Nissan's Next GT-R Will Be a Hybrid, Keep the VR38 Block, and Arrive by 2030
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Posted by speedinsh1t@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 173 comments
flatpetey@reddit
They said in C&D maybe starting at 120K. Like they are vastly overestimating its cache versus a Corvette.
wiscotangofoxtreat@reddit
Lol theyre going to release a 2007 car as new in 2030
memymomeddit@reddit
This sub is fuckin' exhausting. Read the article, people.
narwhal_breeder@reddit
Pandikuthira said the R36 “has to be” on a new chassis and “it’s going to be an all-new car.”
memymomeddit@reddit
hey look, someone read the article
7ECA@reddit
Don't worry. They'll cancel the project in 2029
The3rdbaboon@reddit
This sub is frequented by a lot of stupid people but this has to be one of the dumbest takes I’ve seen.
On what planet does same engine block = same entire car?
Have you ever seen that meme that looks like a bad pencil drawing of a guy drooling? That’s literally you.
wiscotangofoxtreat@reddit
Have you seen the 400z?
Id rather it be electric than have that pos platform come back
Ok-Response-839@reddit
r/cars when Nissan announces a brand new supercar platform: 😭😭 nooo we liked it better when cars were raw and rowdy
r/cars when Nissan release the new Z on the FM platform: 😡😡 old platform sucks!!!
I track an M2 and a Z. The M2 is much faster and more capable, but the Z is a fucking riot that drives like a big turbo Cefiro.
EfficientTourist7480@reddit
How is this different than corvette releasing a corvette in current year?
bearfan15@reddit
This would be like making the c6 for 20 years and then announcing that the new Gen is a c6 hybrid.
Ok-Response-839@reddit
Except the C6 didn't dominate every single supercar when it came out?
Cessnaporsche01@reddit
They sorta did that. The underpinnings of the C5, 6, and 7 were all more or less identical so, for 23 years, you could buy a car with effectively the same chassis and engine, just with updated body and interior, and iterated improvements to the suspension setup and engines.
Drzhivago138@reddit
What commonality does the C8 have with older models?
PanadaTM@reddit
A c6 and c8 are the same car?
Quizzie@reddit
It tracks. They've already released a 2003 car in 2022. Give it a power boost, stiffen the chassis a little, update the steering to a numb EPAS unit, and you have your "brand new" Nissan
RIP_Soulja_Slim@reddit
Nissan Z fanboys shook at this rhetoric...
Quizzie@reddit
They're sensitive. I fucking love the Z lineage including this one, but we have to be honest with ourselves. The Z33 chassis, while offering nice feedback, was never the greatest performer. It was a little beefy and did well despite its weight. Bulking up an old chassis and giving it numb steering isn't going to do wonders for its flaws.
At this point they should've kept the hydraulic steering unit.
RIP_Soulja_Slim@reddit
Agree, I don’t think it’s a bad car but there’s absolutely no reason why a Z should be weighing as much as it does when the turbo engine is slightly lighter with all components than the old VQ was. The car is a porker for really no good reason.
I may be biased because I own a Supra, but if BMW can make a two seater that’s ~3300-3400 lbs then Nissan should be able to do the same. It’s not like modern BMWs are known for lightness lol.
roman_maverik@reddit
Nissan only has one RWD car platform, the FM platform.
The 350z and GT-R both share it (as well as all Nissan and Infiniti cars since 2002)
The FM platform isn't really the issue, considering both of those cars were awesome
Innocent-Bystander94@reddit
This is what r/cars has literally been begging for though. Old cars available new.
wiscotangofoxtreat@reddit
Not like this
Bderken@reddit
Yup, just a bunch of complainers. New platform: it’s going to be unreliable!!! Old platform: selling the same thing over and over again!
It’s like video game “fans” lol
TheRoyalStig@reddit
As another person that follows both things... this is so true. It's the exact same nonsense and it's crazy how similar the conversations really are.
k0fi96@reddit
It's not the conversations, it's the platforms. The way algorithmic social media works the complaints bubble to the top and praise does not.
TheRoyalStig@reddit
It's not just the complaints, but also the very particular kind of way people talk about things.
