Anyone else frustrated at finally being able to afford a fast car only for your area to become so popular all you do now is sit in traffic?
Posted by BondGoldBond007@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 319 comments
Been driving 30 years this year and I finally was able to justify getting a fast car from a financial standpoint. where I live has been so popular post COVID with transplants that all I do is sit in bumper to bumper traffic and it's a challenge to even get up to the speed limit on most roads. It took me 42 minutes today to go 8 miles.
I'm frustrated because I may as well drive a prius at this point. I feel like I missed my window of opportunity to have a fast car and enjoy it. It's not what I expected and driving a manual is stop and go kinda sucks after a while.
diptenkrom@reddit
If your goal is to have fun on the daily commute, then you can try a longer different route. Or set yourself some time to go out away from town for some spirited driving every once in a while. I live near Charlotte, and when I'm in the area of work, it is very much like that, but the closer I get to home, the more it opens up. This is the area I like to go motorcycle riding in. (I daily a Jetta TDI, so it ain't fast)
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Yeah. I already go a specific way to us an on ramp with hopes no one is in front of me when I get on. I've even pulled on the shoulder to let traffic by just so I can rip through a few gears.
If I don't leave the house by 6:40am traffic sucks.
valris_vt@reddit
You have a car, so you can simply go to the less used back roads that aren't far away from your area. Your car gets to stretch its legs, and you also get nice views.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Less used back roads I am doubling the speed limit in seconds. They are all 35-40 mph near me. I caught myself doing 90 in a 40 the other day without really much of a struggle.
Trip7919777440@reddit
Our rural area has been overrun by new subdivisions. Tobacco farms are being sold off by the younger generations. To reduce traffic accidents, just about every cross road is a 4 way stop so you can’t even just cruise for more than a minute without stopping. The traffic gets thicker every month. With it, more litter. And did I mention accidents? 🤦🏻♂️ I’ve given up trying to go out for a spirited Sunday morning drive. Sucks..
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Sounds familiar!
Red_Phoenix_69@reddit
I recently bought an older Lamborghini, I enjoy the car and am lucky to live in an area where I can still get out on some backroads which go along a river within a few minutes. I am not worried about going fast I would rather go a little slower and just enjoy cruising going through the gears. In hindsight, I could have saved a lot of money in insurance and maintenance cost and satisfied my need for speed without getting a ticket. I could easily fly to a number of cities which have a racetrack that rents exotic cars. 3 laps on the Las Vegas Speedway for a couple hundred dollars, getting some driver training with a variety of cars to try out in a safe environment. Enjoy the car while you can I think the insurance companies will force everyone to get some form of self driving car sooner than we think.
jbrantiii@reddit
This is something I've contemplated often. What good is a super are if you can't get over second gear at legal speeds? I get fasion and creating a facade so others are envious. It that as far as it goes?
saml01@reddit
Yep. Been there. Bought a loaded 17 GT/CS in 2019. Then covid happened. When i thought i would drive it to work, work stayed remote. So I thought id drive it for errands, cruise nights and trips. Errands were in constant traffic, it wasnt great for trips and cruise nights always lead to pedestrians jumping in front of the car. Last parts a joke. So i sold it. It sucks but i definitely remember the roads being a lot less congested before covid and less assholes. Now i just hate driving.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Sounds similar to my current situation.
saml01@reddit
I loved the car and it was a lot of fun but having a car like that in a congested city was not fun at all. Especially sitting in traffic with a manual.
UnwroteNote@reddit
You are allowed to drive the car for things other than commutes and errands.
MumpsyDaisy@reddit
Yeah I wake up early for my job so even on my days off I wake up super early. You gotta be careful about revving out your engine too loud in places, obviously, but early Sunday morning drives rock. If you like car spotting you'll quickly notice lots of people do it too because what traffic there is is a lot more interesting than the usual endless CUVs and working vehicles
Cool_Sweet3341@reddit
Yeah Drive East maybe leave just before sunrise or rush hour direction early hit traffic turn around so when you back track roads are clear and you scouted for Tennessee police forget the highway that cuts between both big cities between nashville and Memphis but l remember seeing a cop every mile getting coffee early on a cross country trip and the song walking in Memphis in my head the entire time I was there. Left at the crack of dawn got out of the city before rush hour was bad. Find a windy road Tennessee is full of them just stay in your lane. I would go towards the state parks application trail find a hwy on a map that looks like a hiking trail get up early and go. Max it out have fun and soon as the car payment is getting tire and the novelty wears off sell it get something comfy and buy a a Gen1 Miata put a V8 in it and track it weekend it. Sports cars suck for commutes hell stop and go with a stick shift isn't fun for anyone.
earlyiteration@reddit
Ppl don’t realize this lol
vetruviusdeshotacon@reddit
Manual in stop and go is completely fine. Way overblown how bad it is
lunarc@reddit
I drove manual cars only for 30 years, in LA traffic, long commutes, I didn’t mind it at all. In many ways, sitting in second gear the whole time just cruising father behind the car in front of not using the brakes is the best.
generalistinterests@reddit
That’s not stop and go if you can cruise in second gear. That’s a steady crawl.
lunarc@reddit
You make it steady by hanging back as much as possible!
generalistinterests@reddit
I try that but you can only reasonably do that so much. If it's short city blocks there's nothing you can do about that. Clearly you haven't experienced what we're talking about.
lunarc@reddit
I lived in LA for 7 years, trust me, I know
generalistinterests@reddit
No you don’t clearly
lunarc@reddit
LA, flat, you’re a special one
vetruviusdeshotacon@reddit
the trick is to not be 5 feet from the car in front of you. if you wait extra then slowly crawl up your average speed stays the same as other cars but you don't need to constantly be on and off th clutch
generalistinterests@reddit
That’s what I do but still it can be exact perfect bad recipe to make it suck ass.
SloeGin@reddit
Mostly by people that can’t drive manual and never have more than “that one time”.
My mom is in her early 60’s and still daily drives a manual without complaint.
lostfate2005@reddit
Depends where, manual in San Francisco is awful
gaius49@reddit
Been there, done that many times. Its not really an issue if you have the skill.
lostfate2005@reddit
lol at skill, I’m not saying it’s hard it’s just more work
vetruviusdeshotacon@reddit
My 87 year old grandma drives a 2004 subaru wrx in traffic or otherwise lmfao, if she can do it so can a 35 year old car guy
Shmokesshweed@reddit
That's gangster as fuck.
vetruviusdeshotacon@reddit
Yeah my grandpa bought it and after he died my grandma refuses to get a new car, pretty fire
-GenlyAI-@reddit
People have preferences. My weekend and track cars are manual. Fuck that shit on my DD.
DrZedex@reddit
Unfortunately my mother gave it up when her hip got too arthritic. But she was in her 60s by then. She still borrows my cars from time to time and has no trouble with them.
