct it is not seltzer, but I do not give a shit. I just want sparkling water and the minute differences between these three options are not worth stressing about, unless you are European, I guess.
jtet93@reddit
Well if you prefer it over mineral water, clearly it tastes different, I’m just saying…
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
is everywhere. everywhere.
delta_nu@reddit
It comes out of the soda gun behind the bar or the soda tap at fast food places. Literally every restaurant has it.
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
That’s not sparkling water like Perrier. Club soda is a different beast. I’ll get club soda when my friends are drinking, because I don’t drink, and it looks like a vodka and soda. That’s what’s in the soda gun.
Brands would be Perrier, S. Pelligrino, Topo Chico or Saratoga in the US.
Only reason I know this is from my German and UK friends who told that club soda doesn’t equal sparkling water.
delta_nu@reddit
Club soda, seltzer, and mineral water are all forms of sparkling water and every restaurant will have at least one of these options. I do not care. Just give me my bubbles
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
I rarely see sparkling water offered in a US restaurant.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
What are you talking about? East coast? I live between Boston and NY.my partner lives in Maine. We get sparkling water everywhere from the 7 11 to the gas station Where are you looking?
MediumStrange@reddit
At fancier restaurants and grocery stores. But most casual and mom and pop restaurants will not have it.
Ov_Fire@reddit
We can drink still water at home. From the tap. Anytime. Our bottled water 90% of the time is natural mineral water.
MediumStrange@reddit
We drink water at home too, just with ice from our ice machines.
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
You ask for a reason I gave you one. Didn’t say you’d you were required to like the reason or even agree.
Stay grumpy. The look suits you.
SuspiciousPriority@reddit
Maybe you’d be less ornery if you had some ice in your drink 🥰
secular_contraband@reddit
Where are you from? Is everyone where you're from a salty asshole, or is it just you?
WARitter@reddit
We have been like this for 200 years.
It started back in the day because the eastern US between like Virginia and New York would get seriously hot in the summer but used to very seriously cold in the winter. So people could cut and store ice to use in the hot months, when they needed it.
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
My grandfather used to cut lake ice into have it over the summer as a kid.
You harvested grain in the fall and ice in the winter. lol
DoveOnTheInternet@reddit
They ain't wrong, either!
If it was simply hot here, that would be one thing. But here in the Mid-Atlantic/DMV it's a goddamn swamp. It's a thick, wet, claustrophobic heat punctuated with violent storms. All. Summer. Long.
Makes the gorgeous autumn worth it, tho. 🍂
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Yes thanks genius. We all know how ice got started. No need to constantly demand it and whine about everywhere you go now though
HxH101kite@reddit
As an American I've always found this odd. Like I like a nice cool drink as much as the next. Not a huge fan of ice in my drink though or the extent it's put in everything here
C2SKI@reddit
Especially ice thats been ruminating in someone's dirty freezer. It's usually pretty rank
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Yeah I find it annoying when there us so much ice. I can't get to the drink and my teeth hurt.
astralTacenda@reddit
yeah if i dont have a straw to get the liquid passed the ice i cant do it.
SavannahInChicago@reddit
It’s cultural I guess, like the Chinese drinking hot water. As long as people get in water that all that counts.
Ocean2731@reddit
I live in a hot part of the US. In the height of the summer, I’d lay across a huge block of ice if I could. Imagine. Coming home after a hot commute from work and just stretching out. Sounds like heaven.
Ov_Fire@reddit
Cold masks the taste, that's they drink their so called beer ice cold, while in Europe we drink it chilled.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
This is absolutely on point
JohnnyOneLung@reddit
Where do you travel that you cannot get ice in your drinks?
czarfalcon@reddit
Italy and India, in my experience. The few times I did find somewhere that could give me ice, it was barely a few cubes.
moth-on-ssri@reddit
I would not drink anything with ice in India anyway. Only Krishna knows where the water for that ice came from.
exitparadise@reddit
Russia. I tried to get some ice water after being in a Banya (sauna) for an hour. I think the guy went and chipped ice out of the frozen river. They were all drinking hot tea. I would have died without some ice water.
damutecebu@reddit
Many European countries. If you ask for it, they may put a couple of cubes in your glass, or bring you out a bowl with a few.
dmun_1953@reddit
Yeah, asking a European bartender for more ice and watching him grudgingly tong a single cube into your drink.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
I hate drinking out of a glass full of ice. It hurts my teeth and I can't get at the actual drink
exdeletedoldaccount@reddit
Basically every restaurant I’ve visited in England, France, and The Netherlands did not use ice. Although my experience might be limited because I only ordered water. They all bring you a pitcher or keep refilling a tiny glass, but no ice. This is something they do in the US at some (usually “nicer”) restaurants but most bring you a giant glass of ice water.
In Germany, you get an empty glass and anything you order to drink comes in a glass bottle for you to pour in the glass. No ice.
Now maybe I could have asked for ice but I’m not going to be the American who goes against the cultural norm. I can deal with it.
JohnnyOneLung@reddit
I have never been to a restaurant in England or Europe where a soft drink doesn’t come with ice cubes
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Some countries actually prefer warm water, like China, Japan, and Korea. But I’m sure most places will serve ice if you ask for it.
Wakinyan07@reddit
In traditional East Asian medicine, ice and ice-cold food are seen as harmful to your digestive fire and also bad for your overall health, so iced drinks are pretty uncommon outside European/American style establishments in those parts of the world.
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
My Japanese SIL prefers all her drinks basically at room/body temperature. When the idiot gaijin relatives come over, my BIL buys ice because I don’t think they even own ice cube trays. 🤣
Anuspissmuncher@reddit
Water in Japan is iced. Sometimes it's 90% i r
Reasonable_Mood_5260@reddit
Anywhere electricity is expensive, like most of Africa outside of resorts, you get a room temperature Fanta.
MobileOrdinary6827@reddit
Forget ice. I want free refills. It's crazy. I live in the UK now and I find myself slowly sipping my drink so I don't finish it before my meal comes or during then by the end I'll still have drink leftover. I've conditioned myself to fear not having enough to drink when out at restaurants.
Outlaw_Josie_Snails@reddit
I experienced that in restaurants in London and Paris.
I’m just glad that it’s becoming common for many restaurants in the US to place a glass carafe of water on the table and continuously refresh it throughout the meal.
ForestOranges@reddit
In London most places gave me free water… if you specifically asked
Farro_is_Good@reddit
I’ve traveled a lot and the ice is such a problem for me. I need 40oz of ice in my water at all times.
I-am-a-constant-LIAR@reddit
After having learned about Tall Poppy Snydrome, that we don't have it. Seriously. I love to talk to people, from every walk of life, every where I go. My MIL always said: "Hes never met a stranger"
DoctorDredd@reddit
I feel like certain places in the US have tall poppy syndrome, but maybe it just depends on the area. I grew up poor in the south in a very low socioeconomic area. I now work in healthcare and travel for work. I’ve been to about 15 different states so far for work, and I definitely feel as if I’m treated differently by people I used to know and even my own family for the fact that I’ve tried to better myself. I myself am not any different, and in spite of what my family and people I know might think I’m not rich by any measure of the word, but it’s always heavily implied that I think I’m too good for people now.
WAR_T0RN1226@reddit
Not sure how much different tall poppy is versus "crabs in a bucket" mentality, where when one crab manages to almost get out of the bucket, the other ones pull it down. That definitely sounds like a bucket of crabs
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
I think “crabs in a bucket” is more external, people pulling others down. Whereas tall poppy syndrome is more internalised. It makes people shrink themselves or avoid standing out because they already expect to be cut down
WAR_T0RN1226@reddit
That's what I thought it meant (like tall blade of grass) but my googling made it sound like it was more external than that
InvestorFace@reddit
What that means is that those people think you are too good for them.
I-am-a-constant-LIAR@reddit
My dad intentionally sabotaged every attempt that I had to better myself above where he was at. It was not until I was 50, and him living rent/utlitites free in one of my houses that he said he was proud.....of the way I could drive a truck. He stopped me from going to college, ruined my relatoinship with a neighbor, tried to destroy the motor in the Vette that I restored to original, anything he could to stop me from being "better than him".
u/War_torn 1226 is right, its a crab bucket mentality. I am willing to bet that is what you are seeing also, how do they treat others who they do not know who are successful? My dad admired it, just not from his Black-Sheep son.
LobsterNo3435@reddit
TIL @ tall poppy syndrome.
PreviousGolf9541@reddit
I’ve traveled to Australia twice and New Zealand once, two weeks each time, and TIL about Tall Poppy Syndrome. My sense is that as a short term visitor you wouldn’t notice it because Australians and Kiwis are very hospitable to guests, so it would only become apparent over time. I’ve also known a lot of Australians who come to the US to live and work and this syndrome seems to disappear here. Australians who work in the US are often high achievers, maybe in part because they are liberated from this cultural syndrome.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
We need more people like you in Australia! I feel like Americans are really good at making friends along the way and just chatting to anyone.
A lot of us here actually crave that sense of community, but people can be a bit scared of rejection or being looked at weirdly. It’s kind of ingrained, so most people just keep to themselves even if they don’t want to.
I-am-a-constant-LIAR@reddit
I wonder. What would they do if someone like me were to just start up a conversation with them? How would they respond?
I started it because being a truck driver, I realized that most truckdrivers tried to make a persons day worse (complaining, lying, etc), so I decided to make their day better. I joke with or compliment about everybody I meet, doctors office, restaurant, supermarket, anywhere.
Once you put a smile on someones face, the rest is easy, and I find that almost everybody will respond kindly and chat with me. Hard to reject someone who just told you that your (freshly manicured) nails look great, or that (for guys) you like their tatoo, shirt, hat, whatever.
Biggest thing is to choose something they have a choice over, something they choose to do/be. Kind of my not-rejecting them, telling them they made a good choice.
I guess I would really be a shock if I moved there, LoL.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
It’s funny because most people here are actually really nice and would chat back!
If you’re kind, people will respond well.
I think the difference is that a lot of us hold back from starting it, especially in the younger generation. Guys are worried about coming off as creepy, girls are worried about seeming weird, so everyone just plays it safe.
If someone like you started the conversation, most people would definitely be friendly. The hard part is getting past that ingrained hesitation to be the one who starts it, and the small chance of running into someone who might respond badly.
