I dont know what to think about 9070xt.
Posted by Feeling-Affect8929@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 95 comments
everybody saying something different
some people say it dethrones the 5070ti, with it beeing as good for a lot less money, and that its the best card rn
and some people say its terrible crashes a lot, the drivers are terrible and just to pay the extra
i watched hardware unboxed it was great, i asked on reddit people were talking real good bout it
but then i watched a live from crimson desert with high settings, rt on, on 1440p, and it was terrible (idk if the frame gen or upscaling was on it was probably native)
30fps, the screen was weird and all, the guy playing was trashing on it, after a little while it literally crashed, the chat was shitting on it
idk, i dont got the money for a 5070ti what do I do
Existanceisdenied@reddit
Im running a 9070xt and 7800x3d and I get around 110fps on ultra 1440p with rt on fsr4 native aa
Organic_Ad3558@reddit
If your games are ray tracing (RT) heavy (Cyberpunk maxed out, Alan Wake 2 with RT, etc.) — the 9070 XT is genuinely the wrong card and the frustration you saw is what you’d get. If you mostly play competitive games, RPGs, shooters, or anything where RT is optional — the 9070 XT is a brilliant card for the money and the driver situation, while not perfect, is manageable.
Mystravel@reddit
just buy it and join the argument yourself
Summit1BigHead@reddit
AMD is for poor people.
I have a GTX1080
Additional-Cup-3785@reddit
I hope this is satire lol
freestyleflo@reddit
It's the Money worth Buyed myself a 9070xt. Has a great gaming perf. After a few issues and Testing.
But If you know Windows 10 & 11 will Users His own Microsoft drivers. And you Stop this and so a DDU with a Clean Install with 26.3.1. than you have one of the top 3/4 gaming gpu's . And in my eyes the best bang for the bucks.
5090, 4090, 5080/9070xt
I would again but next time the best rev. Like vastamor or Red Devil , taichi or Something. To get the best Performance in VR.
If i could i would buy a second (but No sli / AMD dual Mode)
Several_Sweet_4298@reddit
As long as your are doing a clean driver installation and a normal undervolt it shouldn't have any issues. The only problem that could exist is if your lose the silicone lottery
donut4ever21@reddit
I have this card. I bought it because I run Linux and Nvidia is bad on Linux. So far, it has been fantastic. I play 4k games and always get 90+ fps and full 120hz with FSR. Crimson desert is not optimized for AMD and looks like ass. Grainy as hell. But overall, I love the card.
BilboBagskin69@reddit
I have the gigabyte. Damn good card in my opinion
Silly_Word8688@reddit
dont buy the ti versions or anything similar to it trust me its not worth it
TokageLife@reddit
Always down to your use case. I play wuwa and the 9070xt is dogshit with rt enabled since the latest region launched. Lots of stutters and shader issues.
In other games like Cyberpunk and Clair Obscur it has been amazing if you jump through extra hoops with optiscaler.
If you don't have the money to pay for everything to be set up for you out of the box then suck it up and learn to Optiscaler. It's not difficult to use just annoying that you have to do AMD's job for them.
Death_Pokman@reddit
Idk man, I wouldn't trust a whatever streamer gameplay over a tech reviewer on YouTube, I would suggest checking out some real gameplay on YouTube about crimson desert, btw my 6800XT runs it amazingly.....
Goddemmitt@reddit
The 6800XT is a criminally underrated GPU.
fedsx@reddit
How does it dethrone the 5070ti? The 5070ti is more expensive but also just an overall better card. The 9070xt is better value for the money that's all. If you are that worried then just save up more money and get a 5070ti or whatever is good at the time or get a used Nvidia card to try and hold you over for a few years. Nvidia is much more popular so game developers will of course mainly optimize for Nvidia cards and fixes for Nvidia cards will come faster. You can go look at the Steam hardware stats yourself to confirm that. I wish AMD was better so Nvidia would have more competition.
f1rstx@reddit
It’s not as good as 5070 ti, it’s worse in every way. It’s much cheaper however
Green_Attitude_2989@reddit
5070ti always
StunningPush8421@reddit
as someone who has used the 9070 xt, 5070 ti and 5070 I think I can give a pretty good anwser. Rn I am using the 9070 xt
So to start no the 9070 xt is not better than the 5070 ti the 5070 ti in my experience is just all around the better card for pretty much everything.
That being said the 9070 xt isn't too far behind and in most cases it is like 30 percent cheaper which is why it is normally recommended.