But I think that's more that i'm surprised by just how bad at critical thinking people are even in the most basic of ways. Like, obviously that's going to be a thing but places like this make it clear just how widespread it is to a shocking degree sometimes haha.
k0fi96@reddit
Think of the dumbest person you know, half of the world is dumber than that. They all have internet access
NorCalAthlete@reddit
And then realize the unemployment rate is like 8% and that explains all your coworkers.
Velocister@reddit
Algorithmic social media plays on the fact that humans are innately biased towards negativity which is why those always boil upwards.
Someone agrees with you? Cool keep moving on. Someone disagrees with something you believe it? Have to prove why they are wrong!
Bderken@reddit
It’s true for every new tech. I have a philosophy, most humans are like this and won’t ever appreciate new things making them harder to connect with the new generation.
I always enjoy the latest things. The world just made it and it’s going to keep making them. New engineers, new employees, etc are going to keep making them. You’re going to look back to today and see how great things were. So just do it now
cubs223425@reddit
Yes, but not like the GT-R has done it, increasing the price from $70K-ish to over $120K by the end of its production run, despite not having to do new R&D, tooling, and other such things other companies do faster to make new generations. Where other companies were able to product better cars for less monewy, Nissan just increased the price 80% without anywhere near the amount of work.
Bderken@reddit
Reddit comment slop
cubs223425@reddit
80 IQ child without an argument comment slop
Bderken@reddit
Argument: This GTR, even the 2012 one, will be higher than any class car you ever buy. So you’re writing all that shit for no reason. Complaining for no reason. That was my original comment, you wrote slop for no reason.
Recoil42@reddit
Reddit: Oh my god the ZR1X it's so good im cumming oh my god it's so good.
Also Reddit: Nissan hybridizing the GTR? Sus ruined oh my god terrible cancer oh my god sus.
charles_peugeot405@reddit
It’s almost like there are different people with different opinions using the same platform
Recoil42@reddit
No way what different people? We're not all me?
Bderken@reddit
Also:
Reddit: OMG ZR1X is killing all the super cars
Corvette Reddit: honestly only my C1-7 Corvette is a genuine corvette because I overpaid for it and can’t stand there’s another gen of corvette that’s actually way better. So the C8 doesn’t feel like a real corvette to me
Bamres@reddit
My favorite thing about this is people who seem to be obtuse about the reasons why they don't make old cars such as safety and also seem to think that the exact specific car they want is the one a company will tool up production for. Like people compare it to rereleasing vinyls or something and not a giant machine with 1000 different components that need tooling.
wiscotangofoxtreat@reddit
Not like this boat. Not like this.
Turclebo123@reddit
Yea everyone bitching about the new z and it’s like driving a modern time machine which is exactly what car I wanted, it’s not perfect but it feels like an old z with modern interior
cubs223425@reddit
Not when a car from 10+ years ago increases in price from $72K at release to over $120K at the end of its life, only to get brought back at probably whatever unreasonable price they opt for.
_The_Real_Sans_@reddit
Tbf they did improve it a lot year over year (at least moreso than most other sports cars).
cubs223425@reddit
In the context that most every other car gets a new generation in that time, I suppose, but if you put a 2007 GT_R next to other 2007 sports cars, then did the same for the 2024 variant, you could easily see the 2024 crowd being more competitive at lower prices.
The Challenger, Camaro, and Mustang all got much better ocer those 15+ years than the GT-R, with a $75K ZL1 comparing very well to a GT-R that sold near $120K. The C8 was touted as a GT-R tier level of value when it launchhed at $60K, and even its higher price gives you something very attractive.
Hence why I'm so against when people try to argue about inflation with the GT-R. The rest of te world made entire new product lines in the time the GT-R stuck around, yet they didn't claim in price as hard at the GT-R.
Innocent-Bystander94@reddit
$72k on 2007 is worth $110k in 2025. It didn’t end up all that more expensive at the end of its life.
cubs223425@reddit
The notion that everything in the universe is some kind of straight inflation calculation is mind-numbingly ignorant. Every other OEM manages to do multiple generations of cars, meaning new R&D, tooling, and general improvements that aren't in the costs of continuing to roll out he same GT-R.
Put the $120K GT-R next to other products that cost less, like a Hellcat or a ZL1 Camaro or even multiple variants of the C8 Corvette. The market is much more price-competitive AND performance-competitive than it was when the GT-R released. Inflation is not a justification for the price increases in any way.