My wife though? Can't get her to even try for any amount of blood, love, nor money.
xrelaht@reddit
I have never owned a non-manual vehicle. I shift so automatically I can do other stuff in the middle of accelerating and hold stuff in my right hand without it being an issue.
That’s not the problem with manual in stop and go traffic. Constantly feathering the clutch is because I know how much it’s shortening the time before I’ll have to replace it.
vetruviusdeshotacon@reddit
I just wait for the car ahead to go 2 car lengths then slowly crawl up instead of going on and off in first
Mytzplk@reddit
If you have ADHD then it's really not that bad. I find myself dozing off less in traffic because it gives me an objective to focus on
SNRatio@reddit
It turns a game into a job. Especially if it is for half a mile going uphill one car length at a time. And you can't wait until there are three, four car lengths free ahead of you - the person next to you will take that slot. And you have no way to manually control the e-brake: you have to use the automated "hill assist" function, also affectionately known as "stall assist", each time you start.
vetruviusdeshotacon@reddit
Skill issue. You dont need the e brake or a hill holder, you just need your feet to be faster
Forum_Browser@reddit
I concur, it's a skill issue. I live in a place with steep hills and actual mountains. I've been daily driving exclusively cars and trucks (4, 6, 8 cylinders and even a rotary) with manual transmissions for well over a decade and I haven't had any trouble with hill starts since the first month of driving standard.
SNRatio@reddit
Nope. "stall assist" on the last few years of manual VWs engages automatically when you come to a stop on a slope while pressing the brake pedal, and disengages ~3 seconds after you release the brake pedal. It doesn't sense torque, RPM, or anything else, just your foot on the brake. And VW doesn't provide a way for you to disable it: it's always on. Older VWs had "Hill Hold" which 1, you could disable, and 2, actually worked pretty well.
The only other car I've driven that was difficult in hill starts was a '60s Triumph where neither the syncromesh nor the parking brake was working.
generalistinterests@reddit
But did you spend 15+ minutes going up hill in stop and go the whole time?
Forum_Browser@reddit
Are you really asking me if I've ever been stuck in traffic before? Did you forget to put the /s?
generalistinterests@reddit
Some places don’t have up hill stop and go traffic for 15+ minutes
SNRatio@reddit
Nope. It's when your feet are fast that you stall. "stall assist" engages when you come to a stop on a slope while pressing the brake pedal, and disengages ~3 seconds after you release the brake pedal. It doesn't sense torque, RPM, or anything else, just your foot on the brake.
VW hit it out of the park with that one.
FH3onPC@reddit
Such a downgrade from the MK7. The MK7 auto hold releases the second you touch the throttle.
generalistinterests@reddit
Still sucks regardless of if you can do it. No point. Just get an auto or have a second car.
If you’ve lived it you wouldn’t be saying any of this.
Astramael@reddit
Yep, agree. I’ve owned almost exclusively manual cars for my whole life. Driving in traffic isn’t something you even think about. Even stop and go up hills.
I can understand not wanting to, but it’s not hard.
generalistinterests@reddit
It really isn’t fine. Your idea of traffic must be 5 minutes of slowdown.
My old car had tall gearing and in an hour of stop and go traffic for my daily commute I wanted to kms. Automatic I’m a happy camper enjoying my comfy car with good sound system and when I want to go fast I can.
earlyiteration@reddit
Sure if it was a 10 min traffic but not a 90 mile full commute…
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
100% this.
xlb250@reddit
Compared to hands free driving it is an extremely tedious chore in stop and go traffic.
ahorrribledrummer@reddit
Agree. It's not relaxing but it's not a huge chore either
bro_chiiill@reddit
Had a similar experience after getting an F87 M2 comp. A few months into owning it, my company had an RTO mandate. It was a huge difference driving the car because I had to versus driving it whenever I wanted to. I never had to deal with 8am and 4pm traffic before the mandate. Unfortunately I sold it after only owning it 9 months because it didn't make sense daily driving it
IsAnUltracrepidarian@reddit
that is so tragic. Maybe there is some sort of a track near you to have a bit of fun on?
ScipioAfricanvs@reddit
Jealous of people with nearby tracks. Mine is 4 hours away.
bananaland420@reddit
Live a little bro. You are allowed to venture away from home. 4 hours is not a lot. I drive 2 hours on the regular. I drove 4 hours yesterday round trip just to eat breakfast with my dad and stop and fill out paperwork somewhere. I was back by noon.
ScipioAfricanvs@reddit
A 4 hour drive is not a lot. An 8 hour round trip for a track day is a lot - factor in track time, etc as well. It’s not really feasible unless you stay the night, and this track is in the middle of the desert with nothing around it - probably another hour back to the nearest hotel. It’s a huge amount of time, hassle and money. It’s not just driving 4 hours. Come on now.
HURCANADA@reddit
Getting downvoted about driving 4 hours in /r/cars, this place is full of spec sheet bench racers 💀
bananaland420@reddit
Lmao. Bunch of pussies would die on a road trip. I have done multiple drives over 20+ hours straight.
HURCANADA@reddit
That is nearby. Easily doable as a weekend trip. If you can't drive 4h to rip your car around a track I don't think you want it bad enough
gaius49@reddit
Driving 8 hours round trip to drive a few mile loop... really?
HURCANADA@reddit
I do it twice a month sometimes, and so does everybody else at the track
gaius49@reddit
Oof. If that's the best you can do for fun driving, I get it, but I'd be eyeing a move to anywhere with better access to fun roads pretty hard if I were in that situation.
HURCANADA@reddit
Driving 10/10 on the track is a completely different experience from canyon roads. I live in northern california so I do both regularly. They're not mutually exclusive concepts
gaius49@reddit
Track time is not something I find fun or appealing. The repetition, lack of scenery, hassle, and safety reqs (for instance, neither the Morgan nor the Cobra would be permitted on any sane track) make it un appealing to me. If it works for you though, that's great!
xrelaht@reddit
I live in the same city as OP: the closest place with track days is almost four hours from here.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
3 hours away. I took it to the drag strip a few weeks ago but that's not something I want to do on the regular.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Just take it to a road outside your area that isn't crowded
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Seriously, that's 30+ minutes out. My free time a week is just a few hours due to other commitments.
YalamMagic@reddit
30min away? That's your idea of inaccessible?
Lower_Kick268@reddit
That's not bad, a half hour drive to get to some back roads would be a dream for a lot of people.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Where you single at the time? I got a family and a bunch of other obligations as well so going for a 3+ hours cruise whenever I want is maybe a twice a year opportunity.
BrunoEye@reddit
If you're only able to get 3 hours to yourself twice a year then something is wrong in your life.