Overall my experience with the 9070 xt has been great and it can do pretty much whatever the 5070 ti can do except some cases like path tracing and frame gen(quite a bit worse on the 9070 xt).
Also just a bit more tinkering with things like optiscaler
mixedd@reddit
I will add my two cents, as I also used both and now settled on 5070Ti after a year of using 9070XT. If you're for raster performance go for either, if things like DLSS, RT and PT are of interest grab a 5070Ti. Not that 9070XT can't handle RT, but 5070ti does it better. Second thing is tech support, on 9070XT your best friend is OptiScaler as it will be go to for games that doesnt support FSR4 or can't be upgraded from FSR3.1, where you basically will hijack DLSS input and transform it to FSR4. On 5070Ti you can grab older game and just swap DLSS without big hassle, for example RDR2 free to use DLSS4 TN model, where for FSR4 you need to use OptiScaler with additional steps. Next thing is if you ever try to use Linux and need HDMI2.1 your only option is to buy adapter that will have it's own quirks while Nvidia works out of the box, tough doesn't have such good Linix support as AMD does. Should I pick one of two now, honesty would go Nvidia just for updated DLSS support out of the box without the OptiScaler fiddle, as I play many older games from my backlog that are stuck on FSR2 and so on.
beirch@reddit
Jesus christ man, paragraphs.
mixedd@reddit
It's called mobile + hurry
shhbb@reddit
Just got a 9070 XT about a week ago. I've been using mine to play crimson desert at 4k. Runs great. Crimson desert is sort of an ugly game at times. More so the game engines fault than the 9070 XT.
I haven't really had any notable issues with this card yet other than having to turn off Ambient mode on YouTube. I've thrown every high demand game I have at it so far and everything has been fantastic.
SnooWalruses2932@reddit
I love my 9070 xt tbh glad I didn’t over pay for 16gb vram card it unlocks a lot of stuff u can do in games because VRAM isn’t a limited but if u go nvidia get a 5070ti because its 16gb vram 12gb of VRAM can limit u on newer games if ur trying to get best graphics I switch from a 4070 ti 12gb to a 9070xt 16gb im loving every moment but if u have extra money get 5070ti it out performs n u have 16gb
Mobile-Way1383@reddit
Random steamer vs Hardware Unboxed.....
Think about this for a second.
GaboshocK@reddit
Hear me out. I just upgraded from a 3070 to a 9070xt (asus prime) and holy shit it's so good.
I'm playing Crimson desert (which BTW was given for free with my purchase) at max settings 1440p ray tracing with RR off AND NO FSR, no upscaling at 80+fps... Runs so smooth looks so crisp and I love it honestly.
The only thing is that I note that the colors look way more vibrant, had to decrease the saturation a little
extrvnced@reddit
I have a 9070xt that I use to play at 4k. I also have a 4090 in a separate PC but find the 9070xt does a great job and I don’t feel like I’m missing out. It got even better once I set up Optiscaler to inject FSR4 into games. FSR4 genuinely looks amazing and rivals DLSS4 for me.
Oeds_Vlogt@reddit
Can I ask if you have had any issues with audio popping? I've spend 12 hours or so trying to fix audio popping and it turns out it's the graphic drivers fault.
extrvnced@reddit
I have not, though admittedly I am on Linux. I suspect Windows being partially at fault as I’ve had a huge uptick in issues and bugs on Windows with both AMD and Nvidia the last year or so. Have you tried a clean driver reinstall using DDU? I’ve heard the clean install option in Adrenalin doesn’t always fully wipe the old driver.
Oeds_Vlogt@reddit
I clean wiped both the GPU and audio but the problem seems to be the drivers. After wiping the GPU the audio sounds normal but as soon as I install the GPU drivers it goes back to being full of crackles and pops. I might have to try Linux if this doesn't get fixed.
AdvancedTeacher9446@reddit
I have none of these issues on 9070xt.
extrvnced@reddit
Sorry to hear that. My linux experience has been close to flawless, I use Bazzite in a PC used exclusively for gaming. Good luck and hope you figure your issue out.
Inner-Ear@reddit
I kind of regret getting a 5070 instead of the 9070 xt. Do you think it would be worth it to return it and get a 9070 xt? Seems like the 9070 xt runs about $80-$100 more than what I paid for the 5070
extrvnced@reddit
The 9070xt is a significantly faster GPU than the base 5070. It’s more comparable to the 5070ti. If you don’t mind the price difference I would absolutely recommend the 9070xt over the 5070, its in a completely different class
Inner-Ear@reddit
Thank you
extrvnced@reddit
You’re welcome
Eve_Nightwalker@reddit
I haven't had a single driver problem with mine. Also not a single crash since I got it back in October.
