South African army deployed to Cape Town and other areas to help fight crime

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Ancient_Sound_5347@reddit

The army is being deployed to the gang ridden slums not middle class neighbourhoods which doesn't have the problem.

The soldiers are there only as a force multiplier and will basically observe and report while the police go in and deal with situation.

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Slubbe@reddit

So essentially a failed state

And this isn’t a quip or jibe

But general civilian crime exceeding the ability of police. Now needing military intervention to manage domestic issues signifies a breakdown in order

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Ancient_Sound_5347@reddit

Last time I checked there are soldiers walking around in Washington DC.

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Except the USA has armed forces patrolling the streets in search of "undesirables", executing and arresting people with no justification at all and no punishment in sight. Unless you think ICE is just "picking up garbage" (depending on how xenophobe/racist someone can be, they may think that), they are an armed force deployed against its people.

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HammurabiWithoutEye@reddit

Except that's not what the comment was referring to. The national guard in DC is just a political move and they've done nothing but play trash men.

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olderthanbefore@reddit

Incredibly, the number of police deployed in Khayelisha, Philippi, Nyanga and Gugulethu has decreased in the last 10 years. The cynics among us believe that the police service, which is administered by the national government and not the provincial government, is not really motivated to reduce crime here in Cape Town.

The crime stats are the only stick which the largest political party has, to beat the Western Cape province, which is run by the 2nd largest political party.

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happybaby00@reddit

black townships are less dangerous than the coloured ones like mannenburg, you know this.

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Future-Excuse6167@reddit

In the US colored is just an antiquated word for Black. What does it mean in SA?

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happybaby00@reddit

multi-generational mixed people of black [khoi or bantu] and white.

In south africa, coloured people are not considered black because they did not exist nor did they have a nation prior to colonisation. Culturally they are afrikaaners but are not accepted as such.

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olderthanbefore@reddit

No, I must call you out on a couple of the details.

' Afrikaans-speaking' is most definitely not equivalent to being culturally Afrikaner. And brown people are probably split 50-50 on having English as the first language rather than Afrikaans too, and most of us are fully bilingual.

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happybaby00@reddit

And brown people are probably split 50-50 on having English as the first language rather than Afrikaans too, and most of us are fully bilingual.

First time I've seen a coloured call himself brown haha

Also that's surprising, I thought outside of durban, afrikaans was the first language

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Future-Excuse6167@reddit

So there's an uncanny valley for color in SA, where you lose the benefits or being fully native black but don't gain any of the benefits of being white?

That's wild, but colorism rules the roost in the rest of the world where whiter is always more advantageous to darker.

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Slubbe@reddit

I work with a lot of South African doctors from all parts of SA

Every single one has a personal story of being robbed, having their car stolen, being held up, being shot at, having family murdered (hence why they moved)

It seems it doesn’t matter your societal class, if you live SA you’ll be a victim of violent crime and nothing gets done

Good for us, SA doctors bring a huge wealth of trauma and emergency medicine skills we don’t see much in Ireland, but when we do they genuinely are the bosses and save lives

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alkbch@reddit

My dad had an acquaintance who lived in South Africa who one day was walking on the sidewalk while a car pulled over and criminals robbed him, and took his wallet and valuable things. They got back in the car and started driving away, changed their mind, drove back towards him, shot him and left.

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EmotionalTowel1@reddit

My friend who is living in SA right now for work told me he feels this is a failed state as far as security goes. My friends company has to pay for and provide private security simply for them to work and live there.