A 2017 LT Camaro was $27K. That comes to about $35K in 2024, by inflation. That's not what the 2024 cost, it was only $32.5K, about 10% below the rate of inflation. $72K in 2007 was $85K in 2017. The 2017 GT-R wasn't $85K, it was almsot $112K. It was more than 30% of inflation in its price increases.
WigginIII@reddit
Except it will have some huge annoying screen that compromises the interior, and cannibalizes all of the buttons into said screen.
At least that’s what /cars will say.
BruceBaller@reddit
And if it doesn't do that, they'll say there aren't any updates to justify the price and it's an incredibly dated interior
cubs223425@reddit
Is it unreasonable to say a car from 15+ years ago shouldn't double in price when every other OEM has become more performance- and price-competitive in that time?
BruceBaller@reddit
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm poking fun at the fact that r/cars as a whole tends to have very contradicting opinions to the point where it seems like you can't make car enthusiasts happy no matter what you do. It's where the brown manuelle wagon meme came from lol
k0fi96@reddit
The new Z has a great interior.
0621Hertz@reddit
I don’t think anyone wants “old cars available new” just not to spit in the face of the company’s own legacy just for short term profit and satisfying BS market research.
Far_Chocolate_8534@reddit
I would buy a brand new 3rd gen 4Runner right now if I could.
BicycleMage@reddit
I want old cars available new.
parker2020@reddit
Pulled this out of your ass bro…
wiscotangofoxtreat@reddit
Am I the nissan cfo?
F0rbiddenD0nut@reddit
I mean, this is the same company that was still selling the 1992 Sentra as new in 2017 (Nissan Tsuru), so it tracks.
Righteous-Fist@reddit
A $69,000 car soon on sale for $250k probably.
mustangfan12@reddit
It most likely needs a new chassis for the hybrid system
Its ok to reuse the engine, BMW has been making the N63 since 2008 and refined it overtime
RT023@reddit
Nissan doing nissan things, lmao
Innocent-Bystander94@reddit
I hope the added weight doesn’t affect the cornering ability. The GT-R has always been an absolute monster in the corners. Though the R35 was also heavy for its time and Nissan figured that out just fine, so I have hope. From what I recall the NC1 and NC2 NSX cornered well, so there’s hope.
Can’t wait
YalamMagic@reddit
The GTR has always been intentionally heavy. That's the point. Making a car heavy and compensating with AWD, large tires and advanced electronics makes the car easy to drive. The goal of the GTR is to give the average Joe the ability to be fast and feel like a racecar driver. Weight is good in that context.
RiftHunter4@reddit
The GT-R ended as a nearly 4,000lb vehicle. It never hindered it and I think we're at a point where weight is no longer an impossible problem for handling. It is, however, a driving dynamics issue. Reviewers haven't liked some of the heavier cars because of how they feel. That said, I don't know anyone who wants a GT-R be cause of how it feels.
cerberaspeedtwelve@reddit
I've never driven a GT-R, but the party line seems to be that it was designed to break records around the Nurburgring, and not necessarily to be the last word in handling or driver engagement.
I also read a review from a guy who bought a new one when they came out (2009?) and traded it in for a Porsche Boxster six months later because it felt so much more alive.
RoyShavRick@reddit
Yeah the GT-R felt awesome because of how awe inspiring and unique it's handling was. That's where its appeal has always been. In the very specific GT-R way it drove and doled out performance.
mustangfan12@reddit
As long as the hybrid battery isn't super big it shouldn't increase weight too much
parker2020@reddit
They can do what Porsche does and make it an e turbo hybrid. Doesn’t add much weight
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
As it would go hybrid, I don’t think they able to make it less weight. Of corse, this’s all problem for all current automakers.
unkindledphoenix@reddit
i think Nissan needs to try and being back a V8 car even if for Infinity while the engine config is not outright banned by the emission zealots in europe.
ALaLaLa98@reddit
I can't help but feel like Nissan is really rushing this. Just last year, you could still buy an R35 brand new. Nissan has been struggling financially for years. If I had to guess, I'd say they probably haven't been actively workin on the R36 for long, yet say stuff like in the next five years. The first design concept for the R35 was unveiled in 2001, 6 years before the R35 was actually available to buy. I feel like Nissan just desperately wants a win, and they're scrambling to get it, but I don't see how that approach is going to nail the R36.