Bigfootcl@reddit
Here's a perspective from a older gamer :). I don't care 1mm for upscaling, frame-gen, ray-tracing or any other of that rubbish. Matter of fact I'll gladly run a game on Ultra at 30fps, or Very High at 60fps then go any lower just to get 1000 fps. Not even because I necessarily need to, just because I don't like to see my CPU or GPU at 100% utilization in my hot and humid climate. If my GPU is over 65C and/or CPU is over 75/80C, down goes the frame limiter.
So value for money is my absolute King and Nvidia is not where that is.
damien24101982@reddit
Id save money until i could afford nvidia
OkStrategy685@reddit
Man, you're only going the gets replies by bots and AMD fanboys. Just do more research and make up your own mind. Don't ask reddit to decide for you.
gokufire@reddit
You forgot to mention the Nvidia fanboy for some reason.
noguarantee1234@reddit
Hes just miserable lol. Look at his comment history 😂
gounatos@reddit
I recently bought a 9070 XT. It cost around \~600 euros (after cashback and a promotional rebate).
I upgraded from a 3070 and so far, so good, no crashes, nothing. I play at 1440p. So far tried things like Cyberpunk, RDR2, Skylines 2 and TW: Warhammer 3.
My understanding is that a 5070 ti would have been equal or marginally better buuuuut the cheapest one right now costs 1000 euros, and at that price point I might as well spend 250 more for the 5080.
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
How was tw wh 3? Im REALLY interested in playin it
gounatos@reddit
It was fine, didn't notice anything
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
What settings did u play on? What cpu with that? And how much fps on average
gounatos@reddit
Ultra, everything on 1440p.
5800X
around 100 average FPS on the IE campaign map benchmark
and 140 in the battle one
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
Thats plenty, thanks
Temporary_Drawer9802@reddit
There are single Nvidia cards that have more market share than AMDs entire range*. Nvidia cards are flat out better, that's the cold hard truth.
That being said AMD deliver a lot of bang for your buck. If price is a consideration then AMD becomes a serious contender.
I have heard amazing things about gaming on Linux with AMD cards (they run even better). Now this has its own issues, Linux can't support most anti cheat so online competitive games dont work, but my lads new rig has a 9600XT and I'm absolutely setting it up with dual boot and a Linux gaming distro for steam.
*source: Steam hardware survey
Healthy-Tale7866@reddit
I mean, if you don't got the money you either save up or buy 9070xt. The problem is, people really like to promote amd gpus more than actually buying them, this is not the "pay less for the same perf" as people like to say, this is "you got what you paid for" kind of deal. Nvidia just has a better package, no matter how you look at it, 5070ti outperforms in any RT and PT workload, got better upscaler and FG, and especially got better RR.
bigkenw@reddit
Either card is good. The 5070ti is just more expensive amd the 9070xt usually marginally faster.
I have a 9070xt and the only issue I ever had was an HDR Dolby Vision one when Microsoft changed something in Windows. That was resolved but it took me a week to do it. Most of the issues people call out seem to be Windows related.
I have moved to Linux and not one problem. I play at 2k or 4k without issues. I usually play 2k just because my old eyes cant handle reading text at 4k on PC.
If you are thinking of moving to/testing out Linux, I would recommend AMD given support on Linux.
trinibeast@reddit
If you can’t afford the 5070ti, what’s the debate about? Just get what your budget allows
ixohoxi@reddit
My 9070XT on Crimson Desert, at 1440p, maxed out graphic settings, no upscale or frame gen, with ray reconstructed off gives me 120-150fps. Everything is smooth. Never crash once.
With RR on, I got 50-60fps. Significantly better reflection everything. But the fps hit is not worth it. But that's beside the point of this post.
Overall I'm very happy with this card and this game.
Zildjian134@reddit
I went back and forth with this and ended up getting the 5070ti . I can't compare it to the 9070xt because I've never used one, but I don't regret my decision one bit.
kcajjones86@reddit
I went from an RTX 3080 to an RX 9070 XT. My framerate went up considerably, my heat and power usage went down slightly. AMD drivers seem absolutely fine. No issues. Use Display Driver Uninstaller. Dont trust most people because they don't have a clue how to build a PC.
