I loved the Martian and PHM, but strongly disliked Artemis. First, I don't think he wrote a woman very well. To make a strong female protagonist as a man, you just write the book with a male protagonist and go back and change pronouns appropriately to match the sex and sexuality for the story you are trying to tell. There was too much of him inserting his ideas of what a woman would think. Second, she is a criminal. Now, in context her story is a heist story, and a rags to riches story, but she never has to "science the shit out of it", nor "figure it out" using a polyglot level of intelligence. She isn't stupid, either. She just doesn't lend to the same fantasy of Macguyvering the other protagonists do in their respective books. I even had the benefit of hearing Rosario Dawson for the Artemis audio book, which I was really excited about, and even she couldn't make me really like the character. Finally, the cast surrounding her character weren't cheering for her like those around Grace or Whatney, because the stakes weren't the same, or they were only doing it because they liked her sexually or were willing to use her as a scapegoat or a pawn.
That last point might actually be the defining reason many Weir fans hate Artemis. The Martian was about the world trying to save one guy. Project Hail Mary was about one guy trying to save the world (well, two guys trying to save two worlds). But Artemis was about a girl trying to get a better apartment.
At least a half an hour too long. Gives Lotr a run for its money for "oh this must be the ending" moments. Couldnt believe they didnt show him holding hands with the military chick under a rainbow on earth at the end.
Wasn't really interested in watching PHM, but after reading the comments here with so many redditors saying it was mid, now I'm convinced it must be amazing. Anything redditors don't like I assume must be great.
"the movie defines bravery as unwilling sacrifice"
It doesn't. The characters talk about Grace being brave because, at that point, they don't know he was forced to go.
"like alien life not requiring water"
Grace is actually disappointed to learn that all the aliens are CHO-based, including the boulders. I don't understand how this would be woke messaging even if it was true.
Pretty sure Rocky was actually water based, despite all this phsyilological differences, in the book anyway. It's been a minute since I read the book but I remember there being a moment of hopelessness where Grace kinda laments on how the only thing that qualified him for the mission wasn't even relevant in the end
That part was in the movie too. I liked the movie but I think they leaned too far into the buddy comedy and too far away from some of the more existential aspects. Like Rocky's people not understanding relativity, and Grace realizing his "kids" would be in their 30's. They hardly touched on all the other astronauts and I really wish we got to see the Trial for Stratt too. She did a lot of things for "the greater good" and it seemed kinda glossed over
It doesn't explicitly state, however, that this is why Rocky's ship has more fuel than necessary, or the reason why everyone else on Rocky's ship died.
Yep, movie doesn't say it but the book confirms that every life form they find (Eridians, astrophage, taumoeba) needs water. He took a pretty big L on that theory.
First movie review from a blind, deaf and mute person who had the movie explained to them via finger tapping delivered by an 80iq schizophrenic interpreter who was on their phone for half the film.
lobotominizer@reddit
It wasn't reddit:the movie.
That was OBAA
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JustChillin3456@reddit
Any day now they’ll activate the nano chips laced in the blood of those who got the jab and the new world order will rise with its brain dead army
congle123@reddit
What if I only got the initial vaccine but not the booster? Is it over for me?
Ibrahim77X@reddit
This post has every flavor of 4channer.
ComprehensiveAd8804@reddit
I read the book and it’s so mid, how are people losing their mind over it
BrocoliAssassin@reddit
I read Artemis after I saw so many people say how great Weir's humor and story telling is.
It's basically like what a 12 year old fedora redditor would think space travel,criminal gangs and girls are like.
I always donate my books to other people or the library but I threw that garbage in the firepit..
ComprehensiveAd8804@reddit
That's what I felt about Hail Mary. Feel like a Ryan Reynolds or Reddit dude narrating
Doriantalus@reddit
I loved the Martian and PHM, but strongly disliked Artemis. First, I don't think he wrote a woman very well. To make a strong female protagonist as a man, you just write the book with a male protagonist and go back and change pronouns appropriately to match the sex and sexuality for the story you are trying to tell. There was too much of him inserting his ideas of what a woman would think. Second, she is a criminal. Now, in context her story is a heist story, and a rags to riches story, but she never has to "science the shit out of it", nor "figure it out" using a polyglot level of intelligence. She isn't stupid, either. She just doesn't lend to the same fantasy of Macguyvering the other protagonists do in their respective books. I even had the benefit of hearing Rosario Dawson for the Artemis audio book, which I was really excited about, and even she couldn't make me really like the character. Finally, the cast surrounding her character weren't cheering for her like those around Grace or Whatney, because the stakes weren't the same, or they were only doing it because they liked her sexually or were willing to use her as a scapegoat or a pawn.