Caca_Face420@reddit
It’s the same story as the 35. The R36 has been in production for over 10 years now. The Hyperforce, which was always intended to be the first prototype, is three years old now. 2030 is right
ALaLaLa98@reddit
I doubt the hyperforce was ever meant to actually evoke the R36. If I had to guess, I'd say what the R36 ends up being will look nothing like that.
Caca_Face420@reddit
The Hyperforce is a fully electric 1,000 hp prototype. If they confirmed they are going to keep the VR38 and go hybrid instead of fully electric. I’m thinking the final product will be somewhere in-between the hyperforce and the r35 in looks, have around 700hp and be priced just under $200k.
ALaLaLa98@reddit
I don't know if these numbers are impressive enough today. The R36 needs to be able to beat the C8 Vette in performance, or at least match it, but cost considerably less.
Caca_Face420@reddit
Which version of the C8? The Z06 has 670hp and It’s a fools errand to try and chase the ZR1X because the platform will never be mass produced to the scale that made the ZR1X profitable to produce. Handmade engines, brand recognition and scarcity is enough push the value up.
The R35 was essentially perfect, which is why it hung around as long as it did. The R36 needs to be just a little bit better than the R35 to be successful which probably means a 0-60 time two seconds or less, which is possible with hybrids, and improve on the track, which will be interesting to see because it’s going to weigh more.
ALaLaLa98@reddit
^(You know which one.)
The GTR has to wipe the floor with everyone else.
BroccoliVendetta@reddit
I tracked a GTR Nismo - the turbo lag is real. If they pull off a hybrid that eliminates the lag this might be a hit
rosd0@reddit
When it comes to the GT-R, I trust Nissan.
throwawaymask01@reddit
Nissan may be in trouble for a few decades but holy shit, when it comes to sports cars engines, they don't just design something that works, they design fucking legends.
The stuff they make end up as tunning industry's backbones, and the VR38 was no exception.
The R35 still kicks some serious ass.
Sarah_hussain09@reddit
The latest Nissan Z begs to differ. Engine is lame honestly.
rosd0@reddit
How is the VR30 in the Nissan Z lame, lol? You can get alot of power out of them. A FBO VR30 gets higher hp than a B58. The transmission can also handle alot of power.
Sarah_hussain09@reddit
Some Built b58s are running in the mid 7s. Quickest vr30 barely cuts under a 9 lol. If you talk aftermarket B58 wins all day long. And a stock block B58 handles more power than a VR30 lol.
For a stock engine the vr30 is sucks and so many other turbo 6s. Something like a LT1 from Chevrolet sounds better, has more torque, more power, same efficiency, and actually sounds good. Not to mention much cheaper to buy a car with it new.
At least something like a B58 can get 30-40mpg on the highway and mid 20s combined while running low 12s in the 1/4 mile. Not that I like the b58 either but at least it's unique
aviciiavbdeadpunk@reddit
Just get it on 65mph 8 gear eco proand you'll get the 40mpg in the mlite
Sarah_hussain09@reddit
How in the world can the VR38 be considered the best ICE ever made? Lol
I'd love to know what makes it so good because in stock form the power, sound, efficiency, etc is not even that impressive anymore. When it launched it was great but it was basically irrelevant by the end of its run.
I think many would agree for a 6+ figure car there are better ice engines. And I'm sure that list by majority vote would be N/A and supercharged and not turbocharged lol
rosd0@reddit
I said the VR38 is one of the best, not automatically the single best.
And honestly, that shouldn’t even be controversial. It’s race proven, championship proven, tuning proven, holds huge power, has a massive aftermarket, and stayed relevant for years because it actually delivers. Not because of nostalgia, not because of internet hype, but because the engine is just that good.
Some engines sound better. Some are more exotic. Great. The VR38 still has one of the best combinations of stock performance, tuning ceiling, durability, and real-world results of any modern ICE.
That’s why people still rate it so highly. Results matter more than feelings.
Sarah_hussain09@reddit
Well if we're talking about results a stock LT7 from GM makes double the power and torque in stock form. And talking aftermarket, N/A engines like the Dodge viper able to run 6s on a stock block.