ComeSeptember@reddit
Can second this a million times. It was so easy for me to make friends in Australia. As you said, if you're kind, people will respond. As soon as anyone found out that I wasn't an asshole-type Anerican, I was wholeheartedly welcomed, introduced to more friends, etc. It was amazing!
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
I think it can be a bit harder for people who move to Australia long term though, like international students or immigrants, especially when it comes to connecting with locals.
Other than work or uni, it’s not always easy to find people who are actively looking for new friends, and building or maintaining new friendships isn’t really that easy here.
A lot of people already have their friendship groups from high school, so it can feel a bit closed off sometimes.
I feel like it’s different when you’re travelling though, people are more open and in that mindset, so it’s easier!
Don’t get me wrong, people are kind, but connections don’t always go anywhere, or it’s hard to find that one person you really click with long term :(
LazyJane211@reddit
Are you in Melbourne? People were not as friendly to us in Melbourne, haha.
randomname5478@reddit
Finding long term friends as an adult in the states can be difficult also.
para_diddle@reddit
My Dad was a professional tractor-trailer driver and was the same way. Always ready with a smile and a kind comment or quip. He made friends everywhere he went.
sunshowered@reddit
This is so interesting to me because I feel like Australians are the most outgoing people I meet in my travels. I find that yall have something that I call the Aussie audacity, which is where people will just give you anything you ask for, even if unreasonable and even if I’ve already asked for the same thing.
Meowmeowmeow31@reddit
I’m so surprised! I had always assumed Australia was similar to us in that respect.
Sallyfifth@reddit
It's so strange to me when I hear things like that, because in my traveling days all the Aussies I met were open, gregarious, and fun-loving. It was partly being "away" for an extended time period, I suppose. And I can't really say whether I was the one who started the conversations, lol.
JadziaEzri81@reddit
Honestly, I googled tall poppy syndrome and I still don't quite understand it...
LifeApprehensive2818@reddit
My understanding, if it helps, is that some people over-apply the label "showoff" to the point of invalidating legitimate accomplishment, much like some people over-apply "emotional" to invalidate legitimate arguments. They get jealous if someone stands out, and will work consciously or unconsciously to undermine that person in order to restore their own comfort.
Curmudgy@reddit
I don't understand how that relates to just starting conversations with strangers.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
I think it’s more that talking to strangers feels a bit outside the norm for us.
Since we’re so used to not wanting to stand out, going out of our way to talk to others can feel uncomfortable or unnatural, and that ties into tall poppy syndrome as well.
It kind of becomes a loop. Standing out feels like a bad thing, and talking to strangers is outside the norm, so it makes you stand out and feel unusual. Because of that, people avoid it, which just reinforces the norm even more.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
I think it’s more that talking to strangers feels a bit outside the norm for us.
Going out of your way to talk to others makes you stand out, and when standing out can attract negative attention, people learn to avoid it.
So staying lowkey just becomes ingrained. It’s not that people are unfriendly, it’s just not really the default way we interact.
LifeApprehensive2818@reddit
I'm fuzzy on that too. Best guess, it's the fear that if you discuss something positive about yourself, as people do making small talk, you'll trigger tall poppy syndrome and get cut down over it. If this is what happens, I can see how it would teach someone to treat strangers as potential threats, rather than friends they haven't met yet.
Slow_Savings4489@reddit
Being able to migrate internally and reinvent yourself in any climate or socioeconomic setting is pretty amazing.
Took a Chinese friend of mine years to get residency in Beijing. Foreign concept to me; if I want to move to a new state, no law or power can stop me. It is relatively painless, too, in comparison to international migration.
The_lady_is_trouble@reddit
American who doesn’t live in America here. Just want to point out a lot of other countries have free internal movement. A Londoner could move to Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland (and large parts of the commonwealth) with very little issue.
The local permissions thing is pretty rare.
Particular-System324@reddit
Not sure which parts of the Commonwealth they can move to without work permits but even better is the fact that an Irishman can move to England or Scotland or Greece or Finland (to name a few) with very little issue.
Downtown_Skill@reddit
Right but where the U.S. is different is you can move 2,000 miles away and still be in the same country with a similar culture.
You can move from London to Italy or something but it's harder to fully integrate into a new space like that without learning the local language.
You generally don't HAVE to learn a new language moving across a continent in the U.S. (although it would be very beneficial to learn Spanish if you're in the southwest for example)
However, the original comment implies that ots easy to reinvent yourself in the U.S. but I think you'll find that sentiment only in a select group in the U.S.
Social mobility isn't terrible in the U.S. but it's definitely not as high as some other European countries.
OhioTry@reddit
It’s easier to change social classes in Sweden, but your ex in Östersund is only 1 dray’s drive or train ride away from bugging you in Malmö.
glowshroom12@reddit
Doesn’t the issue come from moving to other territories outside of that. Like I don’t think a Brit can easily move to the British Virgin Islands I don’t think.
An American can easily move and live in Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands and such.
Particular-System324@reddit
Oh I was responding to the person who said it's easy for a Brit to move to large parts of the Commonwealth. I don't think it is. They need a visa / work permit of some sort to move to, say, India or Canada or Australia. I wasn't even thinking of places like the (British) Virgin Islands lol
bigheadsociety@reddit
As a brit I do understand it though. London to Scotland can be done in a day trip. A long and tiring day trip, but still possible. Its also a massive cultural and living shift, because Scotland is incredibly cold.
America is just so much bigger that you can reinvent everything in your life, truly be days away from everything you've known, and still be comfortable with weather you enjoy.
Rokmonkey_@reddit
I think the other part of op,s statement was that it's also completely different climate, different virtually, economically etc.
Formal_Economist7342@reddit
Meh you underplaying the amount of work it takes. But sure point stands the legal/dmv stuff is very manageable if you have the resources set aside for a move.
Aprils-Fool@reddit
I’ve moved from Florida to Connecticut to Washington (state), then back to Connecticut, then Florida. It was easy.
GoldfishDude@reddit
I moved 4 states away and the "only thing it took" was a 30 minute DMV trip to get my license and car registration done
WAR_T0RN1226@reddit
Where I'm at, there's a ubiquitous experience for people moving from out of state to be still driving with your previous state license and plate for at least a year. Because the DMV appointments are booked out 3-6 months and then when you do get in, there's a 50% chance the person there catches you on some extremely nitpicky technicality on one of your documents and makes you restart the process.
No_Water_5997@reddit
Where I live now you can make an appointment for the DMV or just walk in. Either way the wait is likely to be 30 minutes or less. I forgot my marriage certificate for my real ID and just went home, got it, and came back. I was in and out in about 15 minutes.
gobblegobblechumps@reddit
Omg i just renewed my license and upgraded to RealID and i got sassed so bad by the lady at the window for bringing "too many unconventional documents". And that i had way more than 6 points of id, and "less is more in this case, sir" --- no it isn't!!!!
ParryLimeade@reddit
I’ve moved to new states 2 times. It’s super easy
Short-Percentage-140@reddit
Yep just did that, moved 2000 miles away, it’s great.
No_Water_5997@reddit
Same. Only it was 1,000 miles away and on the same coast just opposite ends and a totally different culture.
Imaginary_Ladder_917@reddit
The biggest issue is getting a new drivers license, which was pretty easy, although I did study the materials a bit because little things were different from California to Illinois, like the distance to park from a curb.
blootereddragon@reddit
Nothing about the DMV (for that new license) is painless!!
But otherwise, yes indeed. On the other hand, it's so easy to travel between Schengen countries if you live in one
Ov_Fire@reddit
You can move freely within EU & EEE (30 countries), nothing stops you.
underground_cloud@reddit
My guns.
mentalbackflip@reddit
Clothes washer and dryers. The washers I’ve used in Europe are tiny, they take hours, ruin some of my fabrics, and then you have to line dry. It’s a whole production!
5hallowbutdeep@reddit
Road tripping during summer time and visiting national parks across the country.
Blue_Star_Child@reddit
I would miss the National Parks.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
You know lots of other countries have national parkland right? From Canada to Australia to Britain to Germany to numerous other countries?
Farro_is_Good@reddit
National parks in Europe are lovely, but they are absolutely not at all what we are talking about we are talking about parkland in North America. Gotta go all the way Carpathia to get some wild and quiet.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
I dont think so. New forest in England. The camaraderie in France, places in the Swiss alos, the dolomites and you didn't include Canada originally .
Farro_is_Good@reddit
New Forest is smaller than the state run game preserve that backs up to my house.
What do you mean “originally?” That was my first comment, bud.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Yeah you said the US dude.not north america.also. not sure what size has to do with it Are you routinely running through the whole length of Yosemite so you would miss it? Pleaee.
Farro_is_Good@reddit
Yeah you know what, there’s no point in trying explain scale and solitude to you. Happy trails, dude.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Oh poor baby can't feel solitude ina forest? You areridiculiys.also do not explain scale to a canadian..whose whole country you dismissed in talkingabout national parks.typical American
Hilarious
gobblegobblechumps@reddit
Are we all just ignoring that each park is ... different? Grand Canyon is 1/1 unique and you're not getting it anywhere else at all
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Well fine to say they would miss grand canyon. That's not what they said.
gobblegobblechumps@reddit
Or acadia or yellowstone or mt ranier or everglades or denali or haleakala or saguaro or big bend or voyagers or shenandoah
You're not getting all of that varied nature with domestic travel anywhere else
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Um.ypu are in Canada and somewild variety in Australia and newzealand and south africa actually but go off with your obnoxious jingoism
annaxdee@reddit
I’m sorry you can’t find deserts or places with palm trees in Canada. The US has those as well as having the states with the Rockies, the rainforests of the PNW, etc.
I’m not originally from the US but I am an avid park visitor and hiker. I’d say only the parks in certain countries in Asia can compete with the natural biodiversity that we have in the US.
Heck, Canada can’t even compete with the biodiversity of CA alone!
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Also you have obviously never been across Canada do get back to me after that. Sorry
Farro_is_Good@reddit
To be clear, I never said Canadian wilderness wasn’t impressive. I specifically said European parks are underwhelming to the North American traveler because most of it is fully developed and you’re just wandering through charming, pastoral views of other people’s farms. Canada is bad ass and I’ll never be on the record saying otherwise. Europe is also cool but it’s not the same as trekking undeveloped expanses.
annaxdee@reddit
THANK YOU. Dude thinks we’re insulting his home.
