Announcement: Temporary LLM Content Ban
Posted by ChemicalRascal@reddit | programming | View on Reddit | 300 comments
Hey folks,
After a lot of discussion, we've decided to trial a ban of any and all content relating to LLMs. We get a lot of posts related to LLMs and typically they are not in line with what we want the subreddit to be — a place for detailed, technical learning and discourse about software engineering, driven by high quality, informative content. And unfortunately, the volume of LLM-related content easily overwhelms other topics.
We also believe that, generally, the community have been indicating that, by and large, they aren't interested in this content. So, we want to see how a trial ban impacts how people use the sub. As such:
While this post is stickied, for 2-4 weeks over April, **we're banning all LLM-related content from the sub.**
Note that this doesn't ban all _AI_ related content. An article detailing _how_ what would have traditionally been called an AI was made for Go? Totally fine. A technical breakdown of a machine learning process? Great! Just so long as it's not LLMs.
case-o-nuts@reddit
So far, this has been fantastic; can we keep it this way permanently?
Economy_Walk_2143@reddit
honestly this makes sense
LLM posts tend to flood everything and a lot of them are surface-level
hard to have deeper engineering discussions when every other post is “prompt this, build that”
a temporary ban is actually a smart reset
forces people to talk about fundamentals again instead of tools
curious if engagement drops or improves though
because LLM content brings volume, just not always quality
kinda refreshing either way tbh
MostAttorney1701@reddit
what about slms?
yojimbo_beta@reddit
Honestly I think it's a good thing whatever you believe about LLMs.
There is so many things happening in computer science and software engineering right now - let's talk about them
ThisIsMyCouchAccount@reddit
I actually would like some competent, SE focused discussion of LLMs.
Because - whatever my beliefs are about them - my job has mandated their use. And like every other tool I've been told I need to learn I'm trying to. And so far it's been hard to find.
You either have places like this. Technical people completely rejecting it. Or, non-technical people that are just learning what a CLI tool is. Neither are actually helpful.
Where is the middle ground? People using their knowledge and skills in programming to leverage it?
Tai9ch@reddit
Requires a bit more searching, but there's some good stuff out there. The best stuff I've seen is very experienced devs talking about their successes.
The broadest point I've seen: The methods to get productivity out of junior developers (e.g. policies like strict TDD, iterative code reviews, supervision and feedback) work well with LLMs.
FeepingCreature@reddit
Junior devs with regular memory loss but incredibly quick on the uptake. So:
and so on. Basically focus less on teaching and more on creating an environment where the agent can rapidly learn on its own.
Bush-Men209@reddit
That framing makes sense to me, because if you do not give it clear requirements, examples, and guardrails, it will crank out confident nonsense just like an unsupervised junior.
FeepingCreature@reddit
It definitely has a very hard time noticing or at least surfacing when it's not understanding something. Claude least of the three, but still a lot.
kintar1900@reddit
Yes, this. Banning anything at all related to LLMs is a terrible idea.
phillipcarter2@reddit
There are a lot of technical people who use these tools effectively. But they don't post here because this subreddit is filled with a ton of people who object to LLMs on some basis unrelated to their usefulness. It's an actively hostile place for any of us who do use these tools deliberately and towards particular goals.
djnattyp@reddit
So, if your job mandated you to clean the executive toilets, no one else would care to talk about the "SE focused best practices of executive poop scrubbing". It's not actually helpful to just roll over and accept stupidity and try to sanewash dumb management decisions.
TinyPanda3@reddit
From a capitalists standpoint, how is it stupidity? They get to use the dead labour of millions of developers around the world to make more money. What choice does any individual working at a company have? What choice does a public company even have under capitalism? They must embrace the new tools or else they will fall behind, and the perception of their company from investors will sour.
Its unfortunately only stupid from the perspective of the peoples who's labour was exploited, unknowingly which is even more brutal than wage exploitation. I do sympathize with how you feel because it's really unfair, but the capitalists people work for do not give a shit about concepts like dead labour. Society as a whole must not be capitalist for this to change at all.
djnattyp@reddit
I agree, it's basically greed - a gamble from the capitalist and management class to basically automate away workers so they won't have to pay them anymore.
It's stupid because they don't actually understand what it's really doing and they're actually buying into the marketing that it's "real AI" and "thinking" and not just a bullshit machine. 99% of proposed AI usage is either something that is doable today in a less wasteful manner, or it's just not doable at all and the AI use is some kind of smokescreen that hides the scam a little bit longer.
hpp3@reddit
I feel like you went off the rails a bit towards the end. You can get good results with having AI produce code. There are best practices that, when combined with an experienced engineer supervising and reviewing, make AI actually a good tool for software development.
djnattyp@reddit
Right, that goes with the "something that is doable today in a less wasteful manner" part of the statement.
The "good tool" part is super questionable. What's the actual difference in quality, accuracy, speed of the entire process between an experienced engineer (or team) just actually writing the software instead of telling an AI to do it, reviewing it, telling the AI to do it again, and don't hallucinate this time, gramma needs her medicine, oh wait it generated entirely different code, review it, pull the lever on the slop machine, etc.
audioen@reddit
I don't know how much you have worked with AI. I ignored them until this year, until some local models arrived that I could put on my computer and run them, and I realized that we have breached some bar now and these seemed to be genuinely useful.
I have become converted since then. I'm convinced that AI brings real value, and there is no need to purchase any subscription for it or to use any paid tool. Your basic VS Code probably has free plugins for it, or you can cook your own on top of projects such as llama.cpp.
I am not going to go much into detail, because last time I explained it in detail, people deleted my comment as purely AI spam. So not looking to repeat that experience this time.
AI can't replace software developer right now, at least the kind of models that are relatively easily within reach for a home user. But it is ultra helpful in documenting, writing tests, keeping tests and documentation up-to-date, and it can sometimes perfectly succeed in writing a new feature. It can review your commits and spots obvious bugs. In my opinion, there is huge value. I call it the "night shift" when I go to bed and often hand some big task to AI in order to check the results in the morning.
As to quality of human vs. AI coding, I'm going to say that I work with both humans and AIs that write bad code. The model I can run at home is not stellar programmer -- I'd call it similar to an average employee I deal with. With some guidance, they can both produce good results, but in my experience the AI can get the feature done in couple of hours and I don't have to talk to the AI's manager in order to make a case for that feature to exist. If the code comes out right and works, it's practically done for free. If not, I'll just revert the work and either try again or rethink the approach and give more hints in my prompt.