Quaiche@reddit
Seems like you have to fix your own life because from what you’re saying is that you’re not allowed to have your own personal time and hobbies… it’s not a way to live.
withsexyresults@reddit
Weekday trackday is the answer. Take PTO to go to track while kids are in school
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Then sell your car idk what to tell you, either take a drive to a fun road/track, move, or suffer in traffic. Seems like you don't want a solution you just wanna complain thh
CorrectCombination11@reddit
Sounds like you don't want to prioritize your driving enjoyment.
darkbro66@reddit
You're complaining about having to go 30 minutes to get out of traffic? F**** sake, maybe you don't actually want a fun car or enjoy driving
sarcasticorange@reddit
Welcome to life... time, money, or health... you need all 3 but usually only have 1 or 2.
Quaiche@reddit
Unless you live on a mountain pass or in the middle of nowhere you will never get cool roads under 30 minutes of drive.
It’s not bad, a nice drive is at least a few of hours if not an entire half day at minimum.
Shmokesshweed@reddit
If you want to enjoy a fast car, the place to do that is on a track or on roads that don't have a bunch of people around you...not the roads people use to go to work and school. Either way, the onus is on you.
TurkishSwag@reddit
That’s not true. You don’t have to be in felony territory to enjoy a fast car on the street. Even just being able to accelerate quickly to 60 with only half throttle on the highway is enjoyable to me compared to having to go WOT in something else. Being able to easily speed up and pass someone to merge is fun. Not to mention that if a car is built to do 160, being able to cruise very comfortably at 80 in free flowing traffic is enjoyable.
Even just driving around town normally to the store is way more fun in a fast car. You don’t have to drive like an asshole or floor it everywhere to have fun, but I know many would disagree lol
hi_af_rn@reddit
If everyone that ever wanted a fast car was only ever going to use it on a track, no one would make them.
TurkishSwag@reddit
That’s true, but I’m just saying you don’t need to use the full potential of the car to have fun.
hi_af_rn@reddit
Yes sorry — I agree with you. I meant to respond that to the OP
Ihate_reddit_app@reddit
Yep, so many good backcountry farm roads near me that you can see for miles and never have any other cars.
publicsausage@reddit
Then a deer or random rodent runs out.
jabba_the_nutttttt@reddit
Thats fine, much rather that than a person or car.
publicsausage@reddit
Of course but you're still dead for being dumb
Ihate_reddit_app@reddit
Deer are typically out at dawn and dusk. Go between those and you are typically fine. Also, rodents and even deer won't kill you in an accident.
publicsausage@reddit
You don't live in actual deer country lol they don't have hours. Friend almost totaled an 03 cobra splattering a family of raccoons
Ihate_reddit_app@reddit
I do live in deer country and have personally hit one deer and have been passenger a couple other times.
They certainly do have more active hours. Sure they can be out other times, but they're most active are dusk and dawn and also during rut season.
Hitting raccoons won't harm you at all. There's always a bunch of them in my area dead on the side of the roads. The only harm that will come is if you try to avoid them and swerve off the road.
publicsausage@reddit
Had one run into the side of my car at a stop sign on a gravel at 2am. Pull up, hesitate stop, BAM. WTF just happened? Dumb ass deer stumbles across the road and runs off.
Homie I was in the car, raccoons are not good for traction.
Fit_Equivalent3610@reddit
lol deer walking into cars is apparently surprisingly common, when it happened to my mom a few years ago she was like "I know this will sound crazy but..." and insurance adjuster was just like "nah this happens all the time, I believe you".
gaius49@reddit
I'm willing to take risks for myself, but not impose them on other people.
Designfanatic88@reddit
With so many big ol potholes that you’re bound to hit not being familiar with backroads.
bruh_the_person@reddit
Ok so then get familiar with them. What’s the issue?
XxNitr0xX@reddit
Still always that chance a cop is sitting back there waiting around a blind corner
bruh_the_person@reddit
Yeah well the only time you’re truly safe from cops is on backroads
FearGingy@reddit
Full of potholes.
BasedMikey@reddit
Living in FL this is basically the only solution to put my car into a proper turn. That or road trip to a place with decent roads
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Florida is the best place in the country to own a muscle car though, I will say that. Cruising with the top down on one of Florida's many good condition highways is awesome
BasedMikey@reddit
Oh most definitely. Lack of “good driving roads” is a small trade off for never being forced to put the car away for a few months a year. Will say the forced induction on my Elise definitely still makes it a bit more fun to drive on the straight roads, even if it is a handling and dynamics car first and foremost. Taking the top off and going for a drive along the coast is a great way to spend an hour or two during the weekends haha!
elfunnyroy@reddit
What this is silly, ain’t no small trade off. Why put good driving roads in quotes like they are a myth? You own an Elise!? Whaaaat!?
4Rascal@reddit
Ya I would disagree completely. I’ve lived and rode motorcycles in many mountain states and I’d rather board them for half the year than live in the flat year round because waiting for twisty mountain roads in the summer warmth is worth it if you care to experience something besides straight line acceleration. I get like no enjoyment from flat lands
hijinx_the_sage@reddit
everytime i see the twisty/curvy road sign i get a small grin
SEND_ME_FAKE_NEWS@reddit
This is why the temperature coastal cities are so expensive to live in, the weather tax.
footpole@reddit
I once drove my car on a road in Florida and out of nowhere a slight bend appeared after going straight for maybe only 25 minutes. That was scary but luckily most roads don’t have bends there!
KG8893@reddit
A Corvette isn't a muscle car, it's a sports car.
HURCANADA@reddit
I literally can't take anybody from most of North America's opinion on cars seriously because of this. Most people, even owners of the most performant cars out there, never put their cars on roads worth driving
KG8893@reddit
You missed the point. What you're saying is the same as "you can't have fun at work." Besides that, being obnoxious and not being fun are completely different.
People who can't get the fuck out of their own way are a problem. When you transplant a bunch of people you end up with more of them, and we all get stacked up behind them.
You can drive safe and have fun. You can drive fast and be safe. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. It's called don't be a selfish moron, which includes driving so slow that you're creating a traffic jam.
nazdock@reddit
need to move to florida, every road is a speedway.
DooceBigalo@reddit
but its flat and boring...
fishingforgains@reddit
Yepp one must do 95 on 95 lol
TomNooksRepoMan@reddit
Or just buy an Altima.
echtav@reddit
Bingo
hyoo82@reddit
As a car enthusiast, what does the OP consider a 'fast' car?
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Viper
CloudsTasteGeometric@reddit
Holy shit dude. Congrats.
Make the trek out of the city for the good roads. It’ll be worth it every time.
Many-Worldliness-817@reddit
Well u definitely have the car. I would go early in the morning, and maybe later at night, and avoid the busy hours
dodge_viper@reddit
Hell yeah, welcome to the club!
inaccurateTempedesc@reddit
My Buell Blast can throw down when it gets a little bit of tailwind.
AllTearGasNoBreaks@reddit
Mazda 3 turbo
/s
sectachrome@reddit
“Fast” cars aren’t really that great for daily driving activities, for the reasons you stated.