Canada is a gorgeous place, who said it isn’t?!
annaxdee@reddit
Lol been there for YEARS actually.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
That shows you that you know nothing Canada has extreme biodiversity. You know everything in the pnw is also in Bc right? And you have nothing like pur maritime provinces and pur arctic regions which go way beyond Alaska You are an idiot
annaxdee@reddit
Ahh yes I am an idiot for knowing Canada doesn’t also have warm desert or tropical climate lol.
And I’m well aware of what is in BC, been there plenty. Sounds like you are overdue for some global travel though!
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Also dummy the question was what would.you miss about the US that you woupd not beable to findanywhere elseand now youranswer is desert?I am not sure you even understood the question. Lol Give me a damn break.
annaxdee@reddit
Yes I do love the desert and miss it while I am away. Southwestern CO has gorgeous high deserts.
Show me some desert dunes at 8,000 feet at elevation in Canada (you can’t, because they only exist here and Kazakhstan.)
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Dude I havebeen far more places than you based on your comments. Mant of yourcomme is contradicting other comments..ypu seem drunk or stupid. Grow up
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Ypu are an idiot fpr thinking that is the be all and end all of biodiversity and for everything you say which is frankly childish and idiotic
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
You are such a jingoistic narrow-minded jerk for no reason and you aren't even American hilariously .gotta drink the kool-aid I guess
gobblegobblechumps@reddit
1) you don't know what jingoism is if you think talking about nature qualifies 2) show me where to get Arches landscape in New Zealand and Haleakala landscape in Canada -- no other single country in the world has the breadth of unique protected landscapes and biomes as US NPS.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Oh stfu. Show me anywhere else you can see whales and icebergs at the same time. And yes you can see southpacific la escapes off newzealand. You are so dumb you don't even see how obnoxious you ate nad can't look up words you do t know I am so sure you are spending vast amou ta of your time in Alaska and Hawaii Lol
RoryDragonsbane@reddit
I would have liked yo have seen Montana.
Akovsky87@reddit
It saddens me people did not get the reference
Puzzleheaded-Bee4698@reddit
Mr. Ambassador. You lost another submarine?
DoveOnTheInternet@reddit
...Red October?
Careless_Archer72@reddit
😁
dkatzzzm@reddit
Hunt for Red October 👍
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
One ping only vassily
luvchicago@reddit
They may be going away if you believe some of the stories from yesterday.
Outside_Orchid_1576@reddit
You shouldn’t.
FFF_in_WY@reddit
You absolutely should. To think that the current administration has any limits is bonkers.
ForestOranges@reddit
I much prefer flying if it’s gonna be more than 4-6 hours, so I’d survive without this one.
Creepy-Floor-1745@reddit
When I was a kid in Belgium, we would road trip to the Austrian alps, the beaches of Normandy, Stonehenge, Barcelona - and took the ferry to the Canary Islands with our car, Paris - Eiffel tower, and many other roadtripable adventures
Back then we needed passports to go between countries but you don’t need that anymore for the most part (probably EU to UK, I assume)
GenericUsername19892@reddit
I’m doing this now for a move!
Carlsbad cavern was fucking amazing yesterday and it was worth the blister I got lol. Everything not the main cavern was down due to flood damage though.
neutronstar_kilonova@reddit
There is so much romanticization of road tripping and of national parks in the country.
Outside_Orchid_1576@reddit
For good reason. They’re amazing.
Vandal_A@reddit
I'm okay with most the metric system and can do conversions in my head usually (liquid is hard sometimes), but Celsius is a shit way of telling temps outside of a laboratory setting.
ozaudi@reddit
Only because it's baked into your mindset. Celsius works without fault everywhere that's metric.
Vandal_A@reddit
No, it's because Celsius lacks specificity. 1 degree Celsius is the size of 1.8 in ferienheitt. 1.8 degrees difference is huge on the thermostat. I don't want that much play in my AC, nor do I want to have to use decimals when there's already a system that can accomplish more precise results with whole numbers
ozaudi@reddit
Do you seriously think thermostats only work in Fahrenheit ? The rest of the world says otherwise.
The increments shown on your Thermostat controller are an artefact of Manufacturers' decisions and not an inviolable law of physics.
It's sad you think Celsius is less "specific" or less precise than Fahrenheit and that it even matters. I guess it matters when you still rely on analogue devices to control things.
JohnnyOneLung@reddit
Why does using a system where water freezes at 32 and boils at 212 make more sense than 0 and 100?
GoldfishDude@reddit
Because the temperatures that humans live in (between 0 and 100 F) makes more sense than measuring it from -18c to 38c
I haven't had to think about the boiling point of water since chemistry class. It's not important to your daily life
JohnnyOneLung@reddit
What do you mean humans live between 0-100f ?
GoldfishDude@reddit
The vast majority of climates that humans live in range from roughly 0°f as a low and 100° as a high.
MediumStrange@reddit
Because the boiling point of water doesn't really have any relavancy to me. The freezing is better at least. But the coldest it gets in most places is about 0 and the hottest is around 100, farenheit is a better scale for humans, obviously not for science though.
Kitchen-Nectarine179@reddit
Why does using a system where ethanol freezes at -114 and boils at 78.2 make more sense?
Ov_Fire@reddit
Or sulfuric acid with 283.5 and 610 Kelvins
IndWrist2@reddit
Right, but your privileging integer convenience, which is pretty arbitrary. How granular do you actually perceive temperature? Can you actually tell the difference between 77f and 75f?
DontTouchTheWalrus@reddit
100% a degree or two makes a huge difference. I keep my house at 70F. If it gets to 72 it is stifling and if it gets to 68 my girlfriend is breaking out the fuzzy socks
GinX-@reddit
2 degrees killed the dinosaurs.
Vandal_A@reddit
No joke, I just turned my AC on this afternoon bc it felt like the house was warming up in the afternoon sun. It was 71 inside and I turned the AC to 70. ...And I'm much more accustomed to being out in the elements than most people, so it's not a matter of me always being in stable conditions 24/7/365. It's just once you're accustomed to measuring it more finely you like that better.
IndWrist2@reddit
You’re not measuring it more finely, though. You just don’t like decimals when you’re measuring temperature. That’s not a granularity problem with Celsius, that’s an arbitrary preference for whole numbers.
Vandal_A@reddit
People only use decimal points in normal or casual usage when the base measurement has failed to be precise enough on its own. Setting a thermostat for a house something-point-something degrees just means your base units are too big and had to be subdivided to make them more usable (that's IF the manufacturer gave you the ability to change it by less than a degree at a time, or the system is built well enough to handle the smaller difference). In real life that means extra print in newspaper forecasts, extra typing for digital conversations, extra space space and lettering on signs, extra programming for thermostats ...all of which raise cost and time on a level which has always led to people not bothering to write/type/say/program, etc. Yes, C can be made as specific as F by forcing it to be, but it'll inherently lend itself to less specificity in daily usage.
IndWrist2@reddit
A system has failed if it relies on decimalization in common usage? That’s not even coherent. Money, cooking measurements, fuel prices, weight, distances, all use decimals in every day use. Is the mile broken? The dollar? The gallon? The cup? The oz? The teaspoon?
You’re making an arbitrary user interface argument, not an actual argument about the merits of metric versus imperial temperatures. Using Celsius does not add costs to anything. How do you think the rest of the world operates?
Vandal_A@reddit
You're young, aren't you?
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Most AC units here adjust by 1°C at a time, and it’s simply not a problem in practice. People don’t feel the need for smaller increments, we’re used to it and it works fine.
Weather apps like Apple Weather don’t even show decimals, and no one really has an issue with it, so I doubt it’s a problem.
If it actually mattered, it would’ve been fixed by now. I guess it really just comes down to what you’re used to.
a_duck_in_past_life@reddit
I think what we're saying is once you get used to F, there's no way we'd choose to switch to C. If you're already used to C, then I guess you do you. But it you switched to F and got used to it, you'd probably not want to go back to C
IndWrist2@reddit
What? Can’t articulate a coherent position so default to pushing back on me as a person and assume I must be young and inexperienced?
a_duck_in_past_life@reddit
Yes. And people argue over it in the household sometimes. Lower than 72 is just too cold for me. 73 or higher is for like when the weather is cool but not too cool. Higher than 75 is diabolical and old people love it. Some people can sleep unless it's set to 69.
MS_me_@reddit
Yes! I live in Las Vegas and regularly set the thermostat at 77 in summer for comfortable AC. Set it at 75 it's too cold and I need a sweater.
blumieplume@reddit
You’re so lucky 75 is too cold for u!! Where I live it’s too expensive to keep the house warm enough in the winter and it gets into the mid to high 50s inside sometimes. I basically just bury myself in warm clothes and blankets and shiver if I need to get up to pee or eat or go to work. Winter sucks.
blumieplume@reddit
I can. Especially in winter. I’m not rich enough to warm my house enough in the winter so when it’s even 59°f in the house vs 60, I notice a very major difference. Warm weather not so much cause I enjoy being warm. But 1° colder can make a huge difference.
Right_Asparagus6345@reddit
77 and 75 makes a huge difference man idk what u talking about
Hooligan8403@reddit
I can tell when my wife has moved the thermostat from 78 to 76.
Apprehensive_Battle2@reddit
Very much so, it is quite common for roommates or family members to have a long standing argument over a 1-2 degree change in the thermostat at home.
-Major-Arcana-@reddit
My AC is set to 21.5 usually, it’s pretty unproblematic to use half a degree if you want to.
The fun thing with the metric system is 21.5 degrees is also 215 deci-degrees. So you can have a measurement that’s 18 times more precise that Fahrenheit if you like.
No-Perspective872@reddit
But much of the world is not using AC
Sovereign2142@reddit
Electronic thermostats go up by half degrees all across Europe (you can even switch many to Fahrenheit if you want).
Adept_Carpet@reddit
Fahrenheit is much better for air temperature.
Across most of the earth the temperature is between 0 and 100, anything above or below is quite extreme. Having the human body be quite close to 100 is a convenient landmark.
You hardly ever use the temperatures between 40 and 99 in Celsius. In my day to day life I'm never interested in anything that's three quarters of the way to boiling water.
It's wasted space, and the result is that too many of the common day to day temperatures are jammed into that 0-40 range.
