Even in space Microsoft still sucks
Posted by NegativePattern@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 339 comments
Commander Reid Wiseman sent a literal "Houston, we have a problem" message to mission control in the early hours of Thursday. He sought tech support for internet connectivity issues on a PCD (personal computing device), which is a Microsoft Surface Pro. Wiseman did try turning the device off and on again before requesting help, but that didn't resolve the problem.
NASA detected that the PCD was actually on a network. It asked the commander for permission to connect to the tablet remotely so it could look into a problem with the Optimus software. "I also see that I have two Microsoft Outlooks and neither one of those are working," Wiseman responded, per a clip shared by Niki Grayson on Bluesky. "If you wanna remote in and check Optimus and those two Outlooks, that would be awesome."
Link to the video
[https://x.com/MarcusHouse/status/2039579997976121779?s=20]
Starforce900@reddit
People here seem to be hung up on the name "personal computing device". It's not actually his personal device, lol. NASA has very specific acronyms and definitions for things. Houston wouldn't be able to remote into his real personal device if it was really a "personal personal device"
From Wired: "PCD stands for “Personal Computing Device”, which are specialized laptops or tablets, used by the Artemis astronauts to manage certain tasks, including accessing email clients, during the 10-day mission to the moon. PCDs are crucial for the four-person crew to interact with mission data and communicate during the historic lunar flyby, which will also take them further into space than any humans have gone before."
And NASA Source: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20230017638/downloads/1325_Melendrez_Orion%20Imaging%20Capabilities.pdf
CatProgrammer@reddit
"PC" literally just means "personal computer" too. As opposed to a shared server/mainframe that you connect to via a thin client.
_cheezehead_@reddit
I’m not saying you are wrong, but they keep me employed with their screwups lol
BisonThunderclap@reddit
New Outlook strikes again lol.
I also love that I know his pin. 3939
slowclapcitizenkane@reddit
Fucking New Outlook.
Fubared259@reddit
I have just the opposite. Classic has all kinds of issues but new works fine lol
WraithYourFace@reddit
Same. For what I need I like it better.
legacyproblems@reddit
Not sure what everyone is smoking here, new is has issues and I'm not going to argue which is worse, but let's be real, classic outlook is probably the worst software shipped in the office suite.
slowclapcitizenkane@reddit
I couldn't save much needed license files with new Outlook. I could with Classic.
That's a showstopper there. New Outlook is not ready.
legacyproblems@reddit
I'm not even sure what you are talking about or why you downvoted. Downloading XML attachments works fine in new outlook. Both are a heap of shit IMO.
slowclapcitizenkane@reddit
I didn't downvote your comment. I tried to save those attachments on multiple platforms. Classic worked, third party worked, new didn't.
slowclapcitizenkane@reddit
Well, I guess it's okay if you never have to deal with XML attachments or printing.
doggxyo@reddit
or PST files, or VBS for pulling attributes from AD for email signature uniformity
takku@reddit
Yeah gonna miss the VBS when I can't use the classic version anymore.
Cry_Wolff@reddit
It's embarrassing how many things are still missing from the "New" Outlook. It just sucks, I'd rather use Thunderbird.
cowprince@reddit
Simply flagging incoming emails isn't possible, it's ridiculous.
BlackV@reddit
what happens with printing ?
or XML for that matter?
slowclapcitizenkane@reddit
You can't save XML attachments at all. Great when you get license files in that format.
Printing was not working for several users. Switching back to classic solved it.
BlackV@reddit
... well now, that's a feature
Rambles_Off_Topics@reddit
It doesn't work with our O365 hybrid accounts...so pointless.
arthurno1@reddit
They can blame themselves. They knew what they were taking with them.
Nobody can convince me they couldn't put a pad or a laptop with custom Linux/Android that runs only stuff they need. They could have made two, one for the stuff at home and one for the crew in the space. Taking the cheap.way out with the stock OS and a shitty one too is just laughable.
linuxknight@reddit
I was about to say, Outlook New...Every.Fucking.Time.
Where I work we have about a dozen on premise clients. Quite often lately m365 or Windows updates, it drops in the fucking Outlook New and breaks the On-Premise relationship with Outlook Classic, prompting them to cloud login. It's like MS forgot tens of thousands of users still have on premise exchange servers.
Pimzino@reddit
But whyyyyy is my question to you, if your gonna go Microsoft atleast go cloud, why go shit for shit when you can just go shit
linuxknight@reddit
Old school ways of thought set inplace before my time. Im slowly getting clients moved to the cloud.
theindomitablefred@reddit
I recently decided to start using it and it’s so bad I still have to still use old Outlook half the time.
zomiaen@reddit
I think if you can get physical access to use it, you deserve it.
BMCBoid@reddit
I saw that to!
hihcadore@reddit
Can you just reboot the rocket?
bombatomba69@reddit
We've had a lot of sync file issues with Outlook, so I laughed extra hard at this one.
Every-Progress-1117@reddit
...at which point Clippy popped up.... "Hey it looks like you're going to the Moon!"
aes_gcm@reddit
That animated Einstein character would have a thing or two to say for sure.
linuxknight@reddit
There's a first time for everything!