That last point might actually be the defining reason many Weir fans hate Artemis. The Martian was about the world trying to save one guy. Project Hail Mary was about one guy trying to save the world (well, two guys trying to save two worlds). But Artemis was about a girl trying to get a better apartment.
21onDec23@reddit (OP)
Funny, most Wier fans don't typically like Artemis.
snrup1@reddit
It's a fun movie
PlzRemainCalm@reddit
What books do you consider to be good?
ForumsDwelling@reddit
Probably none cuz they don't read books
DickManning@reddit
Because there is nothing even close to good in theaters right now
ilovecatsandturtles@reddit
Tldr but i too just watch project hail mid. And it was mid.
HeWhoRemains369@reddit
My honest reaction to this review
kojimbob@reddit
Yabba_dabba_dooooo@reddit
At least a half an hour too long. Gives Lotr a run for its money for "oh this must be the ending" moments. Couldnt believe they didnt show him holding hands with the military chick under a rainbow on earth at the end.
Top_Agency1370@reddit
Gay. It made me tear up because they’re such good friends 🥹🥹🥹 it’s like ET The Friendly Extra Terrestrial. Both such good films.
ForumsDwelling@reddit
Wasn't really interested in watching PHM, but after reading the comments here with so many redditors saying it was mid, now I'm convinced it must be amazing. Anything redditors don't like I assume must be great.
make_reddit_great@reddit
Always with the "they".
While I have your attention: is "lizard people" a sincere belief or an ironic one? I'm still not sure.
ThePizzaTimePizzaGuy@reddit
Have you ever seen Mark Zuckerberg? If that guy isnt a lizard then no one is
YesIBlockedYou@reddit
True.
DarkGreenEspeon@reddit
It doesn't. The characters talk about Grace being brave because, at that point, they don't know he was forced to go.
Grace is actually disappointed to learn that all the aliens are CHO-based, including the boulders. I don't understand how this would be woke messaging even if it was true.
All in all, 8/10, pretty good schizoposting.
ManufacturedUnknown@reddit
Pretty sure Rocky was actually water based, despite all this phsyilological differences, in the book anyway. It's been a minute since I read the book but I remember there being a moment of hopelessness where Grace kinda laments on how the only thing that qualified him for the mission wasn't even relevant in the end
TMWNN@reddit
Grace similarly despairs when, contrary to his doctoral thesis, astrophage turns out to be water-based.
ManufacturedUnknown@reddit
That part was in the movie too. I liked the movie but I think they leaned too far into the buddy comedy and too far away from some of the more existential aspects. Like Rocky's people not understanding relativity, and Grace realizing his "kids" would be in their 30's. They hardly touched on all the other astronauts and I really wish we got to see the Trial for Stratt too. She did a lot of things for "the greater good" and it seemed kinda glossed over
TMWNN@reddit
The film mentions this.
It doesn't explicitly state, however, that this is why Rocky's ship has more fuel than necessary, or the reason why everyone else on Rocky's ship died.
chameleonsEverywhere@reddit
Yep, movie doesn't say it but the book confirms that every life form they find (Eridians, astrophage, taumoeba) needs water. He took a pretty big L on that theory.
Kookerpea@reddit
This movie isnt that deep
osaid2000@reddit
There's also a mention of the star Sirius, which is another conspiracy by David Icke about Saturn and Jews.
DmoSon@reddit
Always fun to see schizophrenia distilled into a 4chan post
leastemployableman@reddit
Judging on the cover alone it looks like another movie trying to be the next "Interstellar"
DickManning@reddit
Could say that about any space movie I suppose
Curzio-Malaparte@reddit
The rock crab was hot
supfresh64@reddit
First movie review from a blind, deaf and mute person who had the movie explained to them via finger tapping delivered by an 80iq schizophrenic interpreter who was on their phone for half the film.
CapitalistVenezuelan@reddit
Baby's first Christ reference?
AnInfiniteAmount@reddit