Fahrenheit is pragmatic.
retroman73@reddit
Nah, celsius is pretty easy. I'm American but I've traveled enough to get the idea. 21 is comfortable room temp. 26 or 27 starts getting pretty warm, you want a T-shirt and shorts. If it gets to 30 that's hot, time to head to the swimming pool or beach. 35 or above is brutal.
16 or 17 degress and sunny is a nice spring day, so-called "sweater weather". Below that, you want a light coat. 10 or below and you NEED a fairly warm coat of some sort. Water freezes at 0. If the temp is negative you know it's pretty cold outside and you need to dress for winter tempteratures. Gets to -10 and it's misearably cold, need a parka, hat, and gloves.
Now for cooking...I don't have those memorized, have to use a converter chart which is attached to my fridge.
szayl@reddit
I used to think the same thing, but by centering things about 20°C it makes sense.
Dreadful_Spiller@reddit
I just think of it as that I am comfortable between 18° and 28°. 🤷♂️ Beyond that I need heat or a fan.
rnoyfb@reddit
But this is completely inaccurate, though. If you’re working outside, -30°C is an emergency, -20°C is dangerously cold, -10°C is really cold. 0°C is a little cold, 5°C is chilly, 10-15°C is about the perfect temperature range when working outside and 20°C is uncomfortably warm if you’re working outside in it. You need to start paying attention to warning signs of heat injuries close to about 25°C and 30°C is about when everyone will need to take extra breaks from working in the heat. About 35°C is when they need to be almost as long as working time. 50°C feels like you’re standing in front of an open oven in every direction. In the middle, 5°C differences become way more meaningful than at the ends of your range, which doesn’t cover a lot of places people live.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Exactly..pretty easy to use
Quirky-Invite7664@reddit
Thanks! This is helpful
FrostyVariation9798@reddit
THANK YOU for writing what I have been thinking for decades. Centigrade / Celsius is a shit way of telling temperatures for humans. We shouldn't have to have a decimal point to be able to tell what the temperature is.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
We don’t really use decimals with Celsius day to day, only in more scientific settings! So it also feels simple to us. I get what you mean about Fahrenheit having more precision though. Maybe it’s just a difference in what we’re used to!
SomebodysGotToSayIt@reddit
You're missing the point. You can feel the difference between 20C and 20.5C. In the U.S., you can set a thermostat to 68, or if you want it just a little warmer, you can set it to 69. Elsewhere, you jump from 20 to 21, which would be like having thermostat that skips numbers, like 66 - 68 - 70.
A one degree change in centigrade is a lot.
Incineroarerer@reddit
My thermostat is in Celsius and allows me to adjust by half a degree. Sounds like a hardware issue, not a unit of measurement issue
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
I get what you’re saying, but in practice most people who use Celsius don’t notice that difference.
Adjusting by 1 degree works fine and feels normal, and if it were actually an issue we’d already be using decimals, which we’re not.
8696David@reddit
All I can say is, if I could only adjust my thermostat by nearly 2°F every click, I would feel like I did not have enough precision to get it to the temperature I want.
arcteryx17@reddit
First time I have seen the discussion about the true difference between the two temp measurements. C or F doesn't bother me but the precision of F just makes more sense to me as well. But I believe F should be 0 for freezing. Then I can tell people it was -60 during our winters.
8696David@reddit
The other side of this is that °F works incredibly well as a “percent hot” metric. Freezing isn’t that cold compared to human perception. To me, “it’s in the negatives” should mean “it is FAR TOO GODDAMN COLD OUT,” not just that it’s starting to get chilly. 0 = exceptionally cold, 100 = exceptionally hot. Works great.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Lol. How damn specific do you need your temperatires?
8696David@reddit
…..about 1°F works incredibly well
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Seems completely useless
8696David@reddit
And yet it’s not!
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
And yet it is,obviously to the whole rest of the world
8696David@reddit
I benefit from it daily. Enjoy your lower precision I guess. I’ll be over here setting my thermostat exactly where I want it. 1°F too hot is not good enough.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Wtf is wrong with you mentally? Ypu can't adjust a dial to a temp? How do you think the rest of us do it? Are you mentally impaired asanation?
Wakinyan07@reddit
Just move to North Dakota, and you can tell people you have -60 winters!
Seriously though, I agree with you. I like the wider range of temperatures in Fahrenheit. It doesn't make sense to me that in Celsius, the range of temperatures that people actually experience in their environments is such a narrow band of numbers. Fahrenheit gives you more room for specificity around temperature.
Maybe Celsius works better in a lab environments than the real world?
nglyarch@reddit
You would feel like it, sure, but you would be confidently wrong nonetheless.
8696David@reddit
Lmao what? I use the distinctions between single degrees Fahrenheit literally every single day. I can EASILY tell you without looking whether it’s at 68 or 69. You have no idea what you’re talking about
nglyarch@reddit
Lmao you literally don't. Stop lying.
8696David@reddit
How could you possibly know that, stop embarrassing yourself
nglyarch@reddit
The same way I know you are not 10 feet tall of weigh 10 pounds. There is a range of what regular humans can and cannot do/be. People study these things extensively.
8696David@reddit
Laughing at you :)
nglyarch@reddit
You are incorrect. Most people cannot reliably feel a difference of 0.5 degC.
The Just Noticeable Difference (JND) at 95% confidence is around 1 degC.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10695924/
Cthulwutang@reddit
my car temps are two degree jumps. and i agree with you that the gaps are too big.
at home it’s weird how i can be comfortable at 65 but brrr 64 (during the winter).
blumieplume@reddit
Actually this is the one thing I have trouble with. Kilometers make more sense than miles cause I used to run track and I can picture 100 meters much better than I can a quarter mile or something but i have no idea how tall I am other than in feet and inches and idk how much I weigh in kilograms and whenever I talk to my friends in Europe about the weather I have to google Fahrenheit to Celsius. None of it makes sense. They train us from a young age to understand systems of measurement that no one else in the world uses and it’s very hard to relearn basic skills like that
Waltz8@reddit
Spoiler alert: no one says "Centigrade" anymore.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
We dont use decimals. What are you talking about. O os freezing. 100 is boiling. Lol
molten_dragon@reddit
Celsius is the temperature according to water.
Fahrenheit is the temperature according to people.
Kelvin is the temperature according to atoms.
Torkin@reddit
Great description
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
No we, really the rest of the world use Celsius for people too..i.e. freezing is below zero. 20 is room temp. I am not sure how specific you need the temps between 0 and 212 or whatever.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Hahaha I honestly don’t understand Fahrenheit at all!
I try to explain Celsius to my American friend like this: - Your body temperature is about 37°C, so anything close to that already feels hot - Once it goes above that, it’s basically unbearable - The closer you get to 0°C, the colder it is - And around 15–20°C is that perfect, comfortable range (at least for me!)
Hooligan8403@reddit
Farenheit is pretty straightforward. The only odd numbers to remember are below:
-32⁰ degrees for freezing -212⁰ for boiling. -Human normal temp is 98.6⁰. -100⁰ is going to be pretty hot for most people. My desert city gets to 120⁰ usually a few times a year but average for summer is 110⁰-115⁰. Most people consider 75⁰-85⁰ comfortable. I keep my house at 78⁰. I'd put it higher but then everyone would complain. Your high for being comfortable for example was 68. Guessing you are somewhere more north?
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Omg thank you for explaining that, it actually helped me wrap my head around it!
I think I’ll remember it now.
I like 68°F/20C because it’s usually hot where I’m from (Western Australia, kind of like the LA of America where it’s always sunny), so I really enjoy when it cools down!
randomname5478@reddit
82 F is 28 C also.
WARitter@reddit
Are you from Perth? I remember when it seemed like a lot of people on Internet forums were from Perth which made sense because of the whole ‘closer to Jakarta than Sydney’ thing.
Hooligan8403@reddit
My wife is more 72⁰f/22.22⁰c but she didn't grow up in the desert. Its been windy but nice around the high 70's the last week. Was in the 90's and hit 100⁰ two weeks or so ago. This is more our normal spring temp.
MediumStrange@reddit
Most places in temperate areas will go from about 0f at the coldest to 100f at the hottest. It's like a sliding scale of hot hot you feel. If it's colder than 0f you probably shouldn't be outside for very long, same for if it's over 100f.
GreenBeanTM@reddit
How hot do you feel on a scale of 0-100, that’s how Fahrenheit works.
arcteryx17@reddit
Someone told me C is the temp that water reacts to and F is what the Human body reacts to. The more I think about it the more it makes sense.
dox1842@reddit
0c is freezes water and 100c boils water. 98c makes a good shot of espresso.
ludachris32@reddit
Puttng Fahrenheit into a scale from 0 to 100 while dividing it into increments of 5 and 10 makes it make way more sense.
Blue_Star_Child@reddit
Fahrenheit is how hot or cold the air is relative to the human body. So around 32 degrees is when we freeze.
Celsius was made for lab and mathematical measurements ect.
Vandal_A@reddit
The one complaint I understand from others about ferienheitt is that freezing probably should have been the zero point. However, having grown up in the snow belt having that range between zero and freezing (32) sorta bakes in some healthy measuring points for what to expect outside. Also, I just find the size of 1°c to be too broad for daily use.
Ironically, my other complaint with the metric system is basically the opposite: kilometers are too short to be the predominant "large" measure of distance for running, cycling, driving, etc, but that really is just a cultural thing and in general meters are one of the areas where the Metric Systems superiority shines
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
No it is supereasy.0 is freezing. 20 is room temp. 37 is body temp. What about that is so difficult for your brain? Lol
MediumStrange@reddit
I mean yeah you can obviously figure something out, but farenheit is better at a human scale for many places. Where I live the colder it gets in a year is about 0f and the hottest is 100f, that's more relevant to me than the boiling point of water, which I don't really give a shit about. It also provides more detail in the range that people actually live in, instead of having to use decimal points.
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
No it isn't Nobody thi know is except dumb Americans. O os freezing. 20 os room temp. So hard for you i guess
dgrigg1980@reddit
TRUTH!!!! Having visited many countries that use the metric system, kilometers, kilos, grams are all intuitive after about a week of immersion. Temps are fucking baloney. Like 38 is okay but 40 is deadly? wtf? ( probably a bad analogy but I don’t care, Celsius sucks)
jlt6666@reddit
Liquid is one of the easier ones imo. 1 liter is just about 1 quart. (So 4 liters is about a gallon, and .5 liters is a pint, ok 16.9 oz)
Farro_is_Good@reddit
I doubt most Americans have a handy mental grasp of how much a quart is. Most of us rarely handle things in quarts and not at all in childhood, when those mental measurements are programmed.