LonelyPatsFanInVT@reddit
VNC into space is a hell of a Support drug
systemhost@reddit
I just checked and apparently they're using an Optical Communications System (O2O) using lasers that allow for a network downlink of ~260Mbps.
Apparently the uplink from earth is significantly slower at only ~20Mbps but still, that's way better than I expected given all I've read about older radio based communications.
LonelyPatsFanInVT@reddit
As a ham radio operator, the fact that you can talk to someone on the ISS on a 5 watt handheld had me sold on studying RF more.
aes_gcm@reddit
They move so fast, not only do you only have a few minutes but the Doppler effect is very real.
pawwoll@reddit
ahh fellow redstone flux user
linoleumknife@reddit
That is crazy impressive, you could literally remote desktop to a computer in space with that kind of bandwidth. Whoever at NASA tech support gets the honor of fixing the problem will have a story that beats anyone else's best IT story until they die.
Minimum-Albatross906@reddit
Yeah you can have bandwidth but the latency will kill you. Light time round trip for any signal, be it radio, laser, etc. is about 2.5 seconds to the moon, so you'll get some performance lag.
It should be more interesting when we go to mars. A signal there is 20 minutes on a good day.
yankeesfan01x@reddit
So they're literally using QuickAssist (or something like that) to remote in?
razorbeamz@reddit
The ping has to be several minutes though.
zajdee@reddit
Not really. If the signal travels ~150 thousand kilometers from the base station to the capsule (including relays), the round trip time would be approximately one second. Maybe two, if there are multiple relay hops around the Earth.
PhoenixVSPrime@reddit
It's also just crazy to me that even nasa space astronauts don't know how to sign into their outlook mailbox.
I always assumed that only the bottom denominator opens tickets for that stuff and here we are in the year 2026.
Vegetable-Ad-1817@reddit
Maybe 8 years ago we ran vnc over some crazy speeds down to 256kb/s and 1200ms RTT., downgrading its performance used to be easier and would actually perform better than highly compressed traffic like citrix. Now everything needs a relatively fat pipe and the oldschool protocols being abandoned
LonelyPatsFanInVT@reddit
Not to mention sending pws in plaintext.
PDQ_Brockstar@reddit
But did he submit a ticket?
scotty269@reddit
Uh oh, the satellite uplink is about to switch from North America to South Asia!!! Standby as the call is transferred to the Indian uplink.
Frido1976@reddit
Hello this is Microsoft, you seem to be having an issue with your computer, I would need to remote into your .... World's first scam in space?
aes_gcm@reddit
I need those CO2 scrubbers! Do not redeem!
Rocky_Mountain_Way@reddit
Yeah, exactly. I don’t care if you’re in space… no ticket, no fix.
kaishinoske1@reddit
That’s just protocol, because if there is no ticket. It didn’t happen, you calling about your problem didn’t happen.
Rocky_Mountain_Way@reddit
Plus, what if a site-visit is required? I’m not going to trans-lunar-injection orbit with my Honda CRV without getting compensated for the mileage… and mileage only gets compensated if there’s an open ticket.
Frido1976@reddit
And what about the food and resting? I'm requiring at least a four STAR hotel (pun intended)
hamburgler26@reddit
No ticket!
Nu-Hir@reddit
I should really put a sign on my door, "No ticket, no fixit"
FacebookBoomer2@reddit
I legit chuckled at this.
flyguydip@reddit
Only because neither version of Teams was working either.
Atillion@reddit
Hello, IT? I'm going to need you to drop everything and get up here now.
30yearCurse@reddit
Sorry, a judge has made me his personal IT assistant to click on Teams. Hopefully he will lose the election and I should be able to catch the next shuttle.
aes_gcm@reddit
I understood that reference.
Break2FixIT@reddit
Please send video, is it the one where the IT guy basically shrugged off the judge with a wide open fail smile?
30yearCurse@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1s5pzen/the_it_guy_fixes_the_problem_but_the_judge_still/
Break2FixIT@reddit
Yup that's it.. what happened!?
Wizdad-1000@reddit
Oh I get this. What a asshat of a judge. Saw he had another clip of almost arresting a lawyer yesterday.
YLink3416@reddit
Hangs up phone. "Ugh." Closes some tabs. Locks workstation. Gets in car heading to launch pad.
bobsmith1010@reddit
Artemis 3 will have an extra seat for an IT support tech.
Simmery@reddit
pulls out rocket from homelab
blademaster2005@reddit
Irl factorio
GreatRyujin@reddit
"Have you opened a ticket?"
digsmann@reddit
No pilot test for outlook before takeoff..
Next_Rip7462@reddit
Reid needs to stay off the free pron sites. Outlook is every sysadmin's cover story when they don't want to embarass the client any more than using Outlook does.
BlotchyBaboon@reddit
"Have you tried webmail, sir?" Open your browser and go to outlook dot office dot com. You know, while you're in space.
Jesus.