GTR and VR38 are a value play for people to buy and try to compete in the 1000-2000hp cars. It's overhyped because it used to be a great value car and engine. But saying a VR38 is the best or even one of the best of all times is pushing it since you're talking about aftermarket performance. With enough money and time you can quite literally make most engines as good.
From a stock perspective, what makes it so great though? Especially for the last 5-10 years it was on sale? Because power, torque, sound, efficiency, responsiveness, cost, etc are clearly not it since Porsche and other manufacturers were doing it better. Not to mention cars like the C8 releasing for a fraction of the price while offering near Vr38 stock performance
Innocent-bystandr@reddit
What technology exists now that they couldn't have put in the GT-R in the past two decades?
SylverShadowWolve@reddit
Hybrid tech has definitely gotten better since 2008 and you can't just stick some batteries and electric motors in a chassis already in production, it requires re-engineering
rosd0@reddit
Maybe they wanted it to be pure. I don’t know. What we do know is the R36 will be a completely new platform and optimised for hybrid.
thetimechaser@reddit
Can we please just have a scrap of "affordable" sports car
RoyShavRick@reddit
Theres many sport compacts and the GR86 we know for a fact is continuing. As well as the Miata. Not to mention that M cars and old Porsche's will always be present as a backup if nothing does it for you.
Idk many great cars out there, you have to look.
thetimechaser@reddit
I meant from Nissan specifically. The unceremonious killing of the IDX project is when I basically pushed them out of my mind entirely (up until that point I had owned a string of S chassis and was currently driving a 350z), and I only just recently picked up another S chassis to push my driving further as my ae86 is in its final form.
I yearn for them to go toe to toe with the GR86.
ohnosevyn@reddit
The IDX was killer, I bet I would have bought that in 2012 instead of my FRS
thetimechaser@reddit
I was geared up to trade my Z in for one then when they axed it I just took a step back from fun cars for a few years until I could afford a dedicated drift car and a tow rig.
Honestly for the better personally. I probably woulda wrecked a car the bank owned lol
ohnosevyn@reddit
That’s cool! I have a Titan XD 5.6 and FRS.
thetimechaser@reddit
ZN6 chassis is on the list for me but I’ve got my hands full at the moment. BEAMS 86 is an absolute party car but I don’t wanna ruin it with more power so I’m putting together my s chassis. Jzx100 is my weekend car that can also drift when I’m too lazy to load the trailer. Tundra pulls all the junk around when it’s broken lol
ohnosevyn@reddit
That’s awesome to hear and expensive lol. I’d like to add an MR2 to the fleet and a Honda Fit.
thetimechaser@reddit
FIT is goated dude do it. A bunch of my friends have them and are trying to convince me to add one hahaha
ohnosevyn@reddit
It really is. Now stop telling people because they are only getting more expensive
RoyShavRick@reddit
I meant old M cars or old porsches, but yeah I do agree the loss of a 240SX or Silvia is annoying
KSoMA@reddit
I thought the 86 and the Miata were sorta kinda becoming the same car?
RoyShavRick@reddit
Nah. Apparently they will be on a co developed platform but the 86 has always been a 2+2
KSoMA@reddit
Okay that makes sense, so the 86 will effectively kinda be a LWB Miata then with enough space for putting people you hate in the back.
RoyShavRick@reddit
I suspect they may also have like a different powertrain and stuff
triplevanos@reddit
The GTR was affordable for around 3 years, 2007-2010. And even then, it launched at $69,000 in 2007. That was certainly a bargain, but still is around $108,000 in today's money.
biguk997@reddit
Kinda makes the C8 an even crazier bargain in the 60s. Thats like 40k in 2007 dollars
megacookie@reddit
I think the Corvette is the counter argument to the point that the GT-R's price creep was entirely necessary due to inflation. It was also rather stagnant in performance since around 2012 or 2017 latest, even the Nismo variant was a massive cost increase for a 30hp bump and an aero kit that would be like $10k tops on a Corvette.