Annjenette@reddit
I lived in Canada for 5 years, I feel that. Weirdly though they measure pool temperature in Fahrenheit, I was so confused. 😂
Former_Tangerine_735@reddit
Nobody in Canada refers to temp in Fahrenheit
Vegetable-Ingenuity2@reddit
Something like that is a mix of tradition and the fact the Canadian market for a product like pool thermometers would be so much smaller. It's much the same for cooking - no one wants to throw out grandma's cookbook, or not be able to understand most of the recipes online, so we stubbornly cling to imperial measurements when baking.
Vandal_A@reddit
The Brits are like that a lot too. They mix standard and metric. Seems to be less common amongst the younger generations, but they definitely have some fossil measurements that are holding on in specific places (like "stone" for a person's weight)
sirenroses@reddit
I always assumed stone and kilo were synonymous from my very limited exposure to English media (it’s really just Skins UK)
Vandal_A@reddit
Nah, stone is one of those weird, old measurements. I think it's like 14lbs, or about 6 kilos.
There's a lot of funny, usually now-lost ones like hogs head (volume approximate to, well, it's namesake), or koku (the amount of rice it was believed by Japanese authorities a person needed to survive a year). Some hang around in very specific ways -like a lot of the terms used around alcohol (shot, keg, proof, etc). There are some that are still around but have lost their measurement meaning in favor of common English usage, which happens to all sorts of words in English (for example a lot of common insults were measurements of people's IQ ranges in the early days of psychology)
Cooly, if you ever see an old cookbook or recipe card those can be bursting with measurements that were actually very specific (a pinch, a knob, the aforementioned hogshead), etc, or sometimes measurements which are still used but have changed
endual@reddit
It takes no time to get used to.
Team503@reddit
I’ve been living in Europe for several years now and I always get downvoted to hell for saying this.
M477M4NN@reddit
How people smile at each other. My understanding is that people in many other countries (at least in Europe) would think you are weird or creepy for just smiling at them or waving or saying hi. Thats just such a natural thing in America. If I’m passing someone on my street, at the park, etc. I’ll often just give a simple smile and nod and they will return it. The fact that people not only don’t do that, but will think you are weird for doing so, in other countries just makes it seem like that are just so miserable.
riza1994_@reddit
We value personal comfort a ton. Drinks are always cold, AC or heat is always on, we regularly use humidifiers/dehumidifiers, etc. Going to other countries and seeing people suffer when they could fully just not is crazy.
Also even though we are individualistic to a fault, that means people rarely care if you do whatever you want (in major cities at least).
doyathinkasaurus@reddit
I totally get your point in the height of summer (no way to install any kind of AC in our bedroom, and at 90°F we slept in the kitchen because it was cooler in the basement!), and it's a massive issue no disagreement.
But equally during the 4 months I lived in the US, heavily iced drinks and aggressive AC were two things that I actively disliked - so 'suffering' is definitely subjective. I would have to remember to ask for drinks with less ice, because it irked me that i couldn't just sip my soda at my own pace, I had to drink it before any ice started to melt and turn it into coke tinged water. And glorious tropical Florida sunshine outside, but stepping inside and needing to wear a sweater and getting frosty feet in sandals, I really found it miserable being so cold all the time! Different strokes for different folks and all that
One_Significance5354@reddit
Well the fact I had to Google what tall poppy syndrome was....I guess that.
Disastrous_Fault_511@reddit
The majority of people I've chatted to while on European vacations were Australians. Now I'm racking my brain trying to remember which one of us started the conversations. My guess is it was us.
I am with the person who said window screens.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
let me know if you remember haha, I’m curious!
I feel like a lot of Australians don’t agree we have tall poppy syndrome, but i think it’s sadly and deeply ingrained in us
Gyn-o-wine-o@reddit
I may get downvoted for this
The bootstraps. This is a place where you truly can pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
It sucks for those who do not have the social or financial capital to do so.
But if you have the socia or financial capital, luck, and/ or grit, you can really make a killing.
My story would have ended differently in many countries. I didn’t do well in my courses in undergrad so I retook them at a later date. Then I applied for medical school. Got in!
14 years later and I can pinch myself. I feel lucky.
I once talked to a girl from Denmark or Switzerland. She was amazed that I had a second chance. She told me that because she didn’t do well on her courses earlier on, she could never be a physician ( her goal).
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Wow I didn’t realise it was like that in parts of Europe, that’s actually really interesting.
I think having those second chances is such a big part of the appeal. At the same time though, being in a position where you even have the resources or support to take that path is its own kind of privilege, so it’s a bit of both.
Gyn-o-wine-o@reddit
I didn’t recognize that either. I had just got into medical school. I was laying in Dolores Park in San Francisco. Having a great time knowing that I would be a doctor. She came with a group of friends. She had been doing some program in San Francisco. She was a social worker back in her home country. She asked me how my day was. I told her the truth. She started to cry. That’s when she told me her story. She did not do well in hef courses early on. She was tracked. She could never be a doctor in her home country. I did very well in high school. I struggled in a very large undergrad in 400 person classes. I left undergrad after graduating with a mediocre GPA and went to a program specifically for people trying to get into medical school. I excelled in classrooms with no more than 15 people. I got a private tutor to help me with my MCAT. I invested a lot and myself. I got into medical school.
I think of her all the time. I will never be a fan of tracking. I think that they track in her country because they pay for everyone to go into medical school. They pay for people school loans. So they wanna make sure the best of the brightest give the opportunity. Early on in my career, I was not the best or the brightest.
LifeApprehensive2818@reddit
Oh yes. A number of countries in Europe require students to start specializing while still in their mid teens, and only really offer one chance to qualify for a specialization.
I have a family member who works in higher education. His impression is that the system creates a small number incredibly focused specialists, but is a bit exclusive, and doesn't really prepare people to think across disciplines.
The US system of late /very open specialisation doesn't build quite the same level of expertise, but it's much more forgiving, and prepares people to think a bit more flexibly.
TaHo_@reddit
I’m a first gen American. Both my parents are immigrants from separate countries that met in the US. Literally, they were dirt poor and starving, and now they’re very successful. They tell anyone that will listen how this kind of climb, not just financially but socially, would not be possible in either country.
It’s not easy, and it’s gotten harder more recently, but it’s still light years easier here than anywhere else. I think especially socially. In a lot of European countries you may get rich, but you’re still “new money”. In the US, old money is so limited, that unless you are in certain circles, nobody cares.
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
Oscar Wilde wrote about that during his tour in the US. How class status didn’t matter and the hustle culture was celebrated.
Goal is to make as much cash as humanly possible? Go for it dog! Ambition is celebrated.
That fact was a mind blow for him.
Layla5069@reddit
You're right though. There's almost always some workaround, or some paperwork you need.
I was guilty of thinking I can't do certain things because of the circumstances I was born in, but I'm past that now. I just needed to suck it up and deal with it.
I went from being born in a rural rainforest without indoor plumbing, to owning a business and working on my medical school application. At some point I worked in satellites. Nothing slowed me down outside of my own laziness and confusion over the college system. You want it? Go get it.
It's wild talking to my foreign friends, so many seem stuck in situations similar to what they were born in.
MobileOrdinary6827@reddit
Forget ice. I want free refills. It's crazy. I live in the UK now and I find myself slowly sipping my drink so I don't finish it before my meal comes or during then by the end I'll still have drink leftover. I've conditioned myself to fear not having enough to drink when out at restaurants.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
The US gets free refills???
LinuxLinus@reddit
Yes. You know why? Soda is incredibly cheap. Someone decided to basically give it away, and then everyone had to.
This is one of those thing where I wonder why someone hasn’t tried it abroad. For a brief period they’d be pulling people in for little cost.
LadySiren@reddit
Indeed. Took my BFF out to lunch yesterday and went through three glasses of sweet tea. Having to pay for refills irritates me, LOL.
AsOctoberFalls@reddit
Tap water is always free. Most restaurants have free refills of pop (soda) and sometimes lemonade.
Super expensive restaurants may be different, but I wouldn’t know - I never patronize them.
MobileOrdinary6827@reddit
Yeah. Majority of restaurants will let you have unlimited fountain soda. You go eat out in the UK and you'll get one can of 330ml Coke for £3.39. If you want more you have to pay.
claudiatiedemann@reddit
Being able to easily return things to a store. I have lived in countries where you pretty much can’t return things, even if it’s unopened, you still have the receipt, and you just bought it yesterday.
AVDLatex@reddit
Taylor Ham.
GlitterFallWar@reddit
When I studied abroad in Europe in 2005, I was super annoyed that so many basic shops weren't open past 5pm. I lost my brush, and I had to take off of my internship early to get a new one.
ipromiseyouitstaken@reddit
I grew up with line dried clothes. I absolutely despise them! I hate crunchy towels and jeans!
MamaMidgePidge@reddit
My family would line dry clothes but also put them in the dryer for 5-10 minutes to soften them up, at the end.
iamasecretthrowaway@reddit
I would also miss being able to just throw something in the dryer for a few min to get the wrinkles out.
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
The sun also beats the living crap out of your clothes and fades them so fast.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
That crunchy feeling can actually be from using too much detergent though!
It can leave residue that makes things stiff, especially towels and jeans.
Bulocoo@reddit
Cultural and bio diversity.
From beaches to swamps to mountains to plains. Without a passport you can live and move to pretty much any biosphere you want.
Among that same geography you can live with Cajuns, cowboys, latin americans, lumberjacks and fishermen.
Mighty rivers, massive lakes and endless ocean.
I've lived a lot of places. Many would be fine but upon retirement I decided to stay. I can spend the rest of my life exploring the US and never run out of things to see and places to go.
InvestigatorRemote58@reddit
Affordable and ample public hunting and fishing access. I could be wrong, but it seems like most other countries have a lot of hoops and costs for residents to hunt. Here, it's relatively cheap and public access in states is common.