No_Dog9530@reddit
Actually the WEB URL is not longer so Simple.
Fallingdamage@reddit
theres the problem. Control forgot to tell them its outlook.cloud.microsoft now.
420GB@reddit
outlook.office365.com has been working for years.
squabbledMC@reddit
It redirects me to outlook.cloud.microsoft on my university email account lol. On my old junk Hotmail account it's outlook.live.com though.
JamesRustl3r@reddit
NASA would probably be outlook.office365.us
SirLoremIpsum@reddit
Isn't there a special one you can only access in space?
outlook.oortcloud.microsoft.com ?
enevgeo@reddit
Oortlook 365 (Classic)
TYO_HXC@reddit
Simply meteoric.
3506@reddit
Stellar performance issues.
North-Creative@reddit
As much as I angrily appreciate your great comment, I do hope (a little) that you stub your toe (very little), for connecting Oort with Microshit
SnakeOriginal@reddit
You gotta be shitting me...
Alaknar@reddit
All of their cloud products now live on the
cloudsubdomain. Andmicrosoftis now a legal TLD.JewishTomCruise@reddit
Outlook.office.com still works just fine
NegativePattern@reddit (OP)
Yea the original URLs continue to work. However, they will redirect you to outlook.cloud.office.com. Another one is teams.cloud.microsoft.com
JewishTomCruise@reddit
No, when it does redirect, which it doesn't do in all tenants/cases, it's to [product].microsoft.cloud.
GarageIntelligent@reddit
just copilot.outlook.com now
labratnc@reddit
So a DNS problem?!?
TechCF@reddit
Just outlook.microsoft actually
centizen24@reddit
That's only going to work for another week until they finish the changeover to copilot.outlook.copilot.microsoft-copilot.com/copilot
Haunting-Prior-NaN@reddit
THIS PISSES ME OFF TO NO BOUNDS!
We are now getting dumped into their shitty AI bot, and just try asking it how to connect to your email and it bombs you out with instructions on how to configure outlook.
SherSlick@reddit
outlook.cloud.microsoft
gotmynamefromcaptcha@reddit
.portal.copilot.office.com
No_Dog9530@reddit
No, it’s being changed as we speak progressively.
762_54r@reddit
The URL itself is an iterative process
JewishTomCruise@reddit
The URL is set at runtime by AI, and thus is non-deterministic. You just have to guess at what it might be in any given day.
bites_stringcheese@reddit
I'm dying. I haven't admin'd Office 361 in years, and I genuinely can't tell if these are all valid (or once valid) outlook domains.
meditonsin@reddit
Every time someone opens the URL, a new, random URL is generated.
1esproc@reddit
Did MS hire an HPE exec?
dano5@reddit
Or go to outlook.cmd.ms and ignore all others 🤷
tordenflesk@reddit
even shorter: https://mail.cmd.ms/
1esproc@reddit
Why would you build the habit of visiting your mail via a 3rd party domain?
tordenflesk@reddit
Because it never changes?, and allows search, direct links etc.
Built by Merill Fernando, a Product Manager at Microsoft
1esproc@reddit
Until it does, because you've introduced a new risk. Like how Google results at one point delivered ads that superseded real websites for products which delivered malware.
tordenflesk@reddit
You have the same at msportals.io which uses MS's aka.ms domain.
dano5@reddit
Nice 👍
And love your name 👌😂
Lurk3rAtTheThreshold@reddit
Outlook dot office dot com will still get you there
TotallyInOverMyHead@reddit
outlook . Cloud. microsoft
RabidTaquito@reddit
I was about to tell you to fuck off with your day-late jokes. Then I looked and wish I didn't. Fucking piece of shit Microslop.
Wizdad-1000@reddit
It is this on our doman. (Thankfully)
donjulioanejo@reddit
Does World Wide Web make sense if you're literally out of this world?
NoDoze-@reddit
But... he's outside the world wide web!
EveningNo8643@reddit
Ticket marked resolved
cdoublejj@reddit
Have you tried running SFC /SCANNOW?
Due-Communication724@reddit
Please do the needful
kayama57@reddit
“I’m going to go ahead and recommend that you download and install a fresh copy of windows in order to solve your problem with access to webmail”
qkdsm7@reddit
Buahahahahahahahahahaha
FurlockTheTerrible@reddit
Some people still use upvotes/downvotes the way they were intended to be used. If they thought "buahahahahahahahahahaha" didn't add anything meaningful to the conversation, that's why you were downvoted.
qkdsm7@reddit
Copy. I added it as meaning more than just upvoting the other comment , as I thought it was a spectacular funny point.
xixi2@reddit
I can't tell if this is a joke or what they really did
boy_bulabog@reddit
Microslop
Fluent_Press2050@reddit
I don’t think “space” is a named location for conditional access in MS365. Could be why Outlook doesn’t work.