You need to:
-Go to a track
-Go to less congested areas
-Go out early in the morning
-Join the “slow car fast” movement
lostfate2005@reddit
Fast cars are great for daily driving imo
Aforementionedlurker@reddit
I don't disagree with you but I don't think they mean they can't get the job done but more of truly enjoying the "fast" part at least somewhat responsibly isn't usually going to happen in a traditional commute.
It's kinda like using a Miracle Blade to butter toast.
lostfate2005@reddit
I enjoy the fast part every trip
ThePretzul@reddit
You can enjoy the fast part just fine, you just can’t do it near your home if you live in town.
gaius49@reddit
My Cobra is a joy, even in traffic.
T-Baaller@reddit
-Join the localish autocross club
ukemike1@reddit
Id rather drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.
AladeenModaFuqa@reddit
Go find some back roads dude. Get out of the city to enjoy your vehicles.
memymomeddit@reddit
I'm more frustrated that I'm finally at a point in my life that I can afford that $80k Porsche I used to dream about, but now it's $155k
munche@reddit
The point of a fun car isn't to have fun sitting in traffic, it's to have fun when you're off on roads that aren't full of other people
Commuting sucks no matter what you're in
gaius49@reddit
I actually disagree pretty strongly. The point is to have a car that puts a smile on your face. A really fun car is fun even in heavy traffic.
NaturallyAspirated-@reddit
It sucks a lot less in a luxury car than in a sports car though
LoL_SirPolarBear@reddit
Middle TN has become awful. Our infrastructure is not designed for its current population and continued growth.
rick_C132@reddit
Where do you live ? Even in LA you can get out of town and hit the canyons if you are smart about it
neueziel1@reddit
lol “even in la” this guy…
dayvieee@reddit
I forgot what thread but can’t be worse than the guy comparing a Toyota to a McLaren?
benisnotapalindrome@reddit
Chicago is pretty bleak. Traffic's always been bad but it's getting worse, and by the time you drive a few hours to get out of town all there is is flat straight roads full of potholes.
The first time I went to visit my buddy in LA and we took his manual Scion xB to the canyons (lol) I was flabbergasted....amazing driving roads basically right in town. Didn't matter that the car was dog slow, stick shift and curvy roads will always put a smile on my face.
4Rascal@reddit
I have to admit I was surprised that you’re ripping on the xb and then glancing up at your flair
BetQuiet1784@reddit
I'm outside of Chicago still in cook county. Got my Mach 1 5 years ago. Track car built for the track but hard to drive as a daily. Still love it tho
Anchor_Aways@reddit
Driving at midnight+ on the LA Highways is an incredibly thrilling experience
HURCANADA@reddit
CHP always lurkin tho
Crunkabunch@reddit
110 freeway from downtown to Pasadena has some fun for a suburbanite too
Depeche_Mood82@reddit
Especially with those shirt on ramps that’s require you to step on the gas as soon as the light turns.
xlb250@reddit
Surprise mother****er
https://youtube.com/shorts/Gj5wXvKjSQ0
pdoege@reddit
My brother in christ, buy a used Prius, drive it at 110%. Flat out, everywhere, all the time. Those little tires shrieking at every corner; little engine howling on long mountain descents, ABS into the stops like a boss. You get 40MPG; never get a speeding ticket; living on absolute bleeding edge of low rolling resistance rubber.
You'll pay $100 for new tires, insurance is free, gas stations are a distant memory.
Then, rent a friend's track car and absolutely rail it once a month. Buy a ticket to Thermal/Vegas/local speedway every 3 months.
Neat-Drama-3512@reddit
I live in Los Angeles county. Say no more 😡
CelestialsareDone@reddit
The tragic irony of finally getting the manual sports car of your dreams just to develop a bionic left calf from Tennessee stop-and-go traffic. At least the Prius drivers aren't getting a workout.
MissSeductive22@reddit
The universe has a cruel sense of humor. You spend decades climbing the ladder to afford the dream, only for the ladder to be moved into a parking lot. At this point, a fast car in a booming city is just a very expensive, high-fidelity radio with nice seats. Might as well embrace the 'slow car fast' life, or just accept that your 0-60 is now measured in calendar days.
JillierHaroldLamaar@reddit
That's just the normal life experience now. Work harder than those before you just to get a shittier experience than they had.
Syscrush@reddit
Fast cars on public roads are a stupid waste. If you wanna have fun doing performance driving, just get into karting.
newcarguy2019@reddit
No. Having a fast car in an overly developed area is the least of my worries. You save the fast, fun car for the weekends. Daily the boring commuter.
vagabond139@reddit
My car isn't "fast" (FBO FR-S) but with a track ready suspension set up it can absolutely fly around turns and hold speed and I'm suffering from the same issue.
I used to be able to fly around turns, on ramps, and exit ramps. But now there's too much traffic for me to enjoy driving it daily. Plus the constant stop and go traffic is just annoying with a manual.
I think the solution is getting a "normal" daily and having your fun car for the weekend.
MR2FTW@reddit
I’m basically completely over street enthusiast activities. I have a bone stock fiesta st and that’s the fastest thing I’d ever need on the street. The track is the only place to really push a car. Even a twisty mountain road has traffic, cyclists, deer, and high penalties for getting it wrong. Give me a couple track weekends a year where I can push 100% and I’m good.
cocoagiant@reddit
This is why I specifically chose my car (Fiesta ST).
I get to drive like a maniac without breaking the speed limit or endangering people.
If you are driving a true performance sports car on public streets and actually trying to use that performance you are not a responsible driver.
Yaboijacob731@reddit
Brother you live in Tennessee. Drive 20 minutes into the backroads and you’ll have some of the emptiest but most enjoyable driving roads.
Autobahn321@reddit
I try to make a concerted effort to plan specific drive routes and take the time on the weekends to enjoy my cars. I'll use Google maps and other online resources during the week to find a fun route to take on the weekend. If I'm doing a less spirited drive, I will take my girlfriend sometimes and we will get breakfast or lunch and make a date of it, because she likes fun drives too. You can absolutely still enjoy your fast cars no matter where you live, sometimes it just takes a little more effort.
xrelaht@reddit
“This guy’s town sounds like mine. Oh, funny: we’re neighbors…”
I bought a fast car when I first moved here 10 years ago. I enjoyed it back then. I no longer have a commute, but I’d gotten sick of doing it in that car while I still did. Sitting there for 10 minutes creeping forward in 1st gear got old. So did the sport suspension breaking my spine on the badly maintained roads.
My primary vehicle now is my off-roading truck: if I’m gonna be forced to drive slow on shitty terrain, I might as well be in something designed for (basically) that.
Main_Tension_9305@reddit
I stopped riding fast motorcycles on the street for this reason.
And a couple more reasons too, but this is a big one.
Lost_Most_9732@reddit
no, you use your newly acquired fast car to blow past all of the big, ugly trucks with empty beds and SUVs with texting girls who are in your way.
maeshughes32@reddit
There used to be some decent backroads around me that I loved driving my brz on. Now the congestion is so high I dont bother. I've shifted my views and now considering a muscle car because all I do is drive it to work and back on high ways. I autocross when I can but even then the track that is 10 minutes from me closed last year because it was sold for a fucking data center. There is another autox about 30 mins away and ill run it but chances to drive a good handling, slow car fast are dwindling.