40GallonsOfPCP@reddit
Downvote me or whatever but I am just not a fan of hybrid sports cars. Very similar as the auto vs manual argument, I understand that slapping a 9 speed dct or a few electric motors around the car will make numbers look better, but comes at a consequence of losing the character of the root sports car in my opinion. ICE all the way for my sports cars please
WhateverItTakes117@reddit
Is the issue actually the hybrid part, or the DCT part? Seems like a hybrid with a manual would be the same as ICE but much better throttle response, etc. But the only one I can think of is the CRZ, lol
Caca_Face420@reddit
The R35 was already exclusively a DCT, so yes. The issue is the Hybrid system. There or more hybrid sport cars that have failed then have succeeded.
WhateverItTakes117@reddit
Not talking about financial success. I was talking about the previous postser's thoughts on what "feels" like a sports car. Because with almost 100% certainty, you wouldn't be able to tell if a manual transmission, modern sports car was hybrid or not by driving it. And if you couldn't tell by driving it, then it proves the whole idea that "hybridizing ruins sports cars" is just pretentious bullshit.
DCT however, has a completely different driving experience than manual.
nujabes02@reddit
Frankly the gtr is a technology platform in the first place imo so it fits it actually.
Twombls@reddit
When you look at initial reviews for the r35 it was pretty much universally criticized for being a sports car without a soul.
trickedx5@reddit
I remember that top gear episode.
theflash1234@reddit
Exactly! Back when it was new I remember everyone saying it felt like playing a PlayStation. It just did things amazingly without much human challenge.
Now all the reviews says it’s so mechanical, you can hear all the mechanical noises and it’s so analog.
mustangfan12@reddit
It depends on how the hybrid system works. A mild hybrid system won't change driving dynamics much, a mostly EV system like the Honda hybrids will definitely take character away
Salt-Plankton436@reddit
Honda NSX still seems cool to me
CuddleTeamCatboy@reddit
The initial reviews for the R35 complained that it lacked character and was too computerized compared to Corvettes and Porsches. If you want a traditional driving experience, the GT-R isn’t the car for you.
TripleShotPls@reddit
Swear I read a review (... now ages ago, so who knows where) at one point that said it felt soulless unless you pushed it. If pushed, something emerged. Which, would make sense given the high level of tech for that car and the need to extract from it. But who knows. Still agree with most other comments here that it's always been a technological platform for the company.
FukushimaBlinkie@reddit
I believe that was pretty much Clarkson take on top gear
tinyman392@reddit
To add to this, I think the R34 had the same initial too computerized view too. A lot of GTRs kind of had that since Nissan really was pushing tech with each generation.
crimusmax@reddit
I, too, prefer ICE in cars that I will never be able to own
CMDR_omnicognate@reddit
I actually wonder how drastically it would affect the driving characteristics of a GTR anyway. I’ve not driven one but my understanding is they’re quite… clinical, anyway, if any car was going to be a big power kinda bloated hybrid sports car it makes sense it would be a GTR.
Ninesixx@reddit
I bought one 5 years ago before kids. Brand new 2021. They definitely dont have much steering feel, but you can feel all the mechanical parts working. Its way more analog than something like an M3/M4. Theres random ticks and clunks from the powertrain that makes it feel raw. Minimal tech, so its just you and thr car. And that AWD system can make you feel like a hero, really incredible.
They might have felt futuristic in 2009, but by 2020s it felt like and older car.
parker2020@reddit
You say this but everyone I’ve talks to about the new 911’s would say you sound like someone who hasn’t driven a modern hybrid but a Prius
UndeadWaffle12@reddit
I’m just so bored of hybrids. I don’t even care if the performance is ass, just make it pure ice
Word_Underscore@reddit
I don't care how fast I go anymore, I care about how I feel and how much fun I have. I understand others have different needs, live closer to tracks, live more genuine motorsport lives and that's fine and I'm jealous, but I'm happy with a beater 4cyl and a manual gearbox under 3k lbs
EfficientTourist7480@reddit
I think the main reason is these cars continue with big engine performance but hit ever increasing emissions standards. The hybrid HP is a bonus on the performance front
Immediate_Bee_6472@reddit
What is the future of hybrid cars ?