RareWestern8229@reddit
Think less about what others think and what you want. If you value rt in games then I would consider a regular 5070 over a 9070xt, because this card better suits your needs. If you want pure raw raster and some minor rt than the 9070xt can do that. Get the 9070xt and try the games for yourself and if you're not happy return it and get a different card
CaptainMGN@reddit
What? The XT has better rt performance on average than the 5070 non-Ti
RareWestern8229@reddit
I never explicitly stated the 5070 has a better rt card than the 9070xt, I stated "If he valued rt than he should consider the 5070 instead" both perform similarly in games and in games that utilize path tracing, the 5070 is still superior. I don't know what market op is in but generally the 5070 is cheaper than the 9070xt
CaptainMGN@reddit
But they don't perform similar in games? The XT is quite a bit faster in everything that isn't path tracing and there's not a lot that fully uses that (and at that point the 12gigs on the 5070 are another matter). But yeah the price difference will be an important factor. Not sure what OP is willing to spend there
Fearless_Anything_76@reddit
If you’re happy to pay the extra the 5070Ti is a better GPU but definitely not as good of a value proposition.
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
Do i get 5070 or 9070xt
Anon0924@reddit
9070xt unless you care about ray tracing.
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
Is rt bad on 9070xt? Or is it good just bot better than the 5070?
Fedmurica2@reddit
Ray tracing is the same image quality on both but performs a bit worse on AMD cards. However, 9070XT has so much more power (like 30% better) that it still perfoms better with Ray Tracing on.
Even the 9070 non-XT performs better than the 5070 with some Ray Tracing games like Resident Evil 4 remake and F1.
Anon0924@reddit
It’s fine, but Nvidia does it a bit better. (10-20% difference between the 5070 and 9070xt.) Nvidia’s also better in non-gaming tasks, but the 9070xt has more VRAM and better raw performance.
ImportantSurprise497@reddit
i think its good but yeah probably not better than 5070, for exemple with my 9070 xt i played cyberpunk 2077 ultra with raytracing ultra 1440p at around 160 fps but with fsr quality and fram gen
prank_mark@reddit
Even that's bull shit. The 9070 XT is still better than the 5070 in ray tracing. It's very close the 5070 Ti in fact. The only thing the 5070 is better at is professional workloads like 3d modelling and rendering and video encoding.
iTzJME@reddit
Between those two 9070xt 100%, people are downplaying it's rt capabilities, I run every game 1440p maxed out including raytracing and get great fps.
There's almost no reason to get a 5070 over a 9070xt imo a) unless you need cuda cores for work or b) unless you can find the 5070 for decently cheaper than the 9070xt.
Fearless_Anything_76@reddit
Wait you said 5070Ti not 5070. If it’s the 5070 12gb you should definitely go for the 9070XT. No question. If it’s the 5070Ti 16gb then I would buy that IF the price is not an issue.
phoogkamer@reddit
The normal 5070 is clearly worse. The 9070XT competes with the 5070Ti.
Caswagna93@reddit
Ive had a 9070 XT Hellhound since launch and its been great. Drivers are stable. RT performance is good, not quite matching Nvidia, but certainly good. I just played thru Cyberpunk with RT on Ultra (or High..) and FSR 4 quality and was getting 80+ FPS at 1440-. The card will boost to 3300mhz just by undervolting the core. I played some indiana jone at 100+ FPS on High and Beat FF7 Rebirth and that also was well over 100 FPS.
Oeds_Vlogt@reddit
The 9070XT has been a mix for me. It runs games and video's very well, image quality is amazing and with my build it runs very smooth. The only problem I have is the drivers are messing with my audio and the only fix is deleting the 9070 drivers which in turn makes my screen look like the worst thing ever. I don't know if it's just something I did wrong but it keeps making popping sounds and nothing so far has worked besides just not using the actual drivers needed.
Teavangelion@reddit
I don't suppose it could have anything to do with your motherboard's wifi adapter?
I didn't realize my motherboard's BT was embedded in the thing. I thought I didn't need it because I have ethernet. But the sound through my BT headset was a crackling, stuttering mess until I figured out the issue. Now it sounds perfect.
Oeds_Vlogt@reddit
I have a wifi antenna but the crackling happens wether it's plugged in or not. I'm 99% sure it's the GPU drivers that are causing this but I also can't find any sollution yet. I might have to just deal with it until it gets fixed.