OldRed91@reddit
You should support alternative modes of transportation in your local area in order to reduce traffic then :)
DudeWhereIsMyDuduk@reddit
I'll die on the hill that if you're actually enjoying a fast car on public roads, as a runner I hope you enjoy dealing with my estate after you didn't see me around a corner.
There are a lot of cars you can enjoy legally on public roads, but that's not the tone I got from your post.
elfunnyroy@reddit
Get out of the middle of the road and go run somewhere where there aren’t people trying to enjoy driving cars. Actually better yet go to the uwharrie and snap a drivetrain component on your 2025 Wrangler “unlimited rubicon X” should b easy peasy. Then u can complain about that instead pls
This guys brain came up with this opinion that people should not rip backroads because he’s running in the middle of them, and also came up with the idea to purchase a 2025 jeep wrangler “unlimited rubicon x”. No contradictions here, all is in order.
Poopy brains if I’ve ever come across them.
Sorry man just what the actual fuck are you talking about hosscat!?
VTEC168@reddit
That's what track days and autocross are for.
Once you learn how to drive, I mean really drive, speeding on public highways is boring af
RevvCats@reddit
Pretty much, my highway cruising speed went down significantly once I started hitting the track.
BrunoEye@reddit
I never saw the appeal. I've owned a car for under a year and I've gone faster on a country lane than I ever have on the motorway.
RevvCats@reddit
You’re going over 70 mph on country roads? Im in the north east of the US and we’ve got loads of hills that are fun to bomb around on but ignoring the deer who will jump out in front of you there’s just too much loose grit to loose traction on to drive that fast.
elfunnyroy@reddit
Wait, what the fuck are people doing with their fun cars? There is no where on the east coast I wouldn’t rip on backroads I mean all the way up to Maine/Vermont too, really what are we talking about?
Astramael@reddit
This happens to most people, and it definitely happened to me. After some seat time the level of speed you can generate on public roads doesn’t seem very exciting. You can’t really push the cars hard even driving recklessly.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Been doing since 2005. Still it's just a few times a year.
OttoVonCranky@reddit
No
f1racer328@reddit
Dude I can’t even gun it onto an on-ramp where I live.
Go to the track or find some empty backroads.
Captain_Pink_Pants@reddit
Go the long way.
Our area is one of the worst in the country for periodic congestion... We don't even pretend to fuck with it. The back roads around here are world class. I'll drive 100+ miles out of my way rather than sit in traffic for 5-6 hours. I don't even care if I save any time. Like the bumper sticker says "I'd rather be driving".
Hour_Purple_3069@reddit
I know what you mean. I’m in TN also.I live in Tri-City area. My family moved here from Boston in late 90s.I lived in Charlotte, NC with my girlfriend but I visited my family monthly. I moved in with my family after I became single in 2016. I remember I am the only car 10 out of 8 times anytime any day on the Bristol Hwy. Now I have to wait just to get on it. Traffic is so bad now and sorry you can’t enjoy your ride with the trill.
lorenzo2point5@reddit
I got a motorcycle to do primal male shit on a very fast two wheeled vehicle it's the perfect commuter and zipping through traffic is lane splitting is legal in your state.
publicsausage@reddit
You're a moron. Go drive fast in traffic idiot
TheCrudMan@reddit
Track day bro.
i-wear-extra-medium@reddit
Sunday mornings. It’s worth waking up at 5am. No amount of coffee will wake you up that much
SirLoremIpsum@reddit
A fast car is only fast some of the time. A luxury car is luxury all the time.
You shouldn't be doing spirited driving on your commute on suburban streets anyway. That's ridiculous.
Take it to a track day. Do some auto cross. Get out there and enjoy your car.
Buying a car with amazing speed and handling only to "enjoy" it during your commute is an absurd reason to buy such a car imo
TylerDurden2748@reddit
You can very easily find empty roads lol. I live somewhere crowded and at night the roads that arent arteries or highways are empty and i can easily hit 80-100 mph on em for a few seconds
Herb4372@reddit
You’re not IN traffic.
You ARE traffic.
BristleConeRanch@reddit
I get a pre-Dawn. Sometimes four 5 AM. Drive away from any place that good potentially get traffic. Every week and morning.
KG8893@reddit
It is WAY more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Take a fast car to the track. Get a Miata if you want to have fun on back roads.
R3DLOTU5@reddit
When reading your post, i immediately thought "Tennessee" i lived in Rutherford county before moving halfway across the country. I felt pushed out of my area, crime went to hell, traffic went to hell. I miss my family, but for my own well being i... just couldnt.
Finally bought a motorcycle, only to get baked out in traffic jams, got a G8, only to sit in traffic and get scared of someone else almost hitting it because they drive like its a GTA server.
kicker58@reddit
Remember you are the traffic if you are sitting in traffic
NorCalAthlete@reddit
If traffic is that bad and your commute is that short I’d just be on a bicycle.
MagicMetalWizard@reddit
Sounds like west knoxville, or really all of knoxville
IMA_5-STAR_MAN@reddit
I'm frustrated that in the past 10 years I've quadrupled my income, but the combination of having more expenses, trying to save for retirement, and a market where 30k now gets you shit, the used car I want is still well out of reach.
ilikemyprius@reddit
Literally me - bought a W204 C63 but because of traffic and roads where I live, it was impossible to drive over 30mph the vast majority of the time. Ended up selling it, still driving a Prius since it's better suited for the traffic.
A new Prelude would be the perfect enthusiast car for me, but I can't justify the cost for one.
EvoX-11@reddit
One of the reason why I sold my R35 and X3M. Can't even drive anywhere without traffic over the weekends.
hmkr@reddit
Go out at midnight speed racer.
The49GiantWarriors@reddit
What is the relevance of a fast car on a public road?
mustangfan12@reddit
You take your car to the track for that purpose, you never do street racing
No_Commercial4074@reddit
Track days and/or autox will be your fix. Legal ways to hoon.
Zestyclose-Kick-7388@reddit
Traffic, bad roads, potholes. Almost not worth it to have a nice or fast car at all
quiksi@reddit
I drive my fun cars for leisure. My daily (the daily for my daily) is automatic and comfortable.
Viperlite@reddit
Was out today jn my CTS-V. Beautiful Friday afternoon with wide open scenic roads… and one car in front of me puttering at 15 mph under the limit.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
I'm assuming you just passed them? If you're in a backroad and someone is driving slow as shit just pass em, nobody's gonna care lol
BrunoEye@reddit
If it's twisty you often can't see far enough ahead to do it safely.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
I mean he didn't mention it was a twisty road, I've never driven on one either so idk how that works, NJ doesn't have hills.
jrileyy229@reddit
So you bought a fast car (whatever that means... We don't know if that's an ecoboost mustang or a McLaren) just to commute in?