Sufficient_Duck_8051@reddit
Why on earth are they using outlook in space ☠️
2cats2hats@reddit
And why windows? Unless they are running a bloat-free version or something?
badnamemaker@reddit
I mean it’s used everywhere for a reason, people are familiar with it. They’re not gonna make SpaceOS or something when the astronauts are probably working with m365 in their day to day 🤷♂️
accipitradea@reddit
> They’re not gonna make SpaceOS
As a child of a programmer of the LEM for the Apollo project, that's exactly what they did in the 60s.
TYGRDez@reddit
Well yeah, there weren't exactly a plethora of widely-used operating systems to choose from at the time.
accipitradea@reddit
I wonder how much Micro$lop paid for them to not use a *NIX OS.
Mirigore@reddit
Zero. You’re very cynical
1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v@reddit
cynical? You really don't understand how business works at the highest levels if you think deals aren't made regularly for what systems a company uses.
ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit
The fact that seemingly all of you keep missing the fact that this is his PERSONAL device is hilarious to me.
accipitradea@reddit
You don't think that we're on social media talking about a Microsoft Surface in Space and it isn't a paid sponsorship? We know it's his personal device, NASA absolutely could have provided him with a tablet with an open source OS with a library of .av1s so he could watch Netflix in space as well as a functional SMTP client instead of Outlook. It's clearly a marketing stunt, I could even be persuaded to think the technical issues were reported publicly as part of that marketing, though I doubt the issues were caused on purpose, but the only thing worse than bad press is no press.
thortgot@reddit
A technical issue as a marketing stunt? That's a truly terrible idea.
1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v@reddit
When Bill Gates debuted Windows 98, on stage, it blue-screened on him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGwy4sb9aO8
Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it...
thortgot@reddit
And that was intentional? Clearly not.
1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v@reddit
Sure, a PERSONAL device that he is getting OFFICIAL IT support for...
badnamemaker@reddit
Bro the internet is just full of professional haters at this point, this is why comment sections are becoming way more useless everywhere 😭
Mirigore@reddit
There is no way they're not running both; MS for end user computing and Linux on the rest. If I saw a Microsoft sponsor somewhere I'd be inclined to agree, but it seems like this is just a more powerful tablet for them or personal preference. I read somewhere that some of the crew members brought iPhones with too. I assume someone has a macbook or iPad somewhere as well.
mkosmo@reddit
Nothing.
The use of Windows on those tablets simply makes sense.
cosmin_c@reddit
And in 2026 they get to choose literally the worst option possible. Good job, humanity.
1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v@reddit
I agree, that was going to be my point. They don't need a full-blown desktop or OS in space; they just need the fastest, most reliable, bare minimum system for what they need to accomplish. Anything else would be overly complex and increase the risk of something failing.
badnamemaker@reddit
Not for an email machine, for that they just need something that works. Which in most cases is an out of the box windows pc that end users are already familiar with. Whats the point of creating a custom OS if the users don’t know how to navigate it and have to take their precious training time to re learn email on a new OS
1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v@reddit
I am surprised that so many of you just can't comprehend a computer system that is not Windows OS....
I feel so much older now.
badnamemaker@reddit
Lmao dawg I use all sorts of OSs at work where needed, why would you waste precious time and resources reinventing the wheel for some emails?? Emails that already for sure live in the microsoft environment on the back end. You don’t need to feel old, just contrarian I guess?
SirLoremIpsum@reddit
Interesting - did you ask why they didn't use Windows 65? Which was the widely available and popular alternate to 'building your own OS' at the time...
proxgs@reddit
Because the astronauts in the 60s were not familiar with Windows or m365
5redie8@reddit
Missed opportunity to use EndeavourOS smh
~~Absolutely nothing could go wrong running arch on a system that will have extended periods of no Internet before needing to reconnect~~
2cats2hats@reddit
Is a snark reply necessary on this sub?
badnamemaker@reddit
Which part was unprofessional and snarky? This is why shittysysadmin is way better, the people there are actually helpful and also know what a joke is lmao
paraknowya@reddit
Thats not snark, sir
ImScaredofCats@reddit
The ISS runs Linux on most of its machines, also mostly Thinkpads.
BisonThunderclap@reddit
Why would the federal government use the most popular office software suite in existence that they probably get a sweet deal on?
Are you seriously asking this?
Superbead@reddit
It's only the most popular office software suite in existence for legacy reasons. Thunderbird is far more stable and predictable than the newest version of Outlook
2cats2hats@reddit
From a stability perspective I am. Someone else created the post we are all in.
BisonThunderclap@reddit
There's nothing wrong with having windows and microsoft office on devices.
Its pretty poor IT management on NASA's part since they didn't cap updates for the devices going up like they very well could have and ended up with New Outlook on it.
Orbital internet access by NASA is highly protected, so it wouldn't matter if they missed security updates.
ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit
It's his own personal device.
None of you know how to read, it seems.
pc_load_letter_in_SD@reddit
But was it joined or registered in Intune?
MattDaCatt@reddit
I dont know what those words mean
But why didnt NASA put gentoo on the laptop instead?
5redie8@reddit
The personal device with unattended corporate vnc access?
Anonymous3891@reddit
I think you might be understanding the definition of 'personal' in this case. PCD is the NASA acronym, but it doesn't mean the same thing as it does for us in the IT space.