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
Its probably gonna get fixed soon or worked around Thanks for answering
-lethifold-@reddit
Playing gow in 2k ultra settings around 200 fps rn. Think whatever you like.
decaxxx@reddit
There's like about 1000-1100 PLN difference between 5070 Ti and 9070 XT, right? From what I've seen and got replied here, unless you are not doing AI, heavy video editing, Blender or other specific productivity programs, you are better off with 9070XT. 1000PLN is huge difference. If you don't have 4K PLN for alternative, relatively stable job or patience or everything above, you're sticking with 9070XT, or you're downgrading from there.
_Xee@reddit
The question is - do you want to sponsor megacorporations fighting hardware ownership, sucking up to dictators, bribing governments, watching and recording your every step and thought?
No? Buy used.
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
I thought about it but isnt it kinda risky?
VoraciousGorak@reddit
/r/hardwareswap has never let me down.
gokufire@reddit
Where is a reliable place to buy used?
VoraciousGorak@reddit
/r/hardwareswap
Betawolf63@reddit
Honestly it's a lot of rng it comes down to your pc and specific combination of hardware and much more but for me I'm not having any issues with crimson desert running max settings with ray tracing and at 4k not a single crash yet for me.
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
Alright then the streamer guy gotta an nvidia fanboy
keelo582@reddit
The difference in general performance between the two cards is like 5%, really not worth the extra cash. Crimson Desert is not optimized...at all, and performance largely depends on what settings and upscaling are used. I've seen it crashing on 5090's.
The truth is, you're gonna have die hards that build pc's to see just how much performance they can get. Getting the newest, highest price item isn't necessary to game. I will say nvidia upscaling tends to be better but it isn't always necessary and sometimes worsens performance. Drivers are drivers. Sometimes they're terrible on both ends but they always recover.
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
Okay thanks man
gakule@reddit
Upgraded from 6700 XT to 9070 XT playing 1440p (5120x1440) and it has handled everything I've thrown at it with ease, and very stably being undervolted.
I haven't had any driver issues except for Windows installing a driver over top of the AMD driver from time to time but I don't know if that's really a knock against AMD.
Holiday_Bug9988@reddit
Depends on the games you play and it could be different for everyone. I have a 9070 XT and don’t have driver issues with any game except for Battlefield 6 to where it crashed so often I stopped playing the game. My friend that I always played with also had a 9070 XT and did not have those issues. I recently started playing again and it seems to be fixed now, but it was frustrating when it was occurring. Every other game was perfect.
However even NVIDIA can have driver issues sometimes too, and it actually seems to be happening more with the 5000 series than it did with previous generations. So if you can afford a 9070 XT just get it. If you have issues in the games you’re playing you can return it and keep saving up for a 5070 Ti. If you don’t have issues then you’ll have a great card that performs almost as well and save a good chunk of money.
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
Alright thanks man
gakule@reddit
Want to tack on to this and say I've been playing BF6 from launch and have had very few crashes
Marty5020@reddit
Try a respectable channel like this one:
https://youtu.be/slDaLG_m2Mo?si=xrpapSjhqaIB2J_T
Looks pretty damn good and stable to me.
Tyrell_James@reddit
If you don't have the money then get something lower priced and live with it, or live without it until you can save up more money (or wait for the ai hype bubble to pop and prices to go down). Lots of graphics settings and tweaks can be lowered and disabled to get you to a good enough framerate without really compromising the look of the game. Lots of graphics features and gimmicks make a pretty marginal "break out the magnifying glass and compare screenshots" difference relative to their performance demand.
nVidias much bigger market share and relationships with devs mean that, even if for kinda bullshit reasons, it tends to have better driver support. But AMD provides a lot of console hardware. I wouldn't stress it too much is the AMD card is significantly better value. Those problems tend to get patched and have workarounds.
Also some games are just badly optimized and no amount of horsepower will really fix their problems except waiting for patches.
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
Thanks, thats a really well composed answer
Funny-Carob-4572@reddit
5070ti is slightly better at gaming, but not the 200 quid difference on the UK market .
If they were within 50 quid, yeah 5070ti but not the silly nividia prices imo
Feeling-Affect8929@reddit (OP)
Its at minimum 250 in poland 💔💔
MurdererMagi@reddit
I really like my 5070ti and the path tracing and ray tracing is really awesome not to mention by fall we will have dlss 5. But both are great cards tbh.
WherePoetryGoesToDie@reddit
Get it and if it doesn't live up to your expectations, return it.
That said, I'd rather trust a well-established, respected tech reviewer like HUB over some streamer.