Cualkiera67@reddit
Guys the boss wants the software engineer to use this software engineering tool! He's gone insane!!!!11!!
djnattyp@reddit
Sanewashing using a probabilistic bullshit machine as a useful "tool".
Cualkiera67@reddit
Guys I'm personally incapable of getting value out of this tool, this is surely proof it's garbage even if many devs find it useful!!!! Noooooo it's not a skill issue on my side, everyone else is lying nooooo00oo!!
djnattyp@reddit
Goddamn... it's a soyjack in real life.
ThisIsMyCouchAccount@reddit
What are you talking about? Are trying to come up with some "logical" analogy in the hopes that I'll put my own employment at risk? Is that what you're doing.
Because this isn't some hypothetical or thought experiment.
It's a job. It's something they have to pay me to do because it's so outside the realm of what I want to do with my time. I'm not some warrior on the front line fighting the good fight to protect the integrity of software engineering. I'm a work from home contractor for a piece of shit startup.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
tnemec@reddit
???????
The previous comment (and the rest of this thread) is talking about the moderation of an internet forum. No one is talking about your job, or saying that you must quit at the first disagreement you run into, or some other bullshit like that.
All that is being said is that an internet forum about programming should be primarily about actual programming. It does not need to (nor should it) cater to whatever latest bullshit trend is passing through the corporate world, let alone pretending that it's anything other than bullshit. Even if that bullshit trend is being pushed onto software engineering jobs.
ThisIsMyCouchAccount@reddit
Moderation is a means to an end. Curated content. I stated I would like to see some high quality technical content about AI since that's now part of my job.
Then that other guy said I should not accept mandates from work that I found to be stupid. Which - if you read between the lines a bit - is putting my job at risk by not following company mandates.
Fair enough. But a lot of the content here is very much about programming as a profession and not purely about programming as a skill. Which lead me to believe that maybe this sub wasn't - in fact - purely about programming.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
While we hear this content would be useful to you, these discussions are something you would derive value from, while we're trialling this content ban they'll simply have to be somewhere else. r/ExperiencedDevs talks a lot about that sort of topic, they've been really tailoring themselves for creating those sort of job-friction discussions for a while now.
tnemec@reddit
Nope. Read that guy's original comment again.
Specifically, this part:
In other words, if your software engineering job mandates some stupid bullshit, don't expect other people to be suddenly interested in talking about that specific stupid bullshit. Let alone sanewashing it by parroting the narrative that it's some revolutionary new technology.
There's certainly overlap, and there's some stuff that gets posted here that I think is over the line (eg: discussions about agile and scrum and the like) but other people may draw the line differently (and the quantity of posts talking about scrum/agile/etc. is low enough anyway that it doesn't really bother me personally). But LLM posts are both squarely in the "software engineering as a career" category and they get posted non-stop.
standing_artisan@reddit
This
wintrmt3@reddit
There are infinite number of threads like that on r/experienceddevs Just remember it's against the rules to comment on anything there if you don't have 3 years of professional experience.
ThisIsMyCouchAccount@reddit
You serious?
What, do I have to upload a resume or something?
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
No, they don't expect you to do that at all. Those mods make a judgement call if you start saying you've been in the industry for six months or something, though, from what I've seen.
HasFiveVowels@reddit
Thank God. A place where I can have informed discussion with knowledgeable people that don’t react emotionally every time AI is brought up? This sounds too good to be true
KevinCarbonara@reddit
I feel extremely confident that most of the devs there have no professional experience
TheCommieDuck@reddit
perhaps the seeming lack of a middle ground tells you what you need to know
bonerfleximus@reddit
Same, the AI dev focused subs are flooded with people with no programming experience
hpp3@reddit
I'm curious how far this will extend.
For example, pretend there's a massive vulnerability discovered in the Linux kernel, and half the servers on the internet go down and there's insanity and chaos on a massive scale. It turns out an LLM generated patch was responsible.
Are we going to be allowed to discuss that here? It would be absurd to prohibit the topic when it would be the biggest programming news in years. On the other hand, it would likely spiral into debates about the LLM that generated the code.
SwitchOnTheNiteLite@reddit
You can talk about the downtime and what was in the patch that caused the problem, without putting any weight on the fact that it was LLM generated.
qualitative_balls@reddit
The odd thing is how it's only the LLM related posts that blow up and have a real discussion. All the interesting programming related posts have 10 comments and a few upvotes. Things can't be THAT dire
HasFiveVowels@reddit
"Real discussion" is not at all what happens on posts about AI. When it comes to AI, the programming communities on Reddit have become one of the loudest echo chambers I’ve ever witnessed.
Solonotix@reddit
Same here. That's also before considering how many other related communities also exist to discuss generative AI, each agent's specific community, and the number of programming-adjacent communities that also allow for these types of posts. It would be nice some circles of discussion were allowed to have a more focused discussion and scope.
The one counter I will say, though, is that historically Reddit has formed a generic community X, and the more focused topics are created as X + suffix. This meant searching for the generic subreddit would drive potential users to the more specific communities as well. Modern reddit isn't as simplistic, though, with people often opting for memorable names over optimizing for basic text search algorithms.
Significant_Run_2607@reddit
the temporary part matters more than the ban imo. if the issue is low-effort flood, a time-boxed pause gives mods room to define what counts as substantive without permanently turning every LLM post into a moderation argument.
Lona_Marshall@reddit
shared this with my dev friend, r/programming temp banning llm content is kinda wild but makes sense with all the ai spam lately
Wide_Mail_1634@reddit
reminds me of when a mod team in a pretty technical forum i used around 2023 had to do the same thing: once the front page filled up with LLM summaries, every thread turned into arguing with the article's paraphrase instead of the article. A temporary LLM content ban seems less about anti-AI signaling and more about restoring a basic quality filter, especially in a sub where titles already do too much editorializing. The real edge case is enforcement, since low-effort human-written posts and lightly edited model output usually fail in the exact same way.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
You're reading the rule wrong. We already have rules against LLM generated text.