Danibear285@reddit
Freedom of speech
AuntieFara@reddit
Oh, we get judged for it! One can more or less get away with it on the East and West Coasts, but as an expat New Yorker, I can tell you the middle of the country is very, very different.
Potential_Fishing942@reddit
Biggest one is general size of living space. My wife and I have a 4 bedroom 2.5 b house with decent lawn, finished basement, garage and driveway.
We are fortunate to be able to afford it due to remote work and living in a medium cost of living town, it I'm pretty sure you'd have to be exceptionally wealthy in most European countries to come even close to that mush space. That's just not homes are built in most of the world.
Ihateregistering6@reddit
Pointing out the obvious fact that I understand this isn't universal everywhere (since the usual Trolls are out).
-Lack of ice in drinks.
-Having to pay to use the bathroom.
-Having to pay for refills, condiments, bread, etc.
-Lack of air conditioning. It's absolutely wild to me that AC is still rare in much of western Europe, especially considering that something like 70,000 people died due to a heat wave in 2003.
OlivePresent9466@reddit
air conditioning, window screens, drive thrus (i know they exist everywhere but they’re so so much more prevalent in the US… it’s just too convenient), bags at the grocery store that you don’t have to pay for
OutsideBones86@reddit
Traveling with my dad, who has Parkinson's, in Europe really opened my eyes to how amazing the ADA is.
fdsa54@reddit
Gaint cup of drip coffee.
Annjenette@reddit
KFC mashed potatoes. In Canada they only have fries!
PuppySnuggleTime@reddit
Well, KFC mashed potatoes are absolute garbage. They’re literally made from flakes out of a box. You deserve real mashed potatoes, honey.
Bcatfan08@reddit
I always though people were just getting the mashed potatoes for the gravy.
iamasecretthrowaway@reddit
We are.
Vandal_A@reddit
Have you tried mashing the fries?
jlt6666@reddit
Then you still don't have any gravy
secular_contraband@reddit
And in a country that is famous for putting gravy on fries. 😂
Vandal_A@reddit
Lol fair
hotpossum@reddit
Do they at least have gravy?
Annjenette@reddit
Yes because poutine.
RavenRead@reddit
Yes it’s so disappointing to see KFC reduced to sandwich, fries, and a drink. Foreigners have no idea what KFC really is.
Prestigious-Comb4280@reddit
In Ecuador and Barbados too. The chicken is better though.
poppyvue@reddit
Top sheets
heat_down_to_fifty@reddit
Cheddar cheese
Waltz8@reddit
The wide variety of things to do. I've been to 30 countries and they all have something great about them. But the US just has too many things to pick from. There's places within the US that most Americans have never heard of or don't think about often, that would be among the top 3 touristy things to do if they were located in other countries.
weeklyRedditReader@reddit
Like what?
RoosterzRevenge@reddit
The 2nd Amendment
Prestigious-Fan3122@reddit
The way we celebrate Halloween in the US! Also, air-conditioning and ICE! I strongly prefer ice water over tapwater, and I do enjoy ice in my cold beverages.
Large dash capacity clothes washers and dryers!
Average_Potato42@reddit
The mountains. I live in the Appalachians, it's home. I've lived in other US states and other mountains but the Appalachians are home.
Also, I'd be the weird American... When I actually find myself in a new country I want to find the locals, not the tourists and see what's up, learn about the place. I'll find someone to chat with.
SabreLee61@reddit
A big house and property
para_diddle@reddit
Same. So thankful.
SabreLee61@reddit
Sup, neighbor?!
para_diddle@reddit
Not much, another amazing spring day in the Garden State 😎
Donald_J_Duck65@reddit
We have low poppy syndrome in the States.
ConditionHoliday2844@reddit
American thighs
Donald_J_Duck65@reddit
Creature comforts.
Such_Impression_2327@reddit
I’m from nyc so ik this might not be a nation wide thing, but honestly being able to find pretty good food and any type of food you want. I also love how nobody really gives a fuck about what you do as long as you mind your own business and you’re not harming anyone. I find that in some other countries people have a staring issue even though they don’t mean harm. I would also say personal space and it’s a general common thing among Americans to not stand so close to people
para_diddle@reddit
My husband and I were enjoying a Mediterranean meal in our town last week, and talked about how we have countless amazing world cuisine choices within 5 miles or so from our house.
It's truly a melting pot in many areas, and we get to benefit from wonderful culinary talents and flavors brought from other countries. These restaurants thrive.
No_Cartographer5955@reddit
I could never give up air conditioning, free public restrooms at most businesses, free refills on most drinks, and the fact that we have access to a lot of different foods from around the world. I would assume Australia has all of that too, but I don’t know. It’s kind of funny about the socializing thing though, because as someone who struggles socially here, I can only imagine how much worse off I might be somewhere else. That said, I can assure you that trying to talk to random people can definitely come off as weird here too, trust me, haha!
Okuri-Inu@reddit
Smiling at strangers. I’m a very smiley person, and I have heard that in some other countries smiling at random people will make them think you are crazy or weird. I can respect that that is just a cultural difference, but I think I’d have a hard time changing that.
Robot_Alchemist@reddit
A/c
CartoonistLive1738@reddit
Although not perfect the ability for those with disabilities to move around and the right to do so with ADA. Been to several countries and had major surgery in South Korea on my leg due to a disabilty where I had to use crutches for 6 months (lived there for 2 years). The inability to go to vast majority of places because the cities even newer areas not in any form accommodating to those with limited mobility.
Simply could not even get into or very difficult to enter eating areas or small doctors offices because of way streets were designed. Worked and lived in different countries as well and different jobs in the US. The attempt to accommodate those with physical, mental, invisible and others disabilities I can't think of I haven't personally experienced abroad. Especially when it comes to designing or updating areas to allow access for all. Also it"s been decades since I've been to certain countries so I'm assuming there has been changes for the better in this area.
Extra_Shirt5843@reddit
Yes...we were just in London and remarking how difficult it would be to get around if you weren't able bodied. So many stairs! I had to go up two flights of winding stairs for a toilet in a pub. And maybe there was an accessible toilet hiding somewhere, but it certainly wasn't mentioned.
gaokeai@reddit
Stores open for long hours! And open every day. For example, in Germany stores are closed on Sunday. If you need something from the grocery store real quick, too bad you have to wait until Monday.
Here my grocery store is open 6am until midnight every day! Used to be 24/7 before COVID. But still if it's 9pm and I'm like "ahh shit I need to get some tampons" I can run to the store and do it, any day of the week.
Also Mexican food. Jesus christ I don't think I could cope with not having access to good Mexican food. Pretty much anywhere in the country you can find at least decent Mexican food, although it's obviously better closer to the border.
No-Mouse4800@reddit
Nothing. I moved from the US to Germany about 17 years ago, and miss nothing about the US, except for maybe Wendy's.
ajababyhairs@reddit
I used to love Wendy’s back in the day. I would go all the time. Now I don’t even remember the last time I had it. Wendy’s has changed in the last 17 years. When was the last time you had it?
No-Mouse4800@reddit
I was in Denver in 2022 and NY in 2023. I still found Wendy's to be quite qood.
dgrigg1980@reddit
Even though it’s eroded every single day, the 2nd amendment. I’m one of those “nut jobs”. Who believes that it is what makes America America.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
I was actually talking about this with my American friend the other day, he feels the same way.
I get that it’s a really big part of American identity, but I don’t think I fully understand it yet. I’d be curious to hear how you’d explain it more clearly!
dgrigg1980@reddit
People constantly shit on gun violence in America, but when you consider that we are the third most populous country and have BY FAR the most firearms, the amount of gun violence is not what people want you to think. Consider Mexico where private gun ownership is technically illegal yet they have massive amounts of gun violence. American gun owners just want the right to defend their family and property. A lot of us also are sportsmen who put meat on the table with our firearms. But the point of the 2nd amendment is about the security of a free and liberal society. From threats both foreign and domestic.
And guns are fucking cool and fun
LifeApprehensive2818@reddit
Thanks for having the courage to share this. Reddit isn't always the most forgiving community for this topic. You did a really good job of laying out your perspective.
dgrigg1980@reddit
Thanks I’m sure soon I’ll be in the pillory
never_cake@reddit
Shame the gun owners haven’t risen up against the domestic threat you’re all currently living with.
Syringmineae@reddit
They stood up to the government when they were putting people in concentration camps in the 40s. Wait, they didn't?
Well, at least they fought the government when Black people were regularly disenfranchised and attacked before the Civil Rights movement. Oh, they didn't do that.
When the government spies on its citizens? No?
People who love talking about how the Second Amendment "defends liberty" would only use the Second Amendment to protect the Second Amendment.
dgrigg1980@reddit
Well too many don’t recognize that and for my part it’s not crossed the point of no return yet. Hi FBI agent!! Hi ATF ! I lost everything in a boating incident and I gave my dog to my non gun owning in laws .
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Ohh that’s really interesting to hear your perspective.
I was actually thinking about this because around the same time as the Bondi attack here, there was a school shooting in the U.S., and the difference in public response stood out to me.
In Australia, our gun laws are very strict and seem to work for us, so it can be a bit hard to fully understand the role guns play in everyday life in the U.S.
But hearing you explain it, I can see how it’s tied to things like protection, lifestyle, and just how society is set up.
I think from here it can sometimes feel more normalised in the U.S., whereas here it becomes a really big national moment, but that’s probably because our environments are so different.
And I do get what you mean, in a place where more people have guns, I’d probably feel less safe not having one too. It just seems like one of those things that really depends on the context you grow up in.
dgrigg1980@reddit
Yeah and there are 365 million Americans versus the 29? Million Australians. We also own around 400 million guns, half of the world’s private gun ownership. So unfortunately we are a little callous to gun violence. But in perspective. . . And the majority of murders by firearms are with cheap, illegal handguns by gangs in inner cities like Chicago and Baltimore.
ExtremelyRetired@reddit
I’m an American currently living in Egypt, and I have to say I don’t miss much. Good Mexican food comes to mind, but pretty much everything else is here, plus a lot we don’t get back there.
thekrawdiddy@reddit
I would definitely miss good Mexican food, but Middle Eastern food kind of rules.
Last_Ad4258@reddit
Definitely certain foods. Mexican, southern barbecue…
ManateeFlamingo@reddit
Probably air conditioning. Seems like outside of the US, it is not really a standard thing.