The PCD is a NASA device issued to that astronaut, they each have one. It's basically their work PC with their email and everything like that on it. There are certainly other 'Computing Devices' in the Orion capsule that are shared and therefore not 'Personal'.
2cats2hats@reddit
Again, someone else created a post we are all discussing this in. Sure, the product can be stable but calling NASA IT management poor isn't fair, not really. Now it makes me wonder what IT thinks about this incident, we'll probably never know.
Your reply comes off as defensive of MS, even though I understand you are not.
VexingRaven@reddit
It's not like they're using these computers to steer the rocket.
ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit
It's his personal device.
Th4ab@reddit
Can't possibly be bloat free if they have both Outlooks. Probably has Solitaire and the Xbox Gamebar.
Update Tuesday is in the mission time, folks.
Cyhawk@reddit
Its a personal device, not managed by NASA, no different than your personal laptop at home. They're allowed to bring some things up. Chris Hadfield had an Macbook or something posting social media stuff while he was on the ISS as an example.
2cats2hats@reddit
That's surprising. Thanks for the info.
outcastcolt@reddit
Well in order for it to be bloat free, wouldn't that mean getting rid of Windows itself?
2cats2hats@reddit
NASA has utilized open-source for a long time, as well as linux/bsd. Not saying this as a zealot I just don't see why they would use outlook and winos from an efficiency point of view.
mkosmo@reddit
The email machines have traditionally been Windows... even on Shuttle, and still on ISS today.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/03/15/why-does-the-iss-use-windows-os/
sirhecsivart@reddit
Didn’t NASA have a hand in creating OpenStack?
RedShift9@reddit
It's his personal device
TotallyInOverMyHead@reddit
why de fuq are they taking personal computing devices like a surface into space ?
Frothyleet@reddit
Every astronaut gets a personal mass allocation they can use at their discretion.
Srirachachacha@reddit
Why did they bring a golf club to the moon during Apollo 14? Presumably because it wasn't that heavy and they wanted to
Maybe he's emailing his family lol
aperrien@reddit
We really do need to see how these things perform in deep space, and now is as good a time as any to try them all out.
Sufficient_Duck_8051@reddit
Do they have BYD program in space? I imagine their iPhones would have to be enrolled
xixi2@reddit
Ok so NASA is byod?
Idlers_Dream@reddit
I feel like this need to be pasted into 90% of these comments.
Mechanical_Monk@reddit
Why in space are we using outlook on earth?
amotion578@reddit
Real talk.
There's fucking email in space? Brother, WHY IS THERE OUTLOOK IN SPACE
legacyproblems@reddit
Governments need to get on top of this. Should be quarantined to Earth. We do everything in our power to prevent microbes from getting to mars, but we allowed Outlook out there?
badnamemaker@reddit
What are they supposed to use, telepathy? Holograms? 😂
amotion578@reddit
yes-zoidberg_poopaids_copy(1)(1).gif
NuAngelDOTnet@reddit
I just like that you started this question with "Why on Earth..." except...
Zuxicovp@reddit
Some things change, others stay the same! Looking forward to our future 100 years from now where we’re still dealing with outlook being crap
jschinker@reddit
It wasn't always like this. Voyager has been running for 50 years without a software update or reboot. We used to make sure things worked before sending them off the planet, but our expectations are so low now that nobody is really surprised by this.
git_und_slotermeyer@reddit
50 years ago they flew to the moon with the computing power of C64s, nowadays you can store entire public libraries on a thumb drive, yet due to MS we constantly lack CPU and RAM for performing basic office tasks.
paraknowya@reddit
Its gonna be Copilot (for Outlook(Classic)) by then
your_neurosis@reddit
No, it will clearly be: 'New! Copilot (for Outlook(Classic) new)
aVarangian@reddit
New Classic Outlook for Copilot (classic) New
zoetaz1616@reddit
This guy is clearly from the future.
r0ndr4s@reddit
New outlook for us in the hospital has gone from: not being able to filter properly, to not opening, not recognizing accounts to even straight up not letting you press some buttons.
Maybe "too big to fail" shouldnt be a thing in capitalism.
Unlucky_Ad_9888@reddit
😂😂😂
StormyIN@reddit
This may just be the BEST post ever!
cpmb82@reddit
Why didn’t he check before liftoff?!
CeC-P@reddit
I heard that in space nobody can hear you fail to open a PDF attachment because of a caching issue in the Edgeview engine that's powering a fake email client and camps on the mailto: handler until you change it in a newly created area of the app defaults area that nobody knows is there.
Aperture_Kubi@reddit
Wait, they have wifi up there?
Shasla@reddit
They gotta have some kind of data connection to earth. Imagine if Houston had no video feed of satellites at all. And once you have any data connection, might as well allow for some percent of it to be used by astronauts' personal devices.
No matter how little total bandwidth they may have available, there's bound to be some percentage where the positive mental health impact of being able to stay connected with friends, family, and other online things outweighs the value of that bandwidth being used for other data.