Even if you didn't have traffic, how fast do you think you're going to go in an urban area?
You already knew what your commute was like.. it's not like it drastically changed overnight. And of course a manual in stop and go traffic sucks.... You knew you deal with stop and go traffic, so why buy a manual.
None of this makes any sense. Get up early Saturday morning and go drive. Or to to a track or autocross event
roman_maverik@reddit
OP is definitely smoking something, but I guess I'm in the minority where I enjoy 6MT driving during my commute in traffic.
IMHO, it's where cars like the Civic Si and Fiesta ST shine, since they are all about driving feel and low speeds, but still very fun.
My C7 was horrible to drive in traffic, because you always felt like so much was left on the table.
Meanwhile, I had dailies like an 8th gen Civic So and FiST that made my commute actually fun, even if was 30-40 mph
DudeWhereIsMyDuduk@reddit
As a runner, you want to deal with my estate when you try to hit the apex and I'm around a corner?
Take a drift course on a track.
thefudd@reddit
That's what Sunday morning drives are for. Top down, straight 6 screaming behind you. Some curves.
sinceJune4@reddit
Lots of intersection takeovers here in GA with the street racers doing donuts and burning tires. Looks like fun if I had a muscle car and nice tire budget!
Abject-Picture@reddit
Having a fast/desirable car seems to invite speed racers to a challenge at every light. Gets old FAST.
OzCommodore@reddit
100%. I'm in mid 30s and need a new car. I was considering a Supra or Corvette but I'm leaning against it for this exact reason. Luckily there's a lot of sleeper SUVs that are maybe half the thrills, and won't attract street racers.
ArkiTechMK@reddit
You're really going to let some attention from "street racers" at red lights sway you away from buying a sports car? The fuck? Be a big boy and exercise some agency once in awhile
OzCommodore@reddit
I like to keep a low profile. I really don't care if "Big Boys" drive sports cars. My ego won't doesn't care.
ArkiTechMK@reddit
Whatever you say man, just don't want you to rob yourself of experiencing what you truly want over some nobodies that you could just ignore
OzCommodore@reddit
I don't want to "experience" people staring at my car, revving their engine at red lights, and bothering me at the pump. If I want to drive a Corvette I'll rent one at the track. Getting that kind of attention would drive me crazy. I like my privacy.
Abject-Picture@reddit
Same. It's partly I've changed but mostly they're getting really aggressive and harder to ignore. Used to be polite respect, now it's just all trolls wanting to say they beat an NSX.
BrokeAsshole@reddit
Get a load this peder over here
lostfate2005@reddit
Who cares? You don’t have to race someone just cause they want to
FirehawkLS1@reddit
I bring my car to the track or autocross events if I want to have fun with it. Or rural roads. Yes all these options take driving for a bit or paying and planning but it's worth it.
knsaber@reddit
I’m glad I moved further away from the city when I did. Amazing local roads I can happily drive all day long.
Clip_Clippington@reddit
The trick is to commute home from work on an empty curvy Long Island parkway at 2 AM. :-)
Otherwise, like everybody else noted, it's probably going to be best enjoyed on a spirited road with low traffic counts. I think you're just noticing it more because of the shift in development in your area versus some of us who have lived in areas that have been developed since the 1950s.
BusinessBlackBear@reddit
Tennessee you say? If your eastern tenn than the mountains are home of some of the best driving roads in the world.
Important-Pudding-49@reddit
Fast cars are for race tracks. Public roads are for transportation. If you truly do own a fast car, there is probably a car club in your area.
Spicywolff@reddit
This is one of the primary reasons I sold my motorcycle. I grew up here and the roads you know we’re still city roads, but I didn’t feel an abnormal amount of risk as a rider.
But as I’ve gotten older and into my college years, the population boom so much in my area of Florida. That the traffic is so much more packed and into me dangerous. The risk I was willing to take was no longer the case. That’s when I made the decision to sell the motorcycle.
To fix this I do auto cross track days and once in a blue moon, I’ll rent a motorcycle at Jennings GP
Eyeronick@reddit
I did this but a different way. Rode street bikes for 10 years, roads were becoming too dangerous and congested. Ended up going to a dirt bike, it's leagues more fun than street anyways and the stakes are way lower (I do offroad, not motocross).
Spicywolff@reddit
Unfortunately in my area of Florida there is very little place for dirt bikes anymore without cops chasing you. And the closes MX park just sold out. So long drive, that’s if I even had a place to store a MX
Eyeronick@reddit
Same, I don't like jumps haha. That's too bad. I'm way up in Alberta, CAN, we have some of the best offroad access in the world here, very lucky. 35 minutes from my door in a suburb of a major city to boots on the ground at the trails.
Spicywolff@reddit
I’m scared of those big jumps, I’m in my early 30’s. I got to be cognizant of what happens if my activity goes wrong lol.
Small world, have a buddy that lives in Alberta. Back in Alton America w have some amazing tracks too. Such a fun leasure ride.
Eyeronick@reddit
My exact mindset, I'm early 30s too, if I break then I can't pay the bills haha.
Alarmed_Wish_1085@reddit
True car enthusiasts support public transit. If we all had better public transit those who do not want to drive, can barely afford to drive etc will be off our roads. Leaving more space for those who like to drive for leisure. look to germany, switzerland where supercars can be driven daily and at leisure, even in cities, because they actually have transit.
generalistinterests@reddit
Maybe your economy is stronger which enabled you to afford a fast car with the side effect of brining population growth. Perhaps if the population growth wasn’t happening you wouldn’t be able to have the car.
amiga1@reddit
just been watching traffic volumes creep up the entire time i've been driving (will be 10 years in November). Even an MX5 is superfluous to do 10mph in traffic.
I happily gave up daily commuting 2 years ago. I was on the edge of re-enacting Falling Down so definitely for the best.
GodsFavoriteDegen@reddit
I have often wondered, as I piloted my expensive German sports car down a delightfully twisty mountain back road behind a 1986 F150 going 22 miles an hour under the speed limit, why I did not spend my money on a leather Barcalounger-equipped houseboat SUV with a refrigerator in the center console.
Fundabz@reddit
Yes. My commute some days is alright going to work usually, but coming back is straight up ass. Feel very jaded some days, like you said might as well have a Prius lol.
Significant-Pen-6049@reddit
Ehh, probably better you dont get a ticket. Progressive will double your rates and you lose accident forgiveness
TaperingRanger9@reddit
Yes but I just travel outside the city and rip around on some windy roads after dark. Unless you're one of those people who likes cutting up traffic, then you pretty much just gotta drive it like a normal car most the time.
pruplystenier@reddit
This is sad fr, but to put a positive spin on it, anytime you drive your fast car will be intentional. You will only take this car out when you wanna feel good or the weather is beautiful and you know a spot. You’re gonna be one of those people pulling out beautiful cars on beautiful days.