This is a content topic ban.
sasik520@reddit
It’s funny how r/programming turns out not to be a good place for someone who’s been passionate about programming for 25 years and who, as a child, learned to read from programming books.
An extremely stupid and completely surprising decision.
Historical_Wing_9573@reddit
Omg, super stupid decision. LLM is part of technical progress and articles about LLM integration or LLM usage is part of software engineering job
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Apparently we're getting brigaded, so the thread will be locked for a few days.
daishi55@reddit
The most important thing to happen to programming this century, and you're not allowed to talk about it on r/programming? It beggars belief, truly.
case-o-nuts@reddit
"happen to programming" is the right phrasing, much the way "a fire happens to a house".
Demali876@reddit
My post was just banned when it was not about llms or written by an llm. Not everything is written by llms. let me guess llms drew my excalidraw diagrams too?
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Please read the rule. LLM related content is banned.
Your post is about payments for LLM-driven APIs. That's LLM related content. That violates the ban.
Obvious-Treat-4905@reddit
honestly makes sense for a focused sub, llm posts can easily drown out deeper technical discussions, a temporary ban sounds like a good way to reset the signal to noise ratio, curious to see if it actually brings back more high quality content
kintar1900@reddit
I appreciate the idea here, but we're already seeing enforcement that equates to "I can't really tell if this is AI, so I'm going to ban it just to be safe", and some outright "I don't like this, so I'm calling it AI and banning it".
Can we PLEASE revoke this ban until there's a reliable way to verify AI content, or at least some accountability to the community when an article that shouldn't be is banned?
terablast@reddit
*looks at calendar* hmm
Humble_Standard3860@reddit
was wondering when someone would notice the timing lol
classic move dropping this right before april fools - now nobody knows if its real or just an elaborate setup for tomorrow
AshuraBaron@reddit
"This is BS!"
It's April Fools dummy.
"I love this change."
We thought it was time to roll it out.
Win/win
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Timing just worked out this way. New month, ideal timing for testing a new rule.
idebugthusiexist@reddit
I think this rule is fair. They can have their own subreddits. I don’t think it serves this one well. Maybe have links to other subreddits for those who want that content?
daishi55@reddit
LLMs are the most important thing to happen to programming this century. Prohibiting speaking about this in the r/programming subreddit, besides being patently absurd on its face, also just reinforces the anti-AI echo chamber formed by this and related subreddits.
Just creates a community of people who have willfully made themselves ignorant to reality.
idebugthusiexist@reddit
You should read the mods explanation.
Boxy310@reddit
There's also elements that LLMs are what Donald Knuth would call "Literate Programming", and I've had some real bastardized chimaeras generated by LLMs forking my codebase and doing unexpected things that then can't be realistically undone.
wrincewind@reddit
Tell me again tomorrow... :p
Sigmatics@reddit
It's still stickied so I'm expecting it to stay. Hooray
Proper-Radish-9165@reddit
RemindMe! Tomorrow "hi this is me from yesterday. today is the 2nd of april, the day of destiny."
sebovzeoueb@reddit
I mean, they threw in an em dash and a random bit of bold text...
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
It's an em dash where one needs to be, and I bolded the text that I want to be sure people read. Come on.
sebovzeoueb@reddit
It's certainly a choice on April 1st
mirrax@reddit
I feel like there's even a deeper irony here CloudFlare dropping the LLM generated WordPress clone, EmDash today.
criggie_@reddit
Rule #13 is "No bots" already - is a LLM a bot ? Even if the content is pasted by meatware ?
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
LLM generated text has been banned for ages already. This is banning posts about LLMs.
Buckwheat469@reddit
This is a post about LLMs because you're posting about banning LLMs. The hypocrisy!
Orbidorpdorp@reddit
Only /r/Programming would have users dense enough to not be able to tell
WeeWooPeePoo69420@reddit
So tell us
Orbidorpdorp@reddit
Yes dude they’re not seriously gonna ban ai discussion here
WeeWooPeePoo69420@reddit
Discussing LLMs from a technical perspective makes sense for this sub, but that's never what the threads are about
Orbidorpdorp@reddit
Discussing the implications on software engineering both as an industry and how it relates to open source is super relevant too. This is a major shift in the industry and how we do our jobs, yes we're gonna talk about it in non-technical terms too, if not here than elsewhere.
WeeWooPeePoo69420@reddit
Yeah so uh talk about it elsewhere
joshrice@reddit
TBF they specifically said they're banning LLM but specifically not machine learning or other general AI.
Pretty sus announcement regardless, but it's not a blanket no AI ban.
LBGW_experiment@reddit
Before? Brother, it's been April fools for the entire globe for hours, about to end for many by the international dateline, just started for those like hawaii and west coast
Sorry_Caterpillar546@reddit
the fact that we actually have to question if this is a joke or a necessary sanity check says everything about the state of tech subs right now. honestly, a few weeks without "is ai taking my job" posts sounds like a solid plan.
MjolnirMark4@reddit
Around ten years ago, I started a new job on April 1st.
I waited until I was able to log into work on April 3rd before I updated my linked in status.
I waited that long so that I knew it could not still be the fist somewhere in the world. ;)
Olipro@reddit
Do/Did you live in a timezone in the ballpark of UTC+13?
SmokyMcBongPot@reddit
It's after 12PM in the majority of the world.
Spez_is-a-nazi@reddit
It’s already the 2nd in Sydney
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
[Angry Melbourne noises]
ItzWarty@reddit
If someone writes a library or tool that's designed to be used by LLMs, is that relevant or off-topic?
I feel in the long-run, this rule is going to be hard to enforce. Every IDE, every compiler toolchain, will probably eventually incorporate LLMs to some degree. Many libraries will probably eventually incorporate LLMs into their process, especially as local compute becomes native to devices.
Sigmatics@reddit
Then go discuss it on /r/llm or wherever. I'm personally very fine with /r/programming being about manual programming.
ItzWarty@reddit
OOC does anyone have a job nowadays that doesn't involve the LLM craze to some degree? I find that hard to believe given it's rolling over education as well.
amacgregor@reddit
I mean, this is clearly about personal bias and not well-thought-out moderation.