Aperture_Kubi@reddit
Yeah I assumed the ship's equipment itself had a data link, I was more surprised they have "consumer wifi" for personal devices up there instead of having to use some ship integrated solution for communication like that. And that any personal device would effectively be airgapped.
Large_Yams@reddit
Yes they have a continual data link to earth.
dustojnikhummer@reddit
Usually, yes, satelite internet.
Large_Yams@reddit
Satellites internet points at earth. They ARE the satellite.
ADTR9320@reddit
I mean... satellite Internet is a thing.
yankeesfan01x@reddit
This is the most amazing thing I've seen.
Professional-Heat690@reddit
CA impossible travel went nuts....
yankeesfan01x@reddit
Haha, this is gold.
GreenDaemon@reddit
I'm highly curious what the "location" fields show as in Entra...
linuxknight@reddit
And does the timezone constantly update?
Unable-Entrance3110@reddit
LOL, I was thinking the same thing.
KofOaks@reddit
"Please log in to the management interface to diagnose the issue"
Purview? Nope
Defender? Nope
Entra? Nope
Azure? Nope
365 Admin Center? Nope
Intune? Nope
365 apps admin center? Wtf lol nope!
Sharepoint admin center? Nope
PowerBI? What? Fuck nope!
Copilot Whateverthefuck management page? Nope
Or try one of the 100s more!
dustojnikhummer@reddit
The fact Microsoft has multiple dashboards that try to list all the admin panels, and none of them actually have all of it.
I once had to go down into Sharepoint settings and ended up on an azuread subdomain... with Windows 8 design, those back arrows will haunt me
Mechanical_Monk@reddit
They need to add another dashboard that consolidates all the dashboards!
(xkcd)
dustojnikhummer@reddit
There is always a relevant XKCD, and most of the time it is Competing Standards
AforAnonymous@reddit
…curious. Very curious. Details?
dustojnikhummer@reddit
I can't find it again but if i remember correctly it was a permission about "Allow users to create Sharepoint sites". To be more specific, we had an issue where new users wouldn't get their OneDrive for Business created and it was down to this permission. It was deep down in a Metro styled control panel on an Azuread domain
sharkstax@reddit
Our SharePoint also has some Metro design elements in the settings' pages. I recall seeing them when I wanted to turn off notifications about Intranet news.
SourCreamSplatter@reddit
Honestly surprised that NASA wouldn't use Linux instead
Mechanical_Monk@reddit
2026 is the year of the Linux desktop
dustojnikhummer@reddit
It's a personal device.
tejanaqkilica@reddit
Why? Not everything needs to run on Linux, especially a device that's not for supporting infrastructure.
ck17350@reddit
Going into space can really change your Outlook.
Mechanical_Monk@reddit
Goddamnit take your upvote.
ludlology@reddit
I'd be so mad if I had the opportunity to go up in space and still had to check my fucking email, wtf
Also why cant these MFs at least get a Toughbook or some other type of hardened computer that is good. Surfii aren't good.
Mechanical_Monk@reddit
Plot twist: Outlook works just fine.
"Ohh nooo, sorry, my outlook doesn't work up here 🤷♂️"
CherryChokePart@reddit
I never had the nightmare scenario of Outlook in space.
fatoms@reddit
Since when do we trust anything a user says ?
pittyh@reddit
I'm surprised they let anything at all from Microsoft be onboard when lives are on the line.
trainwreck84@reddit
https://youtu.be/2zpCOYkdvTQ?si=RBCal0kzl3wn9To8
ARandomGuy_OnTheWeb@reddit
Even in space, Microsoft will make you scream
Professional-Ad4459@reddit
In space no one can hear you scream (for tech support)
GiGiAGoGroove@reddit
Forgot to renew his subscription.
dengar69@reddit
Outlook tried to connect to the cloud, but there are no clouds in space.
git_und_slotermeyer@reddit
Oort cloud enters the chat
HHCY@reddit
Surface pro, not Space pro. Should have got a right license.
git_und_slotermeyer@reddit
Needs Mission365 for Critical
Final_Produce1594@reddit
Who the hell decides on a surface pro for use in space?
Forsaken-Praline1611@reddit
NASA guy replied why on X. They designed the craft back in 2017, for launch in 2020. They used tablets that were in the catalog for the ISS at that time.
This is space travel. They don’t keep updating to the latest neato tech at the drop of a hat. Particularly, with program delays.
git_und_slotermeyer@reddit
I would have rather expected something even slightly manufactured towards milspec, and that you can open quickly with or even without a screwdriver for repairs.
BisonThunderclap@reddit
Surface pros are great. MacBook quality without the price hit.
dustojnikhummer@reddit
You do realize how expensive and unreliable Surfaces are, right?
BisonThunderclap@reddit
Dude, it's my daily driver at work and the rest of the coworkers use them. Y'all need to get better at managing them.
dustojnikhummer@reddit
Intune can't save badly built chassis and keyboards.
xfilesvault@reddit
Stop dropping your computer
CarnivalCassidy@reddit
You know that not everyone uses their tablets sitting in an office? Some workers have to bring them into the field.
xfilesvault@reddit
I know. We have tons of smashed iPads and Surface tablets.