If you ever visit the southern US, talking to strangers is part of daily life here. I definitely would stick out like a sore thumb if I visited a place where this is not the norm. It would take some getting used to for sure.
Puzzleheaded-Bee4698@reddit
Minnesota is a great place to live. 100 million mosquitoes can't be wrong.
UltraShadowArbiter@reddit
The ability to legally defend myself and my property.
zamy19@reddit
I lived abroad and really missed certain comfort foods. The Cheerios and peanut butter abroad just didn’t taste the same! Also… our over the counter pain and cold medicine is WAY stronger. I had my parents shipping me medicine to get through tough physical days.
GurProfessional9534@reddit
A/C in most houses, and grocery stores being open 24/7.
jolietconvict@reddit
Where do you have grocery stores that are still open 24/7? That seems to have been eliminated in most of the US after COVID.
GurProfessional9534@reddit
Really? That’s lame.
There’s a Safeway next to me that is open 24 hrs/day, 7 days/wk. Just double-checked.
HoselRockit@reddit
The size of our grocery stores. One large aisle dedicated just to cereal
BrilliantDishevelled@reddit
I mean, I can do without everything
But I like ice water.
Quirky-Bar4236@reddit
It may sound shallow but my firearms.
I shoot weekly and it's a big hobby for me.
galoluscus@reddit
My Rights, firearms and the lawful ability to provide for our own protection.
DPax_23@reddit
Nothing. 4 years til I'm out of here.
OkAstronaut1562@reddit
I'm from the southern US, and I've lived in 3 countries outside the states at this point. Here's what I tend to miss:
Biscuits and gravy
The independence that you mentioned. I really noticed that when I lived in South Africa, how we (US) really do have a "be yourself" attitude that I didn't feel there. I kept noticing all the friend groups/families were extremely codependent on each other and if you're unique and not exactly like them....good luck lol.
I don't always agree with how women are treated in the US - but I have to admit it's better than many places I've been. So I would refuse to ever live in an overly misogynist place again, and I refuse to give up that freedom and respect.
amainerinthearmpit@reddit
Having bathrooms accessible and free and all over the place.
myboyfriendsback777@reddit
Ice in drinks. If you’re lucky enough to find a place that actually has ice, they still only give you a couple of sad, small cubes.
Most_Ad1891@reddit
My dryer. You can say what you want but trying to dry towels and jeans on racks is horrible. You can pry my dryer from my cold, dead hands.
TrixieLurker@reddit
The first amendment.
Poroto_Verde@reddit
Good sweet iced tea in restaurants.
LRWR@reddit
I've lived in Europe and the UK for 25 years, and the things I miss the most are mixer taps and electrical outlets in the bathroom.
Ov_Fire@reddit
https://www.wickes.co.uk/Products/Bathrooms/Bathroom-Taps/All-Bathroom-Taps/c/1075012
install one, amurikans are like children, you have to finger point to them.
Slith_81@reddit
Air conditioning
I have trouble breathing hot air, and I like to breathe.
Ov_Fire@reddit
Then buy and install one FFS https://www.climamarket.eu/en/multi-split
SummitJunkie7@reddit
What is tall poppy syndrome?
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Tall poppy syndrome is basically the idea that when someone stands out or achieves a lot, they get cut down for it. The “tallest poppies” get judged, gossiped about, or seen as showing off, so people often feel like they have to downplay their success or not stand out too much.
It kind of creates this culture where people mind their own business and don’t want to be “too much,” which has its pros, but also cons.
Don’t get me wrong, people are still nice here, but there can be this underlying pressure to stay low-key!
Decsolst@reddit
I see the cons, but what are the pros?
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
You get a place like Japan. Which is tall poppy syndrome on steroids.
Good or bad depends on your view point.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Perfect description
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
“Humbleness” & “equality” ig?…
caffeineaddict03@reddit
If I ever moved to another country that got hot in the summer, air conditioning. I was blessed with a high metabolism. The price I pay for it is that I'm always freakin hot and really only feel comfortable in the cooler months. People look at me like I'm crazy that I prefer winter over summer. It's just too damn hot for me
mikesbabymomma81@reddit
I feel like it's always the most random things you miss. My friend went to live with his family in Yemen, he's 2nd generation immigrant, and his biggest complaint was they don't have catsup readily available. I didn't even see him eat catsup really.
I lived in Germany for 5 years, and I miss the fish sandwiches and the smell of the roasted nuts. I didn't even eat fish back then.
Double_Swordfish_668@reddit
I would miss barbecue and relatively inexpensive bourbon.
WARitter@reddit
My spouses pitch is to open a BBQ restaurant in northern Wales.
sharpshooter999@reddit
Public land for hunting/fishing/camping, but of course the Republicans are trying to piss that away too
WARitter@reddit
Yeah public lands are a great thing about the US (and Canada).
RhinoPillMan@reddit
Firearms. It’s a huge hobby for me and I’m so used to having a pistol on me 24/7.
arcteryx17@reddit
After reading a lot of comments I must say these are some of the most productive conversations I have ever seen on reddit between Americans and non Americans. It's refreshing to not see negative BS.
It's refreshing
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
It’s honestly refreshing to see too. America really is a great country with so many good people.
It’s just unfortunate that the wrong people being in power right now can overshadow that, but conversations like this remind you there’s still so much positivity and potential there!
rh681@reddit
Well, I don't think my guns would be allowed in Australia.
SukunasStan@reddit
Being able to just walk around without being stared down and not being tutted at for not knowing Spanish (No, this was not Spain). Foreigners tend to assume I'm Hispanic and then get very pompous when I don't speak Spanish. IDK why. Like if I was Hispanic wouldn't not knowing it mean my parents neglected me? Are abused kids looked down on in Europe or something? England was the only European country that was normal about it.
Quix66@reddit
I don’t know. I’ve lived abroad in Asia and the UK, the most recent being almost 20 years ago.
I managed to get along fine.
I guess I could say my dryer but my second apartment in Beijing, a new build, had a dryer.
rolyfuckingdiscopoly@reddit
Eh I have lived plenty of places, and I am happy to be back in the US.
I think what I REALLY couldn’t give up is legal rights for myself in a marriage or in regard to property, kids, inheritance, etc. I’ve had short-term stays in places where those things were functionally irrelevant, but I wouldn’t live there- live there.
ZaphodG@reddit
I don’t know about tall poppies but we’ve got heroin addiction. Heroin comes from poppies. j/k
My sister moved to Canada after college and became a Canadian citizen in Vancouver. I took a hard look at it and opted out. I’d have a hard time giving up the much higher standard of living. Higher pay, significantly lower taxes. If you have the job skills where you’re in the top-5% to top-10%, it’s a really good deal.
LifeApprehensive2818@reddit
That's "high poppy syndrome". Easy to get the two confused /jk.
Communal-Lipstick@reddit
Optimism. People here are so encouraging if you start a new venture and if you fail along the way. We are taught from birth that failure is just a stepping stone to success.
ButterscotchOdd8257@reddit
And now I know what "tall poppy syndrome" is after googling it. We get that too, but I guess not as much.
Short-Percentage-140@reddit
It’s hard to pick one thing, I travel a lot and im always ready to be back in the USA by the end of the trip. It’s hard to explain to non Americans how damn convenient life is in America.
Mission_Phrase_5133@reddit
I think the level of convenience depends a lot on where in the US you live. I'm in Vermont and it takes an Amazon Prime delivery about 5 days to get to me. I live in the state capitol and delivery options for food are one Indian place that does door dash and two pizza places. If you don't have a car getting from A to B is extremely difficult and time consuming. There aren't enough doctors or childcare providers, so getting those services involves long wait timed and high costs.
Don't get me wrong, I like it here. But compared to most countries in Asia, daily life here is really inconvenient. I can't really think of any aspects of my life that are more convenient than most of western Europe, either.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
That’s so true, the convenience in the U.S. is insane!
I think a big part of that is the system behind it, like night workers keeping things running 24/7.
We don’t really have that here as much, so things aren’t open as late. Some places are, but it’s pretty rare. It would definitely be convenient, but I guess we don’t have that same up early, sleep late culture to support it.
Ahlq802@reddit
Bagels
Charming_Bobcat_2613@reddit
Air conditioning, central heat, free public restrooms, our national parks system, in home washer/dryer, the food, the attitudes, the individualism.
So many of you are miserable and unhappy for no reason. American optimism really is a thing and I’d choose that any day over the pessimism that comes with living almost anywhere else.
SteadfastEnd@reddit
Strong national defense. I like knowing that no matter, there is zero risk any enemy nation will ever conquer me.
Farro_is_Good@reddit
You sure about that? Our enemies have done a pretty stellar job with the psyop.
MrTeeWrecks@reddit
The chances are never zero.
Ayuuun321@reddit
We definitely get judged for being ourselves. I think Americans just tend to have more confidence. We’re sort of forced to, especially at work. It’s like a personality competition. I don’t really fit into it, so it feels a bit ostracizing. I wish standing out wasn’t such a big part of American culture.
Something I would miss is the land itself and the animals. I love it here so much. I feel so connected to where I live. I would miss it a lot. I live in the Adirondack mountains area in NY. NY gets a lot of flack for the city, but it’s so beautiful (and huge), and has so much nature.
Hopeful_Pizza_2762@reddit
Females can walk alone wherever they want to go.
Annethraxxx@reddit
That certainly isn’t everywhere in the US…
Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit
Though it's more places than a lot of Americans think. Our perception of the danger of crime is really warped.
I get told all the time that I shouldn't walk alone in my neighborhood as a woman, but I'm also a criminologist (and until last year had a job that involved literally analyzing crime rates in various neighborhoods around my city, including my own), and I can say with confident that they're full of shit. I think it's mostly based on the fact that there are a lot of visibly homeless people, but nowadays that's the population I work with so I'm on a first-name basis with most of them, lol.
Annethraxxx@reddit
Where have you been exactly in the world that provides you this perspective? I’ve lived in east Asia, Central Asia, Turkey, multiple places in Europe and traveled to countless countries of varying economic statuses, yet the US has some of the scariest places I’ve traveled as a female on my own.
Outside_Orchid_1576@reddit
New York, Atlanta, Miami, Los Angeles, San Diego, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc. The only place my wife has felt in danger is outside the country. I agree with her. Parts of Mexico especially.