LindsayListens1@reddit
Yeah, once AI is baked into normal dev tooling, pretending every discussion that touches it belongs somewhere else feels more like personal annoyance than a coherent moderation rule.
pyabo@reddit
Holy cow this is dumb. Stick your head in the sand dumb. LLMs are only the most revolutionary thing to happen to software development since the compiler. And that's true no matter what your opinion about its output is.
The lack of critical thinking on display here is disturbing. You're going to BAN discussion of a tool that literally every professional programmer is now being forced to use?
Mind boggling.
Dean_Roddey@reddit
Why does everyone assume that all programmers are using LLMs, much less being forced to use them? I'm not, and I imagine a lot of people here are the same.
Maybe you just work for some evil empire cloud company that is looking to be the McDonalds of software or some such, but some of us still are creating high quality, non-boilerplate code in the sunshine, where how fast you can blast out code is not the primary concern.
pyabo@reddit
>Why does everyone assume that all programmers are using LLMs, much less being forced to use them?
Because I live in the real world, and every developer I know is telling me this.
Of course "blasting out code" is not the primary concern. These tools are doing more than that now and if you don't familiarize yourself with them, you might have trouble moving jobs in the future.
If you really are a programmer, then you know as well as I do that the way job searches work is (entirely broken) either networking or specific keyword searches. It doesn't matter if you fucking invented javascript, the recruiter ad is going to say you must have "5 years of experience w/ React" or whatever pet framework they are looking for and everything else goes straight to the bin. Very soon they are all going to say "must have experience orchestrating projects in Claude Code."
I'm sure there will still be small burger places pumping out hand-crafted, artisanal hamburgers like yourself. But it will get harder and harder to compete with McD's.
Dean_Roddey@reddit
Is there any shortage of restaurants serving FAR better food than McDonalds? The same applies to software.
Though you may live in a world where pumping data to phones (and spying on their users) is what life is about, there's a whole other world out there that's nothing like that. In fact your entire cloud world is built on a small mountain of software that is nothing like that. A lot of that software real consequences, safety, legal, liability, regulatory, etc... A lot of it is vastly more complex than humping out web sites, and there's no way to push out patches ten times a day.
pyabo@reddit
Bro, I'm a software engineer. You don't have to explain to me about how software works.
But it seems really odd to me that you want to pretend like we're not seeing a sea change that is vastly affecting the entire industry. I get it. Change is hard. But you better roll with it.
The buggy whip factories were very down on the newfangled automobile also. But the smart folks didn't pretend like they were just going to keep making buggy whips.
UnknownName404@reddit
Yeah say that with Em dashes
MatiasGonzalo-Duarte@reddit
Here's OP using them before the LLMs exploded: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/tddkhd/russian_orthodox_church_in_amsterdam_announces/i0k428u/
_TheDust_@reddit
Yes, that’s the joke
aevitas@reddit
Ah, yes indeed.
MatiasGonzalo-Duarte@reddit
OP claims to use emdashes regularly and looking at their history I have to believe them. Here's a comment they made before the release of chatgpt: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/tddkhd/russian_orthodox_church_in_amsterdam_announces/i0k428u/
RedEyed__@reddit
And still, your llm placed em dash in this post
MatiasGonzalo-Duarte@reddit
Emdashes aren't proof of LLM generation. OP claims to use them and their post history corroborates that. Here's a comment of theirs from before the release of chatgpt — https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/tddkhd/russian_orthodox_church_in_amsterdam_announces/i0k428u/
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
If you believe text in a post was LLM generated, feel free to report it, that would still be against our existing rules.
AmbitiousBossman@reddit
What a loser mentality. LLMs are here and you're becoming irrelevant. Stick your head in the sand all you want
Ok_Lavishness960@reddit
I was just about to self promote my new AI tool... SlopDog.dev.io.ai
Fluffy_Channel_9845@reddit
Don't forget .gov
edmazing@reddit
Dang I'll have to look into SlopDog.dev.io.ai.shop now for when I sell my AI tool.
Cualkiera67@reddit
SlopDog.dev.io.ai.shop As a Service
bogz_dev@reddit
it's odd how hackernews seems to be diverging from the reddit programming communities quite drastically. i can't tell which side is closer to the truth in its groupthink, but am very tempted to say that it's reddit at this point.
0pet@reddit
On what basis? Do you think LLMs would be more used in say 2 years?
bogz_dev@reddit
it's possible. i was mostly referring to the side of the narrative that groupthink lands on. on hackernews it seems like most posters agree that AGI is coming, and that dev jobs are in serious danger. how many accounts espousing those opinions are real people, i don't know.
GameRoom@reddit
My sense with HN is that opinions are split roughly 50/50 on the topic.
Worldly_Midnight_838@reddit
i have not read too deeply into all the perspectives on hackernews but I have a feeling that many of the people on there say AGI is coming because they want it to exist, and they are interpreting the evidence to fit that conclusion
0pet@reddit
show me one comment where the person says AGI is coming
fragglerock@reddit
This guy seems to think it is here already!
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47300171
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
That's not how people defined AGI. Those might have considered benchmarks, but "it's general intelligence" wasn't even the point of Turing's thought experiment abs it isn't the right conclusion.
red75prime@reddit
Turing tried to come up with something testable, which is close to a question "Can machines think?" 76 years later people casually state "LLMs can't think" without bothering to define what it means to think.
0pet@reddit
what is your definition of AGI?
ItzWarty@reddit
The same goes on this sub... many users want LLMs to as evidenced by the content being outright banned here, and are interpreting the evidence to fit that conclusion.
cummer_420@reddit
The average user over there in my experience also thinks they are a lot smarter and more knowledgeable than they actually are.
zucchini_up_ur_ass@reddit
IMO it's not really odd at all. Reddit for at least the past 10 years has a way more mainstream audience (and also before that) and you can feel that everywhere, especially in technical subs if you have the least bit of experience. HN still has a (though it's rapidly changing, sadly) very technical audience.
bogz_dev@reddit
i very emphatically disagree with you there. hackernews might have had a much more technical audience up to about 2 years ago. that is no longer the case.
zucchini_up_ur_ass@reddit
I don't think we disagree, I already mentioned that in my comment. But the level of discourse there is still way above the big subreddits here though.
fragglerock@reddit
The very good Comments owl is going to have a filter to remove AI from hackernews... leaving a blank page I would expect.
https://bsky.app/profile/soitis.dev/post/3mi6hgufra22b
https://soitis.dev/comments-owl-for-hacker-news
It really is full of high-on-own-supply valley idiots... scary really.