CarnivalCassidy@reddit
Then put a case on them.
xfilesvault@reddit
We did.
Foremen out in the field on oil platforms and building datacenters are really good at breaking things.
dustojnikhummer@reddit
Tell that to users...
EffectiveEquivalent@reddit
Except they’re more expensive and have the windows issues….
Wolfram_And_Hart@reddit
Eh. I’ve never supported a surface that I would Consider great. Most are ok to good.
carterxz@reddit
Surface Pro’s in an Enterprise environment are horrible. No real BIOS, PIV card relies on a case, and overheating issues.
halomate1@reddit
Macbook quality? Definitely not, and now with Neo that recently came out, price beats it easily.
wireditfellow@reddit
They took MS Surface in space, that’s on NASA. Ballsy.
git_und_slotermeyer@reddit
Whats better than using devices in space that you can't open easily for repairs ane maintenance.
git_und_slotermeyer@reddit
The problem was surely that he logged in with a private MS account he registered with the same email address like his NASA M365 account. I hope they come back alive.
genericuser642@reddit
LOL. Fucking 2 outlooks, neither working. Flawless Microsoft victory right there.
git_und_slotermeyer@reddit
"Commander, are you launching Outlook Business, Outlook 365, or Outlook Classic?"
cdoublejj@reddit
It's not Microslop's fault they didn't run SFC /SCANNOW
git_und_slotermeyer@reddit
Houston here, can you press Windows+Q and enter quick assist code 312 642 or maybe do a screen recording of the problem with the Snipping Tool?
git_und_slotermeyer@reddit
I'm disappointed. No interference like Copilot popping up with suggested prompts about moon landing trivia?
In the future, launch Windows will be moved due to Windows Update. Never launch during Patch Tuesday week if you want to live.
salynch@reddit
We all know that this is an Active Directory issue, right?
Dammit_Benny@reddit
Do we need to submit a feature request for Microsoft to add Moon as an allowable location in Conditional Access Policies?
DrunkyMcStumbles@reddit
And this is why you shouldn't open windows is space
MinishCap97@reddit
Wow
gotmynamefromcaptcha@reddit
It would be funny as hell if he ghosted them after asking for help.
dawg4prez@reddit
He also asked for tech support with the GoPro.
siegevjorn@reddit
Did Microslop do microslop again?
ShadowInReddit@reddit
Sir please update your device ! lol
Just_Steve_IT@reddit
Reminds me of the meme I created a few years ago, during the first gen Surface Pros...
zaphod777@reddit
You would think that Windows would work well on their own devices but you know what they say about assumptions.
I remember being stunned that there were issues with the drivers on a first gen Surface my dad had.
Pablouchka@reddit
Can you restart your device please ?
mortalwombat-@reddit
Did anyone else see him enter his pin on the livestream? He needs to change his pin.
EverOnGuard@reddit
Imagine fighting to survive in space and your computer gives a popup saying it’s going to reboot in two minutes to install updates, and there’s no postpone option.
Love you MS, but I take a Mac when it counts.
catwiesel@reddit
when i heard it first I thought it was a joke
cryonova@reddit
FUCK MICROSOFT!!
TheMillersWife@reddit
First thing I thought of when I read this lol
honemastert@reddit
NASA could have just stuck with UNIX mailx and ASCII art 😉
mc_security@reddit
I don't think we should let Microsoft products leave earth's atmosphere.
tommysk87@reddit
Correct, their place is under earth's crust
ciabattabing16@reddit
Well yeah....he's further away from the cloud than we are...
zyzmog@reddit
Seems like the first "w" in "www" needs to be replaced with something else.
Jawb0nz@reddit
Do you think they report the outage to #Downdetector?
thecuriousostrich@reddit
Not the surface pro
vspecmaster@reddit
Jokes on them for using a Surface Pro
simonjakeevan@reddit
A little bit off topic, but I feel like it's a good place to ask.
Did anyone watch the SpaceX Starship test launch yesterday a couple of hours before the NASA Artemis launch? I watched both of them, and the production technology from SpaceX was leaps ahead of the NASA production. It honestly felt like watching the Space Shuttle launches back in the 1980's. Anybody else notice this?
Large_Yams@reddit
One is a private company, the other is a government agency. Government agencies get budget cuts and have to start at the least effective positions first.
Space X being a private company relies on their marketing to be outward facing to drum up customers.
Nu-Hir@reddit
When you say production technology, are you talking about the video feeds? It's because SpaceX is trying to sell and NASA is trying to inform. SpaceX needs to make everything flashy in order to sell a product, getting things into Space. NASA isn't selling any product.
hasthisusernamegone@reddit
There was a Starship test launch?
simonjakeevan@reddit
Probably. My observation doesn't change. There was just more information about what was happening on the screen, and a lot more camera and angles being broadcast. If everything else was identical in regards to the rockets the SpaceX broadcast/coverage of the launch is a much better experience.