Hybrid cars of the past never did well in the long term a ice car can be repaired cars with all this tech will fail and with technology moving so fast they are harder to repair or the cost to repair make it worthless
Every car with a hybrid battery will need to be replaced at some time and by then battery tech will be more advanced but it still won’t be cheap ..a cell fails now ur car is a brick a expensive one
Watching car YouTubers so far every hybrid car has been problems
Lexus (rich rebuilds) fixed it after Lexus gave up and thousands of dollars spent battery is like 8k but he found a way
Ferrari 296 (Matt Armstrong) can’t even get it to start bc of the hybrid system
Mc claren p1 (tavarish) is gonna cost another mc claren plus a lot of money to “fix” and I use fix loosely bc he’s going a different route bc of the battery price
Hybrid van (legit street cars) never got it to run right although it was a prototype just a nightmare
Noobasdfjkl@reddit
...have you ever heard of the Toyota Prius? There are still 2nd gens out there on original battery packs just racking up miles. Consumer Reports tested a 1st gen after 10 years, and found it was still producing fuel economy and acceleration figures well within standard deviation of a new car. They all have 10 year/150k warranties on the pack anyways, which is longer than most people keep/drive their cars anyways. So yeah, you can totally claim that hybrids have never done well in the long term if you only look at niche low production cars and discount the hybrid car of our lifetime.
rosd0@reddit
Yes, the warranty is correct for 10 years / 150.000miles. But we all know Toyota, many have exceeded those numbers by far. Owners have over 200.000miles on them with original battery. There was one taxi driver in his 2021 Camry hybrid with 427.000km with original battery (around 280.000 miles) and many online can also show to much higher mileage than 150.000 on their original hybrid battery.
Immediate_Bee_6472@reddit
The Prius is doing well more so become it’s cult following and people in places like cali where gas is insane and they commute pretty far daily
That’s literally one car tho there’s been tons of hybrids made and only the Camry and Prius are surviving bc there cheap commuter cars a hybrid sports car is not the same
rosd0@reddit
Hybrid battery in my Camry lasts 200.000-400.000 miles more or less. It costs 3-5k to replace, which is nothing. I get like 45-50mpg on a 13 gallon tank.
Immediate_Bee_6472@reddit
That’s not bad at all still 1/3 of the car value and that’s if it’s 9 years old or less …
rosd0@reddit
How is it 1/3 of the car value? Camry costs $30k new. Camry is probably in general the greatest car ever made all things considered. Affordable and extremely reliable.
Immediate_Bee_6472@reddit
It’s 1/3 of the value by time u need to replace the battery
Your not replacing the battery on a 2026 it’s gonna be 9 years old so a 2017 ..a 2017 Camry hybrid sells for around 15-17k with less than 100k miles ..less than 13 if it’s over 100k miles now the battery is literally 1/3 of the cars value at 5k
I’m not sure if green beam or whatever will carry batteries for a gtr only time will tell
I do kno that batteries for sports cars are expensive
thatguy11m@reddit
Well, no need to downgrade to downsize to a V6 when you're already there. This is honestly the best option for a brand arguably in market trouble globally. Work through what you have that works.
What I do hope is that the car itself is more of a modern jump than the Z34 -> RZ34
ProduceNo1629@reddit
Who cares by the end it became just another legoland toy for the ultra rich with absurd $250K price tag.
Missile450DeadCenter@reddit
I'm tired boss
speedinsh1t@reddit (OP)
I just hope that hybridization doesn't ruin the car. It seems that making a car hybrid is hit or miss but it is better than being fully electric
Recoil42@reddit
Famously the Porsche 918, Ferrari LaFerrari, and McLaren P1 were all ruinous for their respective manufacturers.
Noobasdfjkl@reddit
Porsche and Ferrari were at their then-peaks as companies, and McLaren was in a really good place to put out a car to prove themselves among the big boys.
We're like 3 years on from Nissan being in maybe their worst place in their history, and they're still in a pretty bad spot. The situations are not even remotely the same.
Recoil42@reddit
Nissan's business fundamentals aren't really germane to the discussion of whether hybridization 'ruins' performance cars. We're well past the point of entertaining that as a legitimate position. It's 2026 — the ZR1X, Porsche 911 Turbo S, Aston Valhalla, Ferrari F80, Lamborghini Revuelto, McLaren W1, Koenigsegg Regera, and Bugatti Tourbillon are all hybrized. We don't need to keep playing this silly "oh no will the hybrid ruin it" game.
Salt-Plankton436@reddit
You can't just state that these cars exist as proof that hybridisation isn't worse. I know I would take the old version of every single one of those.