Dean_Roddey@reddit
What is the most up-voted post in this section's history?
Given that I'm sure all of the AI Bros are down-voting it heavily, if not using their LLM based down-vote bots on it, ending up with this many up-votes has to be a pretty solid statement.
GameRoom@reddit
Wdym, if you are enthusiastically pro AI you decidedly would not be happy about any AI discussions in this subreddit.
Known-Volume1509@reddit
I don't quite get this. If it was about some LLM startups and junk services, then ok. But there is really good theory, maths, algorithms about LLMs. Does this ban include those as well? Strange.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Yep. Articles about the technical details of LLMs don't get posted here, as far as I've seen not a damn one.
We're not banning discussions and posts about machine learning, mind. Specifically LLMs.
If we made a rule that said "no posts about LLMs unless it's very very good", there'd be no change. Every vibe coder and their dog thinks they're the bees knees, the absolute cat's pajamas.
But, it's a temporary ban. If we look back in two weeks or four weeks and it turns out we deleted some really decent stuff, or there was stuff not posted because of the rule that would have been kosher, hey, we'll figure it out then.
amacgregor@reddit
I understand the intent, but I think this is short-sighted and may come across as biased. Like it or not, LLMs are impacting software development and our industry. You already banned slop and blog spams. I don't think this improves the content on this sub. Now, if what you want is a bubble where we pretend LLMs don't exist, then you might be on the right track.
GameRoom@reddit
They are undoubtedly important to the future of the industry, but at the same time, I have not experienced a single consecutive 24 hour period in the past 3 years where I have not been exposed against my will to somebody's hot take on generative AI. I would like some reprieve.
Dean_Roddey@reddit
How does this pretend that LLMs don't exist? We don't discuss CPU design theory here, yet CPUs are vastly more important to us than LLMs are, and no one believes that because we don't discuss CPU design here that CPUs don't exist. That's why Reddit has sections.
And is this the most up-voted thread in this section ever? If not it must be pretty close, even with all of the AI Bros down-voting it I'm sure.
johnnybgooderer@reddit
LLMs are a part of software engineering now. And eventually everyone is going to be using them for programming in some capacity.
Don’t bury your head in the sand. It will only make it harder for you to find a job.
ARealArticulateFella@reddit
It's very helpful but of course you can't use it completely blindly. People who treat it like the devil and want to remove discussion of it are larpers.
markand67@reddit
I prefer to do something else that forcing me to use an AI. It's not because people are using it that we're all forced to do so.
zucchini_up_ur_ass@reddit
Who the hell is forcing you?
markand67@reddit
Customer, contractors, colleagues, and people saying "eventually everyone is going to be using them for programming in some capacity."
johnnybgooderer@reddit
If people are able to use ai to get faster or better results, then you end up being forced to. Just like you’re forced to write high level code in the vast majority of industries. People in tech get squeezed out for being dinosaurs all the time.
Trygle@reddit
Every team that is "outwriting" me while using an LLM is not properly reviewing their code and making a mess of a carefully designed system they made 0 attempt to understand.
Yes the code "functions" with base level testing - but I am waiting to see how it survives public testing and increased pressure to react to bugs. Eventually the problem and complexity outpaces the context window and you have to try and mentally understand the mess it creates. :/
FarplaneDragon@reddit
The good news is that in about a handful of years or so you'll make good money coming in as a 3rd party contractor to those companies to fix the mess these people are making sense no of them will have a clue how to do so.
johnnybgooderer@reddit
I am finding that in both faster and better with ai. I review everything so I’m not getting the crazy speed up’s that other people get. But reviewing is still faster than writing. Implementation is very fast. I have better, more comprehensive tests than ever, and I catch more bugs before deploying.
Unless ai gets significantly better, it’s not replacing teams of engineers. But it does help one engineer do a better job. And it’s a great first step for debugging. I copy in errors and try racing it with my own investigation. Often it wins.
zucchini_up_ur_ass@reddit
Yep. At my job nothing in our workflow changed, we still write issues like normal, we still code review like normal, all that has changed is that our project manager can now solve boring issues like "change this button color" without us having to do it. It's amazing.
The lack of serious replies you got says it all.
Civil-Appeal5219@reddit
lol
Reonu_@reddit
Based. Thank you.
IdiocracyToday@reddit
Why would I switch to a different profession when I can do the same profession but more efficiently
clrbrk@reddit
That em dash tells me this post was written by AI hmmmmm
SwedishFindecanor@reddit
People who don't use emdashes are just not taking advantage of their keyboard's potential for entering text.
Install/enable the Compose key. Then press Compose
---(in sequence) to get emdash:—.Press Compose
--.to get endash:–.Other signs of typographic illiteracy are using the letter
xinstead of the multiplication symbol, or the letteruinstead of the Greek letter µ.ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
No, I just like using em dashes instead of semicolons. And em dashes with spaces around them — like this — just look better than em dashes without spaces—like this.
The Chicago Manual of Style can go suck it, spaceless em dashes look like ass. It looks like a long hyphen joining words, not a dash joining statements.
The only downside to using em dashes as much as I like to is that I can't do it on Android. So you can typically tell if I'm posting from my phone because I'll use a double hyphen, like an idiot.
Sigmatics@reddit
How do you type them on PC? They're not part of the regular keyboard?
storyboard_sc219_p4@reddit
Windows recently added a key shortcut as well.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Alt-codes, too.
IdiocracyToday@reddit
Embarrassing to be a moderator of a programming subreddit and ban the most widely used programming tools. Literally luddites banning the discussion of compilers because you think code should only be written directly in machine language.
floodyberry@reddit
i must have missed compilers being hideously expensive probabilistic intellectual theft devices that are flooding the internet with low effort slop while being aggressively pushed by greedy assholes to prop up their compiler bubble companies
IdiocracyToday@reddit
You must have missed working as a software developer too.
floodyberry@reddit
if doing your job was so hard before you had a slop bot to think for you, maybe you should try a different profession
tianepteen@reddit
yeah. i don't frequent this sub (or even use LLMs in my workflow) but this ban is quite a take.