KAugsburger@reddit
I think that they might have gotten confused by the Falcon 9 Starlink launch earlier in the day at Cape Canaveral.
dispatch00@reddit
Maybe SpaceX should spend some of that budget on making rockets not blow up
mkosmo@reddit
SpaceX also is playing by a different rulebook when it comes to hardware interface design, hardware redundancy, and design philosophy.
KAugsburger@reddit
The NASA Artemis coverage was pretty widely panned on r/space. It wasn't just the limited video from the rocket itself or video quality but they cut away from the rocket to show spectators during the separation of the solid rocket boosters. The decision on what camera feeds to show didn't make any sense.
accipitradea@reddit
NASA probably fired the only competent producers after budget cuts
MyPhotographyReddit@reddit
Artimis successfully launched a capsule beyond escape velocity. The white elephant Spacex has yet to achieve this.
hadesscion@reddit
Whenever you start to feel "imposter syndrome," just remember that you're probably smarter than the people running Microsoft.
Nether_Nemesis@reddit
Microslop
duranfan@reddit
I have been struggling all day to avoid making a “Blue Screen Of Death” joke…
Jeff-IT@reddit
Did you expect it to be better in space? Lmao
bronekkk@reddit
Admittedly that's one place where radiation can mess electronics up.
ElvisDumbledore@reddit
Microsoft is the MVP (Minimum Viable Product)
trich101@reddit
I am surprised they even run anything Microsoft, like its all about durable and reliable hardware and they choose Windows.. .. no Linux branch for NASA or something? So weird.
TundraGon@reddit
Please be patient...windows is updating.
FurlockTheTerrible@reddit
Something didn't go as planned. Don't worry - undoing changes. Please keep your computer on.
cdoublejj@reddit
Misspelled Microslop. Have you tried running SFC /SCANNOW?
chaosxq@reddit
Astroslop
Solsimian@reddit
Blocked for impossible travel
idontknowlikeapuma@reddit
The irony: the video is posted on twitter. So we are at a quadfecta of enshittification: surface, windows, outlook, and twitter.
Now if this was connected to an HP printer, we would only need a KTC monitor, a cheap gaming mouse with nine buttons on the side all programmed to middle click while the scroll wheel opens an instance of Edge that displays an ad, and a keyboard that requires you to hold the FN key, which is where the left CTRL should be, to actually use F10…
Damn, and now I have to walk someone through the troubleshooting in space?! While I am in a cubicle?
I hope God doesn’t see this post, because I gave Him a great idea for my personal hell.
Slasher1738@reddit
Satya is just gonna look the other way
allianceHT@reddit
My outlook doesn't work either
evolooshun@reddit
Should have gone Linux... just saying.
dustojnikhummer@reddit
It was his personal device.
12Superman26@reddit
They trust a space Mission to Windows? Wow that is risky
dustojnikhummer@reddit
It was his personal device.
kaishinoske1@reddit
Replying to DrunkyMcStumbles...yes, because it’s cheap from the way everything has been running. That’s been the theme overall, “ Do it for as cheaply as possible. “
Electrical-Staff0305@reddit
In space, no one can hear you scream…
At Outlook.
Gawdzilla@reddit
I'm having flashbacks to rebuilding the Outlook profile.
ronin_cse@reddit
When he turned it off then on again did he actually restart it or did he just push the button on it?
Ron-Swanson-Mustache@reddit
When you did the restart, how long did it take after you hit restart for it come back on?
About 5 seconds
MDParagon@reddit
ahahah your flair
kaishinoske1@reddit
Prolly just shut it down thinking it’s the same thing.
steveatari@reddit
"Sir, I don't mean to be pedantic but did you press and hold it in for 5+ seconds or..."
MDParagon@reddit
ahahaha lmfao
Equivalent-Rope-2412@reddit
Sir, can you click on the paperclip with the eyes?
Unable-Entrance3110@reddit
Microsoft is like: Impossible travel, access denied!
PeterThorFischer@reddit
Sure, because Outlook only uses the world wide web.
azspeedbullet@reddit
Hello IT, have you tried turning it off and on again
halomate1@reddit
SenTedStevens@reddit
Uh, sir. That controls the oxygen in your spacecraft.
dreamersword@reddit
Pretty sure computers don't always work right in space... There is like a whole thing about this. I am not an expert but I know that computers need some shielding to last long in space.
FederalDish5@reddit
This is where Apple should go for an Ad and partnership... lol
CAPICINC@reddit
It's a liscensing issue, isn't it?
AbolishIncredible@reddit
Licence was probably region locked to earth.
You need the Copilot Explorer Licence Business Ultimate for space travel.
amberoze@reddit
You would think they'd use FOSS software, being fucking NASA and all that.
CopiousCool@reddit
Have they not yet learned that mission critical systems require Linux
dadbodcx@reddit
Needed to run updates.
ProfessionalBread176@reddit
...due to unwanted bloatware, the Microsoft suite once again underperforms...
anonymousITCoward@reddit
I wonder if he had to deal with an L1 tech or if he gets to cut the line and gets immediate escalation