Annethraxxx@reddit
You clearly only visited the tourist parts of Philadelphia. 😂
cautioner86@reddit
This, and Chicago, and honestly probably all major cities but those 2 are the ones I have the most experience with and you cannot walk alone everywhere, even men probably shouldn’t in many cases.
Last_Ad4258@reddit
The data does not agree. There is almost no neighborhood in the US where you are actually unsafe., especially during the day, but I have no idea how that compares to foreign countries.
cautioner86@reddit
Data’s fine and all, but as a woman who grew up in Philadelphia, I can tell you lived experience says otherwise
Last_Ad4258@reddit
Violent crime in the us is less than 1/2 what is was 20 years ago. Your lived experience many not be today’s reality
cautioner86@reddit
Fair enough, but for women safety isn’t just about violence. It’s also about sexual predation and being made to feel the threat of it. I hope women don’t have to go through that anymore… but I doubt it, and wouldn’t recommend trying to test the waters. Again, data is great, but it doesn’t mean the risk is zero. NYC was very safe 20 years ago and now people are getting pushed in front of trains.
Last_Ad4258@reddit
I think when you don’t understand the culture things can appear scarier than they are. With reason too since you probably won’t pick up on subtle clues that could impact your safety. I’ve lived in American cities and feel I understand them well enough to feel safe in most/all neighbourhoods. I don’t have the same confidence in other countries.
Last_Ad4258@reddit
This! I honestly think it’s a campaign to keep women scared and submissive. The most dangerous place for a woman in any city is her home. The chance of a stranger attacking you is extremely but you have a 1 in 3 chance of being violently attacked by your partner in your lifetime.
PacNWnudist@reddit
They can, but it might not be a good idea.
Unable_Tumbleweed364@reddit
I'm an Aussie in the US!
You're right. I love that people can celebrate their wins here.
Also my HVAC and central heating and cooling. I'm cozier here in my very cold winter than back in Brisbane.
I have more than that but that's the first thing I thought of lol.
draftysundress@reddit
Legal weed.
Effective_Move_693@reddit
The food. You can get world class food from any corner of the planet here. It’s fully possible to have a different cuisine for every meal of the month in some parts of the country.
Yeah I can travel to Italy and enjoy Italian food for a week or two, but I don’t think I can handle eating Italian every day for a lifetime.
007-Blond@reddit
soda
Fappy_as_a_Clam@reddit
I'll defend America on most things, but soda and junk food in general is much better in other countries.
They mostly don't use HFCS, which is all the difference.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
What’s your favourite soda that other countries don’t have?
007-Blond@reddit
idk if other countries dont have it, but my goto is sunkist. My main thing is I dont want the lower sugar content.
Famous_Tumbleweed346@reddit
I was going to say "nothing," but reflecting on the times I lived short term in Mexico and Peru, I remember there were some things I really missed. Not being able to drink water from the tap was the biggest inconvenience, but that's hardly a deal breaker.
The biggest thing that I really felt, even months after arrival, was the lack of diversity compared to the states, of people, food and music. Certainly, there are places in the US that are similarly homogenous (rural towns), but go to any city and you're good. In the other places I lived, if you saw people who looked different, they were always tourists. In the States, they are part of the fabric.
So I'd definitely miss that. But all the same, I'd be happy to emigrate if there was employment and a path to citizenship. I mean, depending on the climate and political system, but there are plenty places better than here for those things.
RichardAboutTown@reddit
I think you're overestimating the level of judgment people get for being themselves, but we make up for it by not giving a crap what people think.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
I see what you mean.
I don’t think tall poppy syndrome is only an Australian thing, there’s definitely some level of judgment everywhere.
It just feels like in the U.S. there’s a bit more emphasis on individualism and creativity, so people might be more comfortable standing out despite that, and I think that’s really cool.
RichardAboutTown@reddit
Yeah, we definitely have a lot of freedom to stand out. It wouldn't surprise me if Americans were also less judgy than other places. I expect it's a mix of those two things.
Foxxz@reddit
Reading these answers shows who hasn’t even lived outside their own country. America is a shithole I’m trying not to go back to
North-Astronomer-800@reddit
I would seriously consider emigrating from the USA right now due to the political situation except for one thing - public lands. The freedom to ramble over vast areas - the western desert in the spring and the mountains in summer, are a huge part of my life. We just pick up and go, camp where we choose, surrounded by sublime beauty, I don't know where this is possible anywhere else. And of course this is all threatened now, the thieves that run this country have plans to steal it all away. It infuriates me and troubles me to the depths of my soul. Much will be lost of my nation's character if this freedom is stolen from us.
mchaz7@reddit
The ability to criticize our government.
IPreferDiamonds@reddit
Air Conditioning
Erdos_Helia@reddit
I love my country. I know it's ghetto and full of homeless people but I don't know. I still genuinely don't want to leave this place. Even though I see nice places in Europe or Japan I just like being in America. I can't explain it.
It's home. I feel like if I had a billion dollars I'd use it to improve my neighborhood and community. I wouldn't use it to leave for somewhere else.
I want my home to improve, I don't want to leave it.
If the world were to end I want to go down with the ship.
ReadySteady_54321@reddit
The world won’t end, and people like you who acknowledge our faults but want to help their community are why we are still in the fight
Huge_Monk8722@reddit
To many to list. Bill of rights is a god start.
CraftFamiliar5243@reddit
My family lives in this country. I could maybe move to Canada but I couldn't live with my family much farther away than that
Ok_Arachnid1089@reddit
Nothing. There is literally nothing that I would miss
sirenroses@reddit
I genuinely love American culture, just hate its politics. I love the amenities that are standardized here (dishwasher, washer, dryer, AC, ice everywhere, screens on windows, etc etc etc), I love how friendly people are, I love how vast and beautiful the land is. I don’t like our government and wish things were different on that front but overall it’s a pretty good place to be.
ReadySteady_54321@reddit
Hope for better days - and vote accordingly
fatstankyshit@reddit
Ice cubes 🧊 (fuck ice though)
ReadySteady_54321@reddit
Fuck ice
Lonely-Attitude1304@reddit
Aussie here. Why would you really want to live in the US. Everyone has guns, it's violent you have maga wierdos and you really have no freedom of speech. You all admire wealthy people that crap all over you. Sick existence. We truly live free here. Sometimes the grass is greener on the other side.
cjdstreet@reddit
Haha ok bot
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Thanks, I didn’t even know I was one!
cjdstreet@reddit
Well why have you made up such utter nonsense?
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
I haven’t been making anything up. I’m describing something a lot of people experience, including me, from my perspective. You don’t have to agree.
Strange_Specific655@reddit
That’s a great question. One thing I could never give up is the ability to grow. The ability to start a business for insanely cheap LLC is 300 bucks, is super nice. We also have the ability to optimise our finances as we pay less taxes then other places (state dependent), maybe the sense of total autonomy?
Strange_Specific655@reddit
I also believe there are cheaper packages but they don’t grant protection the same way
never_cake@reddit
In the uk a limited company is £12 I think. At least it was when I did it a few years ago.
Strange_Specific655@reddit
I’m not sure how it is across the lake but there are about 5 trillion tax loopholes which is why it’s such a good idea to do it here, our civil justice system gets bent over by it with the amount of write offs and liabilities that people evade in doing so
Traditional_Can_3983@reddit
One trip to Europe taught me two things.
Water is so abundant here that we make it effectively free.
Free bathrooms are something that I take for granted.
Danswer888@reddit
Peanut butter
verdant_hippie@reddit
I have hearing loss and need people to talk louder. I go to another country and I struggle to hear them. I always wonder how their hard of hearing citizens in their country manage. 😭
cautioner86@reddit
See, I want us to shush and that’s coming from a loud talker 😂 but this is actually a good perspective!
Miss_Might@reddit
Americans are very judgy. It's just not the same as yours I guess.
Meowmeowmeow31@reddit
I love how diverse it is here, even outside of major cities, and how that diversity is part of our national identity. I live in a small city and still hear over a dozen languages in a week. Not that many countries worldwide are like that, and I don’t think I could be away from it long term.
marioskywalker@reddit
Higher standard of living, including the greater salaries after taxes than most other developed nations.
Cheap_Coffee@reddit
Ice cold water served at restaurants.
dgillz@reddit
2 things. The first is owning a gun. I cannot believe how limited this is in many places outside of the USA.
Also I could never operate in a place where I had to give extended notice to quit a job. I love the American "at-will" employment system and cannot understand why people are against it. If I have had it with my boss or the company, I will leave in 30 seconds.
dox1842@reddit
I like going to the gun range. I don't conceal carry and don't see a need to but I really like target shooting. Seems like most other countries guns are illegal or highly regulated.
Aggravating_Peach_94@reddit
Having a hard time realizing we can't afford to retire by our kids.
Erroneous_Willow@reddit
The only thing I can think of is the comfort of living where you have your whole life. Otherwise, there aren't a lot of reasons to live in the US; our economy is terrible unless you're absurdly rich, public benefits are getting cut, and our government seems to be on a path of self-destruction.
blumieplume@reddit
My family and dogs. I would need them to come with me. Other than that I’m good off American everything. I don’t even ever see the sunset cause I’m always working so as beautiful as California is, I’m always rotting away at my desk on the computer never getting sunlight. I would much prefer to work less than 55 hours a week and still afford organic food and a safe place to live.
Radiant_Music3698@reddit
Confidence the meat won't give me parasites.
Clean_Broccoli810@reddit
I would definitely not thrive well in any kind of uptight reserved cultures. Not that there's anything wrong with them. They're just not for me. I'm far too lax and casual for that. When I was a teenager I wanted to move to Japan. Not anymore! Lmao.
bonvoyage_brotha@reddit
Sink disposal
forestinpark@reddit
As an immigrant living in US gor 36 years, I guess people not caring what others do. Thats about it.
kitesurfr@reddit
Shoe box size burritos.
jackfaire@reddit
Proximity to my family. That's about it.
VastAd6069@reddit
yeah that’s actually one of the underrated things about the US
people are generally more open to talking to strangers, being expressive and just putting themselves out there without overthinking how it looks. it makes everyday interactions feel easier and less guarded.
FunSeesaw7089@reddit (OP)
Definitely the biggest thing I envy about America ;’) other than the food!!
Ok-Energy-9785@reddit
Getting my haircut
iciclefites@reddit
being able to ride a horse on the highway
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