LevelIndependent672@reddit
makes sense tbh. the chi 2024 llm-mod study got 92.3% true-negative but weak true-positive detection so a hybrid flow still seems way safer. curious if this keeps the sub from getting drowned out?
AlaskanDruid@reddit
Hopefully when real AI is invented, the news can be posted here.
AggravatingHyena3479@reddit
A lot of AI-driven adult websites end up feeling underwhelming because they rely on repetitive outputs, slow or buggy interfaces, and very little real personalization, which makes the experience feel generic and forgettable after a short time—but xxxgooner.com stands apart by delivering a far more polished and responsive platform, with smarter AI interactions and features that actually adapt to what users want, making it noticeably more engaging and enjoyable compared to the rest.
sparant76@reddit
/r/contextprogramming needs to start up.
ShelZuuz@reddit
Darn, just when I wanted to share my O(1) time gradient descend algorithm.
Omenow@reddit
Thank you
zucchini_up_ur_ass@reddit
Can't discuss the biggest thing changing our work in living memory on its biggest sub, what a reddit thing to do.
BubuX@reddit
people think that LLMs will go away of they close their eyes long enough
Sigmatics@reddit
I love this rule. LLMs are a tool, like IDEs, and IDEs get a limited share of discussion here. Time to put LLMs in their place.
zucchini_up_ur_ass@reddit
Discussing IDEs is not banned.
Sigmatics@reddit
It's not, but there also aren't 30 posts about IDEs every day, so it's not a problem.
zucchini_up_ur_ass@reddit
Correct, because IDEs aren't exciting new technology that people are enthusiastic about.
What is your point?
Sigmatics@reddit
As you can tell by the reception of this post, not everyone is equally enthusiastic about this "exciting new technology".
zucchini_up_ur_ass@reddit
Okay, and?
Theemuts@reddit
This is literally what moderation is intended for. Feel free to create a programming_uncensored if you can't accept that.
Kevinw778@reddit
Eh. As a software developer of just over a decade, we've always leveraged whatever tools we have at our disposal. As soon as a tool comes along that everyone fearmongers as the end of software development, we cancel its discussion entirely?
Like it or not, AI is a part of programming now. The fact that we're trying to completely eliminate it instead of coming up with better moderation is kind of sad.
That being said, the OP mentions, "not all AI content," so we'll see just how judicious they are with that qualification.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
I want to be very, very clear on two things.
It's all LLM related content. AI is an extraordinarily broad term, especially after All You Need is Attention. What we're banning is LLM related content, but the rest of what would be considered AI is fine.
I'm not the only mod on this sub. There's a whole bunch of us.
disperso@reddit
It would help if you would clarify what is LLM related content a bit more specifically. I don't expect this sub to be about news and releases of new models, their benchmarks, etc. (even though some of those benchmarks are specifically for coding, but whatever, it's still a general purpose product, so not strictly r/programming, so I agree).
And I'm guessing that if it's about prompting, fine tuning, adding context or MCP and the like... then well, it's fairly related to tools that heavily involve using LLMs for programming.
So... are those allowed or not? It's very heavily reliant on LLMs, but I would assume that not.
But, at the same time... While not everyone uses Claude Code/Codex/OpenCode/etc, which is the sub that is OK for discussing about programming, even if involves those tools? Because for some people, it's a tool used all the time, and some are still interested in using it, even if moderately, to see how much is hype and how much is not.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Content related to LLMs. If the content is related to LLMs, then it's banned.
Yeah, that's content related to LLMs. So no, it's banned.
There's plenty of other subs. Our concern is this one, and keeping it healthy and attempting to achieve the goal of it being a place of technical learning. The folks who still want to discuss LLMs can do so elsewhere, nobody is chained to r/Programming specifically.
disperso@reddit
OK, thank you. Seems fair. I'm also a bit tired of seeing so much about LLMs and LLM coding and not having space for other stuff. I think that doing this temporarily is probably fine. I just hope this period can help the community "detox" from the noise and the hype, but can end up with a proper balance of content, because I don't think that making this permanent is the ideal choice either.
cainhurstcat@reddit
God, please please please let it be a real rule instead of a stupid April Fools... I am so fucking fed up with all this AI bullshit!
Sigmatics@reddit
It's April 2nd and it's still here. I suppose it was to judge reception and have an easy way out. I hope it stays.
cainhurstcat@reddit
I'm very pleased that they edited their post, clarifying that it is not a joke
InternetSchoepfer@reddit
IDK what's funnier. The Fact It's April 1 or that the post itself is LLM written.
Smobey@reddit
People are so reliant on LLMs these days they think anything longer than three sentences has to be written by an LLM since who could possibly write that much as a human, huh.
InternetSchoepfer@reddit
I have never seen anyone use actual ehm dashes and not just "-" ...
Also glad i am not any of those "people" you refer to.
Rhumbone@reddit
Well, that's understandable that if you haven't read many books, or if you have never partaken in long form communication online! Em dashes are less common in instant communication services and low-effort forums like reddit.
I suppose I would generally recommend reading some books, though! Even programmers can use language skills.
crxsso_dssreer@reddit
good.
CodeCompost@reddit
Please make this permanent.
wmichben@reddit
Hmm. I am guessing this one is not an April Fools joke since the rules were actually updated to reflect this rule change trial. I don't know. Why does anyone bother to announce anything on this date?
thecarpathia@reddit
Well it's also clearly written by or pretending to be written by AI, the em dash is an easy tell.
wmichben@reddit
Humans have been writing with em dashes well before AI. We are the reason AI uses them. The thing to look out for is an excessive use of em dashes, especially in places where there shouldn't even be a pause.
My own writing has gotten worse thanks to all the assumptions people make about AI tells.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
It's not, I just use em dashes. They're a good — if not great — part of the grammatical lexicon.
thecarpathia@reddit
Well, the irony then 😆
ReDucTor@reddit
We have been discussing it for a while, its more just a coincidence that it landed on April Fools for some people.
BobQuixote@reddit
Without the legit announcements, the pranks might not work as well.
case-o-nuts@reddit
This is great. I just I really hope it's permanent.
AI-Commander@reddit
At least you said LLM and not “AI”.