Recoil42@reddit
Except yeah, you can. This is a representative democracy, the representatives are the automakers, the votes are dollars, and hybrids have been ratified.
What you think doesn't matter. That you personally have a luddite streak doesn't invalidate the general observation that hybrids are now the default and have widespread consensus support. You having a preference for naturally aspirated doesn't negate the reality that hybrids haven't been a controversial powertrain choice for well over twenty years now.
Salt-Plankton436@reddit
No you can't lol, that's simply faulty logic. With your logic, I could argue that TikTok is the best source of news because xyz news companies are using it. Source for "widespread consensus support"? Did you see the reaction and sales flop of the C63? You don't have to agree that hybridisation ruins performance cars but your claim was that "we're well past the point of entertaining that as a legitimate position" which is ridiculous and I and everyone who didn't like the new C63 is enough to debunk that immediately.
Recoil42@reddit
No one said 'best' anything, brother. Read words. Rub two brain cells together and focus on comprehension.
Salt-Plankton436@reddit
Ah, so they're not ruined by hybridisation but they're not the best and manufacturers are currently making not the best cars and despite them not being the best it is "past the point of entertaining [the idea they've been ruined] as a legitimate position"? Probably the only play left to completely avoid the rest of the comment lol.
Muttonboat@reddit
It wont. Its the new normal now and a proven tech
More and more super and performance cars are going hybrid and still being genuine performers.
Frlataway@reddit
The most recent GTR was basically a computerized driving experience that arguably took all the "soul" from the platform and refined it with computerization to make the best car. That's why it performed so well against supercars of the era.
If there was ever a car I wouldn't expect to suffer from electrification it's the GTR.
trickedx5@reddit
Isnt this a bankrupt company? What R & D money do they have?
Jonathan358@reddit
Nissan should die off gracefully...
If only they took Toyota's GR mantra they would have been more successful to date. It's clear their economy cars weren't paying the bills and they should have fired Carlos Ghosn before the scandal...
Bderken@reddit
Argument: This GTR, even the 2012 one, will be higher than any class car you ever buy. So you’re writing all that shit for no reason. Complaining for no reason. That was my original comment, you wrote slop for no reason.
AdvanceUsed2790@reddit
Old engine is fine. Added Battery is fine. Price near 200 thousand dollars, not fine.
egowritingcheques@reddit
Ohhh can't wait to buy the mid-cycle update of this in 2048.
costafilh0@reddit
Nice!
Weight: 3 tons
HP: over 9000
optitmus@reddit
it will be lightly reskinned + hybrid sitting at north of 4400 pounds. Numbers will be incredible. But many of us dont drive numbers
Salt-Plankton436@reddit
If it doesnt weigh 2700kg and sound like a hairdryer this is good news
ZaheerAlGhul@reddit
I'm more excited for the new Skyline to come. But this is also cool hopefully Nissan can make a full comeback so we can get new platforms.
SecretPantyWorshiper@reddit
And just like that, the legacy of the GT-R is gone. It will just be an expensive mid tier hybrid that is behind the competition. Wont be anything like the Corvette ZR1
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DooceBigalo@reddit
As long as something is coming makes me happy, knew it was something from an engineer on the Supra forums years ago.
TupacBatmanOfTheHood@reddit
If this actually releases I'll be so happy. Been slowly creating a fund to buy one for 10 years now.
mgobla@reddit
April fools?
xselimbradleyx@reddit
Same car, more power, and now 500lbs heavier. Yay
claspen@reddit
So 4000+ lbs confirmed, can we get it to 2 metric tons (4400+lbs)? /S
emp_mei_is_bae@reddit
Is nissan still even going to be around by then?
rosd0@reddit
Yes, they will. Japanese government always got their back.
TROGDOR_X69@reddit
as does the hood
TROGDOR_X69@reddit
Hybrid gets a BIG no
never will be a fan
Gizmuth@reddit
Nissan developed a very interesting and dominant electric motor design in formula E and I hope they use it in this gtr. It's so cool I wouldn't even be against an electric gtr I'm honestly surprised it's a hybrid but it's Nissan they make one engine and use it for 20years
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
They’ve many sports car ambitions, but we still doubt that happening. Nissan still hasn’t left its financial issue.