HasntBlownUpYet@reddit
Buying a fast car to commute to work is like paying for a twin lobster dinner and eating it at your desk.
negitoro7@reddit
I drive a 2026 Golf R in one of the most traffic-congested cities in North America. As much as I’m tempted by the much more expensive and better sounding Audi RS3, I can barely utilize the 328 hp of my Golf R around here anyway.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
I got almost double your HP in a Viper.
negitoro7@reddit
Yeah I can’t imagine how frustrating it is trying to enjoy something that high powered in a traffic-congested area. My modest powered car is more than I could ever use around here already.
Phrainkee@reddit
Wadya get?? Don't leave us hanging!
Also find some cool twisty roads that go outta town and just take a small trip on a day off or even just afterwork if you're feeling it
iHaveLotsofCats94@reddit
This is the exact reason i got rid of my motorcycle. I had a KTM 390 Duke that loved lower speed, twisty roads. I moved somewhere where everything is straight, flat, and full of potholes, so I sold it. It wasn't fun anymore
calguy1955@reddit
This is why its ridiculous to waste your money on a car designed for racing just to show off. I your car goes from 0 to the speed limit in 1st or even 2nd gear you’ve wasted your money from a legal driving standpoint. That being said, become a night owl and go out at 3 am.
Realistic-Realist@reddit
Try living on Long Island.
KaenenM@reddit
You must live in the Seattle area? I struggle with concept of ever owning anything with more than 350HP... where am I actually going to enjoy it? 350HP is plenty to get up to speed on on ramps, seize a gap if I want it... etc.
Don't get me wrong, would love to own something with ridiculous HP but living in the Seattle area, there is rarely a time or good space to use it that isn't full of other cars and or cops.
Heavy_Gap_5047@reddit
This area has gotten better, cops are almost non-existent on the roads, and even then aren't doing shit. The drivers are worse, and traffic is still shit, but without active cops, there's options.
KaenenM@reddit
You're not wrong... I live in the Seattle area and work up in Everett and hardly ever see anything but an occasional state trooper.
doug_Or@reddit
Seattle traffic sucked well before COVID
Shmokesshweed@reddit
The mountains. 😉
sctellos@reddit
Not really because I’m not looking to drive fast on residential roads or on freeways..
maLcoLm4819@reddit
I 100% understand this. New housing developments (single family and multi) being built in every direction where I stay with dated infrastructure that bottlenecks the more north you go.
Similar situation, I just take days off to go driving/errands and drive it weekend mornings. Would recommend a daily if you don't have one, especially with a Viper.
Famous_Bit_5119@reddit
I was in Toronto traffic driving a tractor trailer and stuck along with all the other traffic was a Mercedes SLR McLaren.
All I could think of was " Poor bastard, all that car, and you're doing 30 kmh along with the rest of us."
kyonkun_denwa@reddit
I live in Toronto. The driving here is so bad that it made me say "you know what, fuck it" to having a manual daily. It just becomes a chore to drive it.
I have an old manual transmission car that I'll drive up to the cottage or up to Lake Simcoe on the back roads, but for my dailies it's gonna be comfy autotragics from now on. If I'm gonna sit in traffic then I'm gonna make the experience as pleasant as possible.
Heavy_Gap_5047@reddit
Yesterday I passed a Lambo that was screwing around on the highway.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
That's how I feel in my Viper.
TowJammer212@reddit
Traffic volume has increased almost 30% since the year 2000. Slow car fast is much more fun for me these days.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
I'm starting to lean towards this - just get a do it all fun daily and call it good enough.
Having an 11 second car in traffic is damn near pointless for me now.
Heavy_Gap_5047@reddit
There's a reason why even though I love driving fast and would really like one I've never owned a sports car. They just aren't fast on real roads, a quick sedan that can blend and cut through traffic is considerably faster on real roads with real traffic and real cops.
skepticaljesus@reddit
I live in chicago and only ever sit in traffic
Heavy_Gap_5047@reddit
I'm fortunate that my area has gotten far better in regards to driving.
ThatsNashTea@reddit
Reading through your post: "Damn, this sounds like Mid TN"
Hate to be right. Used to be suburban but now crazy built up. Let's see if I can guess in 3 chances: Murfreesboro, Clarksville, or Smyrna?
dontbiteillcum@reddit
Critical thinking isn’t your strength is it?
WatRedditHathWrought@reddit
Bot
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Yeah, my 6y old account.
WarCrimeGaming@reddit
No
PalmSizedTriceratops@reddit
Do people ever ask you why you bought two Supras lol
WarCrimeGaming@reddit
They ask if it’s the new Celica actually.
Sp3ctreZero@reddit
Well, is it?
PalmSizedTriceratops@reddit
Hah. That's funny.
Immediate_Bee_6472@reddit
I just came to say I’m glad u kept it real about the manual traffic part I got flamed for saying that shit is not cool in nyc traffic idc what car it is
And as far as the speed it correct it’s why I feel like above 400hp is worthless it’s nowhere to use for me ..quick pills are fun but just eats the gas
That said I want a 500 hp alfa
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Guilia
Immediate_Bee_6472@reddit
Or a stelvio my dream car rn is the x4m but the stelvio will do
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FlyEaglesFly95@reddit
Oh no the horror, better move!
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Just go out of your area and drive, take a drive down some back roads instead of through town
FlyEaglesFly95@reddit
Oh the horror of first world probs..
CaptMeow857@reddit
600HP going on 3rd year of ownership. Lifetime avg MHP is 47 per the trip computer (I don't reset that bank). Boston.
MrCance@reddit
Join the SCCA and get on track.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Been doing since 2005. Closest track is 3 hours away and SoloII is boring after a while. 5 minutes of seat time for the majority of your Sunday is not a great return on your time.
I've done several track nights in America but the closest track is 3 hours away and even then it's not offered a ton.
I've also ran with Jzilla and a few other groups.
lostfate2005@reddit
No, go to the track
humdizzle@reddit
best thing is to have both a sports car and a daily. if you want to drive fast you need to do it on the weekends or nights when traffic is minimal. Even then major city streets or highways are still somewhat congested and you can't trust other drivers to not suddenly jump into the left lane when you're doing 100. Alot of people make fun of the flyover rural states, but one big benefit is i can get to an empty backroad with my 911 and absolutely rip it.
i rented a G80 M3 in nyc... pointless. way too much traffic to use even 50% of what that car can do. Rented an R8 and TTRS in LA and San diego... same thing. I had to spend like an hour to get to the mountains to have some fun and then drive an hour back.
SolaceinIron@reddit
Yes, my commute is also going to shift to a more congested area when we move offices this year.
I use to be able to enjoy a back country kinda drive and now I’m going to need to take the long way around traffic to enjoy myself
MasterofPeridots@reddit
Do you like in what's now an urban area or something? Are there no backroads nearby? Maybe late at night?