Kudos for that!
ePaint@reddit
Cope
NXGZ@reddit
Rope
Civil-Appeal5219@reddit
I'm REALLY hoping this isn't April Fool. It would instantly make this community 100% better.
ficiek@reddit
Unfortunately given that there is almost no quality-centered moderation happening in this subreddit it must be false.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
We actively remove low quality posts, especially if they're removed.
ficiek@reddit
I'm mostly referring to the largely ignored "Just because it has a computer in it doesn't make it programming. If there is no code in your link, it probably doesn't belong here" guideline.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I wouldn't really call that a strict rule. The guideline is mostly accurate, but consider the text of the "2027" state of the sub, talking about what is acceptable content at the top of the rules list.
We'll have a look at the old.reddit sidebar in the future and get it more in-line with what current moderation and aims of the sub are.
ficiek@reddit
Well maybe, fair enough. I don't know it could just be down to a low traffic sub but there are often submissions downvoted to hell with 0 upvotes that are a couple days old here, I'd just remove them for example. And my perception is that it's often blogspam with no code. They are just kinda sitting there in hot making the sub harder to read.
absentmindedjwc@reddit
Lol. "Company does a thing as an april fools fucking everyone has been asking for anyway"
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
We're not a company. The active moderators aren't Reddit employees. We're just a bunch of folk from around the world.
absentmindedjwc@reddit
Your head mod is the Reddit CEO… 👀
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Spez has never actively moderated the sub, and certainly doesn't today. Ket is our head mod in practice and the rest of us are just a bunch of randos.
1-760-706-7425@reddit
Then why not punt him? It aligns with Reddit’s current push to get rid of inactive mods.
NXGZ@reddit
You can't remove the top mod, unless there's totally inactive and then you can request an admin to remove them.
NuclearVII@reddit
It is not an April fools joke. Just happened to line up this way, and it seems none of us can look at a calendar worth a damn.
Iamsodarncool@reddit
Thank you for implementing this policy. I used to read r/programming every day and I loved the high quality articles that were posted here. In the last year or so the good articles have been buried under endless tired LLM discourse and I've been sad to see it. Here's hoping this is a return to form for this place.
BlueGoliath@reddit
incongruity@reddit
April Cruels!
OmgSlayKween@reddit
It's a genius move. Plausible deniability if the community hates it. Actually implement it if it's lauded.
unbackstorie@reddit
Honestly lol. Before I realized the date, I thought "oh thank god" 😭
kamikazer@reddit
how about forever?
feverzsj@reddit
Make it permanent, please!
fearthelettuce@reddit
Incredible! Llm has polluted so much of the content, blogs, talks, etc.
yubario@reddit
The one field where AI does actually make a significant difference, and you're banning discussion of it? Lol
ApolloFortyNine@reddit
My thought as well lol, banning it is just sticking your head in the sand as a community.
ApolloFortyNine@reddit
Crazy to ban discussion of the single biggest change to programming in 40 years.
Judging from the comments it seems this sub just doesn't fit my interests any more. Best of luck.
Sarcova@reddit
We're at a point where it's very clear that LLMs and systems built on top of them are durably changing our field. This sub is very anti-AI which can be understood given the long list of risks it brings but I don't think doing the ostrich during such a period makes sense.
tuxedo25@reddit
oh no, if only there were other subreddits for the topic
Sarcova@reddit
If only the programming subreddit allowed talking about one of the major programming topic of the decade
floodyberry@reddit
it did, and apparently enough people got sick of reading about the unsustainable slop bot 2000
maqcky@reddit
You've been downvoted to hell but I think you are right. This is the new reality. LLMs are here to stay and traditional programming is gone for good. I hate it, but we have to adapt or change to another job. Traditional programming is gone for good. That THE programming subreddit tries to hide it is simply ridiculous.
Sarcova@reddit
I even tryed to word it in a balanced way but the clowns on this sub are too far gone, they are burrying their head in the sand and refusing to face reality
Civil-Appeal5219@reddit
lol
Paratwa@reddit
Guys guys
This is great news. With LLMs banned we can finally pivot to discussing MLM programming. I built a mass emailing pipeline in Python that my upstream recruiter says is worth six figures. Who wants in on the ground floor?
meong-oren@reddit
hell yeah 100%. I almost left this sub, too many boring posts recently
the_ai_wizard@reddit
New programming challenge: detect LLM Content
thewormbird@reddit
Really smart to post it today when everyone is extra vigilant are reading things with a critical mindset.
Few_Theme_5486@reddit
Honestly a fair call. The signal-to-noise ratio on LLM posts has gotten pretty rough — a lot of it is surface-level hype rather than technical depth. Curious to see how the quality shifts over the trial period. The distinction between "content about LLMs" vs. "technical ML/AI engineering content" is exactly the right line to draw.
ColdPhilosophy@reddit
Glad to know this sub is going the StackOverflow route. Great thinking!
haby001@reddit
What makes a post LLM-related? Anything that mentions LLMs or AI? can we no longer make fun of AI then?
adh1003@reddit
And with that one stroke, this subreddit becomes a welcome haven.
UnmaintainedDonkey@reddit
Thanks you mods! This has been an big issue here for months (years?).
Please also consider banning medium.com posts, as they are 1) used by "devs" who post there for "street cred", either by copying someone elses post or just using AI to generate some slop that is usually wrong and 2) Is paywalled, meaning it should be banned anyway, even if AI was allowed.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
We do remove paywalled articles when we see them, that's all still against the rules. Reports help immensely, though.
Coloneljesus@reddit
Thanks. I've been noticing that there's like basically one post per day complaining about AI in one way or another.
While I'm very sympathetic with the general opinion, I'm also very uninterested in that kind of post.
FeepingCreature@reddit
Tbh I think you should just ban bad articles.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
We do, we have rules against low quality submissions already.
FeepingCreature@reddit
Huh, so it's a flood of mediocre articles? Or is it really too many good LLM posts?
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Nah, they're pretty universally garbage. But that's the point of a trial ban, if we remove stuff that would have actually been good to have we can review how things went after we wrap up the ban.
FeepingCreature@reddit
I guess it is easier to review for LLM content than to review for garbageness.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Frankly coming up with a rule targeting "garbageness" isn't possible. Not without making it feel arbitrary and having enforcement come down to the vibes of particular mods.
LALLANAAAAAA@reddit
Can't believe I'm saying this but...
Bravo, thank you mods.
Finchyy@reddit
Thank Kopimi
Darrelc@reddit
Is this an april fools pisstake or what?