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
There are, but family life and oblit limits late night runs.
n0brain3r@reddit
As a previous owner of a ‘fast’ car, the speed limit is the same. You can race to the next stoplight, that’s about it. I have a sleeper vehicle now. It’s more satisfying to smoke a punk in their latest civic si, Subaru Worx, mustang, or whatever with my ‘dad suv’. Besides with the electric vehicles beating most ICE what’s the point? It’s not a level field anymore and the underdogs of ‘there’s no replacement for displacement’ have been decimated by the electrification…. And gas costs.
BondGoldBond007@reddit (OP)
Wow this blew up fast! I made this post and stepped outside for a few minutes - I'll try to reply.
Swagsturbate@reddit
I’ve found a way to put 36,000 miles on my 2024 model year fun can in Los Angeles of all places. Gotta get out of the city a bit.
ZannX@reddit
Go on a roadtrip - drove my C8 6500 miles around the US. Pike's Peak, Tail of the Dragon etc.
Do autocrosses - I've autocrossed all my cars.
Trackdays - I've tracked most of my cars.
Just get out of the city man.
justcuckmyshitupfam2@reddit
Should've bought an Altima.
shmeeshmaa@reddit
Haha yes. I live in Orange CountyLA and I would have to go way out of my way to drive spirited. And it fucking sucks. Because I don’t prioritize that or have anyone to go with. Also with insurance rates going up and car culture being as popular as it is, I don’t want to get a ticket. So the options are limited on where to go and the paranoia of driving. Starting to care less and less about having a fast car and more about practicality. It actually sucks and is extremely disappointing. Some of it’s how I think about it now in my late 30s but I wish I had the car a decade earlier because I would have cared less.
1911Earthling@reddit
I zip out the back way to Julian and carve through the twisties of the Sunrise Highway. You can drive for hours.
OzCommodore@reddit
This is definitely happening in a lot of places. I live in a Tri-State logist hub and population increased about 30% across the whole area. Tons of distribution warehouses are going up, so more slow semi trucks are on the road too.
No-Stick8191@reddit
Yeah. It's the one thing I miss about Covid. There was nobody on the roads.
Posraman@reddit
Having a fast car is useful for road trips and passing people. In town, a hybrid is much better.
The_Exia@reddit
I couldn't imagine living in the Toronto area again now with the amount of traffic. Its impossible to enjoy fun cars, they don't even have to be fast, there is just to much congestion. I'd probably just own a M340i or something and call it a day if I still lived there.
I'm so glad to have back roads and nice drives available in my area within 15min in 3 directions of my city that go easily for 150km.
Its definitely a thing, people live in cities and cities keep growing which means more traffic and less access to nice roads as more people go to those roads.
The only solution is to move somewhere else. There are definitely a lot of cities out there that are large enough for all your needs but in a location close enough to back roads, lakes etc without being obnoxious with traffic. However the issue is finding a job in your field in those cities and uprooting isn't always the easiest thing.
So ya, it sucks. You either deal with it or move.
xDauntlessZ@reddit
Charlotte traffic fr. I feel this.
But also, my parents live out in a rural area so I have fun on the back roads
ahorrribledrummer@reddit
You live in charlotte. Drive an hour in almost any direction and you're in drivers paradise
xDauntlessZ@reddit
reads the second part of my comment
reiterates what I said
You can get to a rural area/backroad within an hour, sure. The fun roads are about 2.5-3 hours away up in Asheville/Boone
ahorrribledrummer@reddit
Fair enough
Altruistic_Brick1730@reddit
No way your area got so congested so quickly that a faster car would've been able to go fast just a few years prior.
zzaaaaap@reddit
I have a worse one for you. The complex I recently moved to was bought out and the new rules stated that I'm only allowed one vehicle. So I had to sell my favorite car (after paying $800 to get it out of a tow yard) because I couldn't find a storage facility quick enough.
Not to mention the traffic is similar to what you experience. I'm stuck in an EV all day, every day.
oroscor1@reddit
Slow car fast is the way to go. Traffic is the great equalizer, doesn't matter what you drive everyone uses the same roads. Rush hour doesn't care about your McLaren or your Civic.
comeonyouspurs10@reddit
Motorcycle.
-GenlyAI-@reddit
Motorcycles make traffic disappear? I just like them for the influx of organ donations.
comeonyouspurs10@reddit
Filter your way to the twisties. I was in same position as OP and bought a bike 4 years ago. Cheaper than a sports car and more fun. Makes it easier to get around traffic. Yea you might die but just don’t crash.
LemursRideBigWheels@reddit
Honestly, I don’t have a fast car but mine is quick enough that I kind of wish I had a slower but insanely well handling car. I live up a 15 mile canyon drive from work that is the sort of commute most people would dream of…but being able to do 90 in 3rd is totally worthless as you always end up doing 35 behind some tourist…and is also a great way to end up in the creek or jail. It’d be way more fun to fling around something like a Miata or FRS than being able to double the speed limit. Honestly, most days driving my partner’s KIA is more fun than driving my car…
xtraburnacct@reddit
So you bought a fast car to just commute in it?
aukstais@reddit
Cities are not a place for fast cars. Yeah, you can show off your new car, but it has no real place in the city. An old KIA can do all the same things in the city as a sports car and do it in a safer fashion. Fast car can be nice if you can afford to go to the race track from time to time, because even on motorways, you can't really go fast without endangering everyboady else. So in general your complaint seems kind of irrelevant of the fact about the sports car. As the speed limit is the same for all cars and 70mph doesn't feel that different in a lambo compared to a family sedan. The acceleration is the only difference.
Drzhivago138@reddit
The more frustrating part is that living in the Midwest, all the rural roads are a grid.
noSSD4me@reddit
That's what early Sunday mornings are for. When I used to have a fast car (E39 M5), I would wake up around 6 am and go for a nice 2-3 hr drive through mountain roads or just cruise on freeways around (with minor shehanigans lol). Nobody is out at that hour on a Sunday so you'll have all the roads to yourself (mostly). For every day driving, I had a slow manual car to drive so I woudn't feel too bad 😅
Alan0515@reddit
Go somewhere else
DoublePostedBroski@reddit
No because I don’t drive recklessly
SofaProfessor@reddit
I get out of the city if I want to rip. Even if the city roads aren't busy, driving fast is a great way to get a pricey ticket or worse.
argilla11@reddit
Just travel further when you want to have fun. A fun car is still better than a boring one even when you’re sitting
Slochetah@reddit
At this point the sports car should come with a little cabin in the woods because way out in the country, away from people, is the only place you will enjoy that car. Find yourself some back roads on a Sunday morning.
Mother____Clucker@reddit
I didn't buy a fast car, but I bought a fast bike a couple of years ago. Honestly, I don't even care that there is a lot of traffic to contend with in my city. I simply ride out into the mountains if I want to enjoy it in a spirited manner.
W3RLEGION@reddit
Find some roads outside the city. I'm sure they're more fun anyways.