Brilliant rule if not
BlueGoliath@reddit
Considering people have been asking for this long before the new mods, probably is.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
It's not an April Fools joke. It's just how the timing worked out.
madsdawud@reddit
Not just a fun joke. Not just a warning. A ban.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
The content is banned. A ban on content doesn't mean we'll necessarily ban people immediately.
Unfair-Sleep-3022@reddit
Can you also ban low effort AI generated slop?
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
That's already banned; we already ban anything generated by LLMs.
It can be very difficult to consistently identify if a given chunk of text is or is not, though.
Iggyhopper@reddit
That's fine.
If we can catch the obvious emoji filled, bold highlighted, em dashed garbage that's a good start.
Unfair-Sleep-3022@reddit
OOC does it include links to slop articles? Honestly most of what I see here is AI generated so I'm surprised
ketralnis@reddit
"most" is a pretty broad claim. What's on the front page of r/programming right now that is AI generated?
NuclearVII@reddit
Report the posts and comments that you catch, we tend to be pretty good at keeping the queue clean.
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Yes, but again, identifying an article as LLM generated consistently is difficult. Some people will look at this post and say it is, for example, because I use em dashes with spaces around them.
Feel free to report stuff, but be aware we might not agree with you when we see stuff in the queue.
chmod-77@reddit
Sub muted.
nobody0163@reddit
Don't let the door hit you on your way out
Other_Fly_4408@reddit
You can still ask Claude to write you a typical /r/programming post if you're missing AI slop.
paxinfernum@reddit
This sub loves ranting against AI, but it's the non-AI content that sucks. I feel like I'm in a programmer retirement home. There's not excitement about programming anymore.
I've simply stopped checking the sub regularly.
phillipcarter2@reddit
NGMI behavior
eightysixmonkeys@reddit
This would actually be an incredible change
Marcuss2@reddit
Hey, this is fine, but can you link to subreddits which actually discuss it like /r/LocalLLaMA?
robot_otter@reddit
I support this 👏👏
BlueGoliath@reddit
LLMs down, webdev next please for the love of god.
Techman-@reddit
Thank you so much for this.
The_loudsoda@reddit
Please enforce this.
BortGreen@reddit
Finally, it's annoying to see random LLM blogposts with 0 karma cluttering the sub
wRAR_@reddit
They aren't banning blogspam though, only articles about LLMs.
imbev@reddit
Blogspam is already banned
pm_plz_im_lonely@reddit
The posts with the most comments in this sub in the last few months have been circlejerking LLM code. It's now a routine I can type /r/programming to get my latest anti-AI dose.
Enai_Siaion@reddit
You're absolutely right! This is not just a forum for bots—human interaction is very important in the era of AI!
skat_in_the_hat@reddit
Sounds like a good idea. At work we are seeing a huge influx in low quality poorly verified code. The enshitification has begunnnnnn!
EarlMarshal@reddit
That's great. Have you thought about a mega thread once every while where all the LLMs and clawd bits can post their posts. Maybe that limits the amount of work a mod has to do to enforce the rule by giving an outlet?
wRAR_@reddit
They don't forbid LLMs from posting their slop.
Honest_Record_3543@reddit
I had just a great news about LLMs.... You will all miss it then, so be it
craigrileyuk@reddit
Fantastic news!
AustinPowers@reddit
If this is an April Fool's joke, it's a pretty shitty one, likely to cause arguments and resentment on all sides.
If this isn't an April Fool's joke, it was pretty dumb to announce it today.
mr-figs@reddit
No pleasing you, ey?
glehkol@reddit
Deeply unserious people here
Page_197_Slaps@reddit
It begins.
le_bravery@reddit
Instead of Large Level marketing posts, we will only be allowing Multi Level Marketing posts (MLMs).
currentscurrents@reddit
Good. All AI discussion feels like a waste of effort anyway.
“yes it will”, “no it won’t” - nobody really knows, it's just a bunch of extremely opinionated people rehashing the same tired arguments across 800 comments per thread.
There’s no point in talking about it anymore, just wait to see how it all turns out.
fragglerock@reddit
If this is a fucking April fools we riot!
grady_vuckovic@reddit
Clever. You make this announcement on April 1st, that way if it's popular you can say it wasn't a joke, if everyone laughs and says 'No seriously though don't do that' you can say it was a joke.
Very clever...
Ok for the record, yes I'm fully supportive of this temporary ban, do it.
Hillgrove@reddit
please don't be an aprils fool !!!!
collin2477@reddit
I hope this was published at 3/31
losteden@reddit
Wow a mod decision I can actually get behind. Keep up the good work.
cbarrick@reddit
I am curious about how you plan to implement this policy.
Humans aren't perfect classifiers of AI generated content. Is there any specific tooling that the mod team will be using to implement this policy?
ChemicalRascal@reddit (OP)
Not generated. Related. Anything related to LLMs gets removed.
cbarrick@reddit
OH!
That's much more controversial, I think.
Agreed that the discourse is oversaturated on the topic of LLMs, but that topic also seems highly relevant to this sub, regardless of people's feelings about the social value of the technology.
Happy to have less LLM-related content in my feed, but a little less happy to see the programming sub ban a software-related topic.
Let's see how the trial goes.
AppropriateSpell5405@reddit
Did ChatGPT write this message?
wyhay6789@reddit
"Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution." I really hope it holds also here
BreakThings@reddit
Please don’t be a joke please don’t be a joke please don’t be a joke
Dreamtrain@reddit
And nothing of value was lost
-colin-@reddit
I get why this decision was made, but wether we like it or not, LLM-assisted software engineering is here to stay and I don't see us ever going back to the "good old days". Removing posts on this topic I feel brings more harm than good, as everyone is navigating this space for the first time and we need collaboration while we figure out how best to use these tools. It's expected for AI-related topics to dominate because it's a new space, but this should settle down in a few years as we become more accustomed to the tooling.
markand67@reddit
As the rule states. If you don't want to write code, we don't want to read code. What's the point of showcasing/asking if it's not yours?
Jmc_da_boss@reddit
Awww, April fools :(
standing_artisan@reddit
Yes finally no more LLM related content. Thank you !
freecodeio@reddit
oh no but what about our hot takes in the comments that get 800 upvotes?